Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
@@rusty7984 No, he didn't "only get the role" because of his wife. He's a fucking POWERFUL actor and Garland was lucky to get him for those couple shooting days. His anonymity was on purpose for impact. Remember Tom Cruise uncredited in Tropic Thunder? Same thing.
As a military guy myself, the red sunglasses and no covers (hats) on the military guys, is the most unsettling. I would read this as "unhinged". Because, any military member who is answering to a chain of command would be in compliance with uniform regulations. Red sunglasses, and not wearing covers outside.... tells me I'm dealing with someone who is unconstrained.
I also found his body language very authentic. Like the way he holds his weapon especially just chilling with it, cradling it. Reminded me of what my buddies and I looked like, chilling on the range with our weapons like that. His character felt familiar but also a twisted version of it which made the performance hit different for me.
Another reason I love the fact he wears those glasses is that they make him seem kind of uncanny. Those glasses are ridiculous, he looks a bit like Elton John. The fact that a menacing character like him wears those glasses makes him feel even more unpredictable. You’d expect a guy like that to wear something… cooler. The fact he went for these is strangely unsettling
He probably needs them for Anchromatopsia, maybe he’s had it for a while and due to his eye wear he was teased and it played a role in alienating him. Total head cannon and speculation of course.
I think it's the opposite - he's wearing ridiculous sunglasses because he can, he's got the weaponry and is so confident that he doesn't care to wear something "cool."
I think the glasses is to suggest that he took them off one of his. victims in the pit. The movie is showing how most civil wars tend to devolve from professional militaries into armed gangs who murder and plunder.
@AssortedGamer696 When reviewing actual psychopathic behavior, Jesse's acting fits the bill perfectly. He's not some mustache-twirling bad guy doing bad things. He's the real deal. I relate his acting to the True Crime documentaries you see and hear about, where the psychopath acts like us, hidden in plain sight.
@@ragetobe Jesse Plemons' character perfectly embodies the bahaviour of approximately 99.9999% of Americans in the event of a collapse of law and order. Meanwhile, here in my country, Australia, which is a population of people who believe in acting in unison for the greater good of the proleteriat and not the bourgeoisie, we would barely notice any difference in day-to-day life if the world fell apart. We'd just be baffled and shocked at the reports over shortwave radio about what the North Americans are doing to each other with all their guns...
I believe he literally did it as a favour for his wife (Kirsten Dunst) who asked on behalf of Alex Garland after the original actor dropped out - wild!
There is another important but subtle detail in the scene that only an Army Veteran would pick up on. Jesse's character is wearing a patch over his heart called the Combat Infantryman's Badge or CIB for short. This coveted patch is worn only by infantry veterans who have been in a firefight. Only infantrymen and Green Berets can wear it. This means Jesse's character is likely a hardened combat veteran and killer. US Army soldiers wear unit patches, skill patches and tabs on their combat uniform. Throughout the film, I looked for these patches on the soldiers' uniforms. Only Jesse's character, in all the film, wears a skill patch and it is the CIB. It's a subtle bit of detail that makes him even more menacing.
I always found it weird how awards worked. Kinda silly that someone can be in the same firefight and not be awarded. Granted it is specific to infantry even in name. Similar to how Cavalry get the stetson, spurs and saber and dress blues. At least that's how it was when I served. I think I've heard the Army gives blues out to anyone anymore.
@@tj7094 You weren't the only one who thought it was silly. So the Army fixed that problem during OIF/OEF. Not sure when you served but today, everyone can get the equivalent of a CIB. The new award is called the Combat Action Badge (CAB) and looks similar to a CIB but with a bayonet instead of a rifle. The awardee must have been in a firefight and that must be documented by the person putting them in for the award. There is also the equivalent of the EIB for non-infantry called the Expert Soldier Badge (ESB) with a bayonet instead of the infantry musket.
Alternate take; he could have stolen that uniform from someone who was a veteran. He's clearly of a military background, but his callousness towards civilians is- Wait, nevermind, he probably is a veteran then.
@@SSD_PenumbraHad the same thought. It’s less about the character himself being some unstoppable force of nature, more so commentary on what a soldier’s uniform is and represents. The rifle he carries is what makes him ultimately dangerous, and whether he’s a hardened veteran or not, he’s a dumbass xenophobe and a lethal threat to the main characters cause of it.
@@mjelves Eh, kinda. If a reference to the rose-tinted glasses expression, this guy wears them because he has a mythical, probably white supremacist vision of America that never was. Alternatively, red tinted glasses because he's literally seeing red, high on murder.
@@mjelves it's very close, and colloquially equivalent. Rose tinted glasses is usually used in a historical context, but it basically amounts to having a voluntary filter
Only scene that I honestly said to myself, "okay that makes sense". Everyone else made no sense, like you can tell the director just filmed in the cheapest locations to save money - an abandoned JC Penney Parking Lot, an old graffitied up stadium, an abandoned IBM office building vacant since the 1980's, lazy lazy work. The last 15 minutes was good though, you can tell they put the entire budget into those last 15 minutes.
I thought his red shades were supposed to be an allegory for "rose tinted glasses" which is why his questions didnt care about whether or not they were a different ethnic American AS LONG as they were American, which is why he shot the foreigner
Did anyone notice that the scene takes place immediately after they visit the odd peaceful town that seems unaffected by the war? Jesse's character is the reason the town is peacefull he killed all the people who were not with the program.
@MylesKillis could be, but the director definitely implied that the town was unsettling. As far as the storie goes, it makes more sense for the locals to be under the thumb of a group of military personnel. The people are meant to represent victims of war and / or enabling for self-interest. happens all the time in war.
Makes me think of the book Ishmael when it hypothesizes the potential success and beyond of the Nazis, and how even in a hypothetically perfect society scraped clean of its history, 2 people would agree at least that something was wrong...
He has been shooting his gun without any ear protection… so perhaps with obvious hearing loss and his focus on the group combined, he was caught off guard until it was too late.
The detail for me that is MOST striking is he's the only character in the movie rocking a CIB (Combat Infantryman's Badge). It's one of the most coveted things an infantryman can wear, It's the only badge that really "matters" in the infantry world aside from the EIB (Expert Infantryman's Badge). The EIB doesn't have the wreath and denotes that you passed a series of 40 tests to prove you know HOW to infantry. The CIB denotes that you HAVE. He's not some militia LARPer. What I see is a professional killer out in the sticks not wearing any headgear or body armor, no name tapes, nothing but a CIB and some unidentifiable unit or motivational patch on the left shoulder. This tells me a few things, he's real Army, he's infantry, he's been in combat before, he's way outta regs, and he is actively committing a war crime. Now this movie from the opening scene on is just one big parade of war crimes, something I assume most folks lack a frame of reference for and why this scene feels so out of nowhere for many. But that said, this is still like one of the WORST. Mass graves imply extra judicial mass killings, and those sure don't look like soldiers in that hole. Personally, I think he's either a psycho vet or part of some unit that just got stretched too thin and left out in the sticks with no real command or support until they flipped. I've seen that shit happen for real. Had one guy in our unit off himself in a port-o-john, had some guys in our sister battalion commit one of the worst war crimes of the entire Iraq war literally just down the road from us. Saw the smoke from the house as it burned. I'm glad they're rotting in prison for it too. This character exemplifies everything wrong with the actual military, the gung-ho grunt trained to the highest caliber who completely ran out of fucks to give out there unsupervised and unhinged, completely forgetting their role beyond the killing part. It's literally one of the scariest things you can run into on the battlefield. You can bet your ass I wouldn't be anywhere near anyone in uniform dumping bodies regardless of which side they're on. That's a WHOLE lotta nope, even for me as a combat infantry vet.
Jesse doesn't just change how he's holding his rifle and put his finger on the trigger, you can also see and hear him flipping the selector from SAFE to FIRE. The hiking joke immediately put that guy in a killing mood. He was almost certainly intending to kill all the witnesses to the mass grave regardless, but for whatever reason, joking around set him off. Maybe he felt he wasn't being respected/feared enough if the guy is cracking jokes, hence the intimidation and torment that followed. Or maybe he immediately got suspicious because of the evasive answer from a guy with an odd accent, accompanied by a couple of obvious foreigners. He clearly doesn't like China, which we know for a fact would interfere in any civil war in America with sabotage, selling arms to different factions, or outright invading US territories while the military is distracted and divided. It would be fascinating to get more of an in-depth look into what faction, if any, Jesse and his men belong to and what their motivations are. I keep seeing speculation that he's some kind of white supremacist (hence killing the two Asian guys), but considering most of the bodies going into that mass grave are white, I don't think that's what he is. They have no insignia identifying which army they're with, no rank, no hats/helmets (which often have rank displayed on them), and are dumping a lot of bodies in a mass grave in the middle of nowhere. Assuming they didn't go rogue (unlikely, given the clean uniforms and haircuts, which no AWOL or defector is going to maintain), the faction they belong to clearly doesn't want to be associated with this particular war crime. Thus, no matter what they said or did, it's almost a foregone conclusion that none of the journalists would have gotten out of there alive if not for last minute interference.
it's especially tragic considering that most of Hong Kong wants nothing to do with China and the Hong Kong character probably would've agreed with Plemons character about China's sins.
Sorry but fascists remove all that oppose regardless of origin and in the middle of nowhere the dissidents are less likely to be minorities. Read up on project 2025 or listen to any far right commentators if you have doubts as to whom they were referencing.
@@tcaprecap1448 You're expecting nuance from a guy wearing ski glasses to a mass grave he doesn't want witnesses to speak about. But yes, most Hong Kongers dislike China and would rather be British/independent.
The full line, "What kind of American are you? South American? Central American?" alludes to an entirely anti-foreigner stance, not just anti-China. And I believe he likely asks it because this random guy interrupting his business looks Latino. He's itching to shoot anyone remotely not US-American. As for the joke setting him off, it may have to do with the fact Joel unwisely pulls his leg, answering his question with BS and therefore disrespecting the authority the zealot intends to project.
@@Swindle1984 The scene implies they're government troops. Up until this point in the movie, most of the heinous acts have been done by the federal government. Given the military haircuts and standard issue gear, they probably were tasked with clearing an area of rebels.
5:27 Another part of that gun readjustment is that he quickly flicks his finger, turning off the safety. You can hear the faint click of the switch. It's unlikely to be the switch for rate of fire, so it's most likely the safety.
What the fuck is a "switch for rate of fire"? That's an m4 the safety switch is the fire selector switch as well, if that's what you mean. There is no switch turning your firerate from let's say 650 rpm to 900
@@viktortultukov4098 Might be referring to switching from semi- auto to full auto But I'm not one to say anything since I only know about guns through games.
You have must not have shot a rifle that times without hearing protection. After the first few shots you can not hear a lot of sounds other then the ringing in your own ears. Depending on the wind and the tension in the area hearing an approaching vehicle may have been difficult if you were concentrating on something else.
@@patreilly1458 An SUV on a dirt road, and NO ONE heard it or saw it or more importantly, saw the good guys who would have seen it coming react accordingly? Theres a reaso. That "pretend somethig is behind them" trick exists. We're reactionary predators. I should notice you noticing something at minimum, basically.
That’s a common trope in movies. How many times have you heard a plane or helicopter zoom into a scene without any forewarning? It happens all the time.
I never realized this but he has a CIB stiched onto his uniform meaning he went overseas and deployed as an Infantryman so hes probably been in the military for a while likely a Senior NCO and the guys with him are his joes
I did like how in the film California and Texas joined up. Made me think things got so bad that two states who pretty much hate each other put their differences aside just to take out the current president. I also like how the presidents leadership wasn’t really shown. Left everything to your imagination and I wish more films did that.
Some people dont like how they were "allies" saying that the two states would never team up, but it really is more of a "we both hate the federal government, so we'll work together and then go our separate ways". People forget that it was California and some other western states working alongside Texas and some other southeastern states, not just California and Texas being best buddies
Plemons has that Philip Seymour Hoffman edge to him in this scene. Looking slightly dull, but at the same time giving off an air of insanity and menace.
one of the most intense scenes of the movie (thought it was kind of an average flick, title really didn't align with the theme of the movie). What stood out to me about this specific scene is how in the world he wouldn't hear or see the vehicle barreling his way to run him over. He's moving around, aware of his surroundings, yet here comes an enormous SUV to mow him down? Didn't make sense to me
Typical bad writing from the current generation of writers, they put the protaganists in a corner there was no realistic or easy way to get them out of in this scene so the writers pulled that nonsense out of thin air. Having a local armed group that is oppossed to the gun men's group come out and smoke him then take custody of the protaganists would have made more sense and pushed the story along.
As good as this scene may be, it fails because of the movie it is in. For a believable character to exist, they need to be a member of a world that is believable. They could have written the most relevant, interesting and well acted character ever, the fact that he exists in a world where California and Texas are allies in a civil war makes the whole thing ridiculous.
They're hardly "allies". Its more so "we both hate the federal government, so we're working together to kick its ass before we go our separate ways". Kinda like how the USSR was our "ally" in WWII, the enemy of my enemy is my friend
Not really… California and Texas both hate the federal government because they constantly attempt to tell those state how to do things. So it’s not unrealistic for them to team up together even temporarily to fight the big bad.
Anyone thought that the red glasses (which look pretty cheap btw) could've been taken from one of the victims and worn as "a joke" since he was fucking around with his buddy? that type of soldier that uses war to "have fun" on his psychotic tendencies, to me it says that the conflict s all a big block party for him, like a Purge character...
This guy Plemons is one of these actors, rare indeed, he is always different but not with OTT acting or gestures, just by being - he really is one to watch - I hope he has a stellar career and he clearly deserves it... nice post BTW on the camera angles
The red shades, to me, evoke the stories of the Liberian civil war, where you had images of child soldiers running around, high as f*ck, wearing feather boas, wigs and other crazy-ass regalia, putting the fear of god in hardened combat reporters.
Its a brilliant and chilling scene. And when you know that simmons and Dunst are married in real life it just goes to show what amazing actors they are, and what a preformance. One of my favorites
I liked your deconstruction of the framing and camera angles at the start, the positioning reference and the characterisation of the character developed your points well.
@@OsirisThaMystikal It was a good movie IF you understood going into it that it was a social commentary and not an action movie with heroes saving the day. This is the guy who made Ex Machina and Men. If you're familiar with his work, you knew what to expect. I watched lots of critical reviews, understood what kind of movie it was going to be, and went in expecting this. It's a really good movie.
It's not a crime to like the movie, but nobody's required to like it. I was alright with it, I just wish it was explained when and how the states seceded.
People who complain "Texas and California would never be allies!" completely miss the point of the film. It's a *war* movie, not a political one. It doesn't need to tell you the entire history of the country up until that point, the war is a setting for the the story that takes place. Did Saving Private Ryan have to explain how Japan pulled the US into WW2? Same for Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse now etc. The story isn't about the war, it's about what these people experienced at this point in the war. Sam Esmail (the creator of Mr Robot) once said: ”I don’t care about plot. Point of view is everything. When I say “tone” that’s where I think that comes from. The world and everything around them are the details that enriches that.”
Jesse Plemons CHARACTER is NOT an unhinged Zealot. He is standing over a mass grave, probably his dead family and neighbors killed by the INVADING WESTERN FORCE. Imagine his state of mind. The Western Forces are those INVADERS that are NOT FROM California and Texas. They are the "IMMIGRANTS" which crossed over the BORDERS of Texas to California. They are THE INVADERS. Why did Jesse Plemons CHARACTER kill the Chinese? Because the COMMUNISTS CHINESE PARTY IS behind the ATTACK OF THE UNITED STATES, through their surrogates of the WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM (WEF). This film is nothing but a propaganda film FOR THE ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES PEOPLE! Jesse Plemons says it righty so, "WHAT KIND OF AMERICAN ARE YOU?!" Are you in alliance with the CCP/WEF, or are you an AMERICAN PATRIOT?!
Texas and California were allies to bring down a common enemy. I could totally see two different cultures, social and political, uniting together against a tyrannical authority figure. Plus both states are the largest in the contiguous US, and honestly Texas is becoming pretty blue politically, especially in the densely populated cities/burbs. It's just the numerous rural parts of Texas that throw off the scale. I honestly think all the Southern & Western boundary states would form an alliance together, with the Loyalist states taking up the East coast and parts of the Midwest. The Florida alliance and Western Forces probably wouldn't have fucked with California or Texas, and in the film they probably would have allied with each other.
The Texas California alliance in the film was to keep the audience from picking sides and focus on the horror of the situation. It’s not about conservatives vs liberals. It’s a facist President giving himself a third term and ruling the nation with an iron fist. Why wouldn’t Texas and California find common ground in that?
The person crawling on the dead bodies in the pit reminds me of Owen Wilson’s character in the movie “behind enemy lines” about the Baltic war during the 90’s
I think this scene was amazing because Plemmons didn't seem threatening but clearly was. There's a disjunct. This is why people are scared of psychopaths. They don't seem dangerous and they are at the same time. He shot two people and had no emotional response. That he could do that and feel nothing is the scary element.
The whole premise was dumb. These idiots were travelling cross country completely helpless in a time of actual civil war. The only real assets they had were their vehicles and Canadian dollars. Otherwise they were completely helpless. It was a suicide mission from the first minute. There were so many unrealistic and non-sensical things mixed in with some real truth that I couldn't get into the movie or put myself in the character's positions.
@@BigTomInTheBasement Just putting it out there that people do this sort of thing all of the time. Medical doctors from the US with wonderful lives flood into warzones just to help people, knowing that they are risking their lives. Journalists also do some crazy things for the story/photos.
@@gafee2001 doctors and journalists usually go in with support or embedded. They also can get out of serious trouble bc they have safe home to get to after they rotate out. These bozos went in with nothing. No support. No weapons, no where to back out to.
@@BigTomInTheBasement if you aren't aware of what exactly journalists do, I suggest you take a good guess as to where a lot of footage from World War II comes from. Might I also add Ukraine as well.
Journalist carrying weapons automatically make them combatants, not war correspondents. It makes sense with inside the logic of the movie. what doesn't make sense to the fact that they were joyriding like a bunch of high schoolers beforehand in an active war zone, regardless of the profession's reckless reputation.
Plemmons' character is also the quintessential bully (and as such timeless and detached from issues of today) - the other characters talk as if talk mattered, as if talk could resolve the situation, as if anyhting they or even Plemmons' character say mattered - while for the bully it's just random babbling (while the "China" thing may feel pertinent, for the other victim "colleague" was enough to kill, for instance), background noise to the power trip.
The scary part is how many people genuinely find that scene scary. So many people nowadays are naive and ignorant of realities and cruelty of life, that even the idea of something like this terrifies them.
Cruelty of life ? If you said "the cruelty of wars" instead them maybe or elaborated on "life" WHERE perhaps because in the country I live in last time there was a guy that decided to shoot innocent people dead because of their religion/skin color it was a national tragedy that led to massive legal reforms about firearms ownership and other things and there have only ever been 3 mass shootings here. Because I can tell you for certain that outside of some areas in the USA and countries that are in active war zones most people do not have to worry about encountering people like this character when going out for groceries.
The problem with people is that we always place ourselves into the shoes of the victims. We want to empathize with the characters. Yet that's where your feelings of fear and dread come from. If you place yourself into the shoes of the bad guy. Well. Then its an entirely different experience.
depends on what you consider modern cinema, most recent movies are kinda boring, what do you consider terrifying that came out in the last 5 years or so?
Beat me to it. That meme is exactly what I thought of when I saw this video. But in all seriousness this movie was horrible, and people acting like it’s some genius revealing piece of art just isn’t true. “Civil War” I believe is what the title is called, somehow manages to scream loudly about division yet say nothing to actually address or dissect it- for an entire movie’s runtime. Gets old real fast.
This is the best line in the movie but I kind of hated how it played out. ⚠️ SPOILER “North American? South America? …” Seeing this in the trailer I thought the question was asking what side of the war they were on. From there maybe we see a deeper understanding of how the sides view each other, especially the military. The follow up was a bit of a let down in my first viewing. Now thinking about this scene more, his character didn’t care. He would have killed them all eventually, look what they were doing. This question was meant to stoke fear and keep the audience at the edge of their seats. It worked.
I’ve watched this movie twice and it is terrifying. I skipped this scene on the rewatch. Well acted and scary. One of the best movies I’ve seen in a long time but really uncomfortable to watch
1:55 Are you sure that putting him on the left has some sort of psychological significance. I would have said it was a simple cinematic choice so that a right handed shooter always has his weapon unobscured and towards camera. The other way around you wouldn't be able to see the weapon other than front on. 🤔
@@Miclantechupi it’s a common technique many directors employ if the scene calls for it. Whether it was a deliberate specific choice by Alex Garland the director, im not too sure.
@@fromthescreen123I know the clip of the bearded guy disarming the black guy is actual footage from real protests. The bearded dude has a UA-cam channel. “Weapon Snatcher”
Last month people were saying possibility of civil war broke out in Britain. That didn't happen. They don't have as many guns as United States. This movie has created certain effects on American people.
They were fear mongering unfortunately, there was nowhere near enough disorder created by the government to allow for something like that to happen. They tried pretty hard to make it happen though, why keir starmer was trying to hype up the rioters and make them angrier, even went as far as trying to start off the violence in Ireland aswell, thankfully they failed.
The movie didn't spur americans, the USA right wing fearmongering that civil war is around the corner for more than a literal decade made this movie. Moreso now that multiple right wingers are shown and proven to be paid to spout RU talking points. Of which includes stoking right wing into thinking civil war is around the corner
03:55 Subtle. Check the trigger discipline between the two shots on Plemons character. At first there's a full shot where trigger discipline is shown, next shot there is no dicipline with finger on the trigger.
my only issue with this movie is there wasn't more scenes like this. They showed this off in the trailer and made it seem like the movie would cut deeply at what Americans truly believe and yet it felt short of that. Worldbuilding is a huge thing to me and seeing the lack of it in this movie makes me want more. I want to know why each side fights. the scenes of soldiers getting bogged down and fighting is what I want to see. The lack of that turned me away from this film. This scene while great in terms of presentation is terrible in the hindsight of accuracy and motive. Showing one side to be entirely evil and non redeemable makes the movie feel less like a modern civil war and more of a rebellion against a corrupt government.
This is as close to Todd Alquist as Jesse has got recently. Nobody does deadpan menace better. Dude reminds me a lot of Philip Seymore Hoffman in that way.
Actually, it is. During the Vietnam war, US photographer, the son of actor Erol Flynn, was in Cambodia, home of the Khmer Rouge, when he came across the empty American car of another photographer just sitting in the road. He got out and approached some soldiers who marched him off into the forest. He was never seen again. While this movie is just a colage of events tossed together willynilly, most events are based in some situation that happens during civil wars. It's a movie about war journalist. Not really about the war itself.
Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
My favourite comment on this video 👏🏽
wow i was thinking the same thing.
Sorry, his knee was down...
huh?
@@orangewarm1 You must be born after 1985.
He wasn’t even supposed to be in this movie and yet he’s the most iconic part
Did they pick him at the last minute?
@@Dave_of_Mordor
More or less yeah. Only reason he got the role is cause he was married to one of the main characters actress. But damn did he deliver
@@rusty7984 No, he didn't "only get the role" because of his wife. He's a fucking POWERFUL actor and Garland was lucky to get him for those couple shooting days. His anonymity was on purpose for impact. Remember Tom Cruise uncredited in Tropic Thunder? Same thing.
@@DerechteAlbrechtDürer
My comment is a bit of an understatement. He’s is 100% a gifted actor but this role was super last minute apparently
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As a military guy myself, the red sunglasses and no covers (hats) on the military guys, is the most unsettling. I would read this as "unhinged". Because, any military member who is answering to a chain of command would be in compliance with uniform regulations. Red sunglasses, and not wearing covers outside.... tells me I'm dealing with someone who is unconstrained.
Welcome to the militia.
I also found his body language very authentic. Like the way he holds his weapon especially just chilling with it, cradling it. Reminded me of what my buddies and I looked like, chilling on the range with our weapons like that. His character felt familiar but also a twisted version of it which made the performance hit different for me.
That's because you're a pog
Red sunglasses tells me that he can't see blood in contrast to everything else
@@davidmarkleinbro you beat me to it! Bunch of POGS!!!
Another reason I love the fact he wears those glasses is that they make him seem kind of uncanny. Those glasses are ridiculous, he looks a bit like Elton John. The fact that a menacing character like him wears those glasses makes him feel even more unpredictable. You’d expect a guy like that to wear something… cooler. The fact he went for these is strangely unsettling
He probably needs them for Anchromatopsia, maybe he’s had it for a while and due to his eye wear he was teased and it played a role in alienating him. Total head cannon and speculation of course.
I think it's the opposite - he's wearing ridiculous sunglasses because he can, he's got the weaponry and is so confident that he doesn't care to wear something "cool."
@@tcaprecap1448 Very true, it makes him more unsettling either way
I think the glasses is to suggest that he took them off one of his. victims in the pit.
The movie is showing how most civil wars
tend to devolve from professional militaries
into armed gangs who murder and plunder.
They make red tinted glasses for chickens because if they see blood they go batshit.
Jesse Plemons came into Breaking Bad in the last season and quickly became the most hated bad because he was by far the most realistic and relatable.
Relatable? Who tf related to his character??
This isn’t even close to true, Jessie plays the same character pretty much in breaking bad, it’s not even close to relatable unless you are a psycho.
I’m sorry, what? How was he relatable
@AssortedGamer696 When reviewing actual psychopathic behavior, Jesse's acting fits the bill perfectly. He's not some mustache-twirling bad guy doing bad things.
He's the real deal. I relate his acting to the True Crime documentaries you see and hear about, where the psychopath acts like us, hidden in plain sight.
@@ragetobe Jesse Plemons' character perfectly embodies the bahaviour of approximately 99.9999% of Americans in the event of a collapse of law and order. Meanwhile, here in my country, Australia, which is a population of people who believe in acting in unison for the greater good of the proleteriat and not the bourgeoisie, we would barely notice any difference in day-to-day life if the world fell apart. We'd just be baffled and shocked at the reports over shortwave radio about what the North Americans are doing to each other with all their guns...
Can't believe Jesse Plemons wasn't even credited in this movie.
I believe he literally did it as a favour for his wife (Kirsten Dunst) who asked on behalf of Alex Garland after the original actor dropped out - wild!
Why? not realy a hard part to play.
Maybe he saw it and decided he really didn't want his name on this dumpster fire.
@@bafumat His apearance sold this movie.
hes def in the credits..
Jesse Plemons has to be one of the most underrated amazing actors. He's killed (no pun intended) every role I've seen him in.
100% agree
this is the first time I've seen anyone describe Plemons as underrated
He's actually so good at playing terrible people that my dad doesn't like him cause he associates him with his character in breaking bad😂
Breaking bad. 'Nuff said.
@@jmbmntis You're spot on, I've only ever heard people give Jesse his flowers, I honestly don't think people know what underrated means anymore.
There is another important but subtle detail in the scene that only an Army Veteran would pick up on. Jesse's character is wearing a patch over his heart called the Combat Infantryman's Badge or CIB for short. This coveted patch is worn only by infantry veterans who have been in a firefight. Only infantrymen and Green Berets can wear it. This means Jesse's character is likely a hardened combat veteran and killer. US Army soldiers wear unit patches, skill patches and tabs on their combat uniform. Throughout the film, I looked for these patches on the soldiers' uniforms. Only Jesse's character, in all the film, wears a skill patch and it is the CIB.
It's a subtle bit of detail that makes him even more menacing.
@@GhostRanger5060 ooo thanks for pointing that out, awesome little detail 👏🏽
I always found it weird how awards worked. Kinda silly that someone can be in the same firefight and not be awarded. Granted it is specific to infantry even in name. Similar to how Cavalry get the stetson, spurs and saber and dress blues. At least that's how it was when I served. I think I've heard the Army gives blues out to anyone anymore.
@@tj7094 You weren't the only one who thought it was silly. So the Army fixed that problem during OIF/OEF. Not sure when you served but today, everyone can get the equivalent of a CIB. The new award is called the Combat Action Badge (CAB) and looks similar to a CIB but with a bayonet instead of a rifle. The awardee must have been in a firefight and that must be documented by the person putting them in for the award. There is also the equivalent of the EIB for non-infantry called the Expert Soldier Badge (ESB) with a bayonet instead of the infantry musket.
Alternate take; he could have stolen that uniform from someone who was a veteran. He's clearly of a military background, but his callousness towards civilians is-
Wait, nevermind, he probably is a veteran then.
@@SSD_PenumbraHad the same thought. It’s less about the character himself being some unstoppable force of nature, more so commentary on what a soldier’s uniform is and represents. The rifle he carries is what makes him ultimately dangerous, and whether he’s a hardened veteran or not, he’s a dumbass xenophobe and a lethal threat to the main characters cause of it.
he only did this role out of a favor for his wife. and he stole this fuckin movie
Not a difficult movie to steal. It's a pretty fkn schett movie.
Because outside of this scene this movie is pretty garbo
@@mrg4388 not wrong lol
@@SlayerPDX true
@@SlayerPDX is it atleast worth watching type of garbage or just full on avoid garbage
Crazy that Plemmons wasn’t supposed to do it, but the actual actor couldn’t make it and he was just visiting Dunst, his wife, on set
Well, he was ready to execute his wife...she is from Honky Kongy... LOL
Wow, thank you.
Rose tinted glasses...another way of saying "I see what I want to see and nothing else."
Red Hat glasses
That's not what "rose tinted glasses" mean
@@mjelves Eh, kinda. If a reference to the rose-tinted glasses expression, this guy wears them because he has a mythical, probably white supremacist vision of America that never was. Alternatively, red tinted glasses because he's literally seeing red, high on murder.
@@mjelves it's very close, and colloquially equivalent. Rose tinted glasses is usually used in a historical context, but it basically amounts to having a voluntary filter
@@Freshbrood TDS comment
You know Garland made this film for just this scene.
It’s the only scene in the movie that doesn’t feel empty and pointless imo.
Only scene that I honestly said to myself, "okay that makes sense". Everyone else made no sense, like you can tell the director just filmed in the cheapest locations to save money - an abandoned JC Penney Parking Lot, an old graffitied up stadium, an abandoned IBM office building vacant since the 1980's, lazy lazy work. The last 15 minutes was good though, you can tell they put the entire budget into those last 15 minutes.
Pretty much.
It's like you're living on a diet of lead paint chips.
He made this film because Barrack Obama paid him to.
I thought his red shades were supposed to be an allegory for "rose tinted glasses" which is why his questions didnt care about whether or not they were a different ethnic American AS LONG as they were American, which is why he shot the foreigner
Yeah, that’s silly. There’s no, uh, allegory.
@@orangebean325 damn, your right. worst word choice,... but still that was like my actual thought
@@justinneal4661nah it’s a pretty good thought, it works
They're MAGAt shades, like the Red Hats.
MAGA shades? A Republican wouldn't shoot someone from Hong Kong. They'd know that most Chinese from Hong Kong want independence ;)
Did anyone notice that the scene takes place immediately after they visit the odd peaceful town that seems unaffected by the war? Jesse's character is the reason the town is peacefull he killed all the people who were not with the program.
@@haydon-ge8dt interesting 🤔 Never thought of that
Or the guys who keep people like him out maintained peace there
@MylesKillis could be, but the director definitely implied that the town was unsettling. As far as the storie goes, it makes more sense for the locals to be under the thumb of a group of military personnel. The people are meant to represent victims of war and / or enabling for self-interest. happens all the time in war.
Makes me think of the book Ishmael when it hypothesizes the potential success and beyond of the Nazis, and how even in a hypothetically perfect society scraped clean of its history, 2 people would agree at least that something was wrong...
@@haydon-ge8dt unsettling does not equal racist murdering tyrants. It means unsettling.
And then a stealth assault truck from the upside-down saves them.
@Dan-t8y yes I thought the same thing when watching 😂 It’s quiet until it’s right there behind them
From a stressful moment turned into cartooney quick.
🙃
@Dan-t8y I didn't feel it ruined the scene, but yeah, it's a pretty heavy-handed deus ex machina.
He has been shooting his gun without any ear protection… so perhaps with obvious hearing loss and his focus on the group combined, he was caught off guard until it was too late.
The detail for me that is MOST striking is he's the only character in the movie rocking a CIB (Combat Infantryman's Badge). It's one of the most coveted things an infantryman can wear, It's the only badge that really "matters" in the infantry world aside from the EIB (Expert Infantryman's Badge). The EIB doesn't have the wreath and denotes that you passed a series of 40 tests to prove you know HOW to infantry. The CIB denotes that you HAVE. He's not some militia LARPer. What I see is a professional killer out in the sticks not wearing any headgear or body armor, no name tapes, nothing but a CIB and some unidentifiable unit or motivational patch on the left shoulder. This tells me a few things, he's real Army, he's infantry, he's been in combat before, he's way outta regs, and he is actively committing a war crime. Now this movie from the opening scene on is just one big parade of war crimes, something I assume most folks lack a frame of reference for and why this scene feels so out of nowhere for many. But that said, this is still like one of the WORST. Mass graves imply extra judicial mass killings, and those sure don't look like soldiers in that hole. Personally, I think he's either a psycho vet or part of some unit that just got stretched too thin and left out in the sticks with no real command or support until they flipped. I've seen that shit happen for real. Had one guy in our unit off himself in a port-o-john, had some guys in our sister battalion commit one of the worst war crimes of the entire Iraq war literally just down the road from us. Saw the smoke from the house as it burned. I'm glad they're rotting in prison for it too. This character exemplifies everything wrong with the actual military, the gung-ho grunt trained to the highest caliber who completely ran out of fucks to give out there unsupervised and unhinged, completely forgetting their role beyond the killing part. It's literally one of the scariest things you can run into on the battlefield. You can bet your ass I wouldn't be anywhere near anyone in uniform dumping bodies regardless of which side they're on. That's a WHOLE lotta nope, even for me as a combat infantry vet.
Jesse doesn't just change how he's holding his rifle and put his finger on the trigger, you can also see and hear him flipping the selector from SAFE to FIRE. The hiking joke immediately put that guy in a killing mood. He was almost certainly intending to kill all the witnesses to the mass grave regardless, but for whatever reason, joking around set him off. Maybe he felt he wasn't being respected/feared enough if the guy is cracking jokes, hence the intimidation and torment that followed. Or maybe he immediately got suspicious because of the evasive answer from a guy with an odd accent, accompanied by a couple of obvious foreigners. He clearly doesn't like China, which we know for a fact would interfere in any civil war in America with sabotage, selling arms to different factions, or outright invading US territories while the military is distracted and divided.
It would be fascinating to get more of an in-depth look into what faction, if any, Jesse and his men belong to and what their motivations are. I keep seeing speculation that he's some kind of white supremacist (hence killing the two Asian guys), but considering most of the bodies going into that mass grave are white, I don't think that's what he is. They have no insignia identifying which army they're with, no rank, no hats/helmets (which often have rank displayed on them), and are dumping a lot of bodies in a mass grave in the middle of nowhere. Assuming they didn't go rogue (unlikely, given the clean uniforms and haircuts, which no AWOL or defector is going to maintain), the faction they belong to clearly doesn't want to be associated with this particular war crime. Thus, no matter what they said or did, it's almost a foregone conclusion that none of the journalists would have gotten out of there alive if not for last minute interference.
it's especially tragic considering that most of Hong Kong wants nothing to do with China and the Hong Kong character probably would've agreed with Plemons character about China's sins.
Sorry but fascists remove all that oppose regardless of origin and in the middle of nowhere the dissidents are less likely to be minorities.
Read up on project 2025 or listen to any far right commentators if you have doubts as to whom they were referencing.
@@tcaprecap1448 You're expecting nuance from a guy wearing ski glasses to a mass grave he doesn't want witnesses to speak about. But yes, most Hong Kongers dislike China and would rather be British/independent.
The full line, "What kind of American are you? South American? Central American?" alludes to an entirely anti-foreigner stance, not just anti-China. And I believe he likely asks it because this random guy interrupting his business looks Latino. He's itching to shoot anyone remotely not US-American.
As for the joke setting him off, it may have to do with the fact Joel unwisely pulls his leg, answering his question with BS and therefore disrespecting the authority the zealot intends to project.
@@Swindle1984 The scene implies they're government troops. Up until this point in the movie, most of the heinous acts have been done by the federal government.
Given the military haircuts and standard issue gear, they probably were tasked with clearing an area of rebels.
5:27 Another part of that gun readjustment is that he quickly flicks his finger, turning off the safety. You can hear the faint click of the switch.
It's unlikely to be the switch for rate of fire, so it's most likely the safety.
So true! Great spotting
Shut up
What the fuck is a "switch for rate of fire"? That's an m4 the safety switch is the fire selector switch as well, if that's what you mean.
There is no switch turning your firerate from let's say 650 rpm to 900
@@viktortultukov4098 Might be referring to switching from semi- auto to full auto
But I'm not one to say anything since I only know about guns through games.
You people shouldn't be talking about things you don't know about.
The most unrealistic part about this whole scene: *"they didn't hear the SUV barreling down on them... in an open field?"*
You have must not have shot a rifle that times without hearing protection. After the first few shots you can not hear a lot of sounds other then the ringing in your own ears. Depending on the wind and the tension in the area hearing an approaching vehicle may have been difficult if you were concentrating on something else.
@@patreilly1458 An SUV on a dirt road, and NO ONE heard it or saw it or more importantly, saw the good guys who would have seen it coming react accordingly?
Theres a reaso. That "pretend somethig is behind them" trick exists. We're reactionary predators. I should notice you noticing something at minimum, basically.
I agree and the excuses about not wearing hearing protection is a hard cope.
@@patreilly1458I shot an M240B in the army without hearing protection. I could still hear shit lol.
That’s a common trope in movies. How many times have you heard a plane or helicopter zoom into a scene without any forewarning? It happens all the time.
Red tinted glasses, and a red dot optic. Lmao.
It could be blue or green dot, also red glasses don’t affect a red dot sight.
You can see the red dot just fine.
Also sun/glare glasses despite the colour displayed on the outside most often give a whole different colour on the inside.
Never wore sun glasses?
It's a holographic optic not a red dot they're two different things
That’s an EOtech XPS3 they come in green also
Nobody does casual psychopath like ol’ dead eye Opie.
@@DarkeningSkies1 100% 😂 he’s so good at it
I never realized this but he has a CIB stiched onto his uniform meaning he went overseas and deployed as an Infantryman so hes probably been in the military for a while likely a Senior NCO and the guys with him are his joes
It means he not only went and deployed, it means he fought.
@@seanl7856 bro I knew guys with CIBs that sat on Bagram and did tower gaurd for a year.
@@DiseasedPopeno I know guys with CIB's who have no legs. What's your point?
@@seanl7856if you missed his point then you’re not very bright
@@HeyYaaaaaaaa If you missed mine, you're not worth talking to. POG
I did like how in the film California and Texas joined up. Made me think things got so bad that two states who pretty much hate each other put their differences aside just to take out the current president. I also like how the presidents leadership wasn’t really shown. Left everything to your imagination and I wish more films did that.
Some people dont like how they were "allies" saying that the two states would never team up, but it really is more of a "we both hate the federal government, so we'll work together and then go our separate ways". People forget that it was California and some other western states working alongside Texas and some other southeastern states, not just California and Texas being best buddies
@@josefstalin9678until you realize cali meat rides for the government consistenetly
@@isaac6077 everybody meat rides daddy Gov when he pulls out his pocketbook
@@josefstalin9678yeah not like Texas that has a rising "secede from the US" faction lmao
@@samuelschwammel5482 And yet they would probably say they're "real" americans. A bunch of lost causers is all they are
Plemons has that Philip Seymour Hoffman edge to him in this scene. Looking slightly dull, but at the same time giving off an air of insanity and menace.
Meth Damon
😂😂😂
How do you like them apples
When life gives you Plemons…
Underrated lol
Make plemonade
Why is Elton John executing people?
It's the only way he can get it up.
It’s funny
He joined the magots fanatic brainrot club
Cause Saturday night is alright for fighting
They didn't like Crocodile Rock.
one of the most intense scenes of the movie (thought it was kind of an average flick, title really didn't align with the theme of the movie). What stood out to me about this specific scene is how in the world he wouldn't hear or see the vehicle barreling his way to run him over. He's moving around, aware of his surroundings, yet here comes an enormous SUV to mow him down? Didn't make sense to me
Typical bad writing from the current generation of writers, they put the protaganists in a corner there was no realistic or easy way to get them out of in this scene so the writers pulled that nonsense out of thin air. Having a local armed group that is oppossed to the gun men's group come out and smoke him then take custody of the protaganists would have made more sense and pushed the story along.
He freaking KILLED IT IN THIS scene! He plays a sociopathic/ psychopath so damn well. I always remember TODD from breaking bad, he’s a bad ass actor.
As good as this scene may be, it fails because of the movie it is in.
For a believable character to exist, they need to be a member of a world that is believable.
They could have written the most relevant, interesting and well acted character ever, the fact that he exists in a world where California and Texas are allies in a civil war makes the whole thing ridiculous.
They're hardly "allies". Its more so "we both hate the federal government, so we're working together to kick its ass before we go our separate ways". Kinda like how the USSR was our "ally" in WWII, the enemy of my enemy is my friend
I knew where this was going lmao
Not really… California and Texas both hate the federal government because they constantly attempt to tell those state how to do things. So it’s not unrealistic for them to team up together even temporarily to fight the big bad.
u really think latino's are voting blue this time? lol
@Epoch-vu8cj yup they are voting blue this year because conservatives can't control their bigotry or their superiority complex.
From Breaking Bad to Fargo to a Civil War..brilliant actor!
I really hope your channel gets the attention it deserves, your work on this is great
Anyone thought that the red glasses (which look pretty cheap btw) could've been taken from one of the victims and worn as "a joke" since he was fucking around with his buddy? that type of soldier that uses war to "have fun" on his psychotic tendencies, to me it says that the conflict s all a big block party for him, like a Purge character...
Makes sense. The glasses look silly so he's mocking the corpse he took them off of.
This guy Plemons is one of these actors, rare indeed, he is always different but not with OTT acting or gestures, just by being - he really is one to watch - I hope he has a stellar career and he clearly deserves it... nice post BTW on the camera angles
I randomly got suggested your Training Day video today and have been going down a rabbit hole since. Keep killing it bruh 🤙🏿
@@bredkass610 thanks my man! Appreciate it
The red shades, to me, evoke the stories of the Liberian civil war, where you had images of child soldiers running around, high as f*ck, wearing feather boas, wigs and other crazy-ass regalia, putting the fear of god in hardened combat reporters.
Its a brilliant and chilling scene. And when you know that simmons and Dunst are married in real life it just goes to show what amazing actors they are, and what a preformance. One of my favorites
you seen them in fargo? amazing.
This was the highlight of the movie
I’m still traumatized by the scene in Breaking Bad in which JP shoots the young boy in the motorcycle
I liked your deconstruction of the framing and camera angles at the start, the positioning reference and the characterisation of the character developed your points well.
@@gordonschroeder1 thank you :)
Meanwhile, the totality of the movie was utterly dog shit.
it depends what you were hoping to get out of it. And how intelligent you are.
@@orangewarm1 you really liked the movie, huh?
@@OsirisThaMystikal It was a good movie IF you understood going into it that it was a social commentary and not an action movie with heroes saving the day. This is the guy who made Ex Machina and Men. If you're familiar with his work, you knew what to expect. I watched lots of critical reviews, understood what kind of movie it was going to be, and went in expecting this. It's a really good movie.
It's not a crime to like the movie, but nobody's required to like it. I was alright with it, I just wish it was explained when and how the states seceded.
@@OsirisThaMystikal this is an Alex Garland movie. If you were expecting an action movie with pretty explosions, you chose the wrong director.
People who complain "Texas and California would never be allies!" completely miss the point of the film. It's a *war* movie, not a political one. It doesn't need to tell you the entire history of the country up until that point, the war is a setting for the the story that takes place. Did Saving Private Ryan have to explain how Japan pulled the US into WW2? Same for Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse now etc. The story isn't about the war, it's about what these people experienced at this point in the war.
Sam Esmail (the creator of Mr Robot) once said: ”I don’t care about plot. Point of view is everything. When I say “tone” that’s where I think that comes from. The world and everything around them are the details that enriches that.”
@@sorryitsmoops I like this a lot 💯
Jesse Plemons CHARACTER is NOT an unhinged Zealot. He is standing over a mass grave, probably his dead family and neighbors killed by the INVADING WESTERN FORCE. Imagine his state of mind. The Western Forces are those INVADERS that are NOT FROM California and Texas. They are the "IMMIGRANTS" which crossed over the BORDERS of Texas to California. They are THE INVADERS. Why did Jesse Plemons CHARACTER kill the Chinese? Because the COMMUNISTS CHINESE PARTY IS behind the ATTACK OF THE UNITED STATES, through their surrogates of the WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM (WEF). This film is nothing but a propaganda film FOR THE ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES PEOPLE! Jesse Plemons says it righty so, "WHAT KIND OF AMERICAN ARE YOU?!" Are you in alliance with the CCP/WEF, or are you an AMERICAN PATRIOT?!
All those movies work because most people know the context behind all the wars in those movies except this one 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Texas and California were allies to bring down a common enemy. I could totally see two different cultures, social and political, uniting together against a tyrannical authority figure. Plus both states are the largest in the contiguous US, and honestly Texas is becoming pretty blue politically, especially in the densely populated cities/burbs. It's just the numerous rural parts of Texas that throw off the scale.
I honestly think all the Southern & Western boundary states would form an alliance together, with the Loyalist states taking up the East coast and parts of the Midwest. The Florida alliance and Western Forces probably wouldn't have fucked with California or Texas, and in the film they probably would have allied with each other.
The Texas California alliance in the film was to keep the audience from picking sides and focus on the horror of the situation. It’s not about conservatives vs liberals. It’s a facist President giving himself a third term and ruling the nation with an iron fist. Why wouldn’t Texas and California find common ground in that?
I just noticed for the first time that there are the corpses of children in that mass grave.
@@dr.veronica6155 yep 😐
This is the only scene in this movie that matters and the only scene which realistically depicts a civil war.
The person crawling on the dead bodies in the pit reminds me of Owen Wilson’s character in the movie “behind enemy lines” about the Baltic war during the 90’s
I think this scene was amazing because Plemmons didn't seem threatening but clearly was. There's a disjunct. This is why people are scared of psychopaths. They don't seem dangerous and they are at the same time. He shot two people and had no emotional response. That he could do that and feel nothing is the scary element.
This film was about the apathy of jounalism in the face of war.
Starring Jesse Plemons as the face of war.
This scene was like a diamond in the rough with this film fr
Personally, I think it was dumb for the crew to approach them. They could simply shoot you for being there, but the plot needed it to happen.
The whole premise was dumb. These idiots were travelling cross country completely helpless in a time of actual civil war. The only real assets they had were their vehicles and Canadian dollars. Otherwise they were completely helpless. It was a suicide mission from the first minute. There were so many unrealistic and non-sensical things mixed in with some real truth that I couldn't get into the movie or put myself in the character's positions.
@@BigTomInTheBasement Just putting it out there that people do this sort of thing all of the time. Medical doctors from the US with wonderful lives flood into warzones just to help people, knowing that they are risking their lives. Journalists also do some crazy things for the story/photos.
@@gafee2001 doctors and journalists usually go in with support or embedded. They also can get out of serious trouble bc they have safe home to get to after they rotate out. These bozos went in with nothing. No support. No weapons, no where to back out to.
@@BigTomInTheBasement if you aren't aware of what exactly journalists do, I suggest you take a good guess as to where a lot of footage from World War II comes from. Might I also add Ukraine as well.
@@WRSpiral I guarantee WW2 journalists didn't go into combat without support
I fell in love with Jesse Plemons acting abilities when I saw him in Shrink. So glad to see him play a villain, even if a minor one, to great effect.
That's why, learn to protect yourselves, and have the means to protect yourselves.
Yeah, and stay in your own damn countries. We're full.
Journalist carrying weapons automatically make them combatants, not war correspondents. It makes sense with inside the logic of the movie. what doesn't make sense to the fact that they were joyriding like a bunch of high schoolers beforehand in an active war zone, regardless of the profession's reckless reputation.
love the symbolism of the rose tinted glasses, he can't even see that what he's doing is wrong
This scene was more goofy than terrifying ngl.
Thank you for your insightful commentary on this scene.
Plemmons' character is also the quintessential bully (and as such timeless and detached from issues of today) - the other characters talk as if talk mattered, as if talk could resolve the situation, as if anyhting they or even Plemmons' character say mattered - while for the bully it's just random babbling (while the "China" thing may feel pertinent, for the other victim "colleague" was enough to kill, for instance), background noise to the power trip.
Great review and write up. I have subscribed, looking forward to more content.
@@rogerbarnett891 Thanks :) Glad you enjoyed it!
nobody heard the car coming?
The movie was quite silly
Well, they were screaming, all screaming at each other at the top of their lungs...
Great essay, lovely observations, thank you.
@@thedudeabides3138 thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it :)
The scary part is how many people genuinely find that scene scary. So many people nowadays are naive and ignorant of realities and cruelty of life, that even the idea of something like this terrifies them.
goddamn you're an idiot
Cruelty of life ? If you said "the cruelty of wars" instead them maybe or elaborated on "life" WHERE perhaps because in the country I live in last time there was a guy that decided to shoot innocent people dead because of their religion/skin color it was a national tragedy that led to massive legal reforms about firearms ownership and other things and there have only ever been 3 mass shootings here. Because I can tell you for certain that outside of some areas in the USA and countries that are in active war zones most people do not have to worry about encountering people like this character when going out for groceries.
The problem with people is that we always place ourselves into the shoes of the victims. We want to empathize with the characters. Yet that's where your feelings of fear and dread come from. If you place yourself into the shoes of the bad guy. Well. Then its an entirely different experience.
5:29 You can also audibly hear the safety being flicked off.
Fantastic dissection of the scene. I really enjoyed this dep look into all the factors
Glad you enjoyed it!
Jesse Plemons has come along way since Meth Damon.
Sir, this commentary is quite brilliant. I have liked and subscribed. Looking forward to more commentary and study. Thank You.
Thank you :) Hope my videos continue to deliver!
Jesse Plemons plays the bad guy really well. That one scene from breaking bad when he shoots the kid that witnesses the train bust, that was so cold.
bad guy?
Yes. He's definitely the bad guy. Aka evil.
Low bait, edgelords.
I’d say the half-assed blocking and posture work is the most terrifying thing but I think the dialogue takes the cake
Thank you. I enjoyed your analysis of the scene.
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
If I'm not mistaken, those are red, color-grading glasses. It's a subtle nod that the character is looking to differentiate between colors.
Great analysis, keep up the good work
@@wesh_.6787 thanks :) 🙏🏽
loved it. very well done
You’re kidding right? What’s the second most terrifying scene in modern cinema, the whole cats movie?
Samr thought I had man, government propaganda
depends on what you consider modern cinema, most recent movies are kinda boring, what do you consider terrifying that came out in the last 5 years or so?
Have you seen it? Certainly terrified me.
“One of modern cinemas most terrifying scenes”, this was like SpongeBob and Patrick going on the kiddie coaster with the one bump in it.
Beat me to it. That meme is exactly what I thought of when I saw this video. But in all seriousness this movie was horrible, and people acting like it’s some genius revealing piece of art just isn’t true. “Civil War” I believe is what the title is called, somehow manages to scream loudly about division yet say nothing to actually address or dissect it- for an entire movie’s runtime. Gets old real fast.
Good bro! great video!
6:04 called him Jason
Fantastic breakdown❤
@@1v1_Perry thank you :) glad you enjoyed it
Great analysis!
@@pillarofdavidson thank you :)
Jesse was literally the best part of the movie
Not a guy to get political but damn, this has got to be the best message I have ever seen in cinema history
This is the best line in the movie but I kind of hated how it played out. ⚠️ SPOILER “North American? South America? …” Seeing this in the trailer I thought the question was asking what side of the war they were on. From there maybe we see a deeper understanding of how the sides view each other, especially the military.
The follow up was a bit of a let down in my first viewing. Now thinking about this scene more, his character didn’t care. He would have killed them all eventually, look what they were doing. This question was meant to stoke fear and keep the audience at the edge of their seats. It worked.
It's also meant to clue the audience into just how divided and radical the country has become.
The army dude looks like a young Phillip Seymour Hoffman
I’ve watched this movie twice and it is terrifying. I skipped this scene on the rewatch. Well acted and scary. One of the best movies I’ve seen in a long time but really uncomfortable to watch
I'm on team red glasses
then you are a sociopath.
@@anthonyfoutch3152 You say that like it's a bad thing....
@@davecal9421 blue lives matter when they aren't racist fucks.
1:55 Are you sure that putting him on the left has some sort of psychological significance. I would have said it was a simple cinematic choice so that a right handed shooter always has his weapon unobscured and towards camera. The other way around you wouldn't be able to see the weapon other than front on. 🤔
@@Miclantechupi it’s a common technique many directors employ if the scene calls for it. Whether it was a deliberate specific choice by Alex Garland the director, im not too sure.
@@fromthescreen123I know the clip of the bearded guy disarming the black guy is actual footage from real protests. The bearded dude has a UA-cam channel. “Weapon Snatcher”
He’s such a good actor. Great in Breaking Bad too. Intimidating times ten.
Last month people were saying possibility of civil war broke out in Britain. That didn't happen.
They don't have as many guns as United States.
This movie has created certain effects on American people.
Only because the British Army wasnt called out and didnt splinter into opposing factions.
@TheZombieman87 Would never happen.
They were fear mongering unfortunately, there was nowhere near enough disorder created by the government to allow for something like that to happen.
They tried pretty hard to make it happen though, why keir starmer was trying to hype up the rioters and make them angrier, even went as far as trying to start off the violence in Ireland aswell, thankfully they failed.
@@aussiviking604 Lets hope it doesn't.
The movie didn't spur americans, the USA right wing fearmongering that civil war is around the corner for more than a literal decade made this movie.
Moreso now that multiple right wingers are shown and proven to be paid to spout RU talking points. Of which includes stoking right wing into thinking civil war is around the corner
You're missing one crucial point about the red sunglasses. Blood doesn't appear any more red than a white tee shirt.
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You should see how the Former Bangladeshi police force acted when they massacred students before Hasina regime fell
03:55
Subtle.
Check the trigger discipline between the two shots on Plemons character. At first there's a full shot where trigger discipline is shown, next shot there is no dicipline with finger on the trigger.
It was a good scene. It reminded me of the scene in The Beach. ...and The Ruins.
Yes, Plemons did a great acting job on this. But let's not forget the Director, DP, and editor. They really set this up good.
ChatGPT deserves a credit for writing the whole damn script
my only issue with this movie is there wasn't more scenes like this. They showed this off in the trailer and made it seem like the movie would cut deeply at what Americans truly believe and yet it felt short of that. Worldbuilding is a huge thing to me and seeing the lack of it in this movie makes me want more. I want to know why each side fights. the scenes of soldiers getting bogged down and fighting is what I want to see. The lack of that turned me away from this film. This scene while great in terms of presentation is terrible in the hindsight of accuracy and motive. Showing one side to be entirely evil and non redeemable makes the movie feel less like a modern civil war and more of a rebellion against a corrupt government.
Movie sucked but good scene.
It’s been more than a month, so I’m sure people have already found this film, but it’s currently on amazon prime video if not🤷🏼♂️
It was pretty good.
This is a master class in over-thinking something.
@@bradowens6565 it’s just a scene analysis :) over-thinking is the point 😅
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The accent adds panache
Was a pretty good movie ngl, I wish there was a little more lore explained though, I’ll give it a 7/10
This is the same goofy movie with the “sniper battle” of people with neon colored hair and fingernails, right? 😂
No muzzle flare, no casing, no blood. Terrifying indeed.
Then you'll be disappointed by reality.
What happens at 3:04 then?
you see the spent case eject
Tf you talking about you tweaker
This is as close to Todd Alquist as Jesse has got recently. Nobody does deadpan menace better. Dude reminds me a lot of Philip Seymore Hoffman in that way.
It's an absolute parody...not based in reality at all
Actually, it is.
During the Vietnam war, US photographer, the son of actor Erol Flynn, was in Cambodia, home of the Khmer Rouge, when he came across the empty American car of another photographer just sitting in the road. He got out and approached some soldiers who marched him off into the forest.
He was never seen again.
While this movie is just a colage of events tossed together willynilly, most events are based in some situation that happens during civil wars. It's a movie about war journalist. Not really about the war itself.
@@aarond1622 It's a silly movie