Roland Rubix 24 // WATCH THIS Before You Buy! // An honest review
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- In this video I review the Roland Rubix 24 USB Audio Interface. You get a quick overview over the features and the pros and cons. You learn what is great about the Roland unit, but I'm also giving an honest review and talk about what some of the problems are. I've had this interface for a few years and feel after this time I can give an educated point of view.
THis card Rubix 44, works really well for studio recording. No problems for at all using most of my DAW etc. I fully recommend it.
Me salvaste, ya iba a comprarla, gracias por ponernos al tanto de que no funciona correctamente, bendiciones amigo
Good review pointing out certain issues, after watching your review and reading many of the comments I honestly think many of the problems stem from using this interface with a PC, windows and drivers, I have an EDIROL/Roland UA25 interface that I run on a 2012 MacBook (so quite old now) I have never had any problems in any way even using the usb to power the interface as well directly from the MacBook, complete clear audio signal (No Hum) and never have to reboot.
I’m sure many will disagree with me which is totally fine and their right but I’ve always used a Mac for sound recording and production for at least 20yrs and have never had any issues with interface problems, I have friends who use a PC and windows for years they’ve always experienced so many issues and usually driver issues. PC are great for graphics, Macs are far superior for audio, sound recording and production. Once you’ve used a Mac you’ll never go back!!! You never have to download or update drivers on a Mac as well, so much less hassle.
GREAT and honest review...thanks!!
Welcome and thanks for your comment
Thank you for the honest review. I have switched from a Focusrite 4i4 to a Rubix 44 because of driver problems - more specifically Windows problems. The Focusrite was working perfectly for a few months, but after various Windows updates the Focusrite as a Windows sound device stopped working intermittently. The Rubix is much more stable in that regard. I think using a dedicated DC power instead of USB power also contributes to fewer issues.
As troubleshooting the Focusrite, I have tried using a dedicated USB header hub from the motherboard (use USBTreeView app) for the interface, with mixed results. On a MacBook both the Focusrite and Rubix performed perfectly. I agree that the resultant sample sizes are strange.
Thats really interesting to read. Thanks for your response. What should be avoided imho is to use passive USB hubs. But with active hubs or directly off the device (what I did) I would expect any interface to work just fine. To be fair, I didn't test the Rubix with dedicated power source, it didn't even cross my mind. If it works good with that, that's great. However in my opinion that need for a dedicated power source would still be a big minus for the Rubix.
Anyways - really glad that you found your working solution. In the end we all just need gear to get our creative workflow up.
This literally just happened to me a few days ago with my M-audio
Yeah right! Thanks a lot. I was going to buy it. Now that I ve seen your comments I ll buy an other one.
it does work perfectly in Linux, which was my deciding factor. on the go, I use a sound devices mixpre
Ahh, Linux ... Good to hear that it works for you!
Yes, It works on linux.
Thanks for your insight .
You are welcome!
Thanks for the very thorough review. Like others I wonder if the driver instability has a powering aspect to it. I use the Roland UA25EX and while that has occasional driver issues it is generally OK. For my application the built in compressor limiter is a very attractive feature as it allows use close to the digital peak level without risk of clipping.
I may well try a Rubix 24 and see how I get on with it (fixed PC rarely unplugged) but your central point that when you buy hardware it is as much the driver as the equipment that determines how it works is very true.
Once again, an excellent review.
Hey there, thank you! If you get along nicely with the Rubix I would be happy for you! I was not meaning to trash-talk the Rubix with this video. For me it "has to" work as advertised or as designed, that includes power via USB. And I fully agree, the driver is also a critical part of the whole thing. But I'm happy for anyone who enjoys this interface.
Thanks !❤️
Good review 👍🏽
OK. On the Rubix 22 input 1 is for instruments and input 2 is for microphones. But in the case of the Rubix 44, is input 3 also for instruments and input 4 also for microphones? I would greatly appreciate your response. Greetings.
I'ma bit late to the party, but here my 5 cents:
1) Balanced outputs (3:20) - this card uses resistive balanced audio instead of symmetrical balanced, which means (as far as i can tell) that differential receiver on mixer/whatever you plug this does not work - this may be(but not exclusively) reason you're getting hum/noise.
2) USB B problems (5:00) - the plug itself, I believe, is not a problem at all, cuz plug-n-play/reboot-to-make-work-again - it's all driver/mode(exclusive/shared) issues.
Anyway, thx for the review. Looking into buying this dingus box myself.
HAVE YOU INSTALLED THE DRIVERS FROM ROLAND WHICH HAVE BEEN UPDATED LATELY MY 44 HAS BEEN GREAT MOSTLY
i have this unit for about a year now, after a long break trying to connect it again, i use it for guitar sim, but always get alot of buff. I got no buzz when i use the amp, so no idea why i get it here. Very frustrating.
Thank you!
I am having problems getting the interface to pick up my microphone , were you able to solve this ?
can you do a comparison between this and the quad capture?
Pertinent accurate and informative review....!
Thank you
Hi, is it possible to connect it on an akai force? Will it be recognised by the akai force ?
Which is the model that supports two microphones?
No problem with my Mac. Good card
Hello, what's up?
My friend, I'd like to thank you for your video.
I was thinking of upgrading my M-AUDIO (old) to a newer one. And I was just looking for this Roland interface, the RUBIX 24.
I have to restart the PC when the interface presents "the" problem.
Thanks for the video.
In my case with only 8 gb ram in my laptop the sound glitches when there are too many lines and effect. No problem with another audio interface. So is rrcomsnd only if you have a good computer
I tend to run into USB B interface problems on PC but never have issues on my Mac. Roland specs indicate the device is class compliant.
Great to hear that you have less problems on Mac. And yes, usually Roland does quality stuff.
I have to use the 5v input power instead of the USB power in order to have no hum. But other than that, everything works perfect.
Have you tried it with an ipad? I was looking at this for my ipad.
Oh man, I came across this video only after the Rubix 24 had arrived from Germany
Hope everything works for you!
My Roland tricapture also has this disconnection issue, but i dont need to reboot, Just Disable all Audi I/O except Roland
Thanks for the video. What alternative would you recommend for similar money? I’m looking for a small mixer like this to record voice over audio, and also acoustic guitar. I have an AKG microphone already.
I already saw your comment on my other video, but for anyone reading this: my recommendation is the Focusrite Scarlett lineup: ua-cam.com/video/GBG1iYS3oTk/v-deo.html
DE Presonus studio 24C -minimum drop outs - ith latency 64 / 128 , lower drops than the focusrites with software voicemeeter.
@@erwinvanes911 is it good? I'm coming from a steinberg ur 22, tired of drop outs and driver issues. I'm trying the 24 c and it seems good but does it has any problems?
@@bootlegbay3771 got the best results with the presonus studio24c for the moment . Minimal or no dropouts.
Presonus 68c interface! It has comparable quality ,rather transparent low distortion near zero latency, mic preamps and also comes with Studio One DAW software for seamless plug and play compatibility on mac and pc. The program is awesome, simple, powerful, inexpensive & also the interface prices are very competitive as well !
I think the L/MAX preamps in the presonus units are a bit better than rolands onyx mic pres and they are much more stable and reliable than
focusrite mic pres . Focusrite uses mic pres modeled after more high end costing mic pres used for decades in very expensive mixing consoles in UK. Neve is one of them . Neve mixing consoles have been used on beatles albums, reason they are upwards of $300k +
So how good is a mic pre in a $2-300.00 interface really going to be , when its modeled after one that is used in a 1/2 million dollar console ? More of a gimmick than anything with their new “AIR” button on the front inputs ! “ ok lets just add some noisy open room air to the signal when the air button is engaged to make it appear and sound like you are getting more headroom on the input ! No thanks ! If you really want the best you can get for a true professional home studio… I have tested (UA Universal Audio - Apollo) , Apogee, Presonus - Quantum, as well as some other high end companies interfaces…..
THE INTERFACE EQUIPPED WITH THE BEST PROVEN CONVERSION AND PREAMP QUALITY AS WELL AS OPTIMAL CONNECTIVITY IN THE PRICE RANGE of the (“TRUE PROFESSIONAL HOME STUDIO”) IS THE ARTURIA AUDIOFUSE STUDIO 18in/20out. Hands Down this has the sheer sonic quality of a million dollar console…
PERIOD ! Plus aptX Bluetooth Zero Latency Audio Streaming inputs incorporated in the unit ! All I can say is , I will never ever buy anything else !
I have exactly what I need ! Runs with every DAW On the market with no special driver needed for mac or pc and also can be used with no DAW as a sound unit with its own dedicated control software app. It also uploads the software itself and sets itself up to the computer it is connected to all you do is choose inputs and outputs in preferences and your off and running !
Hope this helpes !
Is this half rack size?
Any single interface / mixer which supports iPad, mac & pc for Skype /zoom live music classes ? Any recommendations?
May depend on your iPad (which connection it has), but the Focusrite Scarlett Gen3 series may work for you. I use one of those myself and I am very happy with it. But do a little research if it works with your specific iPad and works with skype (Skype should work though I think)
problem with Roland, same with my FA-06 Keyboard with built-in Audio Interface keyboard.. same usb B to A(pc) on any DAW. I have to restart my pc (Windows10) I don't know the reason why until now. I have the latest driver and new cable. It disconnects randomly .
I'm sorry to hear you are having similar problems!
Did you ever settle on another product? I run Mac m1 and also am looking to have more than 2LR outputs for running backing tracks.
I use the focusrite Scarlett 3rd gen now
Hello,
Can you take a photo or a short video from inside electronic board of this interface?
Thanx!
sorry, I don't have this interface anymore
@@michaelseebass All right.
144 is a multiple of both 16 and 24, so maybe this is set with 16 and 24-bit audio in mind?
Nice observation
Hi, friend. Recommend a good analogue of rubix 24 with similar functionality, which will be many times more stable. and there will be no problems with the drivers
I personally now use the Focusrite Scarlett.
which interface works on new Mac Bis Sur 11 OS ?
I don't have Mac so I can't really answer that.
I would guess the Focusrite Scarlett should work fine, but better verify that.
So what number mean nothing?
Bin mit dem Focusrite bisher immer gut gefahren.
Hab bisher auch gute Erfahrungen damit. Hat schon seine Gründe dass die Teile so beliebt sind... ;)
honest review! they recommend me this one because mine is not Big Sur compatible anymore, which interface do you recommend?
I use the Focusrite Scarlett 3rd Gen 2i2. From quick googling that seems to also work with Big Sur, but better verify that information yourself.
While I am a "coin channel" I provide tech help to all those with me in our UA-cam coin community.
It's important to me to find the best in DSP equipped interfaces that provide HPF, Compression,Gating,Expanding, EQ, DeEss, Limiting and/or other features at a reasonable budget.
I currently have a Presonus Revelator io24 which is currently delivering solid preformance.
If this interface is interesting to you be sure to check out the whole Presonus Revelatore line up.
Thanks, I now already have the Focusrite Scarlett.
Ssl2 o rubix44?
puta madre me la compre antes de ver el video, esperemos a ver que tal me funciona.
Jajaja yo también... Ya la probaste?
¡Yo también!
Alguien la probó en mesa de mezclas? para ver si había ruido? Con ella enchufada a corriente o con el switch de ground activado
Not highly recomended, any type of interface you recomended please?
I can recommed the Focusrite Scarlett ua-cam.com/video/GBG1iYS3oTk/v-deo.html
Can I play it on DT 770 250ohm headphones??
I'm not sure about that. On Focusrite Website I found a statement that says for anything above 250, an interface with separate power supply is recommended. I guess you could try it and return it if it doesnt work.
4:42 , Michael, I have the same problem with a Behringer interface, it't never turn on with my Mac, I have to unplug the usb connection and reboot it...can you recommend an interface without that problem..?
I would generally not recommend Behringer (except for the X32 product series), Behringer tends to be really low quality. For me the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 3rd Gen works really well now. I'm on Windows though. But as far as I know this also works good on Mac
Hi, can you output 4 channel surround sound?
The interface does have 4 outputs that are adressable on an individual basis in a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation). I'm not sure about surround sound though so I can't really answer that.
@@michaelseebass Thanks for the answer, I'm home user and some times I watch movies in my pc and I was wandering if I can play surround.
If the unit is introducing hum, does the nain plug in power cord have a 3 prong plug or just a 2 prong plug with a wall wart ? Because if the interface doesnt have a 3 prong plug then you must connect the ground screw/connection on the rear of the unit to the ground screw connection on the rear of the mixing console that it is slaving to ! Usually when an interface has the option of 5v powered (usb) connection as well as 9v all the way up to sometimes as much as 24v powercord connection as well , therefore my point being…. If you are powering the unit using a standard usb-a . usb-b , or even some usb-c cords , typically you won’t have a hum issue unless you have power cords running parallel with or even somewhat crossing unshielded audio cords , uncommonly even shielded cords. But when you have a unit that has the ability to be powered by a much higher voltage source ie: 110/120v 50/60 hz plug that is really the only time that you could run into an issue with hum mainly on the outputs if they are unshielded from each other whether they are
TRS-tip,ring,sleeve/balanced
…..or…..
TS-tip, sleeve/unbalanced
TRS has a ground while TS does not.
As sad asbit is to say….. if sny of the ideal remedies I mentioned don’t help out, unfortunately it is probably the generic shielding being manufactured these days on the outputs from one another and or the inputs.
BTW
true 48v phantom power can not & will not be achieved using usb bus to power the interface. Therefore if you want true 48v phantom power headroom db levels with minimal distortion on the channels I recommend utilizing the 110/120 power whenever available. Experiment between the 2 & LMK what you found and or figured out !
Hope I could help !
I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM !!!
Hi Hi, just want to check that in more details on the hum and buzz, is your DI is plug in on the output of the the Rubix or Input of this Audio Interface?
In combination with Shure SM7B, do you need Cloudlifter?
Hey there, I don't own that Mic so I can't test this.
According to the Roland product page the XLR inputs have the following specs: "INPUT (1L, 2R) connectors (XLR type): -60-- -12 dBu" >>> -60 dBu is exactly what you need for an SM7B. But - as you can see - for that level the input of the Rubix needs to be turned up to the absolute max. You need to check for yourself if the noise floor of the Rubix at that input level is still quiet enough for your purposes.
@@sauermusicDE -60 dBu is absolute lowest.
@@Vladdypoot Seems like you have experience with this topic. Okay...so I guess a cloudlifter is still recommended. That's what I thought. How much db of pre-amplification does the SM7B need in an everyday standard scenario (with normal distance from the mic...like when doing a podcast or whatever)? Around 70? Or maybe even more than 70?
это всё понятно, а шапку ты зачем дома надел?
You know that this is a windows setup problem, right???
that you must choose each usb ports to make sure it will not be turned off from time to time.
Good idea, but no, thats not the case. My USB ports where setup with continuous power and i had this issue on 2 different computers. On the other hand no issues with focusrite interfaces
Thanks for sharing the experience.
I like the 24 cause it has a built-in compressor. Not many have that.
Is the driver issue still there or has Roland updated them ?
yeah, the compressor might be usefull... i like to compress in my DAW anyways but I see why you might want the compressor ...
I don't know the latest state of the driver, I have sold the Roland. But you should be able to check when the latest Version was released on Rolands website. I doubt though that they completley rewrote the driver...
Wie schließe ich es an dem Macbook an?
Ich habe aktuell keinen Mac, da müsstest du mal googeln. Würde aber vermuten über ein Adapterkabel auf den USB-B Anschluss oder ein Dongle...
@@michaelseebass Danke lieber Michael für deinen Tipp und deine schnelle Antwort .schönen Tag wünsch ich dir
Hi, thanks for your video... I was really close to buy the Rubix24... but after watching your video I have got a big doubt... I would use it just to record my home digital piano performances using any opernsource software compatible with my Win10 laptop(like Audacity) or my iPad (like GarageBand)..... I wonder if the USB issue that you have got is just an unlucky case or a persistent issue of this device (that looks buit very good). I didn't really get the bufferin issue as I never have an Audio Interface, what shuold another model of Audio Interface allow you to set in the buffering section? Unfortunately there are not many video reviews about this device (but a lots of the little brother Rubix22)... but the average feedbacks are between 4 and 4,5 stars...so the maggiority of the users are happy.. I am very confused... Do you definitley don't reccomend this device? What would you reccomend as competitors of this product? Thanks
Hey there. I understand your concerns.
Regarding the USB connection: yes this could be just an issue with my particular unit. It could... But since the driver's configuration panel is so weird too, I suspect these issues might also be coming from the driver.
Regarding buffering it depends: if all you want to do is record and not (!) have direct digital monitoring (meaning instantly hearing back the audio from your software for monitoring or other reasons) you might be fine. But for monitoring (and general performance) we should be able to set the buffer size in the driver.
My recommendation: The Focusrite Scarlett. It is comparable in price, very stable and reliable, very clear and good sound and it is very wide spread (meaning alot of folks seem to enjoy it). Here is my first look at it: ua-cam.com/video/GBG1iYS3oTk/v-deo.html
There might be a follow up video soon, so far I really like it.
I hope all of this helps you in making your decision.
@@michaelseebass Thanks for your comment! I watched your first look to the 2i2! nice! How is it going? Any drivers issue? I will problably buy it to record in stereo my digital piano... unfortunaly it doesn't have the knob monitor controller that the Rubix24 has...
@@mega-driver I don't regret it. It works really good, I'm planning to do a follow up video. You are right, there is no volume knob for direct monitoring on the Scarlett, you can only switch between 3 modes: direct monitoring off, on (mono) and on (stereo). Volume controll for playback would need to be done in your DAW software.
@@michaelseebass I am glad to hear that you are enjoing your new device. You know, I will problably get the 2i2 3th Gen for my digital piano recording and I would like to ask you a clarification that you problably have already tested: Assuming to do a stereo recording (connecting the keyborad to the both two line of the interface with a cable < 3.5mm jack stereo to a > 2x 6.5mm mono) and set the Direct Monitor of your audio interface in stereo, will you hear from your headphones a stereo input during your recording? And will you hear from your headphones the DAW playback of your recording in stereo? I am sking that, because with the previous gen you could just hear a mono DAW playback signal of your recordind and you is not handy that... thanks
@@mega-driver Yes you can hear the inputs in stereo in direct monitoring (you can toogle between Off/Mono/Stereo via a button on the front). And you also hear the DAW playback in stereo
6:52 These numbers mean latency . 1 Short (low)... 7 Long (high)
Oops!
Built like a tank is such a German saying lol (I'm assuming you are a German speaker)
i have NO PROBLEM with this sound card !!
That's good to know! Of course I can only speak from my own experience...
@@michaelseebass yeah but the title is clickbait, and yes you are just making content too .. luckily the review is quite an honest one ;) .. maybe before you make this video you might want to swap the unit (warranty)
@@gurumajuindonesia In what way is this clickbait? The thumbnail and title say that I have an issue with this and that its an honest review that you should watch before you buy it. Thats exactly the content of this video.
Typical Roland . So close then screws up on small but critical issues. Then they repackage it and try to sell it again.
So you got a power supply with it but never used it but complain this doesn't work and that doesn't work etc. Please do a honest review again with power supply connected. Many switch to Roland from Focusrite and you do not have one but recommend it. Strange. Are you paid to do this video? Regards.
I think there are some missunderstandings or false assumptions here:
- There is no power supply included.
- The device can be be powered via USB, there is a hardware switch for that. So I can expect that to work.
- I sold the Roland.
- Yes, I do own the Focusrite.
- No I'm not paid.
And as far as I know, many switch from other brands to Focusrite. I have heard nothing but good from friends using various Focusrite interfaces.
Bumping this thread, the manual states that only the 22 model works off of usb power, and the 24 and 44 require the usb power cable for the full functionality.
@@eisas1306 Can you point me to where in the manual that is? I dont find any info like this.
The 44 has a dedicated DC plug. The 22 and also 24 are supposed to work USB port powered.
@@michaelseebass
The Rubix22 and Rubix24 are 'supposed to work' over USB bus power, you stated...
They can, but it depends on the pc/laptop/iMac/Macbook/iPad/iPhone/Whatever's USB connection if this delivers enough power over usb. This power may perhaps vary per device, I guess.
There must be a good reason why there's a second (micro)usb socket on the backside, meant for powering only. A standard powerbank can deliver enough power, and the USB B bus is then purely for digital signal.
For instance, connected to an iPad (over e.g. Apple's Camera USB3.0 to Lightning adapter) the Scarletts draw too much power: the iPad displays a notification about this issue when connected.
You then will have to power the Scarlett via a secondary powersource, and simultaneously maintain a digital connection. You'll need a Powered USB hub to accomplish this.. meaning you'll probably need a wall socket for this. ou can't use the Scarletts with an iPad/iPhone while being mobile (working battery powered), or outdoors.
Besides these Rubix models, I know that similar Steinberg interfaces also have a second (micro)USB socket for this purpose.
Now, I won't say your issues weren't real. But I don't see the internet filled with bad reviews either, most personal reviews seem to show satisfied users. There are hardly interface models that have zero negative personal reviews or any issues. I find it very difficult to judge this...
@@michaelseebassi have an old roland quad capture and a focusrite 2i4 2nd generation and i have to tell with full honesty that roland comes second to noone. Focusrite is much worse in the aspect of sound quality. Generally i am really surprised with all these issuew that people refer. I had both cards always just plug and play and never...NEVER had any disconnect issues with any of them.
Cheers for the video, but I hope your other videos don't have you clearing saliva every 5 seconds. I felt like you were licking my ear throughout the video.
the one thing I want to know is this.... are the outputs accessible with ableton.... OR are they simply THROUGH outputs that are sourced by the interface's inputs?
All four outputs can be accessed through ableton or your DAW, either individually or as stereo pairs 1/2 and 3/4. Hope this helps