Do Amish believe they're the only true Christians? (Amishman answers)
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Do Amish believe they are the only true Christians? Ben explains. Get the full 1-hour+ conversation here: / amishamerica
Ben is Old Order Amish living in Lancaster County, PA, husband to Mary & father of six.
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My name is Erik Wesner and I'm not Amish. Back in 2004, I met the Amish while selling books. Since then, I've visited 5,000+ Amish homes & dozens of Amish communities. My book on Amish business, Success Made Simple: An Inside Look at Why Amish Businesses Thrive, was published in 2010. I run the Amish America website: amishamerica.com/
Image credits: Cindy Cornett Seigle; Don Burke (www.flickr.com... Jim Halverson
“I believe in letting my light shine just not letting it shine and other people’s eyes”
I was LDS (Mormon) for a while. They believed they were the only true church in the world. I'd rather be Mennonite. I did officially leave in 2010. I'm mainstream Christian now. I love Acts, one of my favorite books of the Bible.
I really respect the Amish and Mennonite communities and their Christian beliefs
I was going to say this. I had the local LDS church’s missionary girls visit me for a year. They tried hard to convert me and yes they believe that. I’m a Protestant but I know many religions believe the same.
My Wife is Mennonite! They are a little insular but generally we agree on most points of doctrine.
In my area we are near a Swartzentruber community, who live as strictly as any Anabaptist order. I could live their way, but I don't think I could raise children "outside the world," so to speak. I couldn't make that choice for someone else.
@@MelissaThompson432 look into the Reformed Mennonite Church.
Baptized members have to live a strict church life, but their children are allowed to run free with the world.
Unfortunately that has been the cause of their low numbers.
I love his common sense and level headed attitude. Its much different then the Old Order and Schwarzentruber. Thabks Erik!
Love listening to this guy !
Looking forward to more!
That's a very wise perspective! I also believe that there are at least a few genuine followers of Christ in each Christian denomination, too, even though the official stance of my Church is it's the true one and I see the doctrine of my denonination making more sense than some doctrinal stances of other denominations. I also believe there are "tares", so to speak, in each one including my own, too. As long as they are genuinely trying to live a Christ-like lifestyle, no matter the denomination, I will view them as brothers and sisters in Christ and treat them as such.
thats what i love about the amish.they are relgious,but they aren't pushy.leading by example is always better than forcing it on someone.
I really really enjoyed this is very educational so many people feel that their church is the only church and we all know that's not true as far as that goes. I enjoyed listening to his input about this and yes we all grow where we were planted there are things in our lives that we can control when there are things that we cannot control I truly look forward to more of these conversations blessings to you and yours
Thank you Debbi I think that is what Ben was trying to convey. "Grow where you're planted" has stuck with me over the years!
@@AmishAmerica you two are doing an excellent job at conveying that blessings to you and yours
Good man, great video. We are all products of where we are born and how we are raised.
Yes, either because of OR despite that we are who we are. It comes down not to the cards you're dealt, but did you play those cards your best.
Too bad it's only for patreon these conference calls sound interesting but I suspect that my pocket lint is not a recognised legal tender 😂
We will still have free excerpts from the full convos. This channel isn't changing. But just have to make sure we're paying the bills too 😁
I loved this little video, and cannot wait to hear about the new Patreon, I'm very interested. Thanks for sharing here with us.
Thank you, very excited over here about the Patreon - but really in general just about sharing some more of my talks with Ben. I know people will enjoy the topics we (mainly Ben :) ) covered
I hope you continue this with Ben. This is wonderful.
Thanks Erik. Nice to get this perspective. I always find your videos entertaining and informative.
I do appreciate that.
I like Ben's attitude towards the different Christian religions. I like listening to him. I quite agree that we should be a light for others. Our actions should be kind and pay forward God's love.
So, do the Amish share the gospel with someone who inquires of the hope they have. If so, what would be their explanation of what the gospel is?
In my experience the New Order do but I’ve never seen an Old Order do so.
Thank you for these videos.. very interesting!
Happy you like them and thank YOU for watching 🙂
He's spot on about life in general not only Amish people
Thank you so much for sharing this❤
I would love to watch more of your videos. I can't wait. Ty
Awesome! Thank you!
Amazing! Love this!
Glad you like it!
I absolutely agree with Ben!! I believe he is absolutely right with the scripture he mentioned and have said the same thing for many years. Great video!! ~Alice
This man seems like a very wise man.
Hi Eric. I just finished looking at the picture plus the five added pictures on your sight but I don’t know how to comment on that site. The photos are beautiful and I am inclined to agree that the photo of the buggy coming out of the snow is one of the best among many really beautiful photos. Do you ever sell them? I know that they were at your work while the one of the buggy with the horses coming out of the snow what is your work but is there a place they can be purchased? If I ride with you I just wanted to tell you again how much I enjoy receiving these things in my mailbox and watching you on UA-cam. Play some 20 minutes in the evening before I turn in. I hope you continue doing this along with your many other projects.
Excellent! There is a channel called Gotta B Me. Are they Progressive Amish? Btw, are you progressive Amish, or evolving in that direction?
Well I don't know that channel, but I can say I'm not progressive Amish nor going that way 😉however I maybe have a few "Amishish" tendencies, gonna even do a vid on that. Glad you liked this one!
@@AmishAmerica the thing I love is that you are so fascinated and respectful of Amishism yet you are not Amish. I respect that.
Hey thank you I am glad that comes through
A few questions for a future video: What kind of toys do Amish children play with? Stuffed horses and toy buggies? If an Amish person were diagnosed with sleep apnea, would it be possible for them to use a CPAP hooked up to a generator?
I Just wish that the more Conservative Amish could be more loving and accepting of their fellow saved Christians and not assume that Non Amish are all heathens. The Amish in my area of Central Virginia are very cold hearted towards the "English" members of the community. About the only time you can get a smile out of them is when you make their cash register ring when you buy something in their stores and when you speak kindly to them it's like they are almost biting their own lip to force a smile. Even though i was raised Amish from a very old and original dying Mountain Amish Community of Virginia and now wear English clothing out of economy and speak a little Penn. Dutch, I'm ostracized and ignored when i attempt to connect with them. It's as though they are assuming that i am Shunned because i am not 100% like them.
Interesting how you try and make the way the Amish treat you, applicable to all Christians in your community, while knowing full well that it is you specifically, and only you who is affected.
You even provide the reason for their coldness towards you and specifically only you.
I fully understand why, just from your two faced comment, I don't like you either.
Some groups can definitely be more closed as you probably know well. On the other hand I wonder what someone like this would say to you. Really liked his perspective as a member of one of the plainest Amish churches. www.californiademocrat.com/news/2019/aug/21/Shetler-sheds-light-on-the-Amish-experience/
Are the Swartzentruber Amish, they tend to act like that towards "English" and even other Amish.
Your error is trying to "connect" with them as an ex-Amish dressed like an englisher. Naturally they are going to assume that you are either shunned or trying to missionarize them. Especially if you tried to discuss religion with them.
Most Amish may believe that there are other Christian people in the world... But my impression is that many/most Amish also believe that the Amish way is the one right way... It seems their entire culture is built upon this premise that Amish lifestyle will give you the best chance at eternal life -- and everyone else is either wrong or on a less certain path. Hence, all the pressure to follow the rules, join the church, and make a lifetime commitment to their church, community, and lifestyle...
I have another question for you as a Man who has lived with and studied these wonderful Amish people. I have seen many other videos on the Amish and in the comments I have seen several people that think the Amish abuse their horses both by starvation and over working them till their nothing more than good for the slaughter house. I only know my small Amish Order here in Northern Michigan and all the horses and Mules belonging to these families are very well cared for. I believe and have told these haters that they simply don't know what they are talking about. Is this something that you have ever seen
There may be some truth to this at least in some communities. So I had a similar response to yours years ago when I first heard about this. It didn't "fit" with the idea I had of the Amish as a generally thoughtful people who should at least be practical about horses from a monetary/resources sense. And a lot of Amish people, like any people, grow attached to and affectionate towards their horses. I even have a story of how Ben demonstrated this to me showing deep concern for one of his horses which had an emergency situation, just this past week when we were on a call. I think that is more the norm - as you'd expect! But that said, there are bad apples and not only that, bad habits/practices that perpetuate when you have a large enough group of people.
Have I ever been present on the scene when this has happened? No. But you do hear enough accounts of it (and I've seen suggestive photos before) that I wouldn't doubt that it happens with some. Thanks for your question. This is one we might consider addressing in a future discussion with Ben.
I think the Amish regard horses as machinery /tools for work and transportation. This upsets those who regard horses more like pets so they disagree when many Amish sell older horses thru auctions. I drove taxi for my local Amish Community for 10 years and never saw neglect but did see a lot of working horses. Also saw a couple really luxury barns where registered Belgians and fancy driving horses were raised as the family business. I'm in north eastern Ohio😊
I know Amish and they treat their animals very good and take care of them better than most non Amish do. My Amish friend even cried when his favorite horse that he had a long time died.
@@RichRez I agree and any horse owner can have an unhealthy animal that just doesn't make it.
It would be cool if you could make a video on the Amish different sects
Nice idea. Have talked about different groups in many videos. I think one reason I haven't made a standalone video is...there are a lot of groups :) But something to consider
I'd really like to support you. I'd support a lower tier on Patreon.
Thanks! The full conversations will be available on the lower tier. Want to make it accessible to as many as possible. And there will still be some excerpts
I gotta say this. With only 2 murders in 250 years that's happened society outside an Amish settlement sure could use a few lessons.
I’m shocked that an Amish man has the technology to be in a video yet alone allowing his image to be shown. That is usually not allowed.
That's explained in the first video of this interview series.
Let pray that we will all get to heaven.
I left the OO Amish church 16 years ago. It took that long for me to understand, I want the Bible to be true, but I can’t make any of the stories be irrefutably true. I will not take part in making its prophecies come true.
A Hindu scripture says, I am time, the destroyer of worlds. That could mean generations. It also refers to kin and friends as already being dead, the destiny of the soul of the said person depends on fulfilling the physical death of them. Kind of matches the NT. Sadly, written by men who had no children, probably never saw the love a mother dotes on her little ones.
I can identify families where religion was ultimate on both sides, one side, and where they worked together, and left religion where it belongs. Not in the homes.
Lineages were destroyed, and others are families that are quite wealthy. If they can continue to hand down such work ethics and competence, there’s hope for their great,great, great, grandchildren to have what they had. Support for their rights to have children without guilt, shame, or regrets.
As long as someone repents and puts their faith in Jesus, who is Christ, they will be saved. We are not saved through works, payments, baptism, etc. We are saved through Jesus and Jesus alone. John 14:6! Culture has nothing to do with it. I have always been curious about the Amish position on this. Thank you!
A heaven filled with your congregation only sounds like hell to me.
I was taught that christ is the true church. Jesus said i am the way and the truth and the light. Humans are flawed and without learning what the word of God is trying to tell us. The Amish don’t want to go past the 8th grade. Ive got nothing against the Amish. Education is knowledge. You can learn and grow.
How would Jehovah witness take on Amish religion visa versa…. I was encouraged to believe in JW by a friend as I wanted to know more about God…. Now I think God is overtaken by man
I was born and baptised a Protestant, but kind of knew from a very early age that I was a Catholic. Later on I converted. I of course believe that my church, the Catholic church, is the original one. The Christian church that Jesus and his diciples founded. But, I do not look down on any other Christian church! We are family! And I actually have more in common with faithful muslims than I have with ateists. We believe in God. And there is only one God...(But did I convert because I thought it was the original church? No. Because I felt it was my home).
You have been decieved; Catholicism is a "church" that was created by Satan himself to decieve people and pull people away from Christ. You need to repent and turn to Jesus and Jesus alone. John 14:6, John 3:16.
Scripture tells us "Romans 10:9
New King James Version"
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved."
Where does Jesus fit in all this stuff?
the chosen of god observe and keep all the laws statues and ordinances of god that is the 7th day(Saturday) Sabbath , Passover , tabernacles ( feast of the lord) dedecation of the temple Dietary laws all written in the bible if they do not they are not the chosen of god .(sorry ) .
The Catholic Church is the true Church :)
News flash every religion believes that they are the chosen people
Yes, but not all claim OTC status (thank Goodness). And those that do..? Oy vay... 🙄🙄🙄
The only true Christian is one that "confess with your mouth that Jesus is The Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, and you will be saved."
Romans 10:9
It doesn't matter what isolated sects or schismatics believe about each other, if an Amish does what that verse says they are just as saved as a catholic, protestant, orthodox, who do that.
NO they are not.
Any church that says only they are going to heaven is a cult. Cults follow men,not Jesus. He is the ONLY WAY to heaven. Ask HIM to forgive your sins and follow Him and His word. Get a Bible printed in English. What's not in God's word is NOT any rule you need to live by.
I am really enjoying these videos with Ben. I'm a Christian from a non-denominational church. When Ben said that he tries to be a light for others to see his example I was reminded of what a pastor of ours once said (and I've heard it other places too). He said that our example is more important than our words and our lives may be the only Bible that people read. In other words, they learn about Jesus through our example of trying to live as He taught us in His word. I'm looking forward to more from you and Ben. God bless you both and your families.
Amen brother.
Well, they seem to care about the Bible more than any other Christian I've met. Usually people only take what's convenient and ignore the rest.
When our pastor and various ministers are asked this particular question, they will tell that there will be many who DON'T make. It will not matter your church/religion. What will matter is where you stand with GOD and if you are following HIS WORD as He has commanded.
If a person doesn't believe that their Church is the true Church, then they need to leave and go find the true Church. Salvation in not found in a false Church.
Salvation doesn't depend on ANY church.. Salvation is the simple act of asking Jesus into our heart plain and simple.
@@evilborg that is a lie of satan that that's all you have to do.
First off the Bible says who ever believes and calls on the name of Jesus will be saved.
Also believe and be baptized, and John 3:16, whomsoever believeth.
How do we know who believes in Jesus, by their obedience.
If you love Me, obey what I taught you.
Asking Jesus into your heart may be the first step, but your obedience to scripture will be the evidence that Jesus resides in your heart.
@@broz1488 Jesus said Where there is more than 2 I will be there also. That is a church... look it up. Matthew 18:20 Church does NOT have to be in a building... it can be anyplace Christians gather to worship.
❤️❤️❤️I lived next door to an old lady who told my mother our family were all going to hell because we were in the Baptist church and we should be in her Church of Christ. My Mother stayed in tears over her nonsense. Everyone needs to live and be in God’s will. If you walkout a life based on Psalms 119 you are in God’s will and will live with Him forever in Heaven. A True Believer better not expect a Church to save them! You better believe in what Jesus Christ who shed his blood on a cross at Calvary to redeem the Sin of all mankind. If you deny that you and everyone else will go to hell.
I so love this man and his faith. He truly is a blessing to live for God and should inspire us to be Christlike for the world to witness. Love his explanation of how many churches are and can be complimentary for our Lord.
Love them. Hope you keep going. 😊
That's the plan!
Like trying to understand Amish Mennonite and so forth ...... ✌
How does Amish government work? Do they have lawyers and judges? A form of Congress/parliament? Police?
If what he says is true then why do of the Amish view "us" all out here as separate, as "the English" and if their child leaves/is shunned out of the Community, then they are grieved as dead, and they are believed to be now be in accordance with the devil on their way to hell?
THAT is still taught/believed.
Have you ever talked about the p
Pennsylvania dutch that are not Mennonite nor amish. So many people do not understand that. It really confuses people sometimes. Especially here in Berks County Chester County, Lancaster, Chester county, and Dauphin County Adams county, and I would say even Lehigh County. My dad's side is Mennonite, but mom is From Maine.
Great points I did do a video touching on that idea last year
@AmishAmerica really..? How did I miss that one..?! I will have to go search for it now!
Gary Busey, Ron Perlman, Danny Cooksey, Sissy Spacek all look like Amish
Everyone thought they were the true church and none of them were. The Mennonite church is horrible. I was Mennonite and I 100% encourage everyone to leave the Mennonite church.
I usually only use this with Atheists who "claim" religions drove them to that conclusion and, Oh yes they did read the WHOLE Bible. " You may have gone in the doors of a building ( home or meeting house/barn), but you never let the Guest that all others brought in their hearts into yours." I'm not able to join my local Mennonite Church, but I attend as often as I may and am welcomed.
Oh my, so sorry to hear that. There is quite a spectrum of Mennonites, so experiences can vary quite a lot from Mennonite USA to Eastern to Holdeman to Stauffer to Reformed Mennonite, et al... it seems like there'd be a happy place for everyone within that spectrum. 😑
Why does an incorporeal spiritual being give a rats behind that you wear outmoded clothing or this color suspender or that?? If you believe that,then your god is simply way too petty and small.
Eric, talk is cheap! I would suggest looking at the actions! I had a conversation with you @15 years ago in my place of business. I was an Amish man then and I probably would have talked the same way back. If that was true what he said they would fellowship with other believers! After 40+ years of being Amish, God opened my eyes to the brain washing and hypocrisy of the Amish cult! They say it's just a life style but when we leave they no longer fellowship with us! No Ben is not being truthful, you need to ask harder and deeper questions!
I don't appreciate when people come in making demands. Maybe you can relate in your own business.
Or, calling one of my best friends "not truthful". Ben gave a thoughtful answer to what he was asked. You appear to be angry b/c we didn't do the discussion on shunning and so on that you personally wanted.
I do appreciate thoughtful follow-ups. But grind axes somewhere else please.
@@AmishAmerica I lived that life, I know Amish people in many different states, and i still consider them my friends. I have a book here that i bought from you and on the inside of the cover it says you are a "noted expert on the Amish". I don't care if you label yourself like that but I am here to tell you, I and many others know a side to the Amish that you will never see or experience because you didn't grow up in it! no matter how good friends you are. As I said before, at one time I would have answered like Ben did. To the utube world, Ben's answers paint a false picture of the Amish belief system! I am by no means angry, but choose to present the truth! Try going to church with Ben and having communion in his church 😎😎
OK, got it. Be well :)