My father joined Ahmadiyya from Sunni Islam. We live in Tanzania thousands of miles from Qaidan. This answers many questions of Mr. Declan. And yes I am young not drifting away from my faith. Listening to this podcast has just increased my passion for tabligh. I feel that I need to do more to preach the message of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (a.s), and In'shaa'Allah I will do it till my death
In Holy Quran 2:261,And remember when Abraham said, ‘My Lord, show me how Thou givest life to the dead.’ He said, ‘Hast thou not believe?’ He said, ‘Yes, but I ask this so that my heart may be at rest.’ He answered, ‘Take four birds and make them attached to thyself. Then put each of them on a hill; then call them; they will come to thee in haste. And know that Allah is Mighty and Wise.’ Besides the afterlife, there is reference to 4 nations that shall rise and fall in ways know to Allah: 1. Nabi Musa was a Great law- bearing Prophet sent for the tribes of Israel with commandments and verities of wisdom that was suited for the Children of Israel at that stage of spiritual and physical requirements. 2. Prophet Isa (Jesus’ peace be upon Him) was the Messiah sent by God to guide the various Tribes of Israel according to the true teachings of the Torah and with the Gospel. He came about 1300 years after Prophet Musa. 3. The Holy Prophet Muhammed is the Last Great law -bearing prophet sent for the whole of mankind with blessings of spiritual guidance and signaling physical/ economic/ secular/technological blessings. 4. The Promised Messiah Nabi Ahmad was sent by God to guide people to the true teachings of the Holy Quran. In the time of the Promised Messiah there are various spiritual blessings and signaling physical/secular/economic/technological blessings. He arrived about 1300 years after the Holy Prophet.
My great grandfather travelled across the Indian subcontinent to accept the message of Ahmadiyya Islam at the hand of The Promised Messiah (AS) in early 1900’s. I am a fourth generation Ahmadi Muslim born in West Yorkshire, England. The faith of those that have been brought through the Ahmadiyya system, including its auxiliaries, remains as firm as it was decades ago. Why? Because it’s based upon teachings of love, peace and creating upstanding members of society led by a true divinely guided caliphate.
As an Ahmadi Muslim and a police officer in Canada, I frequently interact with youths and adults from a wide range of backgrounds, ethnicities, and religious beliefs. My job has given me the opportunity to visit various places of worship and attend religious events across different communities, including Sikhs, Hindus, Christians, Jews, Sunnis, and Shias, as well as those who are non-religious. Throughout my experiences, I have been profoundly impressed by the level of youth engagement within the Ahmadiyya community. I've never witnessed such active participation among young people in any other community. Even my co-workers, who have visited our Jalsa Salana and Ahmadi mosques, were astonished by the number of young individuals actively involved in mosque activities, especially when compared to the attendance they observe in their own churches. Alhamdulillah
As far as if you compare the churches it might be the case. But average youth involvement in Sunni mosques far exceeds what you see with ahmadiyya community.
Hi Police-Man, maybe you can help me out: imagine a man hunts a married woman and writes about her nakedness and uglyness IN PUBLIC in newspaper - or, imagine he would hunt your mother or married sister - be very honest - HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ??? mirza this cursed individual was hunting Muhammadi-Begum UNTIL HIS MISERABLE DEATH !! to your proudness: once you start giving the ahmadi youth the real Kuffr believe of mirza the promissed dajal who was all-in-one, you will witness a lot of confusion so keep hide the real believe of them if you want to stay proud may Allah guide you brother !
As a young Ahmadi Muslim who was not only interested in learning my faith but totally passionate about it, I am very proud of my faith in Islam Ahmadiyya. Many people say that opposition is what makes things difficult or weak but I totally oppose this view and say that instead it makes one even tougher and greater. Our opponents have tried everything to stop my community and yet we’ve since the resilience and the faith within Ahmadi Muslims growing. Opposition makes us even prouder in our journey because we are living the way and facing challenges the way every community of God faced.
Young Ahmadis drifting away? You should bring him to Jalsa 1 week before it starts. Let him see how 16-18 year old boys live in Hadeeqatul Mahdi giving up their holidays, to set up an event for 40,000 people.
I am proud Ahmadi American Muslim, converted to Ahmadiyyat when I was 21-22 years old, after researching all other sects of Islam and study most of the contemporary issues. Alhamdulillah I am thank full to God Almighty who showed me the light of Ahmadiyya Islam. The True Islam.
brother, mirza was an atheist - if you believe in Allah sw. follow Muhamamd as., if you believe in Yalash and Tichi-Tichi follow mirza the promissed dajal
@@claudio_isen mirza Ghulaam Ahmad Qadiani (AS) was true servant of God Almighty and true obedience of Holy Prophet of God ( pbuh) Allah Ta ala , send him to revive/reform the religion of Islam, as an Imam Mahdi/ promised Messiah. So he is ummati Nabi ( sub servant prophet of Muhammad pbuh.
@@syedtrueahmadi yes, nice idea, where did you get it from ? brother, Muhammad as. is the last prophet and Isa ibn Mariam will come in the end times, not Sharuh-Khan. Study Islam, otherwise you will only wake up when you die, you have been completely deceived. look, here's a nice lie too, your community lies every day just to make you feel like you have a lot of members! In your welcome PDF WelcomeBook2ndEd it says for the year 2001: Last year alone, more than 81 million men, women and children joined Ahmadiyyat around the world. Are there close to 100,000,000 Ahmadis? Then why do you see mostly Punjabi faces in the jalsas? I guess all dogs, cats and birds were also counted ? leave this man-made religion - its a fake brother
I am 21, and a proud Ahmadi Muslim. I have researched and questioned our beliefs thoroughly, understanding the differences between Ahmadi Muslim and non-Ahmadi Muslims. I have read and listened to the arguments of the opponents of Jamaat Islam Ahmadiyya patiently, and by the grace of Allah The Almighty, I remain convinced about the truthfulness of Jamaat Islam Ahmadiyya and its love for The Holy Prophet (saw). I respectfully disagree with Mr. Declan Henry on the assertion that the youth of the Jamaat are wavering in their faith, as I have observed quite the opposite first hand. Alhamdulillah.
Did you know Mirza confessed to having a mental illness? and did you know Allah tells us in the Qur'an, prophets can never be mentally ill. So please do more research
@@nidaul-islam4581I have heard of these allegations before, and you are wrong. Hazrat Masih Maud (as) did not admit to having mental illness as you assert. Second, you're just like the Jews of Medina and modern day Christians and Atheists who attack The Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) of God forbid having some sort of mental illness. Do more research yourself instead of blindly believing everything you read out of context writings. Wassalam.
@@gammaray3e3 Go and read 'seerat ul mahdi' and make sure you read the section about his mental illness. I have been reading his books for the past 18 months, and with the grace of Allah, my whole family and I, rejected Mirza kazzab
In Holy Quran 2:261,And remember when Abraham said, ‘My Lord, show me how Thou givest life to the dead.’ He said, ‘Hast thou not believe?’ He said, ‘Yes, but I ask this so that my heart may be at rest.’ He answered, ‘Take four birds and make them attached to thyself. Then put each of them on a hill; then call them; they will come to thee in haste. And know that Allah is Mighty and Wise.’ Besides the afterlife, there is reference to 4 nations that shall rise and fall in ways know to Allah: 1. Nabi Musa was a Great law- bearing Prophet sent for the tribes of Israel with commandments and verities of wisdom that was suited for the Children of Israel at that stage of spiritual and physical requirements. 2. Prophet Isa (Jesus’ peace be upon Him) was the Messiah sent by God to guide the various Tribes of Israel according to the true teachings of the Torah and with the Gospel. He came about 1300 years after Prophet Musa. 3. The Holy Prophet Muhammed is the Last Greatest law -bearing prophet sent for the whole of mankind with blessings of spiritual guidance and signaling physical/ economic/ secular/technological blessings. 4. The Promised Messiah Nabi Ahmad was sent by God to guide people to the true teachings of the Holy Quran. In the time of the Promised Messiah there are various spiritual blessings and signaling physical/secular/economic/technological blessings. He arrived about 1300 years after the Holy Prophet.
Just to add** I have listened to and watched the arguments (if you can even call them that) put forth by the Likes of Adnan Rashid and Imtiaz. Before them there was a guy named "Farid Responds" before him there was the "ahmadiyyat 'fact' checkblog" fella. I have watched videos from these people and I have read articles from Mr. Bashir Shah's website and I remain unconvinced in their poor collective attempts to prove Islam Ahmadiyya as false. They usually end up resorting to personal attacks and harassing individuals using burner accounts because of their poor theological grounding.
As an 18-year-old Ahmadi, I am very firm in my faith. I have done my research on the truthfulness of Islam Ahmadiyya. And seeing the state of the world today, It is only Islam that can save it. And true Islam is Ahmadiyya Islam since its basis is on the holy Quran and the word of the holy prophet.
The Promised Messiah, Imam Mahdi is The Imam Of The Age foretold of his coming by The Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) though it is not categorically mentioned in The Quraan, likewise, where does it mentioned in The Quraan that the current ulema, muslim scholars are The Promised Imam Of The Age as foretold by The Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw).
@@sullyqureshi676 Allah knows well whether it is mentioned or not, the misguided will always have something to go against His chosen IMAM(leader) as such, it makes no different.
Great podcast. Jazakumallah! I am father of 4 children. All raised in western culture, strongly attached with Jama'at and Khalifat. Devoting their time for the propagation of Islam and Ahmadiyyat without any issue. Alhamdolillah, my grand children are following the same foot steps. May Allah protect them and keep them all on the right path.
What an amazing podcast, we need definitely more of these, it would be even more interesting to invite complete opposition parties. Well done to the team 🌹❤️
50:17 Here, Declan is pointing towards the fact that the youth of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat will/are slowly move away from religion according to critics. Let Declan Henry know, we the youth of the community, we will stick to Ahmadiyya Islam till our last breath. Those among us youth that are the basis upon which the "critics" put their allegations, are ignorant, they do not read or gain knowledge. I, am a youth of the community, and I know many other youth, who will stand by the truth we have found, until the Day of Judgment. Let Declan Henry, and the "critics" know, they have no knowledge about the youth of the community, or who God is causing to be born among the youth of the community, and what sacrifices the youth of the communtiy will do. Its a reality that the Christian youth, and the Jewish youth, and the Hindu youth, all will turn away from their religions, but the Ahmadiyya youth (the Muslim youth) will forever remain.
My great grand parent and his children joined ahmadiyyat with few days of exchanges talk with an ahmadi missionary at that time , they finally had answer to their question and they were the only family members that accepted ahmadiyyat. Today we are the 3rd generation of born ahmadi, all family members are all ahmadi by the grace of Allah and many members of the family are abroad in different ahmadi jamaat across the world. This is the blessing of a true jamaat and the ultimate truth of the promised messiah alsm.
Assalam u Alaikum (peace be upon you), MashAllah Asif Mahmood Basit done very well here in answering in a polite, respectful and accurate manner. It was a bit disappointing that Declan Henry kept on stating his opinion or "criticism from others"(which when asked there is no solid evidence to back up this) as facts. Some examples are below: Hazoor (The leader) does not do speeches in English - False there is countless speeches by Hazoor (the leader) in English. when he is giving a speech to an audience whose first language is mostly Urdu it makes sense to give the speech in Urdu. When the audience as a majority understands English, he speaks in English. Also, all speeches are translated and are often even translated live so it can "reach the corners of the earth". Ahmadiyya community youth are drifting away and they are really big challenges that Ahmadiyya Jammat are facing and so will see a decline in 20 years - No solid evidence provided (and no evidence can ever be provided as only God knows the level of righteousness of an individual and the future) and also wording it in a way that the ongoing challenges in the world are only faced by the Ahmadiyya community and not the rest of the religions such as Christianity. This is false all people and religions have and will always face challenges. Again, Asif Mahmood Basit addressed this point respectfully and summarised this in his final words. Lastly, a criticism that that the Ahmadiyya community is not sufficiently passing on their message to others e.g. Christians - this is again an opinion and how can anyone determine the rate a religion’s message’s should be passed on (This is up to God’s Will and his plan. God is the best planner) . Ahmadiyya community and their hazoor try to pass on their message to everyone they are able to. We are all blessed by God to have free will to accept or reject this. The community has 12-15 million members which is impressive based on how recently it has been founded and has ever since grown rapidly. We must remember that humanity cannot frustrate God's plan if he wants Ahmadiyya to spread at a certain rate it will do that. Not faster or slower.
I'm here in Africa and as an Ahmadi Muslim. If you say I joined the community because of promises made to us is so absurd and a disrespect to our intelligence as Africans
as a 20 year old young ahmadi, i see from my personal experience that listening to these podcast has motivated most of us to actually study our faith and made us closer to the truth and also motivated us to preach to others what we discovered in our study of our faith. maybe 1/100 have gotten astray but 99 have certian became more passionate and motivated to serve
Amazing podcast. May Allah bless Asif Sahib. Despite the fact that he has regular contact with Khalifatul Masih (aba), he still remains extremely humble and answers these types of questions regularly on the ground.
Full respect for both, Mr. Duclan and Asif Sahib. My late father had his first contact (in age 20 or 21) with Ahmadiyya Islam in the early '70s of the last century in the USA. While I, during my studies in high school (madrasa) and the Faculty of Islamic Studies in the capital of Kosovo, in Prishtina during my youth, I had the first contact with Ahmadiyya Islam and after deeply studies of the books and teachings of the founder of the Ahmadiyya Association, I made the decision and accepted that this is the true Islam that originates from the Holy Qur'an and the Tradition of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him).
bro the convo at 11:05 is CRAZYYY. like how on EARTH are people making such outrageous allegations? does common sense not reach their minds at all? Ya Allah that actually terrifies me, that some people, out of their state of disbelief/hatred towards this peaceful and beautiful community, would spread lies and willingly believe them to deceive/get in the way of Allah's plan. Crazy. May Allah guide everyone to the truth!
“Apni hi aagh mein rakh ho jaen ge” them people they only say these things out of hatred wallahi if they’ve read a single book of the promised messiah they won’t say this
When I was younger I questioned Ahmadiyyat (mainly due to the persecution me and my family faced). I started reading Sunni/Shia sources and asked their scholars questions only to realise within a matter of weeks that alhamdolillah I was on the right path. The amount of misinformation spread outside of Ahmadiyyat is astonishing.
pls my friend, you studied, saw the filthy character of mirza and your faith got stronger ??? which mirzais are the saved one ?? 1. Haqiqat Pasand Ahmadis 2. Lahori Ahmadis 3. Qadiani Ahmadis 4. Mouslemeen Ahmadis 5. Green Ahmadis 6. Sahih Ahmadis 7. Sultani Ahmadis 8. Anwar Ahmadis 9. Deedar Anjuman Ahmadis 10. Aljamaat Alislamiya Almohamadiya 11. Timapuri Ahmadis 12. Janbah Ahmadis
@@claudio_isenI will pray for you. Your scholars change the meaning of Quran through their deliberate false translations. That's bordering on Shirk You insult Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) yet his community has surpassed the Ummah in many things over the last 100 years. That is not something a false community could achive
I have listened this Podcast 9 times till today . Mr Asif Bast performed Brilliantly, How he answered and explained is highly appreciated Specifically i take his last words about the opponents who still survive. Mind blowing and Amazing.
"Don't just inherit your faith, understand it" what an amazing podcast!!! Kudos to Declan for asking pin point questions and the answers where just as sharp as the questions were. Asif Sb has nerve of steel.
Allhumdolillah what a beautiful representation mashallah…. Same old question and allegations… but I might applaud that he didn’t hold back, straight to the point questions …. So jezakallah Asif Sahib for tackling it very nicely TRUE ISLAM AHMADIYYAT ZINDABAD 😊
I am Ahmadi Muslim, and Alhamdulillah I never had any doubt on Ahmadiyya Muslim Community my entire life, in fact Allah shows me signs everyday that Islam Ahmadiyyat is true Islam and non-Ahmadi Muslims has no proof, no evidence of us being non-Muslim
No one in the world no molvi no mufti can give answers to an Ahmadi questions from Quran or Hadees. They all 72 sects run away when we bring out the Quran. Alhamdolillah proud to be an Ahmadi Muslim ❤
Give me a break, man 😅 Is that why your Jama'at refused to debate Imtiaz on the death of Isa (a.s) from Hadith, insisting it must be from the Quran only? Is that also why you guys refuse to debate the Zilli concept using the Quran and Ahadith, instead insisting on using Sufi Molvis as a criterion?
@@Habib-Rem Bro, first Imtiaz should learn the rules of debate. And Imtiaz and Adnan Rashid, they two are liars.They are just eyewash to the public for views.
@@eeeianfahim-sp9kp There are no rules of debate; it's like trying to make a ceasefire deal with Isn'treal. Every time someone agrees to your conditions, you come up with new ones.
There is no concept of " ahmadi muslims " in holy Qura'an, Sunah and hadith of last prophet of islam ,prophet Muhammad (pbuh). These kadyanis and their founder mirza ghulam e ahmed kadyanis have farbricated this name ( ahmedi muslims) of his own choice, this so called ahmadi muslims no where exists in Islam.( The prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is sealed i.e. last in the line of prophethoof, therr is no prophet after prophet Muhammad (pbuh,) any one who claims to be prophet will be dajjal, kazzab because prophethood has been sealed by Allah subban hi wa tallah .
Enjoyed the podcast. Head on. Not too familiar with Declan Henry, but he appears to have done his research. Any allegation and provocation has a purpose. As a researcher, its his job to push the buttons and poke some bears. I see comments on people getting offended but non-ahmadi muslims get offended by our beliefs and refuse to even acknowledge another way of thinking. Better to address rumours and false propaganda and sometimes justified criticism head one than ignore it.
Once an Ahmadi, will remain an Ahmadi! Yes! InshaAllah Ameen. Every Ahmadi Muslim must make a habit of reading Hazrat Massih e Maood AS’s books on daily basis to comprehend the beauty of Islam and oneness (tauheed) of Allah. As a born Ahmadi Muslim, it is our obligation to read and understand the claim of Hazrat Massih e Maood AS.
It was a nice session, but one thing i must say that Ahmadiyya Muslim Youth is more than 100% inclined to their faith. ALHUMDULILLAH I believe with my utmost faith that Mirza ghulam Ahmad a.s. is the promised messiah, messiah maud wa mehdi maud, the reformer of the age, the subordinate prophet(ummati nabi). "I SHALL CAUSE THY MESSAGE TO THE CORNERS OF THE EARTH" And guess a man(mirza ghulam ahmad) from a small village of punjab india called qadian' nobody knew him and qadian at that time' now the whole world knows whos mirza ghulam ahmad(the promised messiah a.s.) and where the qadian is. ALLAH had promised him and HE has, is and will continue to fulfil HIS promise. Bcoz AlLLAH does not leave his prophets alone.
Mr Declans points were based more on assumptions from critics then factual evidence. Indeed, the youth of today socialise more with wider communities, but this only helps broaden our perspective of the real world, it doesn’t weaken our faith in the truthfulness of the promised messiah. In fact the youth of today ask more open ended questions then the previous generations who followed their religion solely based on what was followed by their forefathers
Ahmadiyya Cult has been badly exposed by Adnan Rashid and Muhammad Imtiaz, lots of Ahmadis have left this cult during online stream. There was a guy called Raziullah from Ahmadiyya cult. He totally destroyed and exposed his own cult beliefs during those live streams.
Wow, Mr. Delan, an author and researcher extraordinaire... who's apparently been living under a rock, oblivious to the Ahmadiyya Caliph's English addresses and simultaneous translations into multiple languages, including English. This gap in his knowledge speaks volumes about his research skills... or lack thereof. Sorry, but this doesn't exactly fill me with confidence in his expertise or credibility. As the rest of the podcast progresses, this impression is only reaffirmed. 🤷
I am a Quranist. Grew up Ahmadi. Nowhere in Quran does it say that there will be a prophet after Muhammad. Nowhere in Quran does it say that Jesus will return. Nowhere in Quran is a Mahdi mentioned. So according to Quran there is no Messia promised and no Mahdi. The Ahmaddiya religion is based on hadiths,hadiths which have also misguided the Sunnis,and which are not the words of Allah. If anything the Quran says that Allah has completed his favour with Islam and Quran and that Muhammad is Khattam-ul-Nabiya. The word Khattam is also used in urdu/hindi,and can be used as to say something is finished or the last or over. Muhammad brought the Quran,Mirza Ghulam Ahmad hasnt managed to release a book like this. Most importantly in India alone where his religion was founded there are more Christians than there are Ahmaddis worldwide. These are facts,as Indians collect consensus data. Fact of matter is that the Quran is the basis and miracle of our religion,the Sunnis are misguided in their own way and the Ahmaddis are misguided in their own way. Just because the Sunnis,a lot of Muslims are misguided, doesn't mean that the Ahamddis are guided. 2 wrongs dont make one right.
Does in Quran it tells you to pray five times a day? You need to learn it from hadith or the sunnah of the Holy Prophet (saw). Learn from the source instead of making judgements. Have you read a single book of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama'at or its founder (as)??
Khattam just means seal, like a scroll being authenticated. You should know about law bearing and non law bearing prophets. In one of his sayings the Holy Prophet(saw) calls his uncle, Hazrat Abbas(ra), Khatamul Muhajireen (see Kanzul Ommal, Vol. VI, p. 178). But it does not mean that Abbas was the last Muhajir (refugee) of the whole Muslim world. Similarly, Hazrat Ali(ra) is called Khatamul Auliya (see Tafsir Safi under the Quranic verse 33:41). Ibn Khaldun says this phrase is understood to mean that Ali was a perfect saint and not the last (see Muqaddama, Vol. II pp. 165-167).
I am an Ahmady Muslim from Kyrgyzstan 🇰🇬 even if they were only 100 Ahmadies in the world and the all Khulafas were the members of the family of the Promised Messiah AS I would still believe in Ahmadiyyat and I am proud for that, Alhamdulillah! And I love our Khalifa❤ May Allah bless Him endless time and all Ahmady brothers and sisters all over the world 🤲
Have a few questions/comments: 1) How is he an ordinary ahmadi if he works for the group? 2) No person will admit guilt, especially if recorded that they are doing something wrong. Why will he admit to payment etc. 3) According to the ahmadis and the leadership, the lahoris are not muslims, why is he making as if they are?
@@ayaanexpo8157what do you expect from the toilet Don and his followers, it is stated in RUHANI kahazian that MGA once went to somebody house and was offered a bedroom he asked for the toilet to be hosed down and used that as his bedroom because of his urination problems. This is all in his books.
@@ayaanexpo8157 Declan admitted himself that other Sunni Muslims, including Barelvis like Asrar Rashid hurl insults and abuses when they aren't being recorded on camera. Real righteous men they are, right? If they're only speaking the truth, why are they afraid to say it on camera? We don't care to host people with sub-human decency. Second, we have had countless debates with non Ahmadi Muslims and there is a pending debate challenge to Asrar Rashid, which he is yet to accept. It's clear that he's just interesting in cashing in on the attention that opposing Jamaat Islam Ahmadiyya garners. Finally, it would make more sense to have a neutral moderator, not someone that is adamantly opposed to your existence and advocates for your killing in order to enter Jannah.
@gammaray3e3 Do you want them to insult your prophet on camera?! Again, as an Ahmadi, I'm not sure you’re in a position to criticize others for 'hurling insults and abuses'. Surely, among 2 billion Muslims, you can find a decent person. Declan also 'admitted' that Ahmadis are the ones putting up obstacles and avoiding debates with Muslims. And one more thing-why have you never accepted a debate on the truthfulness of MGA? I wonder why?!
@@ayaanexpo8157 Declan asked the very same questions your "scholars" would have asked. Only difference, he's more decent and would listen to the replies without interruptions or insults. For true seekers of truth this is sufficient.
39:45 - Shame on you for even saying this. Who ever said that Muhammad PBUH was schizophrenia. We could see, how you attack Muhammad PBUH. We are here to defend the honour of Muhammad PBUH on every platform. Could you do the same for your KAZZAB? you guys are not even ready to disucss his character? your KAZZAB is a disgrace.
these are questions that were never answered but always lurked somewhere at the back of my mind. bringing them out of the taboo finally has been such a relief and it is also a great response to people who oppose Ahmadiyya with the same accusations
MashAllah, great initiative, JazakAllah MKA UK. Asif Mahmood Basit sb was spot on throughout. The last 10-15 mins was sheer goosebumps. JazakAllah ahsanal jaza Asif sb.
The reason it's brought up so frequently is because it resolves the disputes between Ahmadi Muslims and non Ahmadi Muslims. If Isa (as) has passed away, then the natural conclusion is that someone *like* Isa (as) is to come, and since The Holy Prophet (saw) clearly stated that Isa (as) would be a prophet, this person to come would also be a prophet. The main difference between Ahmadi and Non Ahmadi Muslims is that they take a literal view, and we adopt the metaphorical. Second, if believing in the death of Isa (as) isn't essential to Sunni Islam, can I be a Sunni Muslim (like I assume you are) and still maintain that Isa (as) has passed away? If yes, then we have no point of contention. If no, then yes the death of Isa (as) does become a mandatory tenet in Sunni Islam.
@@gammaray3e3 No, if Isa (a.s.) has passed away, the natural conclusions could be that either Isa (a.s.) will return miraculously, the reports are fabricated, Prophet Muhammad misunderstood the wahi (since you believe prophets can make such mistakes), or that Isa ibn Maryam is a metaphor for a group of pious people... The possibilities are endless. You only interpret Ahadith metaphorically when they don’t align with MGA, but take them literally when they do. For example, he interpreted the combining of prayers and the eclipse literally.. Yes, you can be a Sunni Muslim and believe that Isa (a.s.) has died, but you cannot be a Muslim without believing that Prophet Muhammad is the last in the chain of prophethood.
@@ayaanexpo8157 You clearly have no understanding of our beliefs and theology. 1.) If Isa Isa (as) has passed away, please describe how he will return miraculously, you mean resurrection? Because if someone has died and then they return from death they have been resurrected, how do you substantiate such a belief. Second, we do not believe the reports were fabricated. We accept every word of them. Third, we do not believe that the Prophet Muhammad (saw) misunderstood wahi God forbid. It is not our belief that the prophets make mistakes such as misunderstanding revelation. I don't know how you draw such conclusions. 2.) I can say the exact same about you, you interpret hadith metaphorically when it suits you and literally when it doesn't. Sunnis, Shias, and Wahhabis (not to mention the hundreds of other sects) interpret the hadith literally or metaphorically to different degrees that is in line with their theology, so your point does not hold. Our balance of literal and metaphorical interpretation is not to just blindly support Ahmad (as) but rather to defend the honour of the prophets. What kind of gross disgusting belief would it be that Isa (as) will return and God forbid just run around literally killing pigs and literally breaking crosses. Similarly, that the Dajjal will ride on a giant donkey. These literalist interpretations don't make sense. 3.) Related to the first point, we don't believe Ahmad (as) not to be a new or independent prophet. I 100% agree with you that all independent and law-bearing prophethood has come to an end. We believe that Ahmad (as) has come as a prophet in the sense that he is completely subservient to The Holy Prophet (saw) and that any prophet out of the ummah of The Holy Prophet (saw) is completely forbidden. And again, your resurrection theory also holds no ground, if Isa (as) is passed away and buried somewhere, then how will the hadith of Isa (as)'s descent with two angels work, after all, according to you he will have to be God forbid clawing his way through the dirt and out of the ground (God forbid!) or would you then have to take these hadith metaphorically as well? See you yourself are taking certain hadith metaphorically or literally to fit your narrative, as is done by every sect of Islam. All in all, while we do disagree theologically, you do seem much more respectful than the other Non Ahmadi Muslims I've had discussions with and for that I thank you. JazakAllah and Wassalam.
unlike christianity and sunnism, the belief that Jesus is alive on the side of God is not a tenet of Islam 🙂. We however believe the same about every prophet, that they all passed away like the Quran.
@@gammaray3e3 * It doesn’t matter what your beliefs are; I’m speaking from a Muslim perspective. If you prove that Isa (a.s.) is dead, we still aren’t obliged to believe in MGA due to these possibilities: - If it’s a miracle, I don’t need to know how it happens; I’ll just take the messenger’s word for it. - We are justified in rejecting reports that contradict the Quran, just as you reject the hadith that says Isa will fight until only Islam remains. - If prophets don't misunderstand wahi, that would make MGA a false prophet for misinterpreting his wahi and prophecies. - And what about the possibility that Isa is a metaphor for a group of pious people? * Yes, you can say the same about us. We agree, then-you don’t take every prophecy as a metaphor, only the parts that can’t be applied to MGA, which is almost everything. * The hadith doesn’t mention multiple pigs or crosses. It says *يقتل الخنزير* (singular). If Isa (a.s.) kills one pig and breaks one cross, the prophecy is fulfilled. When he does that, Christians will follow him, stop eating pig, and abandon the Trinity. * MGA is a new prophet-there’s no arguing that. You can phrase it however you like, but it doesn’t change the fact. By the way, MGA admitted he brought a sharia. And let’s not forget, MGA claimed he was the second coming of Prophet Muhammad and that his second coming was even better than the first. If you’re on FB or Twitter, we can take the discussion there.
A message to Mr. Declan Henry, I am a young Ahmadi Muslim who grew up in a rural, predominantly Caucasian community in North America. I am proud to say that despite the society around me, I am firm and staunch member of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, as it is the only Muslim group in the world that practices (and preaches) the exact same teachings as the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw). Ahmadiyya zindabad! Inni ma’aka ya Masroor!
According to the PakistanCensus 2017, Ahmadiyya Population in Pakistan is 207688. We Ahmadies should be truthful about our Population. I agree with Declan Henry that ahmdies are no where near 12 million (1 crore 20 Laakh). Ahmadiyya Administration should publish Realistic figure based on own census and clear this issue.
Fajr can be made on your way to work in your transport ALLAH Almighty doesn't make it difficult for us 🤩ALLAH Almighty knows exactly what is in your Heart 😍we must get rid of all Evil Habits and Arrogance 🙄 we must control what is between our lips and what is between our LEGS also🙄 then ALLAH Almighty will be pleased with us 😍
ISLAM AHMADIYYA IS TRUE ISLAM ALHAMDOLILLAH !!! The only reason you need to believe that this is the very same JAMAH Community that was PROMISED to come by Muhammad Rasool’Allah saw himself and he described what they’ll look like and how they’ll be, which is explained in Surah Verse Jumah of holy Quran and Hadith elaborating this Verse of holy Quran by Muhammad Rasool’Allah saw himself. Alhamdolillah proud to be AHMADI MUSLIM !
what is this chanda compulsory payment they demand? Where in the Quran, Hadith or works of Fiqh does it mention this? Sounds like cultish behaviour to me
Declan needs to use his rationality more 😂Does he not get the fact that atheists and non religious believers think religion as a whole, is a cult, would he start crying about that too??? The other sunni/shia sects have death for people who leave (death for apostates) religion, thats the most cult like 😂😂
Reform islam....therein lies the problem. 1000s of years of islamic scholarship, but still instead of analysing existing texts and chains of narrations, a need to reform islam in India was a British project. Reform really means undo, it means destroying.
My father joined Ahmadiyya from Sunni Islam. We live in Tanzania thousands of miles from Qaidan.
This answers many questions of Mr. Declan. And yes I am young not drifting away from my faith. Listening to this podcast has just increased my passion for tabligh. I feel that I need to do more to preach the message of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (a.s), and In'shaa'Allah I will do it till my death
16 and I'm not drifting away from my faith either.
MashAllah
In Holy Quran 2:261,And remember when Abraham said, ‘My Lord, show me how Thou givest life to the dead.’ He said, ‘Hast thou not believe?’ He said, ‘Yes, but I ask this so that my heart may be at rest.’ He answered, ‘Take four birds and make them attached to thyself. Then put each of them on a hill; then call them; they will come to thee in haste. And know that Allah is Mighty and Wise.’
Besides the afterlife, there is reference to 4 nations that shall rise and fall in ways know to Allah:
1. Nabi Musa was a Great law- bearing Prophet sent for the tribes of Israel with commandments and verities of wisdom that was suited for the Children of Israel at that stage of spiritual and physical requirements.
2. Prophet Isa (Jesus’ peace be upon Him) was the Messiah sent by God to guide the various Tribes of Israel according to the true teachings of the Torah and with the Gospel. He came about 1300 years after Prophet Musa.
3. The Holy Prophet Muhammed is the Last Great law -bearing prophet sent for the whole of mankind with blessings of spiritual guidance and signaling physical/ economic/ secular/technological blessings.
4. The Promised Messiah Nabi Ahmad was sent by God to guide people to the true teachings of the Holy Quran. In the time of the Promised Messiah there are various spiritual blessings and signaling physical/secular/economic/technological blessings. He arrived about 1300 years after the Holy Prophet.
ما شاء الله سبحان الله
MashAllah bro❤❤❤😊
My great grandfather travelled across the Indian subcontinent to accept the message of Ahmadiyya Islam at the hand of The Promised Messiah (AS) in early 1900’s. I am a fourth generation Ahmadi Muslim born in West Yorkshire, England. The faith of those that have been brought through the Ahmadiyya system, including its auxiliaries, remains as firm as it was decades ago. Why? Because it’s based upon teachings of love, peace and creating upstanding members of society led by a true divinely guided caliphate.
Love and peace so why the killing?
@@joannetolond5782 Which killing? Please be specific
As an Ahmadi Muslim and a police officer in Canada, I frequently interact with youths and adults from a wide range of backgrounds, ethnicities, and religious beliefs. My job has given me the opportunity to visit various places of worship and attend religious events across different communities, including Sikhs, Hindus, Christians, Jews, Sunnis, and Shias, as well as those who are non-religious. Throughout my experiences, I have been profoundly impressed by the level of youth engagement within the Ahmadiyya community. I've never witnessed such active participation among young people in any other community. Even my co-workers, who have visited our Jalsa Salana and Ahmadi mosques, were astonished by the number of young individuals actively involved in mosque activities, especially when compared to the attendance they observe in their own churches. Alhamdulillah
@@sairbajwa9354 watch this debate with open eye with full consciousness
As far as if you compare the churches it might be the case. But average youth involvement in Sunni mosques far exceeds what you see with ahmadiyya community.
People with slave mentality.
Hi Police-Man, maybe you can help me out: imagine a man hunts a married woman and writes about her nakedness and uglyness IN PUBLIC in newspaper - or, imagine he would hunt your mother or married sister - be very honest - HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ???
mirza this cursed individual was hunting Muhammadi-Begum UNTIL HIS MISERABLE DEATH !!
to your proudness:
once you start giving the ahmadi youth the real Kuffr believe of mirza the promissed dajal who was all-in-one, you will witness a lot of confusion
so keep hide the real believe of them if you want to stay proud
may Allah guide you brother !
keep on going officer
As a young Ahmadi Muslim who was not only interested in learning my faith but totally passionate about it, I am very proud of my faith in Islam Ahmadiyya.
Many people say that opposition is what makes things difficult or weak but I totally oppose this view and say that instead it makes one even tougher and greater.
Our opponents have tried everything to stop my community and yet we’ve since the resilience and the faith within Ahmadi Muslims growing.
Opposition makes us even prouder in our journey because we are living the way and facing challenges the way every community of God faced.
Young Ahmadis drifting away?
You should bring him to Jalsa 1 week before it starts. Let him see how 16-18 year old boys live in Hadeeqatul Mahdi giving up their holidays, to set up an event for 40,000 people.
those are the days every ahmadi kid is waiting for 😂
He is right . Young Ahmadies are drifting away. And it’s a family firm . I myself born in an Ahmadi family but don’t agree with this culture.
@@mohsinarfat4432pray, pray and pray this is what ahmadiyya culture is if you are praying hard you will never dislike islam ahmadiyyat 😊.
@@alhamdulillah.207 I think you should pray for yourself and research about your beliefs.
@@mohsinarfat4432 maybe where you live, where I live, Ahmadis khudam are more active than ansar
I am proud Ahmadi American Muslim, converted to Ahmadiyyat when I was 21-22 years old, after researching all other sects of Islam and study most of the contemporary issues. Alhamdulillah I am thank full to God Almighty who showed me the light of Ahmadiyya Islam. The True Islam.
brother, mirza was an atheist - if you believe in Allah sw. follow Muhamamd as., if you believe in Yalash and Tichi-Tichi follow mirza the promissed dajal
@@claudio_isen mirza Ghulaam Ahmad Qadiani (AS) was true servant of God Almighty and true obedience of Holy Prophet of God ( pbuh)
Allah Ta ala , send him to revive/reform the religion of Islam, as an Imam Mahdi/ promised Messiah. So he is ummati Nabi ( sub servant prophet of Muhammad pbuh.
@@syedtrueahmadi Mashallah brother
@@syedtrueahmadi
yes, nice idea, where did you get it from ? brother, Muhammad as. is the last prophet and Isa ibn Mariam will come in the end times, not Sharuh-Khan.
Study Islam, otherwise you will only wake up when you die, you have been completely deceived.
look, here's a nice lie too, your community lies every day just to make you feel like you have a lot of members!
In your welcome PDF WelcomeBook2ndEd it says for the year 2001:
Last year alone, more than 81 million men, women and children joined Ahmadiyyat around the world.
Are there close to 100,000,000 Ahmadis? Then why do you see mostly Punjabi faces in the jalsas?
I guess all dogs, cats and birds were also counted ?
leave this man-made religion - its a fake brother
@@claudio_isenand its Muhammed (saw) not Muhammed (as). I hope you would be able to correct that mistake atleast.
I am 21, and a proud Ahmadi Muslim. I have researched and questioned our beliefs thoroughly, understanding the differences between Ahmadi Muslim and non-Ahmadi Muslims. I have read and listened to the arguments of the opponents of Jamaat Islam Ahmadiyya patiently, and by the grace of Allah The Almighty, I remain convinced about the truthfulness of Jamaat Islam Ahmadiyya and its love for The Holy Prophet (saw). I respectfully disagree with Mr. Declan Henry on the assertion that the youth of the Jamaat are wavering in their faith, as I have observed quite the opposite first hand. Alhamdulillah.
Did you know Mirza confessed to having a mental illness? and did you know Allah tells us in the Qur'an, prophets can never be mentally ill. So please do more research
@@nidaul-islam4581I have heard of these allegations before, and you are wrong. Hazrat Masih Maud (as) did not admit to having mental illness as you assert. Second, you're just like the Jews of Medina and modern day Christians and Atheists who attack The Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) of God forbid having some sort of mental illness. Do more research yourself instead of blindly believing everything you read out of context writings. Wassalam.
@@gammaray3e3 Go and read 'seerat ul mahdi' and make sure you read the section about his mental illness. I have been reading his books for the past 18 months, and with the grace of Allah, my whole family and I, rejected Mirza kazzab
In Holy Quran 2:261,And remember when Abraham said, ‘My Lord, show me how Thou givest life to the dead.’ He said, ‘Hast thou not believe?’ He said, ‘Yes, but I ask this so that my heart may be at rest.’ He answered, ‘Take four birds and make them attached to thyself. Then put each of them on a hill; then call them; they will come to thee in haste. And know that Allah is Mighty and Wise.’
Besides the afterlife, there is reference to 4 nations that shall rise and fall in ways know to Allah:
1. Nabi Musa was a Great law- bearing Prophet sent for the tribes of Israel with commandments and verities of wisdom that was suited for the Children of Israel at that stage of spiritual and physical requirements.
2. Prophet Isa (Jesus’ peace be upon Him) was the Messiah sent by God to guide the various Tribes of Israel according to the true teachings of the Torah and with the Gospel. He came about 1300 years after Prophet Musa.
3. The Holy Prophet Muhammed is the Last Greatest law -bearing prophet sent for the whole of mankind with blessings of spiritual guidance and signaling physical/ economic/ secular/technological blessings.
4. The Promised Messiah Nabi Ahmad was sent by God to guide people to the true teachings of the Holy Quran. In the time of the Promised Messiah there are various spiritual blessings and signaling physical/secular/economic/technological blessings. He arrived about 1300 years after the Holy Prophet.
Just to add** I have listened to and watched the arguments (if you can even call them that) put forth by the Likes of Adnan Rashid and Imtiaz. Before them there was a guy named "Farid Responds" before him there was the "ahmadiyyat 'fact' checkblog" fella. I have watched videos from these people and I have read articles from Mr. Bashir Shah's website and I remain unconvinced in their poor collective attempts to prove Islam Ahmadiyya as false. They usually end up resorting to personal attacks and harassing individuals using burner accounts because of their poor theological grounding.
As an 18-year-old Ahmadi, I am very firm in my faith. I have done my research on the truthfulness of Islam Ahmadiyya. And seeing the state of the world today, It is only Islam that can save it. And true Islam is Ahmadiyya Islam since its basis is on the holy Quran and the word of the holy prophet.
where does it says in Holy Quran that Mirza Ghulam Qadiani Sahab is a Prophet or a Messiah or a Mahdi?
The Promised Messiah, Imam Mahdi is The Imam Of The Age foretold of his coming by The Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) though it is not categorically mentioned in The Quraan, likewise, where does it mentioned in The Quraan that the current ulema, muslim scholars are The Promised Imam Of The Age as foretold by The Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw).
I hope you see sense someday and get the help you need to leave this cult
Where is your so called Lanti Imams mentioned in quran and hadith
@@sullyqureshi676 Allah knows well whether it is mentioned or not, the misguided will always have something to go against His chosen IMAM(leader) as such, it makes no different.
Great podcast. Jazakumallah! I am father of 4 children. All raised in western culture, strongly attached with Jama'at and Khalifat. Devoting their time for the propagation of Islam and Ahmadiyyat without any issue. Alhamdolillah, my grand children are following the same foot steps. May Allah protect them and keep them all on the right path.
MashaAllah Alhamdolilah ❤️❤️🤲🤲
What an amazing podcast, we need definitely more of these, it would be even more interesting to invite complete opposition parties. Well done to the team 🌹❤️
@@modassarraja1193 watch this debate
50:17
Here, Declan is pointing towards the fact that the youth of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat will/are slowly move away from religion according to critics.
Let Declan Henry know, we the youth of the community, we will stick to Ahmadiyya Islam till our last breath. Those among us youth that are the basis upon which the "critics" put their allegations, are ignorant, they do not read or gain knowledge. I, am a youth of the community, and I know many other youth, who will stand by the truth we have found, until the Day of Judgment. Let Declan Henry, and the "critics" know, they have no knowledge about the youth of the community, or who God is causing to be born among the youth of the community, and what sacrifices the youth of the communtiy will do.
Its a reality that the Christian youth, and the Jewish youth, and the Hindu youth, all will turn away from their religions, but the Ahmadiyya youth (the Muslim youth) will forever remain.
What a wonderful session.
More pkease
No more it's a Shame g8ving twisted answers
What a wonderful Video! It should have been uploaded to MTA main channel so that it would reach most people
My great grand parent and his children joined ahmadiyyat with few days of exchanges talk with an ahmadi missionary at that time , they finally had answer to their question and they were the only family members that accepted ahmadiyyat.
Today we are the 3rd generation of born ahmadi, all family members are all ahmadi by the grace of Allah and many members of the family are abroad in different ahmadi jamaat across the world.
This is the blessing of a true jamaat and the ultimate truth of the promised messiah alsm.
Not really, just means you are following the religion you are born to
Amazing podcast. Jazak'Allah for this episode. This was an exhilarating conversation. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Bold questions. Heartfelt answers. ❤️
Islam Ahmadiyyat Zindabad
@@mzafarullah4670 اسلام زنده باد
ختم نبوت زنده باد
دجال مردہ باد
For what?
Assalam u Alaikum (peace be upon you), MashAllah Asif Mahmood Basit done very well here in answering in a polite, respectful and accurate manner. It was a bit disappointing that Declan Henry kept on stating his opinion or "criticism from others"(which when asked there is no solid evidence to back up this) as facts. Some examples are below:
Hazoor (The leader) does not do speeches in English - False there is countless speeches by Hazoor (the leader) in English. when he is giving a speech to an audience whose first language is mostly Urdu it makes sense to give the speech in Urdu. When the audience as a majority understands English, he speaks in English. Also, all speeches are translated and are often even translated live so it can "reach the corners of the earth".
Ahmadiyya community youth are drifting away and they are really big challenges that Ahmadiyya Jammat are facing and so will see a decline in 20 years - No solid evidence provided (and no evidence can ever be provided as only God knows the level of righteousness of an individual and the future) and also wording it in a way that the ongoing challenges in the world are only faced by the Ahmadiyya community and not the rest of the religions such as Christianity. This is false all people and religions have and will always face challenges. Again, Asif Mahmood Basit addressed this point respectfully and summarised this in his final words.
Lastly, a criticism that that the Ahmadiyya community is not sufficiently passing on their message to others e.g. Christians - this is again an opinion and how can anyone determine the rate a religion’s message’s should be passed on (This is up to God’s Will and his plan. God is the best planner) . Ahmadiyya community and their hazoor try to pass on their message to everyone they are able to. We are all blessed by God to have free will to accept or reject this. The community has 12-15 million members which is impressive based on how recently it has been founded and has ever since grown rapidly. We must remember that humanity cannot frustrate God's plan if he wants Ahmadiyya to spread at a certain rate it will do that. Not faster or slower.
He was saying lies only.
@@hablalbhat7145 who ?
I'm here in Africa and as an Ahmadi Muslim. If you say I joined the community because of promises made to us is so absurd and a disrespect to our intelligence as Africans
Jazakallah Brother for your true answer.
Stic Tight 😂 I see u wavering
Respect!
as a 20 year old young ahmadi, i see from my personal experience that listening to these podcast has motivated most of us to actually study our faith and made us closer to the truth and also motivated us to preach to others what we discovered in our study of our faith. maybe 1/100 have gotten astray but 99 have certian became more passionate and motivated to serve
Asif Basit sahib's answers are truly remarkable. It's hard to imagine anyone providing better responses or counters than him.
He is lying and confused no straight answer.
@@jamaluddin1597Cap
@@jamaluddin1597 Evidence?
@@jamaluddin1597😂😂😂jahil baba
@@jamaluddin1597 these are the followers of a man that urinated nearly 100 times a day. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Amazing podcast. May Allah bless Asif Sahib. Despite the fact that he has regular contact with Khalifatul Masih (aba), he still remains extremely humble and answers these types of questions regularly on the ground.
Khalifatul Masih LANATULLAH ALAYHI BESHUMAR
Young, proud and blessed, absolutely written in stone for me. May Allah guide us all towards the right path. Ameen
Full respect for both, Mr. Duclan and Asif Sahib. My late father had his first contact (in age 20 or 21) with Ahmadiyya Islam in the early '70s of the last century in the USA. While I, during my studies in high school (madrasa) and the Faculty of Islamic Studies in the capital of Kosovo, in Prishtina during my youth, I had the first contact with Ahmadiyya Islam and after deeply studies of the books and teachings of the founder of the Ahmadiyya Association, I made the decision and accepted that this is the true Islam that originates from the Holy Qur'an and the Tradition of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him).
bro the convo at 11:05 is CRAZYYY. like how on EARTH are people making such outrageous allegations? does common sense not reach their minds at all? Ya Allah that actually terrifies me, that some people, out of their state of disbelief/hatred towards this peaceful and beautiful community, would spread lies and willingly believe them to deceive/get in the way of Allah's plan. Crazy. May Allah guide everyone to the truth!
آمين
“Apni hi aagh mein rakh ho jaen ge”
them people they only say these things out of hatred wallahi if they’ve read a single book of the promised messiah they won’t say this
Well done Asif basit sahib
When I was younger I questioned Ahmadiyyat (mainly due to the persecution me and my family faced). I started reading Sunni/Shia sources and asked their scholars questions only to realise within a matter of weeks that alhamdolillah I was on the right path. The amount of misinformation spread outside of Ahmadiyyat is astonishing.
pls my friend, you studied, saw the filthy character of mirza and your faith got stronger ???
which mirzais are the saved one ??
1. Haqiqat Pasand Ahmadis
2. Lahori Ahmadis
3. Qadiani Ahmadis
4. Mouslemeen Ahmadis
5. Green Ahmadis
6. Sahih Ahmadis
7. Sultani Ahmadis
8. Anwar Ahmadis
9. Deedar Anjuman Ahmadis
10. Aljamaat Alislamiya Almohamadiya
11. Timapuri Ahmadis
12. Janbah Ahmadis
@@claudio_isenI will pray for you. Your scholars change the meaning of Quran through their deliberate false translations. That's bordering on Shirk
You insult Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) yet his community has surpassed the Ummah in many things over the last 100 years. That is not something a false community could achive
Ahmadiyyat Zindabad ✊✊
Wonderful podcast. All questions dealt really well.
We are proud Ahmadi Muslim youth and Islam Ahmadiyat is the only true and peaceful Islam for us.
I have listened this Podcast 9 times till today . Mr Asif Bast performed Brilliantly, How he answered and explained is highly appreciated Specifically i take his last words about the opponents who still survive. Mind blowing and Amazing.
Brilliantly dodged yes
Declan Henry love to you from Canada.
Thank you for doing this interview.
Very interesting and thought provoking.
Tough questions but very well answered.Great job by Basit Sahib
All answers are based on lies, deceptions,
"Don't just inherit your faith, understand it"
what an amazing podcast!!!
Kudos to Declan for asking pin point questions and the answers where just as sharp as the questions were. Asif Sb has nerve of steel.
Mashallah great podcast.
A great podcast
Allhumdolillah what a beautiful representation mashallah…. Same old question and allegations… but I might applaud that he didn’t hold back, straight to the point questions …. So jezakallah Asif Sahib for tackling it very nicely
TRUE ISLAM AHMADIYYAT ZINDABAD 😊
I am Ahmadi Muslim, and Alhamdulillah I never had any doubt on Ahmadiyya Muslim Community my entire life, in fact Allah shows me signs everyday that Islam Ahmadiyyat is true Islam and non-Ahmadi Muslims has no proof, no evidence of us being non-Muslim
No one in the world no molvi no mufti can give answers to an Ahmadi questions from Quran or Hadees. They all 72 sects run away when we bring out the Quran. Alhamdolillah proud to be an Ahmadi Muslim ❤
Give me a break, man 😅
Is that why your Jama'at refused to debate Imtiaz on the death of Isa (a.s) from Hadith, insisting it must be from the Quran only?
Is that also why you guys refuse to debate the Zilli concept using the Quran and Ahadith, instead insisting on using Sufi Molvis as a criterion?
Speaking of sects, here’s a question:
Which sect did MGA belong to before his supposed prophethood? 😏
which mirzais are the saved one ??
1. Haqiqat Pasand Ahmadis
2. Lahori Ahmadis
3. Qadiani Ahmadis
4. Mouslemeen Ahmadis
5. Green Ahmadis
6. Sahih Ahmadis
7. Sultani Ahmadis
8. Anwar Ahmadis
9. Deedar Anjuman Ahmadis
10. Aljamaat Alislamiya Almohamadiya
11. Timapuri Ahmadis
12. Janbah Ahmadis
@@Habib-Rem Bro, first Imtiaz should learn the rules of debate. And Imtiaz and Adnan Rashid, they two are liars.They are just eyewash to the public for views.
@@eeeianfahim-sp9kp
There are no rules of debate; it's like trying to make a ceasefire deal with Isn'treal.
Every time someone agrees to your conditions, you come up with new ones.
The lion of Islam is returning soon. Be ready
We can just preach or tell people but it’s totally dependent upon them whether they understand/believe or not
Marvellous thoughts, Thank you so much.
God bless both participants, it was a very open and honest discussion, which the audience members could benefit from.
Absolutely brilliant . Really enjoyed listening to this honest and challenging discussion.
There is no concept of " ahmadi muslims " in holy Qura'an, Sunah and hadith of last prophet of islam ,prophet Muhammad (pbuh). These kadyanis and their founder mirza ghulam e ahmed kadyanis have farbricated this name ( ahmedi muslims) of his own choice, this so called ahmadi muslims no where exists in Islam.( The prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is sealed i.e. last in the line of prophethoof, therr is no prophet after prophet Muhammad (pbuh,) any one who claims to be prophet will be dajjal, kazzab because prophethood has been sealed by Allah subban hi wa tallah .
Enjoyed the podcast. Head on. Not too familiar with Declan Henry, but he appears to have done his research. Any allegation and provocation has a purpose. As a researcher, its his job to push the buttons and poke some bears. I see comments on people getting offended but non-ahmadi muslims get offended by our beliefs and refuse to even acknowledge another way of thinking. Better to address rumours and false propaganda and sometimes justified criticism head one than ignore it.
Once an Ahmadi, will remain an Ahmadi! Yes! InshaAllah Ameen. Every Ahmadi Muslim must make a habit of reading Hazrat Massih e Maood AS’s books on daily basis to comprehend the beauty of Islam and oneness (tauheed) of Allah. As a born Ahmadi Muslim, it is our obligation to read and understand the claim of Hazrat Massih e Maood AS.
Basit sahab great answers. And your way of talk. Islam Ahmadiyya Zindabad.
It was a nice session, but one thing i must say that Ahmadiyya Muslim Youth is more than 100% inclined to their faith. ALHUMDULILLAH
I believe with my utmost faith that Mirza ghulam Ahmad a.s. is the promised messiah, messiah maud wa mehdi maud, the reformer of the age, the subordinate prophet(ummati nabi).
"I SHALL CAUSE THY MESSAGE TO THE CORNERS OF THE EARTH"
And guess a man(mirza ghulam ahmad) from a small village of punjab india called qadian' nobody knew him and qadian at that time' now the whole world knows whos mirza ghulam ahmad(the promised messiah a.s.) and where the qadian is.
ALLAH had promised him and HE has, is and will continue to fulfil HIS promise. Bcoz AlLLAH does not leave his prophets alone.
Mr Declans points were based more on assumptions from critics then factual evidence. Indeed, the youth of today socialise more with wider communities, but this only helps broaden our perspective of the real world, it doesn’t weaken our faith in the truthfulness of the promised messiah. In fact the youth of today ask more open ended questions then the previous generations who followed their religion solely based on what was followed by their forefathers
Mashallah, Very nice message for the Nation, Most important conversations to open the eyes of people.
This is absolutely astounding it should be widely shared widely
Your caliph cant even recite Quran go watch his recitation of surah Fatiha. So wake up and ponder over the death of mirza ghulam how he died.
Ahmadiyya Cult has been badly exposed by Adnan Rashid and Muhammad Imtiaz, lots of Ahmadis have left this cult during online stream. There was a guy called Raziullah from Ahmadiyya cult. He totally destroyed and exposed his own cult beliefs during those live streams.
Masha Allah Islam ahmadiyya zindabad ❤
Wow, Mr. Delan, an author and researcher extraordinaire... who's apparently been living under a rock, oblivious to the Ahmadiyya Caliph's English addresses and simultaneous translations into multiple languages, including English. This gap in his knowledge speaks volumes about his research skills... or lack thereof. Sorry, but this doesn't exactly fill me with confidence in his expertise or credibility. As the rest of the podcast progresses, this impression is only reaffirmed. 🤷
MashAllah I am amazed❣️
Asif Sahib. You have a lot of patience.
Allah bless you.
I am a Quranist. Grew up Ahmadi. Nowhere in Quran does it say that there will be a prophet after Muhammad. Nowhere in Quran does it say that Jesus will return. Nowhere in Quran is a Mahdi mentioned. So according to Quran there is no Messia promised and no Mahdi. The Ahmaddiya religion is based on hadiths,hadiths which have also misguided the Sunnis,and which are not the words of Allah. If anything the Quran says that Allah has completed his favour with Islam and Quran and that Muhammad is Khattam-ul-Nabiya. The word Khattam is also used in urdu/hindi,and can be used as to say something is finished or the last or over. Muhammad brought the Quran,Mirza Ghulam Ahmad hasnt managed to release a book like this. Most importantly in India alone where his religion was founded there are more Christians than there are Ahmaddis worldwide. These are facts,as Indians collect consensus data. Fact of matter is that the Quran is the basis and miracle of our religion,the Sunnis are misguided in their own way and the Ahmaddis are misguided in their own way. Just because the Sunnis,a lot of Muslims are misguided, doesn't mean that the Ahamddis are guided. 2 wrongs dont make one right.
Does in Quran it tells you to pray five times a day? You need to learn it from hadith or the sunnah of the Holy Prophet (saw). Learn from the source instead of making judgements. Have you read a single book of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama'at or its founder (as)??
Khattam just means seal, like a scroll being authenticated. You should know about law bearing and non law bearing prophets.
In one of his sayings the Holy Prophet(saw) calls his uncle, Hazrat Abbas(ra), Khatamul Muhajireen (see Kanzul Ommal, Vol. VI, p. 178). But it does not mean that Abbas was the last Muhajir (refugee) of the whole Muslim world.
Similarly, Hazrat Ali(ra) is called Khatamul Auliya (see Tafsir Safi under the Quranic verse 33:41). Ibn Khaldun says this phrase is understood to mean that Ali was a perfect saint and not the last (see Muqaddama, Vol. II pp. 165-167).
Ahmadiyyat is the True Islam the very Islam of Prophet Muhammad PBUH.
Allah Akber
Stunning podcast. Alhamdulilallah
"Understand your Faith, don't just inherit it" Jazakkallah Asif Mahmood Basit saheb for this timeless advice 💐💐💐
This podcast is well-structured and informative. Mr. Asif provides concise and relevant answers, avoiding unnecessary elaboration.
Mashallah ❤
I am an Ahmady Muslim from Kyrgyzstan 🇰🇬 even if they were only 100 Ahmadies in the world and the all Khulafas were the members of the family of the Promised Messiah AS I would still believe in Ahmadiyyat and I am proud for that, Alhamdulillah! And I love our Khalifa❤ May Allah bless Him endless time and all Ahmady brothers and sisters all over the world 🤲
Mashallah brother stay blessed. Ameen
Inspiring conversation
5:20: The answer is that his speeches are always translated, even live.
Declan came to the peace symposium but hasnt heard the Caliph speak English. Make it make sense.
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Jazak’Allah. The podcast was really interesting
mashallah super ❤
Wow
Wonderful
MashaAllah
ما شاء الله سبحان الله
جَزَاکَمُ اللّٰہ اَحْسَنَ الْجَزَاء Murabbi Sahib
Alhamdulillah 3:38
Have a few questions/comments:
1) How is he an ordinary ahmadi if he works for the group?
2) No person will admit guilt, especially if recorded that they are doing something wrong. Why will he admit to payment etc.
3) According to the ahmadis and the leadership, the lahoris are not muslims, why is he making as if they are?
Mashallah very nice
A much needed overview of the Ahmadiyya interpretation of Islam
Amazing podcast
These are not recognised as muslims. They have an imposter prophet. May Allah guide them in the right path, Ameen
We need more of such podcast. Tough questions and straight answers. Well done Basit Shb 👍
It’s funny how they’re fine with taking questions from a layman Christian but refuse to host any Muslim.
@@ayaanexpo8157what do you expect from the toilet Don and his followers, it is stated in RUHANI kahazian that MGA once went to somebody house and was offered a bedroom he asked for the toilet to be hosed down and used that as his bedroom because of his urination problems. This is all in his books.
@@ayaanexpo8157 Declan admitted himself that other Sunni Muslims, including Barelvis like Asrar Rashid hurl insults and abuses when they aren't being recorded on camera. Real righteous men they are, right? If they're only speaking the truth, why are they afraid to say it on camera? We don't care to host people with sub-human decency. Second, we have had countless debates with non Ahmadi Muslims and there is a pending debate challenge to Asrar Rashid, which he is yet to accept. It's clear that he's just interesting in cashing in on the attention that opposing Jamaat Islam Ahmadiyya garners. Finally, it would make more sense to have a neutral moderator, not someone that is adamantly opposed to your existence and advocates for your killing in order to enter Jannah.
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Do you want them to insult your prophet on camera?!
Again, as an Ahmadi, I'm not sure you’re in a position to criticize others for 'hurling insults and abuses'.
Surely, among 2 billion Muslims, you can find a decent person.
Declan also 'admitted' that Ahmadis are the ones putting up obstacles and avoiding debates with Muslims.
And one more thing-why have you never accepted a debate on the truthfulness of MGA? I wonder why?!
@@ayaanexpo8157 Declan asked the very same questions your "scholars" would have asked. Only difference, he's more decent and would listen to the replies without interruptions or insults. For true seekers of truth this is sufficient.
39:45 - Shame on you for even saying this. Who ever said that Muhammad PBUH was schizophrenia. We could see, how you attack Muhammad PBUH. We are here to defend the honour of Muhammad PBUH on every platform. Could you do the same for your KAZZAB? you guys are not even ready to disucss his character? your KAZZAB is a disgrace.
these are questions that were never answered but always lurked somewhere at the back of my mind. bringing them out of the taboo finally has been such a relief and it is also a great response to people who oppose Ahmadiyya with the same accusations
Our Babys also love our Caliph
MashAllah, great initiative, JazakAllah MKA UK.
Asif Mahmood Basit sb was spot on throughout. The last 10-15 mins was sheer goosebumps. JazakAllah ahsanal jaza Asif sb.
what an awesome podcast, so many questions answered in a respectful and educative tone
51:50
Breaking news, Mr. Asif: Unlike Christianity and Ahmadiyya, the life or death of Isa (a.s) isn’t a tenet of Islam. 🙂
The reason it's brought up so frequently is because it resolves the disputes between Ahmadi Muslims and non Ahmadi Muslims. If Isa (as) has passed away, then the natural conclusion is that someone *like* Isa (as) is to come, and since The Holy Prophet (saw) clearly stated that Isa (as) would be a prophet, this person to come would also be a prophet. The main difference between Ahmadi and Non Ahmadi Muslims is that they take a literal view, and we adopt the metaphorical. Second, if believing in the death of Isa (as) isn't essential to Sunni Islam, can I be a Sunni Muslim (like I assume you are) and still maintain that Isa (as) has passed away? If yes, then we have no point of contention. If no, then yes the death of Isa (as) does become a mandatory tenet in Sunni Islam.
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No, if Isa (a.s.) has passed away, the natural conclusions could be that either Isa (a.s.) will return miraculously, the reports are fabricated, Prophet Muhammad misunderstood the wahi (since you believe prophets can make such mistakes), or that Isa ibn Maryam is a metaphor for a group of pious people...
The possibilities are endless.
You only interpret Ahadith metaphorically when they don’t align with MGA, but take them literally when they do.
For example, he interpreted the combining of prayers and the eclipse literally..
Yes, you can be a Sunni Muslim and believe that Isa (a.s.) has died, but you cannot be a Muslim without believing that Prophet Muhammad is the last in the chain of prophethood.
@@ayaanexpo8157 You clearly have no understanding of our beliefs and theology.
1.) If Isa Isa (as) has passed away, please describe how he will return miraculously, you mean resurrection? Because if someone has died and then they return from death they have been resurrected, how do you substantiate such a belief. Second, we do not believe the reports were fabricated. We accept every word of them. Third, we do not believe that the Prophet Muhammad (saw) misunderstood wahi God forbid. It is not our belief that the prophets make mistakes such as misunderstanding revelation. I don't know how you draw such conclusions.
2.) I can say the exact same about you, you interpret hadith metaphorically when it suits you and literally when it doesn't. Sunnis, Shias, and Wahhabis (not to mention the hundreds of other sects) interpret the hadith literally or metaphorically to different degrees that is in line with their theology, so your point does not hold. Our balance of literal and metaphorical interpretation is not to just blindly support Ahmad (as) but rather to defend the honour of the prophets. What kind of gross disgusting belief would it be that Isa (as) will return and God forbid just run around literally killing pigs and literally breaking crosses. Similarly, that the Dajjal will ride on a giant donkey. These literalist interpretations don't make sense.
3.) Related to the first point, we don't believe Ahmad (as) not to be a new or independent prophet. I 100% agree with you that all independent and law-bearing prophethood has come to an end. We believe that Ahmad (as) has come as a prophet in the sense that he is completely subservient to The Holy Prophet (saw) and that any prophet out of the ummah of The Holy Prophet (saw) is completely forbidden. And again, your resurrection theory also holds no ground, if Isa (as) is passed away and buried somewhere, then how will the hadith of Isa (as)'s descent with two angels work, after all, according to you he will have to be God forbid clawing his way through the dirt and out of the ground (God forbid!) or would you then have to take these hadith metaphorically as well? See you yourself are taking certain hadith metaphorically or literally to fit your narrative, as is done by every sect of Islam.
All in all, while we do disagree theologically, you do seem much more respectful than the other Non Ahmadi Muslims I've had discussions with and for that I thank you. JazakAllah and Wassalam.
unlike christianity and sunnism, the belief that Jesus is alive on the side of God is not a tenet of Islam 🙂. We however believe the same about every prophet, that they all passed away like the Quran.
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* It doesn’t matter what your beliefs are; I’m speaking from a Muslim perspective. If you prove that Isa (a.s.) is dead, we still aren’t obliged to believe in MGA due to these possibilities:
- If it’s a miracle, I don’t need to know how it happens; I’ll just take the messenger’s word for it.
- We are justified in rejecting reports that contradict the Quran, just as you reject the hadith that says Isa will fight until only Islam remains.
- If prophets don't misunderstand wahi, that would make MGA a false prophet for misinterpreting his wahi and prophecies.
- And what about the possibility that Isa is a metaphor for a group of pious people?
* Yes, you can say the same about us. We agree, then-you don’t take every prophecy as a metaphor, only the parts that can’t be applied to MGA, which is almost everything.
* The hadith doesn’t mention multiple pigs or crosses. It says *يقتل الخنزير* (singular). If Isa (a.s.) kills one pig and breaks one cross, the prophecy is fulfilled. When he does that, Christians will follow him, stop eating pig, and abandon the Trinity.
* MGA is a new prophet-there’s no arguing that. You can phrase it however you like, but it doesn’t change the fact.
By the way, MGA admitted he brought a sharia.
And let’s not forget, MGA claimed he was the second coming of Prophet Muhammad and that his second coming was even better than the first.
If you’re on FB or Twitter, we can take the discussion there.
All of this is folklore! No evidence is being provided for all his stories. How crazy is this. So many holes in this fabrication!
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Amazing video, clearing up all those baseless allegation
A message to Mr. Declan Henry, I am a young Ahmadi Muslim who grew up in a rural, predominantly Caucasian community in North America. I am proud to say that despite the society around me, I am firm and staunch member of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, as it is the only Muslim group in the world that practices (and preaches) the exact same teachings as the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw).
Ahmadiyya zindabad! Inni ma’aka ya Masroor!
Good topic, addressing the rumors of internet !
According to the PakistanCensus 2017, Ahmadiyya Population in Pakistan is 207688. We Ahmadies should be truthful about our Population. I agree with Declan Henry that ahmdies are no where near 12 million (1 crore 20 Laakh). Ahmadiyya Administration should publish Realistic figure based on own census and clear this issue.
The debate with Adnan rashid have strengthened my faith as an ahmadi
السلام وعلیکم اگر اردو میں بھی ترجمہ ہو جائے تو میرے جیسے کئی استفادہ کر سکتے ہیں
Fajr can be made on your way to work in your transport ALLAH Almighty doesn't make it difficult for us 🤩ALLAH Almighty knows exactly what is in your Heart 😍we must get rid of all Evil Habits and Arrogance 🙄 we must control what is between our lips and what is between our LEGS also🙄 then ALLAH Almighty will be pleased with us 😍
100% a cult.
ISLAM AHMADIYYA IS TRUE ISLAM ALHAMDOLILLAH !!!
The only reason you need to believe that this is the very same JAMAH Community that was PROMISED to come by Muhammad Rasool’Allah saw himself and he described what they’ll look like and how they’ll be, which is explained in Surah Verse Jumah of holy Quran and Hadith elaborating this Verse of holy Quran by Muhammad Rasool’Allah saw himself.
Alhamdolillah proud to be AHMADI MUSLIM !
what is this chanda compulsory payment they demand? Where in the Quran, Hadith or works of Fiqh does it mention this? Sounds like cultish behaviour to me
Declan needs to use his rationality more 😂Does he not get the fact that atheists and non religious believers think religion as a whole, is a cult, would he start crying about that too??? The other sunni/shia sects have death for people who leave (death for apostates) religion, thats the most cult like 😂😂
Who from here have visited Qadian ?
Reform islam....therein lies the problem. 1000s of years of islamic scholarship, but still instead of analysing existing texts and chains of narrations, a need to reform islam in India was a British project. Reform really means undo, it means destroying.
جزاك الله خيرا
تاجدار ختم نبوت زندہ باد زندہ باد زندہ باد زندہ باد ❤️❤️