Like Kate (Doc Holidays girlfriend) told the bartender in the movie Tombstone... "Touch that gun & I'll burn ya down!"... That will be a new paradigm for troops to have to deal with horrific but possibly cauterized wounds... Brave new world...
Yep. MAGA guys think that 2nd Amendment gives them to right to have any weapon they want -- Machine Guns, Mortars, Tanks, artillery, and now Laser Weapons.
2:45 If I am guessing correctly, QinetiQ is not pronounced "Quineti-cue". It is a goofy misspelling of Kinetic, using Q in place of K and C, and is pronounced like "Kinetic".
The Dragonfire is rated at 50kW range which is good for small applications, however its not enough Lockheed delivered the 300kW Fires Protection Capability-High Energy Laser (IFPC-HEL) in Sept 2022 to Army which is powerful enough to deal with missiles and aircraft For evolving threats, You need at 300kW laser
its just a technology demonstrator to learn to integrate all the tech and numbers fo scale it up. theyve been working on this for a long time, from what it seems they plan on using a small one on the new tempest aircraft for dazzling incoming missiles or sensors. you dont need to melt an entire aircraft for it to be effective. just damaging sensitive sensors can render a platform useless.
That uses a battery if I'm not mistaken, not ideal for safety especially with that much power, and I imagine slow recharge. A lot of burst energy/fire rate (depending on capacity) but slower "reload". Dragonfire uses flywheel, still a speculation concept but is safer and likely can be scaled up but taking up more space. I think some kind of supercapacitor would be best with instantaneous charge and discharge but I'm guessing tech is not there yet.
Yea, I was particularly thinking that a hypersonic missile for example, you have so little time to take it out.. and even if you do, perhaps the debris would still reach you.. But these systems are most likely the future of it and would be good if US & Britain work togethere on these! longterm allies..
@@bekeneel Lockheed Martin, just announced a production 50 kilowatt laser for short range defense against drones, artillery rounds and helicopter. Lockeed Martin delivered a 300 kilowatt prototype laser to the Army in June Raytheon has delivered a laser self defense system for NASAM and is also a major subcontractor for Kord Technology on a 50 kilowatt short range laser. Northrop Grumman has delivered a production 150-kilowatt LWSD systems to the Navy. Boeing delivered to the U.S Marines their Compact Laser Weapon System (CLWS) for defense against Drones and Mortars. So ahh how would it benefit the U.S Army, Navy, Marines or Air Force to collaborate with an entity that is just building proof of concepts. And I read last week that Raytheon, Lockheed-Martin and Northrop Grumman have 1 megawatt lasers in the prototype stage and will be ready for testing in 2023.
I think that in order to compensate for the reflectivity of the target and the vaporization and the dust in the atmosphere, it would be more realistic to be in the range of 1 MW because 95% of the energy will be lost. What they achieved is ideal in space. But is a good start , why not ?
if you mean cooperative targets, specially coated for absorbing the beam, maybe you are right. but this rarely happens in real situations. even a little polishing has strong reflection effects. and the target is moving. I did not say that it is not possible, but only improbable that that energy would be sufficient. in the end it will succeed, I'm sure. it's a promising start. given that it has other applications.
such weapons have advanced focusing optics. the targets are not. it's about dispersion. even lasers have something like this that needs to be corrected. of course, if you want to shoot down ducks or drones, that's ok, even too much. but the big prize will be ballistic nuclear warheads or hypersonic weapons. there the situation is more complicated. they are surrounded due to friction by a cloud of plasma. plasma and light don't quite get along. plus another unwanted effect that absorbs a lot of energy. dust and clouds. who works with lasers, know what it's about. I'm sure that laser generates 50 kw continuously, if I'm not mistaken. with pulsed lasers, even 10 Mw can be reached for a few nanoseconds. plus any laser beam also has a mechanical effect. light has no rest mass but has momentum
2. there are great challenges. 70 years after the invention of the laser, we are still on the first step of an extremely long road. we do not have a compact and powerful energy source, only modular nuclear reactors can provide a solution. this is due to the low efficiency of the lasers. those 50 kw are optical energy, so to get them you need at least 500...1000 kw of electrical energy. plus optics. at such energy densities, lenses and optical fibers do not last very long i. nobody wants to change the lens after 3 shots with the laser! and as any weapon attracts countermeasures, this technology vacates the modification of the carrier vectors. they are metal-ceramic or other materials (aerogel, carbon) that can withstand extreme heat.
Also, I wonder if reflective materials covering the target (similar to a bathroom mirror) would redirect the laser energy away from the target, rendering this weapon virtually useless?
Good point Bill. I think laser weapons will have their place eventually. Also, I am a little bothered that no one seems to mention the considerable limitations imposed by weather conditions.
These weapons will always have a very limited surface range because they won't be able to hit anything over the horizon, no matter how accurate they are (unless the developers have found a way of bending the laser around the earth's curvature). Land/sea to air and vice versa pose no problems for long range capabilities, bearing in mind that the further the target, the more divergent is the laser beam.
You didn't mention what is needed to power Dragon Fire? I am sure a ship can power it. What about a large plane - like a C-130, or C-17? What about a truck? Or a tank? A Humvee?
Hmmm, can hit a pound coin? At what range? 3 meters? For how long? How fast was the pound coin moving, if at all? Dobn't have to give full classified information, but this is worse than no information!
The U.K has already sent 20k troops to Europe, sent 12 billion to Ukraine and the second biggest giver to Ukraine in lethal military aid from any single country. Has done more than most and in many areas, more than the U.S which has stopped sending anything to Russian front. The U.K does need a much larger force that being said.
OMG 😂 I would love it if we could actually manufacture something worth having!!! What was the last thing that actually done the job for us Properly??? Bloody Sea Harriers!!!
7:39 Britain needs to step up, you say. Ummm, which other NATO countries have developed this technology to field readiness? And how many of them have given it to Ukraine? (To answer the first question, replace v=i_Y9M2v5z1g with v=WT3wjK9Jj6Q in the URL above.) Ukraine really needs this technology located at its power stations and substations - the perfect location. Also, given the PLAAF keeps sending up heaps of planes to circle Taiwan, Taiwan needs this technology too.
No , Britain needs to put this around it's own cities/ power stations / dams / military bases .. first and if Ukraine and Taiwan want to buy them. then they put in a request in to buy them ..
@@whatdoesntkillyoumakesyous6707 HVM 😂Saxon APCs 😂 mastiffs !!!!! Oh But we bought them from USA Come on tell me what is so special about what U.K. makes that we’ve sent to ukraine!
@Ry Moe we made and sent the mastiffs to Ukraine, i know this because i build them. USA and UK look the same but are different in many ways. We also build ridgeback and wolfhound. So check your fact before slating someone else.
@@stevenprosser5495 oh ok! We bought all the materials and drawings from USA put a few mods on them and there now British. Bit like British meat red tractor British farmer supplied? We buy it from other countries do the final butchery and packaging in U.K. and suddenly it made in Britain 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 This post is us about actual designing and producing something here in the U.K.! Like we were used to with the for example Sea harriers I forgot to say we are supplying Brimstone missiles in small number which are a success in terms of MADE IN UK
@@stevenprosser5495 the point is! We shouldn’t lay on our laurels and accept assembling things in the U.K. is GOOD enough!!! We should innovate and use the expertise within the U.K. itself which makes full supply chain jobs aswel as sales and exports and not just keeping you happy in your assembly role. Just because your alright in your job
£10 a shot. Imagine missiles worth millions getting shot down by just £10. Game changer indeed.
Hard to believe it's only seven years until we have T-800s and phased plasma rifles in the 40 Watt range
Like Kate (Doc Holidays girlfriend) told the bartender in the movie Tombstone... "Touch that gun & I'll burn ya down!"... That will be a new paradigm for troops to have to deal with horrific but possibly cauterized wounds... Brave new world...
Uzi 9mm plez
@yourstruly4817 funny enough, my brother would say the same thing
@@Demon-ft1th He must be a smart and funny guy 😉
@yourstruly4817 funny yes, smart 🤣 that's a real laugh
The weapon has now actually been used (test firings) to successfully bring down friendly target drones off the Northern Coast of Scotland.
Americans will love the handheld version of #Dragonfire .
Yep. MAGA guys think that 2nd Amendment gives them to right to have any weapon they want -- Machine Guns, Mortars, Tanks, artillery, and now Laser Weapons.
2:45 If I am guessing correctly, QinetiQ is not pronounced "Quineti-cue". It is a goofy misspelling of Kinetic, using Q in place of K and C, and is pronounced like "Kinetic".
The Dragonfire is rated at 50kW range which is good for small applications, however its not enough
Lockheed delivered the 300kW Fires Protection Capability-High Energy Laser (IFPC-HEL) in Sept 2022 to Army which is powerful enough to deal with missiles and aircraft
For evolving threats, You need at 300kW laser
its just a technology demonstrator to learn to integrate all the tech and numbers fo scale it up. theyve been working on this for a long time, from what it seems they plan on using a small one on the new tempest aircraft for dazzling incoming missiles or sensors. you dont need to melt an entire aircraft for it to be effective. just damaging sensitive sensors can render a platform useless.
That uses a battery if I'm not mistaken, not ideal for safety especially with that much power, and I imagine slow recharge. A lot of burst energy/fire rate (depending on capacity) but slower "reload". Dragonfire uses flywheel, still a speculation concept but is safer and likely can be scaled up but taking up more space. I think some kind of supercapacitor would be best with instantaneous charge and discharge but I'm guessing tech is not there yet.
It could be useful for dealing with small drones that would otherwise use up expensive and limited SAM's.
Yea, I was particularly thinking that a hypersonic missile for example, you have so little time to take it out.. and even if you do, perhaps the debris would still reach you.. But these systems are most likely the future of it and would be good if US & Britain work togethere on these! longterm allies..
@@bekeneel Lockheed Martin, just announced a production 50 kilowatt laser for short range defense against drones, artillery rounds and helicopter. Lockeed Martin delivered a 300 kilowatt prototype laser to the Army in June Raytheon has delivered a laser self defense system for NASAM and is also a major subcontractor for Kord Technology on a 50 kilowatt short range laser. Northrop Grumman has delivered a production 150-kilowatt LWSD systems to the Navy. Boeing delivered to the U.S Marines their Compact Laser Weapon System (CLWS) for defense against Drones and Mortars. So ahh how would it benefit the U.S Army, Navy, Marines or Air Force to collaborate with an entity that is just building proof of concepts. And I read last week that Raytheon, Lockheed-Martin and Northrop Grumman have 1 megawatt lasers in the prototype stage and will be ready for testing in 2023.
I think that in order to compensate for the reflectivity of the target and the vaporization and the dust in the atmosphere, it would be more realistic to be in the range of 1 MW because 95% of the energy will be lost. What they achieved is ideal in space. But is a good start , why not ?
if you mean cooperative targets, specially coated for absorbing the beam, maybe you are right. but this rarely happens in real situations. even a little polishing has strong reflection effects. and the target is moving. I did not say that it is not possible, but only improbable that that energy would be sufficient. in the end it will succeed, I'm sure. it's a promising start. given that it has other applications.
@@eugen-m Reflecting that kind of crazy power pointed at it? lol
such weapons have advanced focusing optics. the targets are not. it's about dispersion. even lasers have something like this that needs to be corrected. of course, if you want to shoot down ducks or drones, that's ok, even too much. but the big prize will be ballistic nuclear warheads or hypersonic weapons. there the situation is more complicated. they are surrounded due to friction by a cloud of plasma. plasma and light don't quite get along. plus another unwanted effect that absorbs a lot of energy. dust and clouds. who works with lasers, know what it's about. I'm sure that laser generates 50 kw continuously, if I'm not mistaken. with pulsed lasers, even 10 Mw can be reached for a few nanoseconds. plus any laser beam also has a mechanical effect. light has no rest mass but has momentum
2. there are great challenges. 70 years after the invention of the laser, we are still on the first step of an extremely long road. we do not have a compact and powerful energy source, only modular nuclear reactors can provide a solution. this is due to the low efficiency of the lasers. those 50 kw are optical energy, so to get them you need at least 500...1000 kw of electrical energy. plus optics. at such energy densities, lenses and optical fibers do not last very long i. nobody wants to change the lens after 3 shots with the laser! and as any weapon attracts countermeasures, this technology vacates the modification of the carrier vectors. they are metal-ceramic or other materials (aerogel, carbon) that can withstand extreme heat.
True.
starts @ 1:50
It will need a beam power several times 50 KW to be a practical weapon. It has to destroy the target in less than 1 second to be practical.
Also, I wonder if reflective materials covering the target (similar to a bathroom mirror) would redirect the laser energy away from the target, rendering this weapon virtually useless?
Good point Bill. I think laser weapons will have their place eventually. Also, I am a little bothered that no one seems to mention the considerable limitations imposed by weather conditions.
@@ridethecurve55 ah yes bill im sure youre smarter than the people literally building this new type of weapon.
It depends on the target and situation
@@roderickcampbell2105 It will be a better space weapon, for sure. We can't let the Terrans have all the killing of fun.
These weapons will always have a very limited surface range because they won't be able to hit anything over the horizon, no matter how accurate they are (unless the developers have found a way of bending the laser around the earth's curvature). Land/sea to air and vice versa pose no problems for long range capabilities, bearing in mind that the further the target, the more divergent is the laser beam.
Now you know why British War ships keep going into port to get fitted out with Dragonfire
Enjoyed your video so I gave it a Thumbs Up
I can see the narrator isn't familiar with UK prime contractors, it's pronounced "Kinetic" 😄
It's been 1yr, I knew it was a bluff 😅
It’ll end up being a torch
Will it work on rubber boats?
No but we will have 30mm Yorkshire pudding cannons for that.
... but no video footage of the laser in use.
if the targhet is a MIRROR the beam returns back destroing the source 🤦♀
Only to be reflected back again.... Isn't that how a laser works?????
The "Iron Beam"
You didn't mention what is needed to power Dragon Fire?
I am sure a ship can power it.
What about a large plane - like a C-130, or C-17?
What about a truck? Or a tank? A Humvee?
Not sure on the power,but it costs £10 per shot. The cost of running a small heater for an hour. About $15
Hmmm, can hit a pound coin? At what range? 3 meters? For how long? How fast was the pound coin moving, if at all? Dobn't have to give full classified information, but this is worse than no information!
I'm curious which country will use a laser from orbit to assassinate another country's head of state
United States of course
@@EatMyAzzOut probably be either NK or Iran
Death Star
Pew, Pew!
where on earth did you get this narrator from? It sounds like something of a Disney movie.! or should I say Muppet movie?
we will see mirror-chrome airplanes, drones, missiles and other military technology.
The U.K has already sent 20k troops to Europe, sent 12 billion to Ukraine and the second biggest giver to Ukraine in lethal military aid from any single country. Has done more than most and in many areas, more than the U.S which has stopped sending anything to Russian front. The U.K does need a much larger force that being said.
Cheaper? Does that mean we can spend more of our taxes improving our quality of life in the uk 😂
Can I play gta 6 before war starts
OMG 😂 I would love it if we could actually manufacture something worth having!!!
What was the last thing that actually done the job for us Properly??? Bloody Sea Harriers!!!
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since when are lasers invisible lmao
since like forever? is your only experience with lasers the dollar store cat toy? lol.
@@ha1ban3 just found out its infrared, calm down incel
@@Dautar748 projecting. hope you feel better soon, old man.
7:39 Britain needs to step up, you say.
Ummm, which other NATO countries have developed this technology to field readiness?
And how many of them have given it to Ukraine?
(To answer the first question, replace v=i_Y9M2v5z1g with v=WT3wjK9Jj6Q in the URL above.)
Ukraine really needs this technology located at its power stations and substations - the perfect location.
Also, given the PLAAF keeps sending up heaps of planes to circle Taiwan, Taiwan needs this technology too.
No , Britain needs to put this around it's own cities/ power stations / dams / military bases .. first and if Ukraine and Taiwan want to buy them. then they put in a request in to buy them ..
@@Pvt_Badger0916 that Britain needs to defend its infrastructure (& country) does not obviate the need for Ukraine and Taiwan to do the same.
@@abatesnz then they should put a request in to buy these systems ...
Ummm....I think the US has entered the chat ...
@@derrick4544 only a year late this time. I guess it cannot be a world war then.
Our defense sector and MPs sound more like the Russians Bragging about our amazing army and equipment!!!! Lucky Uncle Sam keeps an eye on us
Look to Ukraine,no bragging is needed
@@whatdoesntkillyoumakesyous6707
HVM 😂Saxon APCs 😂
mastiffs !!!!! Oh But we bought them from USA
Come on tell me what is so special about what U.K. makes that we’ve sent to ukraine!
@Ry Moe we made and sent the mastiffs to Ukraine, i know this because i build them. USA and UK look the same but are different in many ways. We also build ridgeback and wolfhound. So check your fact before slating someone else.
@@stevenprosser5495 oh ok! We bought all the materials and drawings from USA put a few mods on them and there now British. Bit like British meat red tractor British farmer supplied? We buy it from other countries do the final butchery and packaging in U.K. and suddenly it made in Britain 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This post is us about actual designing and producing something here in the U.K.! Like we were used to with the for example Sea harriers
I forgot to say we are supplying Brimstone missiles in small number which are a success in terms of MADE IN UK
@@stevenprosser5495 the point is! We shouldn’t lay on our laurels and accept assembling things in the U.K. is GOOD enough!!! We should innovate and use the expertise within the U.K. itself which makes full supply chain jobs aswel as sales and exports and not just keeping you happy in your assembly role. Just because your alright in your job
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