Should I Clip My Birds Wings? || An Avian Vet and 9 Youtubers Discuss Wing Clipping
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2021
- 1 Avian Vet. 9 UA-camrs. The Big Question. Should YOU clip your birds wings?
This video is filled with personal experiences, parrots, facts about wing clipping, parrot training and a goal. The goal being to educate individuals about what is still possibly one of the most debated subjects within the parrot community. I hope you all watch this video with an open mind and listen to what each influencer and the vet have to say. Wing clipping isn't a massive issue in the UK, however it is in other countries and I find myself shocked at just how common it is. This is where inspiration for this video came from.
And please remember if you are going to comment, we are here to educate, not hate. Some people genuinely do not understand the damage caused by this simple act.
I encourage all of you to click the link below to the most educational website on wing clipping. It will have everything you need to know. And if you still have questions you are more than welcome to give any of the influencers a message.
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Thank you to allow of the people who got involved in this video. We have all been, in some way, affected by wing clipping. You guys are amazing. I'm hoping your experiences can help educate enough people to turn the tables.
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Hello, I am from Taiwan. I have a parrot. When I was just adopt him, I clip his wings, because in Taiwan, most of the people will teach you this to avoid the bird fly away. Later on, I saw a lot of video about the recall traning, I realized that the recall training is the most correct. Your video is really good, from all angles to analyze, to prove how inportant that let they can fly. I hope that Taiwanese birds lover can see your videos, which may allow more parrots to benefit, chould you please let me make your video translate Chinese subtitles to share more people? Let more people have a more correct way to treat their parrots.
Thank you so much for asking me to take part - I LOVE how it all came together! You did an amazing job, and I hope that this video helps lots of bird owners make an informed choice on whether to clip or not! 🦜💙
Your birds are stunning! I sent a few pictures to my friend, who owns cockatiels, and we were both looking at how pretty they are😂
@@ris8065 aw thank you so much! They are happy little babies 😊
Thank you so so much for being a part of it! I really appreciate it!! 🥰
BirdNerdSophiei see you in the comments of evert video I watch also I love you videos
@@Clover_knows_pets I watch a lot of UA-cam! 😂 Thanks for watching my videos!
Nice one, I think it came out really well! I know Sophie was really happy to be in this video as it's something we both feel passionately about!
Thank you so much! Having her in it is amazing! ❤️
The most exciting moment of my life was when my newest rescue, who came to me clipped, lost his first two clipped flight feathers. Lucca, this bird, loves flying around in circles in his room despite his clipped feathers, and I hope once his wings grow in he’ll be a little more confident.
Same, I rescued my bird already clipped , she kept falling down, now she's sooooo into me she would now fly to me cuz her wings are grown
I couldn't imagine clipping my birds wings 😩 why get a flighted animal that you don't want to fly!! Amazing video 😀
I don’t understand either! There are a lot of false statements out there that can be misleading for new owners
Thank you! ❤️
Very well made. Well done
Thank you for being in it!! ❤️
Hii
this video is amazing. i hope more people see this and understand that birds were MADE to fly! i’ve had my lovebird since she was 4 weeks old and she has never been clipped. she lives a wonderful life and flys around my room all day. seeing her happy makes me happy.
Thank you!! That’s amazing that you’re lovebird has such an awesome life!
Good job !!! I wish all parrot owners saw this great video. BIRDS ARE MEANT TO FLY !
Thank you!!
I'm so pleased I seen this video and the website that linked me to it. The information being so important and extremely helpful. I have not clipped my birds wings and after watching and reading such information I never will. Thankyou for this video 😊
Excellent video and advice. All my birds are fully flighted.
Thank you! And that’s great to hear!
nice video! really enjoyed watching all those other people and their stories to!
I’m glad you enjoyed it!! 😊
It's a sign of intelligence and maturity to change one's mind in the face of new information or upon gaining a better understanding.
I'm sure your birds are grateful for it, too.
All birds are different, i've had small birds that I did not clip and they were fine eg; Conures and Cockateils but when I got my Galah I did clip and he has been great he's nearly 4 and he is so friendly and loves his little cuddles and snuggles he loves to walk around pull the carpet out climbing on my towel sitting on me and and sitting on his cage he climbs all over me and he's cage and LOVES it. I 'm not saying that I'm going to have him clipped all he's life but for now he is really happy but he's at a stage where I clip a couple of feathers as they grow slowly.
I feel so bad for my budgie, I got him and of course he was clipped. He wants to fly so bad but he just crashes back onto the ground. One of my favorite thing about budgies is that they fly so well. I love having little birds fly around, but watching them crash into the ground breaks my heart.
This is an amazing video!! Convinced me to never clip my new lovebirds wings! Thank you so much
I've been slowly educating myself on all things avian since I'm thinking of getting a cockatiel. I haven't come across a video that explained the implications of clipping quite as wonderfully as this video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and for advocating for these beautiful beings! 🐦
Amazing video, Thank you. I always see people say I clip because I have ceiling fans, or my kids leave the doors open bla bla. If your house isn't suitable for a bird then don't get one! I have had Alexandrine parrots for years and I could never imagine purposely disabling them to suit me, that's just barbaric! They love to fly around the house freely.
Every line in my head I was just thinking ‘yes, yes YES’
tl;dr "Whould i clip my birds wings?"
hell no.
"but but... i'm lazy and selfish and i want my pet to be easier!"
...why are you getting a BIRD if you want an "easy" pet? good lord, even a dog needs to be taken for walks, fed and watered regularly, has to go out to relieve itself, etc.
i won't say this video changed my mind about clipping, because i already felt that it was a terrible idea. it DID make my opinion about how terrible it is even stronger though.
@@tzxazrael no I definitely agree with everything you’re saying! Some people don’t understand a bird needs flight to literally remain healthy. I’m hoping this video will help push people in the correct direction ❤️
@@SoaringWingsFlock same! also lmao that Birdtricks just released a video about not clipping your birds at the same time xD
@@tzxazrael I didn’t even realise 😂😂
@@SoaringWingsFlock lol probably neither did they xD
Fantastic video! Enjoyed watching it 💜 pro flight!!!!
Thank you!!
Thanks for this video, I always had a bad gut feeling when I thought of clipped birds but I never really knew why.. I am getting a tailsies tomorrow and I would never have clipped her but my husband was leaning towards it and we watched this together and I got to have that "I told you so"!!!!!!!!!!!
Wing clipping is like clipping your toes off 😓
I got 2 parakeets and they had their wings clipped and it’s been 6 months and all their feathers haven’t even grown back, I still see molted feathers that are cut ever once and a while still, they would not bond or go near me until they could partially fly. One of my birds clips where so bad that she couldn’t even fly from the floor to the bottom of their cage. She was so scared that she wouldn’t let me touch her and it was scary for me too. It usually came down to me lifting her up when she was trapped in a corner. Luckily she eventually learned that I wasn’t trying to hurt her and her feathers grew back 🙂
What an incredible video!!! You did such a good job on this, wow! This is such an important message for all bird owners 💜💜
Awesome job! Absolutely loved watching this!
Thank you!!
This is such a uniquely done clever video on this topic, with tons of brilliant info some of which I hadn’t heard before👍🏽🥰 p.s I never would clip my birds wings, flying is what makes them so wonderfully unique
It's very sad to see people clip the birds wings. These poor birds live a long time (60+ years). They should be able to fly and be outdoors. Watching these birds in peoples' homes seems so depressing. I can't imagine how the poor birds feel.
Such a wonderful video! Well done 👏👏👏
Thank you!! ❤️
Love this video. 🥰
LOVE this video!!! Fun to be apart of something with such a beautiful message.
I didn't know you had a UA-cam, but I do now. XD
@@ParrotVolancy ❤️
Thank you for being part of this!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Great video! ❤️
Wohooo! Awesome video! Really enjoyed watching it!
Thank you for being a part of it!!
Nicely done, and well-explained 👍👍
Thank you!!
Great vid! I never clip my birds' wings
Thank you! And that’s great!
Thank you for this video! Flying is their natural instinct! It disgusts me clipping birds wings.
Great video, thanks for the informative points. Any plans for a video with how to tame pet parrots and say if they were not tamed while being a baby and afraid of hands?
Excellent video!!!
Thank you!!
awesome video!! clipping birds wing should not be a thing, it's 2021! I hope it won't be very long before wing clipping doesn't exist! I used to clip my first ever budgie's wings because the store I got her from told me it would be easier to tame her that way. They also sold her to me in the tiniest cage in existence, along with a bag of seed. I was so young then and had absolutely no idea how to care for a parrot, but everyone I knew that had birds kept them in small cages with clipped wings on a seed diet and I thought this was normal and it was proper care, I had no idea that budgie could even eat vegetables! It's so sad that proper parrot care and correct information is so rare and there's so many birds out there suffering because their owners can't bother to do a little bit of research before buying a pet, or are too stubborn to listen to kind advice in the bird's best interest.
My first budgie lived the rest of her life in a flight cage with her mate. I stopped clipping her and she learned to fly again, she had plenty of natural and enriching bird toys and I was in the process of converting her onto chop when she died in October :(
My other two budgies have never been clipped and are so happy, I let them out to fly around every day and I'm proud to say I will never clip a parrots wings ever again!! I do my best to kindly inform people about the damage wing clipping does but most people won't listen :( I'm so glad you made this video!
That's the problem, sadly. Certain methods are promoted as normal, so no one knows any better! It's wonderful you were able to learn more. It's insane how much there is to learn about birds. It is very hard to get through to people about clipping because it's human nature to resist change. The best we can do is give them the information and ask them to think about it. >__
The issue is that we are all made to believe that clipping is okay. It’s normality. When we got our first bird we were told to clip him by everyone in groups! Logic sort of goes out the window because the vast majority of people said to clip. Luckily I’ve noticed a change in how many people are now saying to not clip! Thank you so much for sharing your story 🥰
I watch literally every one of those UA-camrs videos so ironic
Just wanna say first, great video! I think all of us really appreciate the information and all of the stories told by the amazing people in this video.
Here’s my story:
I adopted my first bird March 2020. He was a fully flighted green cheek called Arlo. I loved him so much and he really made me love birds. He was always slow and tired but as a new bird owner I thought he was just not getting enough sleep or was just young. A month into having him I woke up to find him in a bad condition at the bottom of his cage, practically unresponsive and very very sleepy. We took him to the vet who concluded he had a neurological disorder and wouldn’t recover. We didn’t take him home that day and it wrecked me.
Afew days after he passed to try and fill the bird shaped whole in my heart I adopted a 6 month of crimson bellied conure who I named Kipling. He came to me clipped by his previous owner and though I didn’t particulay like it I didn’t realise the extent it had affected him.
I love Kipling with all my heart but he can be trouble sometimes. He can be fairly aggressive out of no where and hates most people to the point of attacking them or me when we’re in the same room as anyone else.
His wings where completly cut (straight across, terribly short) which meant he fell straight to the floor when ever he tried to fly.
I was so thrilled when after about 5 months his feathers started to grow back. He had about 3 flight feathers on each side and was doing so well!
He was no longer scared to move or leave me and his aggression got a lot better. He was doing so well at flying and we where doing a lot of training to help him out. He was choosing flight over fight. He was sleeping better, playing better, feeling much more secure and I could tell he was happier.
Unfortunately that all changed about two weeks ago when I noticed he stopped flying. His flight feathers where completly scuffed and messed up to the point where he could no longer fly. I’m seeing the vet soon but the most likely scenario is that he’s started barbering his feathers, not being used to them being so long. His aggression is back up and he has so much more pent up energy. He’s more unhappy and it breaks my heart.
Though I’ve not had him to long I know for sure that he would be a much differant bird if his wings wherent clipped.
I understand the fear a lot of owners have desperatly trying to keep thier birds safe. Loosing Arlo has made me constantly worried and terrified I’ll loose Kip too but I won’t sacrifice his safety or mental/ psychical health for my own sake. As a decent pet owner his needs come before mine when it comes to his happiness.
Back to square one with his flight, I’m desperatly waiting for the day he’ll be able to fly properly with all of his beutiful feathers back.
Please please don’t clip your birds. Kip may always struggle Becuase of his clip and as his owner it kills me. Because of what his previous owners did to him both he and I have to suffer.
It’s not worth it, I promise.
Don’t Clip Your Bird.
Thank you
Thank you for sharing your story.
@@ParrotVolancy dude you’re beating me to responding to all of these 😂😂😂 (please keep going as I am dreadful at this!)
Thank you so so much for sharing your story. Hopefully it’ll inspire others around you!! 🥰
@@SoaringWingsFlock Lmaooo, I can't help myself. XD
@@ParrotVolancy thank you very much for this advice. I’d love to get him a friend it’s just about the right time and convincing my parents (I live with them). Hopefully this comment will convince them more : )
Yasss I love this !!!!!
Thank you!!
It really stresses me out (almost daily) watching English/American Pet Content Creators; be it on UA-cam, Instagram or Tiktok (worst one). Me and my animals are fortunate to live in a more advanced and caring country - pet care wise - (Germany), so things like clipping a birds wings (humans 🙄) or SINGLE HOUSING isn’t even up for debate!!
Thank you so much for making this video so informative, factual and also emotional. This will hopefully over months/years reach many bird owners and change their mind 🦜👍🏻💚
I am not familiar with your channel (I saw you only keep one macaw, why?), but maybe you could also do a video on why you should never single house birds 🤗
also also, what is your view on hand-rearing birds?
Hello and I definitely agree with you there! I wish every country had better pet care standards tbh...
I would actually love to do one, one day. I do personally believe birds should be kept together/in flocks. Our cockatiels love their little flock and are so happy with each other. The reason Corliss, our macaw, is alone right now is because we adopted her from someone. Rushing into getting a second macaw would have caused many problems for us, and for her. Corliss was kept alone and locked in a cage for many years and therefore wasn’t sure how to properly communicate. She didn’t understand her bite strength either. Don’t worry, she will be getting a friend soon. Our aim was always to get her a friend once she was ready. And it will be a bird who hasn’t had a great start to life as well.
In all honesty, I would prefer individuals co-reared. However I don’t know anyone who does in the UK. It’s no secret that parent raised birds are better at being birds. Hand reared individuals are often stuck to their humans which can create issues. I am guilty of owning hand reared birds and even hand rearing 2 myself. One of which we got the opportunity to learn how to hand rear and the second was an emergency case you could say. I, myself, never want to breed though. I don’t want to add to the existing number of birds as so many get given up after a couple of years.
I agree with you. One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of these birds we're adopting/rescuing have indeed been hand-raised and spent their entire lives around humans. For birds like cockatoos, it can be almost impossible and even dangerous to try and get them a companion later on in life unless you have a lot of flexibility with housing, such as with an aviary or two. A lot of birds will accept their own species without much difficulty, but male cockatoos are known to attack their mates even if they have always been around cockatoos (as in the typical "breeder bird" scenario). It's a big issue with breeding cockatoos, the male injuring or even killing the female. Apparently, this is because most of the bigger cockatoos don't function totally normally unless in a flock (including male/male interactions which defuse tension), and they really seem to experience some of the strongest imprinting when raised by people. I have heard stories of it taking years before a cockatoo integrated with other cockatoos, even living amongst a flock of them in a large aviary.
The reason I'm commenting this is because I have a rescue cockatoo, and my usual reflex is for birds to have at least one companion. But, sadly, due to the damage done by humans and the limited resources of the people taking in unwanted birds, it is often impossible. He wants nothing to do with other cockatoos and in fact becomes aggressive around them. Cockatoos also apparently need a lot more space than other birds in order to co-habitate. Our galahs, for example, cannot share a cage or even be loose in the bird room together with the doors closed for any length of time because the male chases the female and stresses her out. This has actually resulted in a stress displacement behaviour from the female where she picks at her shoulder. Obviously we started housing them in separate cages as soon as we realised what was going on, and now they are only out together without a barrier when they have the whole first level of the house to give each other space, but now we're fighting to get this picking behaviour to stop. This hadn't happened with any of our other birds or with my friends' macaws, who co-habitate peacefully in the same amount of space we were keeping our galahs. Interestingly, I have a friend who lives in a small apartment with about seven galahs, and they work it out without any such issues. I guess it's that cockatoo flock element coming into play again, which I don't think many people know about and which I learned by reading some articles from Tony Silva. I just thought I'd weigh in because I am totally in the camp of keeping birds in pairs and flocks, but there are some things people don't know about certain species which can complicate their best intentions.
Parrots are so smart mine will anticipate what I am going to ask him to do next and do it before I ask. Thank you for this video it needs to be said often. If you want a pet that can't fly don't get a bird!
Wow, after this video I will not even think about wing clipping anymore. Best educating video about this topic. 👍🏻
This video was extremely bad, and biased.
you did a great job on this vid! definitely make more... maybe you could do one on caging your bird and how to do it properly?
I may do, but everyone keeps birds differently. So just because I keep my birds in a specific way doesn’t mean others will agree. I’m happy to show how we do it though! Key to owning any animal is to never stop learning about how to improve their life 🥰
@@SoaringWingsFlock That would be great if you could show how you cage your birds.
One thing that I am wondering about is how much time is adequate to get out?
If you curious, this is my schedule
My cockatiel wakes up at 8:00am and then gets 2-3 hours out in the morning (which is when he does most of his flying)
He goes back into his cage from 11:00-3:00 and he usually forages during this time and has a nap. At 3pm he gets 2 hours once I am done with school. At about 5pm I need to do some work so he goes in the cage for another hour and a bit. And then at around 6pm he gets more time out of the cage till about 7ish when he is ready for bed.
Currently studying what I must know about birds before having my own and... I LIKE THIS VIDEO! It helps me to know a little bit more on what to do and not to do with a bird! Ofcourse I'm still trying to learn more about birds but this, by far, answered most of my own doubts and some of what I must do when having a pet bird. Still... I'm hoping that in the future, you'll post a video about a hormonal parrot as it is the only problem that I can't seem to get it out of my head. Perhaps its the biggest problem that really keeps me away from having a bird since I'm not really sure on how to take care or deal with a hormonal bird!
But overall this video really helps! Thank you so much for posting this!
I’m glad this video has helped you!! Funnily enough I was considering filming something about hormones next week as my own guys are going INSANE right now 😂
@@SoaringWingsFlock oh wow! What a coincidence! XD
What species were you thinking about getting?
@@ParrotVolancy been studying a lot about cockatiels, green cheek conures and eclectus parrots, especialy about their diets
@@cynthiadarma3664 I always get more than one (male and female) as I find it actually helps reduce hormonal behavioural issues since they focus those urges on each other. Plus, having more than one is good for psychological reasons (they're highly social animals). So many people who get single GCCs have loads of issues with them viewing humans as mates/mate competition since that's all they can interact with and have no other social outlet, so they start attacking one or more humans in the house. I have no such problems with my six. P.S. Yes, if you get a male and a female you will have to eventually confront nesting behaviour, but I am happy to take that over a single crazy bird any day. With many species, you don't necessarily need opposite sexes. Paws, Claws, and Feathers has all male cockatiels, for example. It's just my preference to go natural.
Since this video is 2 years old, I'm not sure if anyone will respond, but I have a nearly 6 month old pearl cockatiel named Sunny. She was hand raised by her breeder and I bought her at my local owned pet store about a week before she turned 4 months old. Her wings are currently clipped from when I bought her, but she just began her first molt, so I know they'll be growing out soon. Sunny wants to fly. She tries flying in her cage and to me when she's hanging out outside of her cage, but she of course hits the floor. I love Sunny so much and I'm absolutely terrified about her being able to fly because there are 3 dogs and a cat in my house. My chihuahua isn't an issue as I trained her from the time she was 7 weeks old to know what the word 'delicate' means in terms of small animals she can't touch (which at the time were guinea pigs and baby chickens). Introducing her to Sunny was a snap because I showed her Sunny and said, 'Delicate!' and now she'll let Sunny walk on her if she's in the room with us. The other 2 dogs, one being my Pitbull and the other being my parents rescued Manchester terrier, did not have 'delicate' training. With my Pitbull, I had no small animals at the time I got him, so training him to know 'delicate' wasn't on my training list (regrets) and now that he's grown, he's has gone after my full grown chickens twice. I've not been able to train out this behavior myself or with a professional trainer. My parents dog, her breed was designed for killing small animals and she is fast! She has also gone after my chickens twice and one unfortunately died after being attacked via shock. My parents dog has stalked and killed a butterfly! And because her previous owner trained her to jump up for treats, she can jump very high (I'm 5 foot 7 in. and this dog can jump almost to my chin!). My cat is almost 15 years old and not as quick as he once was, so not as big of a concern as the dogs, but still is of course because he is a cat. Sunny's room has a baby gate to keep the other animals out and I shut the door if she's out of her cage and I need to leave the room. If it was just my chihuahua and Sunny, she'd be completely safe to fly around the house, but her life isn't something I'm willing to risk if she decides she doesn't want to listen if I teach her recall training (we all know that sometimes animals just do what they want despite training). I don't know if anyone in the video has other pets like dogs, so what would be the best course of action in my situation?
Hey! I actually have 2 cats and did have a big GSD who had a large prey drive. Whenever the birds were out the other animals were always locked out of the room. We NEVER allowed them to coexist as it was too much risk. Cat and dog saliva can also kill a bird due to the bacteria so we are extremely cautious of this as well.
When I bird learns how to fly confidently they can actually get away from predators. Those that are clipped, if spooked, fall to the floor and become easy prey. We had an incident in our home (entirely our fault) where our birds were in the netted garden. I didn’t close the door properly and one of our cats slipped out instantly went into hunting mode. Our cockatiels were on the ground and he charged them with intent to kill. After all, that is his nature. But thanks to their ability to fly, and fly well, no one was injured. We quickly grabbed our cat and now triple check doors and cats locations. It was a lesson learned for us. Had the birds been clipped they would have died there and then as wouldn’t have been able to get away ☺️
I used to clip my birds wing feathers, when I first got them because I wanted training to be easy for me. I never considered what effect it had on the bird. Thank you for this wonderful and informative video!💚💙
This is the most amazing video I had watched. Thank you for opening my eyes about clipping birds. I have one cockatiel , she’s 3 years old and she had been clipped her entire life, but now I’ll let her wings grow and one one my dreams is to practice free flight with her.
Do you think I would be able to introduce her to free flight in outdoors?
Cockatiels are difficult to free fly just due to their nature. ParrotVolancy on Instagram offers training though if you want to contact her ☺️ worst comes to worst you can still take her outside on a harness! ❤️
@@SoaringWingsFlock thank you !
Thank you for being so open-minded!
I know I'm very late to this party but I think some philosopher said it best I don't know the original quotes but this is the summary
the wisest people are those that are willing to change their opinions to new information
those that think they know everything are the biggest fools of all
I am letting my Quakers flight feathers grow out a bird store butchered. Is it hard to train a bird coming back to me? Recall training I believe it's called?
Lots of love from Motleys_Adventurez! Perfect video and please everyone share this video and make it viral! #NotClip
Let’s stop the clipping of birds!! (Unless obviously required for medical reasons.)
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I'm getting my cockatiel in a few weeks. I told the breeder I do not want him clipped. I was looked at like I'm nuts and warned "there's no guarantee" a few times - asked what that means and was told through an awkward laugh "that it doesn't fly out the door or break its neck on the wall" eek o_o Not that I'm now inclined to clip, but now I'm nervous they'll let my bird die in their care before he can leave with me! I was shocked to realize such a passionate bird lover clips all wings, all the time. It seems very cruel.
How do you train your Cockatiel
Watch BirdTricks yt they train parrots please check them out there sooooo good
This literally what makes a bird special or different
Ask a child what's different about birds they're most likely to say it's their wings and their ability to fly
I am having trouble understanding why would ppl think that cutting the thing that's so special about them will fix them or make them like the person that did that
Conclusion: dont clip
There shouldn't be a debate. It's so obvious you shouldn't clip your bird no matters what reason you have. All reason is just an excuse to clip the bird. Of course people who want to clip their birds will disagree simply because they are so self-centered and thinks that they have their "correct" reason. If you have a dog and you don't want him to run away from you, you cripple their legs ? Don't take the short cuts, it takes time and patience to tame your bird. If you get a bird from very young and you spoon feed them, they will trust you and naturally tame and be very close to you. I have a lovebird I keep since a baby and I spoon feed him every day for more than 2 months and that's a lot of works. But all efforts really paid off. Whenever it came out of the cage it will naturally fly to my shoulder and he is so bonded to me. Clipping the bird doesn't tame your bird, you just preventing it to fly away, that's lying to your ownself. If you don't have time and patience to tame your bird naturally, please don't keep a bird, it's not for you. At least you are not ready.
I was wondering wether I would read the whole comment please do it’s really good
Crying bc my bird is clipped, I got him a couple days ago clipped and I feel so bad I love my bird but idk if he will every fly and I just feel bad
I had a baby cocketiel abuat a jear ago, and Micmickie had clipd wings and 7 months later Micmickie died,
I know clipping might be cruel, but I'm scared my pet bird is going to fly away, and Im against cages. But I really want a pet bird. Does anyone have advice for me
*. Sorry it’s long Ok don’t get a bird unless you will have it flighted it’s not fair for them just do recall training (or even free flight by a professional parrot trainer)it’s your choice if you want to keep a miserable or happy-er bird (or just a different animal) I’d love to know if you do decide to get a bird and how you do it
*BirdTricks yt are really great experienced parrot trainers who make toys, pellets, training courses and free UA-cam videos they rock hope you check them out
I have 2 lovebirds, I’ve read pros and cons of wing clipping .. I see all your points and do not agree with clipping the wings, do you have any advice on how I could stop them flying into my windows and wall?
You can teach controlled flight by training recall ☺️ you can also discourage window collisions by putting stickers on the windows and even putting a perch on the window and allowing your bird to eat it’s favourite snacks there. Birds don’t know instantly that windows are bad and no bird is a good flier from the start, especially one that was clipped. All of that comes with confidence and time ☺️ I can confidently say that none of my older birds ever fly into windows. Our youngest still sometimes has a bump, but it’s very rare ☺️
@@SoaringWingsFlock okay thank you I will give this a try, fingers crossed it works haha
@@zoethomson4155 There are stickers for windows or you just use curtains before you let them out to fly. And I never heard about birds flying against walls? Lol they don’t fly against trees in nature either.
In a word, No. if you won't allow a pet bird to fly, get a dog instead -- and don't break its leg so it can't run.
How long does it take to free flight train?
It depends upon the human handler as well as the bird. It's more about making sure you have a mentor/instructor rather than the amount of time. You can spend five years, but if you don't have the correct information, you could still lose your bird or end up not free-flying.
@@ParrotVolancy tsm really appreciate it😁
We have seven cockatiels and we never clipped their wings (not usual in Germany at all thank God). They fly and we keep the environment safe. The windows we cover up a bit and of course everything electrical is covered up and plants that are toxic we remove before they come out flying. We let the birds out as much as possible. I mean we are already responsible that they don’t live in Australia freely, so at least try to make their home as much natural as possible. Flying is their instinct just like we walk. It’s horrible seeing wing-clipping videos here on UA-cam and it still pisses me off.
For the ones who still want to clip-how about chopping off your fingers? Or toes? Bird is not a toy, respect them the way they are. Or do not even get the bird.
Now I'm mad at my cousin for clipping her Dove.
15:13 corn* elle better get it right next time
sorry i seen too many people crying because their bird escape and never got back. in 45 yrs of owning parrots having lost or injured or them being depressed or behavior issues because my birds were clipped. if bird clipped correctly they glide down.i always clipp
Birds don’t escape because they fly. Birds escape because people leave windows open. Clipped birds that escape get killed as they are an easy snack. Flighted birds have a chance
@@SoaringWingsFlock let us agree to disagree. but have question i adopting a tiel that hatched with one wing shorter then the other wing can it still fly.
unfortunately for some of us that live in Africa its impossible to free flight your bird as the people here would catapult your bird if it flies into their yard and the people here are too uncivilized and 100% you will loose your bird if it flew out of you yard
The saddest part of this video is my UA-cam subscriber count. :U
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Yeah no clipping will NOT prevent your bird from flying. On Insta I read about a girl that lost her 1 year old camelot macaw. He was clipped but took flight on day when he was outside and got scared. He got hit by a train. They found him antagonizing to dead as he broke a wing and got a leg riped off. He had to be put down.
Holy shit. And yet people argue that a "proper clip" will prevent them from flying away, even though I too have experienced this IRL and there are plenty of examples. My brother got a scarlet macaw from the bird store who was, of course, clipped. We had her outside one day and whoop, off she went when she got scared. She flew into the side of the neighbour's house. Fortunately that's the angle she took or she could have gotten lost entirely or been mauled by dogs or who knows what else. She is the same scarlet macaw I show on my website flying with clipped wings.
She did not xlip her right then
listen if you get a BIRD... THEY FLY
Yes, and cats are made to hunt and breed, they are literally evolved to hunt. And dogs are a creature thats evolved to run hundreds of miles a month, form social groups, breed and hunt. I ask, if flight is sacred because it’s in their nature, then we also could consider the innate nature of our dogs and cats.
Your argument is interesting, however dogs DO get walked. A lot of dogs don’t have that restricted from them. And many cats do still roam outdoors to hunt/have hunting behaviour encouraged indoors. So I don’t see your argument as entirely valid due to the fact that the animals you mentioned already get to do this. It’s part of caring for them. Yet, why do so many people believe that taking flight from a flighted animal is okay?
@@SoaringWingsFlock i never said it was ok. But if its not ok, why is ok to suppress other animals instincts? Why is flight sacred but hunting, what a cat is designed for- not? It is generally encouraged that cats are now kept indoors for their safety due to automobiles, predators, poison, cruel children and their effect on wild birds. We spay and neuter them, too. Birds keep their sexual function, unlike cats and dogs. I think its a good thing to think about an animals innate abilities and whats right and whats not- and also compare why its ok for one animal and not another.
@@SoaringWingsFlock walked is not 20, 30 miles of running. Not all dogs are walked either. Many are let out in the yard or just use puppy pads. It’s honestly pretty similar to clipping as it reduces the reach.
@@birdsofvalhalla I never said that was okay either. But this video isn’t about other animals, it’s focused on birds and the primary issue of wing clipping. Unlike other individuals my cats have the opportunity to practice hunting behaviour and to go explore the outdoors in our garden. However I am not an all pet channel, I am a bird channel. Although you raise good points, I am not the individual who can discuss them as I do not even own dogs. However I am certain someone, somewhere would have already done videos on what you are talking about.
@@birdsofvalhalla While I agree with you to an extent, you have to look at the magnitude of the restriction. Clipping prevents birds from accessing normal locomotion. A cat or dog even running across the living room can exercise more than a clipped bird. Your argument is more applicable when comparing pet cats and dogs to parrots who regularly free-fly outdoors. That is, many free-flying parrots will have access to more natural behaviours than dogs kept exclusively in the house. I'm a big believer in cats and dogs getting to go outside and experience freedom, and a combination of training and supervision helps prevent against most of the dangers you mentioned. But clipping is a bodily handicap, not only a restriction of expressing instinct. As for the sexual function thing, I think it's ideal if animals keep their sex organs (assuming the possession of said sex organs will not decrease their quality of life in their captive environment), but in the case of birds, for most of them it would actually be better if they had no sexual function. Many of them are imprinted on humans, kept as single birds, and spend their entire lives frustrated by being mate-bonded to an entity with whom they cannot actually mate.
The fact that wing clipping used to be normal goes to show how stupid or lazy people can be.
Do not clip!
With such a neutral title, the content is kinda biased. Next time, maybe title it something like "don't clip your birds' wings! 9 UA-camrs agree" or something like that. I have nothing against your stance, but it just seems a bit dishonest.
I mean, afterall, these are your videos, and you can do what you want, but from where I am it seems a bit dishonest.
@@dandcc9192 not once in the video do I state what you should do. This video is based on others experiences and facts, nothing dishonest about that. People take from it what they will.
The content wouldn’t be biased if there was one good reason to clip your bird, but there literally isn’t. No one can supply a scientifically proven fact that clipping is in any way beneficial. If someone is going to clip, they will. I’d prefer for people to simple know what they are doing to their animal.
Nicely done. The topic is indeed "one of the most debated subjects within the parrot community", but you do not present any advocate of wing clipping. All your participants are against clipping, so I cannot help but feel that this discussion is somewhat one sided. Don't get me wrong: I personally am AGAINST clipping, but I would have liked to hear the other side's arguments, and trust me, these arguments sometimes go beyond the usual "for safety", etc. Believe it or not, some people even claim that birds don't really like to fly... It may be a coincidence that just yesterday I published a video that emphasizes the importance of exercise through flight for our pet birds. It is titled "Are Your Birds Getting Enough Exercise?" if you care to have a look-see (it's only 3 minutes).
I can see your point if the issue wasnt more of a scientific and fact debate rather than opinion. Can one have the opinion that their bird being clipped is best for their health, relationship, etc? Sure. But that opinion has zero factual evidence where as the point that clipping your bird is more harmful and greatly outweighs any positives of clipping (if there even are any) is backed up a plenty. See parrotvolancy.com for example if you havent - the website is well sourced. What evidence can a pro clipper bring to us?
@@kenzers- Indeed, yes, I HAVE encountered people who argued that clipping was best for their health, relationship, etc. But more often it is the argument that it does not HURT a bird in the slightest and that they are FINE without flight. And it's not only parrots, as finches are also involved... Yes, I have perused parrotvolancy: I find it extremely well presented and I am thrilled to have found this site thanks to this video. But the "sources" are often "professional opinions" rather than "true scientific studies". So I am afraid they would not convince the pro-clippers. The video itself states that this topic is still one of the most debated, so I gather there are people who CAN debate for the side of clipping. At least, if they had been invited, we would know whether they can or not. If the evidence was as backed up as you state, there would no longer be an argument.
@@CVersailles You will never be able to convince "pro-clippers". All one needs to do is read a textbook on avian biology to see that naturally flighted birds will be negatively affected if they are unable to fly. How can an animal not be negatively affected by being deprived of its normal locomotion? Why don't I see anyone arguing the loss of mobility for ANY OTHER ANIMAL? There are no "true scientific studies" on the effects of wing-clipping, so it is impossible to present them. Anyway, I'm confused why people who want to keep birds in their naturally flighted state are expected to present any evidence at all. Where is the evidence from the people who support clipping that it does not harm the birds? What makes more sense, that removing the animal's normal way of moving would negatively affect them, or that removing the animal's normal movement would have absolutely no negative effects at all? Nothing will ever convince someone who is deadset on clipping--nothing. You're wrong that I don't cite any scientific studies, because I cite loads of them. They cover parallel topics and offer support for my argument. For example, it is considered unethical to house penguins without the opportunity to swim. If one does not see a double standard between that and parrot care, I can't make one see. A couple of other examples are 1.) the study on flight restriction that showed muscle atrophy and 2.) the study on oxidative stress that showed flighted exercise led to lower levels of free radicals. It's not my fault that no studies on the effects of wing-clipping exist.
Basically, what I'm saying here is, my argument is very comprehensive and has a million times more support for it than any pro-clipping argument I have ever seen. I have never seen anyone do anything to support the idea that clipping did not negatively affect the bird. Literally all they have are personal statements like "My bird is happy and healthy" while my anecdotes show specific behaviours that are clearly linked with the biological urge to fly. My arguments are also bolstered by avian biology and behaviour as well as some tangential studies. Clippers have nothing because their idea is incompatible with reality. You're not going to find a study that says how you can leave a muscle in disuse and it won't atrophy or that an animal unable to access normal locomotion is just as healthy as its normal counterparts. You're just not going to find that. Every argument for clipping starts with "But I need to for safety" (or some other reason based on the human's needs) and ends with "He's happy and healthy anyway". On the first point, there are always alternatives to clipping. On the second point, they have no way of proving that their bird is happy or healthy. Notice how my arguments are not based off of "how happy a bird looks" or "how healthy a bird looks". I don't think you're giving me damn near enough credit when there is absolutely nothing comparable coming from the other side of the aisle.
@@ParrotVolancy Whoa... Easy... I'm not the enemy... I said I was thrilled to have found the site and had "perused" it, meaning I "looked it over in a cursory manner". I don't claim to be an expert and certainly don't have the competence to argue these issues with you. Forget I even said anything. I regret speaking up in the first place, trying to understand why pro-clippers, who abound, were not represented. My mistake...
@@CVersailles You don't need to be sorry for commenting your thoughts. @__@ It's a fair question, but I think it just comes down to the fact that everyone involved in this video wants to advocate for birds' well-being. There aren't many arguments for clipping that do so with the bird in mind. Typically, it's more like "Well, this is better for the human, and it doesn't really hurt the bird". The safety issue about flying into things and actually sustaining an injury or dying is so remote that you may as well say people shouldn't drive because they might crash and die. Seriously, it's so unbelievably rare. The flying out of the house issue is, once again, a human issue. It's our responsibility to keep them from flying out of the house. It's not their responsibility not to fly. I don't believe that there is any reason to hear arguments from clippers because they have nothing but 1.) excuses as to why they can't accommodate flight, always based on what is convenient for them and 2.) statements insisting that their bird is "perfectly fine" which they simply can't support. A side-by-side comparison of flighted birds and clipped birds will always reveal that the flighted birds demonstrate a range of behaviours more consistent with what is natural for them and what one observes in the wild. This, in turn, is the basis for most captive animal welfare standards nowadays. Even dog trainers and behaviourists are encouraging people to replicate activities which their dogs were bred to do, and those are domesticated animals. It's almost like allowing an animal to perform the behaviours dictated by their biology is better for the animal. I guess what I'm saying is, normally I do like to hear both sides of the story, but I've already heard their side of the story, and they're wrong. Like, if someone made a video explaining why horses can't be kept in stalls 24/7, I wouldn't ask to see the perspective of the person who thinks it's okay. Some things are just not good husbandry. Not everything is morally ambiguous.
very bad advice, birds wings SHOULD be clipped!
You go tell that to them naughty, unclipped wild birds!!
U really shouldn't own a bird if you dont want a pet that can fly.
This video was extremely bad, and biased. It completely misrepresents clipping and the reasons why it is reasonable.
Please show me a scientific study that states with research that clipping offers any benefit to the bird
@@SoaringWingsFlock you dont need a study to understand the reasons: If an unclipped bird gets scared and ignores recall it is almost impossible to retrieve. They are also MUCH more likely to get into a flight accident if they are flying constantly. Hell, Mike whose owner you showed here not long ago almost killed himself crashing into glass at high speed. That accident would not have happened had he been clipped.
@@paloma4444 you do need a scientific reason because I’m sorry, I’m not going to prevent my bird from flying, increase chances of illness and decrease stimulation because one person is trying to tell me that wing clipping is the way forward. None of my birds have never injured themselves due to flight because we trained them to control it.
Mikey flew into a window because he didn’t see it. It was a poor location to fly at, something that even his owner admitted. Rather than forcing your bird to not fly train them and choose safe places to fly.
Change your environment to suit your bird. Don’t change your bird to suit your environment.
@@paloma4444 if Mikey was clipped many more accidents would have happened. For example, keep being bruised and cut open from falling, obesity, higher chances of heart issues, higher chances of fatty liver, boredom, even self mutilation. Your excuses for wing clipping are poor
@@SoaringWingsFlock A clipped bird is not gonna get obese if you feed it a healthy diet and exercise. I had a cockatiel that was clipped, and she lived a normal lifespan with no major health issues. She also failed to fly far away a few times. Had she been unclipped, I dont think we would have ever gotten her back. Listen, I admire you for sticking up for the birds, but this video is not showing any of the downsides. I have a macaw that came to me clipped now, and I wanna let her flight feathers grow, but I fear. I fear that someday if she gets spooked I am never gonna be able to get her back.