Osage Orange Pyramid Bow by Flagella Dei - Review
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2019
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Armin Hirmer
Malta Archery
100 Triq Annibale Preca
Lija LJA 1915
Malta
Hey!! Mr. Armin Thanks for the Nice Review!! Nice to see you shoots . great day for all
Nice to see you reviewing something a bit off the beaten path. Interesting bow, and bow wood. Thx as always!!
😂 nice reference to Jörgs channel 😂
Hannes Böhm let me show you its features HA HA HA
I was about to continue writing my internship report paper when the video came. The report surely can wait.
I´ve got the same bow. It´s twisted too. But it shoots fine for several thousends of arrows without breaking. So whoever is concerned about the twist- don´t worry about it. It´s made out of a natural product
THANKS FOR THE REVIEW AND THE BOW IS PRIMITIVE BUT VERY NICE AND EFFICIENT.
The TV program can wait. That is one really cool bow.
Great video man keep up the great work love your videos and your bow reviews are the best
Another useful review, thank you. It's always nice to get an informed opinion, particularly about the somewhat peculiar traits of an unbacked self bow. Well done Sir, once more.
This is a very very interesting bow review for me, thank you very much, Armin. Simply a sucker for anything where the string doesn't tuch the limbs.
The limbs can have even propeller twist, it doesn't matter, until the string passes the riser and handle at the center. It should still shoot good then. This is the beauty of flat and longbows... of which I am a specialist.
Its not a sin to shoot a longbow or flatbow with a thumb release anymore after I defiled some asiatic bows with Mediterranean....😂 More times than You.
The lightning just missed me.
I saved You, by doing that, obviously.😀
Again, like someone already remarked in other comment, this bow doesn't need so wide tips, tiller is allmost whip tiller, so also this gives it less efficiency.
A beautiful bow, but just from looking it, one should expect average performance.
Which is not always bad, such bows are much more forgiving as fast and nervous bows with light risers are.
Good, honest review!
Danke und Viele Grusse aus Slowenien!
der bogen ist so fantastisch das ich ihn mir bestimmt irgendwann kaufe super review armin
Nice bow. Love that hole. Gives the bow some character. And yes, it isn't easy to tiller such a bumpy bow. Experienced that for myself two weeks back while building a flatbow out of ash.
Thx for reviewing this osage bow. I'm looking to try one myself. I'm also reminded about how tricky it's getting, now that I have several bows, to remember the quirks of each one, and how to shoot them to get the best performance. I need to use a notebook. Also, I would like to say that I recently got a Sage 48" Shadow Youth bow, but I don't want anyone to know because it's a hoot, and I might want to get another one. ;-)
I used a little masking tape to protect the leather wrap on my flagella dei bow. Doesn't add much to the diameter of the arrow pass, but stops the wrap damage.
I build osage bows and the tiller is not right. Needs to bend closer to the handle and have a graceful curve to the tips. With the tiller on that bow you will get more string follow causing the poundage to drop some and you loss speed. But it is a beautiful bow and it will work fine
Yes, as soon as it was on the tillering rig it was obvious the tiller was off. More so on the right side than the left. I have seen this in other flagella dei bows as well. Mostly the "primitive" ones. I have quite a few bows from them and do like them a lot but sometimes I wonder if they need some more quality checking before shipping. It's a bit of a coin toss sometimes.
Reading the comments I was beginning to think, is it only me here who can clearly see this bow is whip ended.
The tiller is all wrong and have seen it several times before from this bowyer.
How do the asymmetrical Japanese bows work? I've seen people mention you get more power by holding it in the center, but then I don't get the Japanese bows.
Locking it at full draw on the tillering tree for extended periods of time isn't a very great idea, either. Lol
@@dokstrange6891 Japanese bows are like that because of the handshock issue with holding a bow in the center. The Japanese held it off centre like way off centre to prevent hand shock and it made Japanese assymetrical bows work on horseback for having a short lower limb and longer upper limb allowing you to draw 34" not fast bows but accuracy was the order of the day. Different philosophies opposite of the Turks who shot many arrows and thought shooting one arrow accurately was useless over shooting many arrows accurate enough.
A nature's bow that's reversible and with 'peep sight' ! I bet you felt the ' caveman in you on your first hunt.
Nice tiller / bow draw weight tool.
Maraming Salamat Armin.
I was just wondering when will a Western bow come to be reviewed, and then this vid aired. So, perfect timing!
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Awesome bow, but this part right here 03:53 just steals the spotlight for best skit of the day 😂
Interesting bow, thanks for the review
Osage orange is a wood from my country!😉😉👍👍👍🎯🎯🎯
Lovely review again, as ever Armin. The early Manchu are said to have shot wooden longbows with thumb draw, so you are in good company!
I have a 66# English long bow from Flagella Dei and love it. It has a bit of hand shock, but not bad. The tips are quite beefy, so...
It has taken only minor set after a year and a half of regular shooting. I can reach about 170 meters with it. And it has turned the most beautiful orange/rust color. That yellow wood turns dark orange after a while.
I have made a couple of 40# flat bows using the Osage Orange from Flagella Dei, one of them I recurved the tips, but mine have tips about half the width as this bow you've reviewed. My bows have zero hand shock. This bow here doesn't need the tips to be so wide. Osage is an amazing wood and I think they have overcompensated out of fear of breakage.
Great video, as always. One day I will come to visit you in Malta. Peace.
Unreal review,
This Model an the other Swiss Cheese one You reviewed.
Excellente Dude.
I asked a traditional English bowyer whether a taper tool he was selling would be ok for bamboo shafts. He responded with "traditional longbows don't shoot bamboo arrows". He's going to hate me lol.
Thank you so much sir for sharing this excellent video👍🙏👌
- Btw, may Tyr and Thor bless you all the way to Valhall🏹
That's a lot of set for such a wide bow.
super darauf habe ich gewartet
Limb tips are waaaay to wide! Narrow those tips down and you will notice a vast difference in performance. That will also kill most of the handshock and vibration. Also tiller looks off and pulling to 32" just weakened the draw weight. Ive built many many many osage bows. Find out what draw weight they tillered that bow to and never draw it past that. It will ruin the bow if you do.
A flatbow? Are you feeling well, Armin? Haha
Nice review :)
At 3:55 Hahahaha.
Nice review as usual
You, sir, make me want to pick up another martial art: archery! Maybe my wife will join me...
Thank You for the Time to show this one Armin !! I think It should be called an Osage Banana, I like the way you see the good side to all that you show ?? > good Low Price though ??
I made a gao ying thumb ring myself, the ring feels like it’s a mix between a manchu and a turkish thumbring, more comfortable than a turkish thumb ring though
What an elaborated review by Armin.. he touched each an every aspect.. specially draw weight measuring (Tillering) and nice to see Khatra with a Long Bow😀.. but I wonder that the hole in Bow does affects any thing ..Means to durability or performance?
the hole is there and the bow is built around it, so no problem
Auch wenns wahrscheinlich nicht interessiert, gebe ich auch mal mein Bogenbauersenf dazu.
Hmmm, also für einen Ossage Bogen erscheint er mir um einiges zu breit gebaut, dies macht man bei Ossage eigentlich nicht so gern. Der Tiller incl. des verdrehenden WA ist mMn eher schlecht gemacht, er biegt sich wie ein long-handle-Bow und hat fast susschließlich Biegung in der Mitte des Wurfarms (was man so erkennen kann, hatte ihn ja nicht selber in der Hand). Sollte der Bogen nicht für jemanden mit Auszug von 31" getillert/gebaut worden sein, sollte man ihn auch nicht bis dorthin ausziehen (das geht natürlich mit den seelenlosen Tech-Bögen allemal), es erschien mir, als wäre da eher bei 28" Schluss, aber Ossage verkraftet das zum Glück...ich glaube ne Esche oder nen Hasel wäre Dir in dem Moment gnadenlos durchgeknackt.
Die Tips sind soooo breit gebaut, das es fast ein Garant für Handshock ist, die müssten viel filigraner sein. Und noch ein Tipp...ein Selfbow wird nicht so lange geankert...ihn mit 30" auf den Tillerstock zu zwingen und dann ewig (mehrere Sekunden) so hängen zu lassen, ist nicht gut fürs Holz. (Set nimmt drastisch zu)
Das ist natürlich jetzt komplett Klugscheißen auf hohem Niveau! LOL
Und was noch erwähnt werden muss...der Preis ist unglaublich günstig, von daher kann man bei vielen Dingen auch einfach mal ein Auge zu drücken.
Wasn't Gary Chynne shooting one of those for long time?
I do not know
Yes I've seen him shoot it he does great videos on how to shoot traditional English long bows and styles from the Celtic and Germanic tribes quite a knowledgeable and comical fella. Nice guy!
The tips are large, so the string twists them? If the tips were thinner, it wouldn't happen?
I think it's in the whole piece of wood
If this limbs have bent after a few shoots and it’s a new bow them is this not a major problem?
The church bells are a lovely touch!
Now I’d like to address the elephant in the room. There’s a hole in the limb. And an asymmetrically placed hole at that! Wouldn’t that compromise the strength of the limb? Wouldn’t the limb be prone to twisting over time? Is there a point to the hole?
Inquiring minds want to know........
Cool looking primitive bow. Armin, were you tempted to shoot an arrow through the hole? As for provoking the elder gods: Thunnor was obviously distracted that day and Woden had a dental appointment. Flaxen Saxon.
you made me laugh, no lightning from the sky
I thought it was bad practice to hold a self bow at full draw for extended periods of time
yes it is, but what can I do when I want to show you :D
@@ArminHirmer I understand. . . But it broke my heart, lucky it did not break the bow! 😋👌
@@cameronmoore3886 Mine too...:D
All flagella dei bows are slow but the quality awesome
"Let me show you its features" eh? Next thing you know, Armin is going to be making his own crazy arrows and destroying gelatin 😂
No wonder they want the hair of my salwar kameez
Yeah a self bow isn't the same as laminate or fiberglass bows he usually shows. Primitive is better in my opinion though.
Watching this video.....Just before second shot after" whatever God you believe in, strike me down" comment....BEEP BEEP BEEP...US National Weather Service has issued a Severe Thunderstorm in your area....Beep Beep Beep🤦♂️ I aint laughing any more! Lets just say you got my ATTENTION. Its that dang Maltese Daoist heathen....He made me watch it! KIDDING about the heathen part LOL Hey, I was a bit startled. Didnt mean to throw you under the bus 🤣 May have been because I was in Indiana and not my home? Still perfect timing! On a different matter....Would the twisting at the tips rob the bow of some potential speed? It surely wouldnt be as efficient, I would assume? It is pretty though. I love Osage Orange. I have it growing here on my farm. I have a split log in the barn curing, as I type this. Might get up the energy, to try and make a self bow out of it! Nice video again, Sir! Thank you
Flatbow with shoot thru riser 😂
shirtless was staring at you. lol
Is there a guy taking a bath in the background?
3:55 "Let me show you its features. Ho Ho Ho ...!"
Guilty watching the Slingshot channel :D
How many euros? 89?
For actual prices better check their website
Nice looking bow but it’s seams weird to see you shouting a big old long bow thank you.
Just remember the game all my catches are my “kills” I get to free them or eat them it's up to me. Don't change the rules of the game or we all die literally 👁️👽🙏
I don't like the bow. A pyramid bow should bend a lot more next to the handle to take advantage of the great width in the area. In this bow, that area doesn't seem to be storing energy when drawn, which means higher moving weight less efficiency. Me no like the tiller
You insult billions of people from many religions,when you mock God,or use his name in vain...l have watched you for a long time,though this dissapoints me...