One of the best quotes I've actually heard wolverine say is when he's asked if he likes people cuz he seems like sort of a loner and would prefer to be on his own. Wolverine actually says "I'm actually fine with most people and actually prefer to be around people it's other people who usually don't prefer to be around me so I learn to be all right on my own."
Unfortunately, muscles can only pull. Elongated muscles are relaxed, tensed muscles are shortened. A somewhat more realistic might be muscles connected to the base of each claw, and running along the claws to the base of the wrist. The muscles pull and extend the claws that way.
@@DrewLSsix Anatomically, for this to work, there would have to be two muscles per claw, one to retract and one to extend. However, the muscles that retract would bulge quite a bit, after all relaxed those muscles would have to be at least as long as the forearm. That's a fairly decent bulge when contracted, but given his muscle mass in that area, they are not really noticed as they would blend in with the other muscles. Unfortunately, those that extend would be very noticable as large lumps in his hand, if they were located there, but it would make more sense if they were also in the forearm. Additionally, those muscles could be attached to ligaments or tendons, I can't remember which one does what, and when they contract, they pull on the ligaments/tendons and those cause the claws to extend. However, for that to work, they would have to look like a rope and pulley system. The ligaments/tendons would have to ride over something inside his hand or wrist area to cause a reverse action, if that makes sense? The mechanics of his claws would be much simpler if they weren't so long. Unlike a cat, whose claws stay in the tips of their toes, his are housed on his forearm and that complicated things quite a bit. Add to this, when his claws are extended, they still allow him to bend and twist his wrists, so the internal ends must pass completely through his wrist and into his hand, that makes it even harder to stabilize them when you consider how much is outside of his body as compared to what's left inside. Honestly, the whole thing, while cool and awesome, is truly next to impossible, if they had come out of his forearm close to the wrist and were not as long, they would be more realistic and reasonably possible, but hey, we all know it's just a comic book character and what's cool about making it possible? 🤔🤷🤣😂
The first x-men movie did a good job of showing how the skeleton works and where the claws ride. The problem nobody ever addresses is that muscles only PULL. They don't "piston". He would have to have muscles in his hand/wrist area to pull the claws out of his hands, and another set to retract. This Wolverine would have to sling his arm ridiculously hard to extend his claws
This is 100% accurate. I tried to draw two sets, but I just could not make it look cool, it all looked too complicated and messy. In the end, I went with a simpler, more visually, gratifying look, because I had no real world analog to base it off of!
@@JonahLobeDraws yeah, sorry if it came across insulting. It just always boggled my mind as a kid. If it helps, the earlier iterations of his character went from "the claws are in the gloves" to "there is installed hardware for that", to the final form. Your art is fantastic, by the way.
I remember reading that once his claws are fully extended, he’s able to bend his wrists as the tendons bend at the base of his claw, but whenever sheathing or unsheathing he must keep his wrist straight other wise they’d pop out his palms or the top of his wrists depending on where his hand bends
I think it happens to him in the comics when he was young and he didn't really know about his claws, so they ran through his own palms to his horror and surprise.
There’s an old edition of “What If” comics titles along the lines of, “What if Wolverine Died.” In that issue, Wolverine flesh was completely burned (if I remember correctly) exposing his adamantium bones. What was particularly interesting to me, was the design of the claws, and the mechanical device in Wolverine’s forearms which extracted the claws. Each forearm has three adamantium tubes, which stored each claw. The “sniktz” noise was the metal sliding through those tubes in the forearms. Although “What If” is not cannon, it was probably one of the better designs which shows in detail the anatomy of Wolverine. I also remember reading somewhere Wolverine weighed really heavy because of his bones. It something ridiculous like 300 pounds. It just goes to show at 5’3” Wolverine is just a savage!
I have The Phoenix Saga original graphic novel and I remember Kitty Pride (as a barely adolescent young lady) remarking about how heavy he was when he was rendered unconscious. He’s been one of the most evolved characters in comics. He’s been fused with Batman in another continuity, he’s been “killed”, sent to “hell”, and yet he still keeps going.
I remember a few instances of Wolverine being reduced to his skeleton. The oldest had him left in Limbo where due to time distortion he had already been dead for some time. Some demon was using his claws for toothpicks. In Civil War he got all his flesh blown off by Nitro, but he got better. There was the time after he got his metal bones back but lost his healing factor, and he nearly got roasted to death before it switched back on. When they finally showed him recovering he looked like a squat Deadpool.
From memory the What if issue predates the fatal attractions storyline where we originally find out (and so does wolverine) that his claws were natural and not implants The the weapon x in the early 80s story Hines and the professor talk about implanting “terminals” at the knuckles to keep the holes open so there wasn’t as much blood
You earned my sub when you spoke of not thinking about a deadline, and when you spoke about not saving your art file properly. Both your art and your ability to be honest about the save file is impressive.
I really like how you paid attention to the radius bone because they need to align for the claws to be able to come out right from the knuckles. This is the same reason why X-23's foot claws don't make any sense. If the claws aren't protruding, how does her metatarsals and cuineforms are able to do any movement? She'd be clumping around like her feet didn't have any movement, because they couldn't.
Omg her little toe bones - what a nightmare!! I tried to figure those out for her for the book, and I couldn’t really make it work very well, tho I tried
I grew up on the 90s cartoon series and Wolverine was one of my favorites the idea of your hands having the claws come out felt so right. I know many of times I just held things in between my fingers claiming to be Wolverine. Still do at 30...
@@asimovstarling8806 Oh I do too. And I just turned 40. Nothing is cooler than Wolverine (except Mantis)! I believe I proved this point in the video. ;)
That ending caused my physical anguish. Scenarios like that is why I always keep my art on multiple layers and never combine any of it. Worst it got was one thing that was like 600+ layers. A lot of it is just incompetence on my part, but something of that sort happening is beyond hoffiying. Hope you somehow managed to find a workaround
Thank you Destiny!! I really appreciate that. As you are a fellow artist, you should totally come hang out on my lifestream and say hi! Monday-Wednesday-Friday!!
great work. interesting notes: original idea was his claws where attached to the his gloves. years later they would pop out on the back of his hands where he had slits that allowed the claws to come out. they had mentioned that the claws were implanted and were not a natural part of his body. ultimately someone came out with the idea that they come out from in between his knuckles which would make a more logical sense in being able to pop them in and out making them an extension of his body. and since the adamantium was fused to his skeletal structure why not make the claws also part of his skeletal structure.
I love how his claws collapse & sheath into his arm the way you drew it. Really cool. With Wolvie I’ve always loved the idea that if any normal human were to full on punch him, they’d break their hand against his adamantium skull.
I love wolverine as a character. They way you drew his arms I never realized he has to have extra muscles to push the claws out. Wow learn something everyday I guess thanks..
Back in the 80s writer Chris Claremont mentioned quite often that Wolverine's claws were bionic implants. This was also mentioned in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Weapons edition. Could you possibly take that into consideration and draw an illustration how that would look??
Ahh I would but Marvel wanted me to do this version and so that’s what I included in the book. I would do the other version, but unfortunately, my plate is currently full!
You can actually see the bionic implants after a sentinel fries Wolverine down to bare bones in the Days of Future Past event in the X-Men comic books.
He's in the book! I'm working on a video for him right now actually - hoping to show that one after I launch Storm in a week. If you want to see what Venom's spread looks like, come find me on Instagram!
There was on What If where Spider-Man had completely bonded with his suit. He got a hit of sonic energy and his skeleton was exposed. Like all of the muscles, tissues and organs had been replaced via symbiosis.
Hi. I really liked your video. I'm just another adult that grew up watching X-Men and all kind of comic characters. Just an observation: muscles are like elastic bands. They contract and relax. The contraction produces the strength. Muscles don't "push". Just as example, the contraction of the biceps bends your arm. But for extend it again, you need the triceps contraction. Your biceps can't "push" for extend your arm. You need antagonist muscles. So, for Wolverine's claws, you need two sets of muscles. Three that contract and drives out the claws. And another three that contract and retract them. As I imagine them, he need six muscles: * three for drive out (let's call them "A" muscles). * three for retract (let's call them "B" muscles). The six muscles are attached to the back end of the claws. The other end of the three muscles for drive out ("A" muscles), are attached to some point in the wrist. They are extended and relaxed when the claws are inside. And the other end of the three muscles that retract the claws ("B" muscles) are attached to some point near the elbow. They are contracted when the claws are inside, producing the strength for keeping the claws inside. When Wolverine wants to drive out his claws, he relaxes "B" muscles and explosively contracts "A" muscles. For retracting his claws, he does the opposite: he relaxes "A" muscles. And contracts "B" muscles. That way, I think this hypothetical Wolverine's anatomy has more sense. Anyway, I really enjoyed your video and your talent for drawing.
You are 100% correct! You are completely right, I originally tried to draw it with six muscles, however, and things very quickly became visually cluttered. As I am illustrating this book for mainstream audience, I had to focus on aesthetics, so I sort of just invented a new muscle structure for him. Hope you like my other videos too!
This is my favourite art video, full of failure, mistake, unfortune and unfulfillment of being recognised. Which is exactly like me and all of us drawing, thanks for sharing all this out and make me feel like it is normal for me to experience all that and it is a great thing that we pass through 1 step at a time
Aww Kujo I really appreciate that!! Thanks for watching and I hope you’re following for more art content and education, including the covering of my own upcoming comic book!
I've done that before with the saving of a flattened file over the original layered file and it really is horrible. Your re-enactment perfectly encapsulates the feeling of immense terror and dread that overcomes you when you realize what you've done and how stupid it was.
This is actually one of the better illustrations of how his claws should be. I hate the blade designs that have them coming out between the knuckles. There actually was a series of comics back in the 80's (they illlustraded how different characters powers and tech worked like Cyclops's visor) that showed how his claws worked and that there were bone spurs on his wrist that locked them in place so that he could bend his wrist after they were extended.
I remembering reading a comic 30 years ago. Wolverine had been captured and tortured. I specifically remember him saying good thing his claws were not operated by muscles or he would not have anything to give and stated that they were psionically controlled. So I reject any notion of muscles popping claws.
I would imagine the muscles that work his claws would contract in the other direction. His natural, relaxed state is with the claws retracted. Therefore, to extend the claws, the muscles would have to be contracting towards the hands.
There's a comic that addresses this. I want to say it takes place in Krakoa, but I could be wrong. In any case a bunch of mutants have power suppression collars on, including Wolverine. His claws are out and he explains when asked that he is normally holding them in, rather than pushing them out when needed.
@Joe Dukes this is not a dig at you, this goes for thr writers of that comic. That makes no sense. 1st suppressing mutant power typically doesn't affect physical manifestations of mutations, it's been shown numerous times on various mutants. 2nd, the idea that the natural state of his claws is extended is fundamentally ludicrous. If holding them in were a conscious effort he'd never be able to hold them in for any extended amount of time, much less when he's asleep or knocked unconscious. It's been shown that when he's knocked out his claws retract.
I clicked because "why not i can't sleep anyway" A few minutes in i think this is one of the best channels on yt. Simply perfect. Thank you for the flower and please keep this going!!
Its interesting that he seemingly designed the muscles so that they are contracted when his claws are in and they are relaxed when his claws are out. That would mean if he ever relaxes too much his claws would come out and he actually has to hold them in instead of the relaxed state being the claws in and him having to flex them out.
What always intrigued me most about Logan is that he for most of the comic series we see him in really two emotional states: full of rage or lonely/alone. The gruffness tends to portray very poor social skills but he can be a great listener. When in rage, he never takes pleasure like some characters can and that's something I found really fascinating about him.
Amazing work! I’m glad I came across your channel. As a future physician, aspiring surgeon, and super hero fan who’s spent my childhood drawing super heroes that combine the best (in my opinion) abilities, and wolverine’s claws and healing were always included. I’d love to make a suggestion, just for the fun. Skeletal muscles work under tension. when they contract, the muscle body shortens along their longitudinal axis. to make this even more accurate, the muscle bodies of the forearm that are driving wolverine’s claws out of his forearm should probably be stretched thin and long while the claws are still within his forearms. The the muscle attachments or insertion points would be at wolverines wrist bones and and the proximal end of the claws. Therefore, when he decides to engage his claws, altogether or individually, the muscle bodies contract, pulling the clause forward, like a slingshot. In this configuration, the muscle bodies would be short and fat while the claws are out. Admittedly, this would probably look a little weird because you’d have hefty wrists bulges when the claws where out. Fun thought exercise I guess. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for this George! I love hearing from actual medical experts about how this would work. The way I designed it had to ultimately be aesthetically pleasing, but I think there are a number of better solutions. Hope you've watched my most recent video, on Venom?
I remember being a kid and trying to figure out his powers. My uncle had come in and asked what I was doing, and I told him. He paused for a second and then said, "Predatory Animal, he's agile, has hightend senses, vicious/wildlike instincts and retractable claws.". It blew my mind once I started wrapping my 11 year old brain around it.
Actually, the original idea was that Wolverine's claws were a part of his gloves. That was changed to him having cybernetic implants (which can be clearly seen in both the X-Ray in the first Fox X-Men film and the commemorative forearm bone that was sold as a collector's item when that film was released). The bone claws didn't exist until 2001 when the Wolverine Origins comic was released. Frank Miller was the genius who figured out that the claws should be flat like knives, which is obviously a totally different profile from the bone claws also making the bone claws really dumb (I won't even mention that they should probably be fingernails like Sabretooth has). The cybernetic idea won out most likely because having actual claws that extended from and retracted into the forearm would make his wrist basically useless as the claws would tear his wrist up on the way out, prevent it from healing properly while they were extended and then tear his wrist up again when they were retracted (the claws would have to extend beyond the wrist up into the forearm to be functional, otherwise he'd just rip the claws out through the back of his hand every time he slashed something).
I think the one claws date back to 1993/94. Magneto ripped out the adamantium, and everyone was REALLY surprised when Logan popped bone claws in the Danger Room a few issues later. Between his healing factor being overloaded, and the grommets being gone, popping the bone claws out was a bloody mess. You do have a point that the organic claws would be probably be fingernail material rather than bone.
@@grimlock1471 I don't remember the earlier bone claws, but I could be wrong. I just remember thinking 'If the metal claws are flat, why are the bone claws round?' But, what I meant about the fingernails was that there are no animals that I can think of that have claw that extend from the back of their 'hands'. They have claws that extend from their finger tips (and toe tips to be exact). So, Wolverine having claws eject from the perfect spot for throwing a punch is a very strange evolutionary jump to say the least.
Marvel used to publish an annual book to detail things like how Wolverine's claws worked, Iron Man's Mark V Flying Suit, etc. I have a couple of them boxed up in my collection somewhere. I don't remember whether it was called an almanac or encyclopedia or something else, but what your're showing in your video is much like what I recall from that book back in the '80s. Well done.
Nice work. If I may offer a bit of constructive criticism (and risk sounding pedantic), the muscles of the forearm that you show wouldn't extend his claws. If anything, they would retract them when flexed. When the body has oppositional action potential, it necessitates opposing muscles, ie. a flexor and extensor. The muscles you have illustrated would retract his claws when flexed. Perhaps you could create another wolverine anatomical art piece that shows both arms where the opposing groups would show simultaneously. In any case,, the art is impressive.
Yusef, no worries at all bro, and yes you are 100% correct. However, in all the research I did, I could not find any muscles that do what his claws do. I tried to design six sets instead of three, so that you would have thrust and pull, but it ended up looking like such a mess. Ultimately I had to just go with what looked simple and just trust that people would enjoy hopefully enjoy it and believe it. This was my issue throughout the making of the entire book! All of it is fake science, so I had to invent everything, even if it wouldn’t work. But I appreciate the comment, it shows that you were paying attention! Would love to know what you think about my other videos. Also, you should grab the book!!
@@JonahLobeDraws I loved the video! I think that if you'd want to have the function of extension and retraction of long, thin claws through the forearm, you'd need a long series of sphincters around a tough tendinous sheeth. Have the base of the claw be thicker than the rest to provide leverage for the sphincters, and it could work. Just need to coordinate the order they contract in to move the claw. It would be anatomically plausible, but it would not look as cool as your drawing.
The claws may not need opposing muscles since it's a piston movement instead of a joint. They would need tendons like a rubber band or slingshot though. Also, the sleeves for the claws would need to structural. Otherwise nothing would prevent the claws from moving around or even being ripped from his arms. The sleeves could be slotted with the base of the claws being a tee. I agree the muscles should retract towards the wrist instead if the elbow and the opposing tendon be attached to the elbow.
@@JonahLobeDraws Actually, there are muscles that do exactly this--the costal muscles. There are essentially 3 sets, Normally, these for the chest wall are accessory muscles, and not used. However, they can be used in forced expiration and forced inspiration to pull the chest wall more than passive breathing or the intercostals typically provide. I might use those as a basis for the extensors, since we know that these muscles (when pathologic) can cause paradoxical chest wall motion and rib motion independent of the chest wall. That said, the attachment would have to be near the wrist in perhaps a circular pattern, with an insertion on the midpoint of the claw bones. Alternatively, you might be able to look at esophageal or intestinal muscle movement for muscles that can actually push a bone--which may be a more plausible arrange for bones penetrating through other muscles (i.e., the peristaltic motion might actually shift the other muscles enough to avoid damage).
This is a really beautiful piece of artwork. However, I do have a note for future projects like this. Muscles don't "push" they only "pull". Example: Biceps pull your arm "closed" while your triceps pull your arm back "open". That would mean that anatomically, your depiction of Wolverine can only retract his claws. HOWEVER, there could be a cool way of anatomically extending the claws using only pulling forces and it would be similar to some home made assassins creed hidden Blade mechanisms. Imagine a knife with a rope tied to the end of its handle. Now put that knife into a tube handle down. The rope would now start at the base of the knife, go up the tube beside the knife, exit the top of the tube and dangle down along the side. Now imagine a set of muscles pulling down on the rope; the knife would pop up! Add in your muscles to retract the claws and boom! You have retraction and extension using actual muscle contractions!
You are 100% correct! As you may have read in other comments, though, I made these decisions, ultimately because they were the most attractive aesthetic way to go about it. Because this was done for Marvel, for a mass audience, I had to go with the attractive bit first!
@@JonahLobeDraws That makes total sense! As an aside, I hope at some point you do Deadpool because I had always envisioned that his skeleton and internals would likely resemble a horror show of fractures healing slightly off center, lots of bone growths from frequent bone remodeling, organs slightly askew from healing in the wrong place. Kind of like if someone went their crazy uncle Steve for all their major surgeries and medical procedures. P.S. The "Contact Us" portion of your website seems to be missing a button to actually send the contact out. I went to send my appreciation for your work but there is no way to actually send it.
@@Bbeaucha88 lol gross - I love it! I DID do Deadpool for the book actually. Whether I dan actually make a Deadpool episode… I don’t know that I have the funds at the moment. Even after 250K people have watched this Wolverine video, only one person actually joined my Patreon 😔
you said at the ink drawing that no one looks at the little lines, but without the little lines, the drawing would look weird, so you're doing a great job! and btw i'm learning to go digital and i get great inspiration from this, so thank you!
Heyyyy good thank you Michael for looking at all my little lines! If you'd like to join one of my livestreams and watch me do digital (and ask questions), I'm on Twitch Mon, Wed, and Fri!
Without rather large forearms, there is no way 12” claws would fit if he still wanted to bend his wrists, AND hold the claws in position fully extended. Still, the art here is phenomenal and breathtaking. Somehow beautiful and yet macabre at the same time. I love it.
Another banger episode and a great lesson. Gonna use this for my illustration projects. Social media and Ai art makes it feel like the process is just a button press to an intstant perfect image 🙏. We forget the time and labour it takes to create something big.
ugh I hate AI art! It's so creepy and it's totally intruding on our industry in such a horrible way. Thank you so much for the kind words and encouragement, I'm so glad that this video will help add to your own inspiration and idea-generation!
13:25 Always got a kick out of Wolverine being inspired by Paul D'Amato's portrayal of Dr. Hook McCracken in Paul Newman's 1977 hockey film "Slap Shot". BTW, you've got me seriously wanting to see a pissed off, six armed Wolverine tear assing all over the MCU now. You got a sub for your effort....
Wowww Dullahan is that for real?? I watched that movie - Paul Newman right?? Anyway, thank you so much for the comment and for the sub, it means a lot.
@@JonahLobeDraws Oh, yeah. 100% Truth. John Byrne was quoted as saying Frank Miller based his version of Wolverine on Eastwood, while he picked D'Amato, who only had five minutes of screen time in the whole movie. During the interview, Byrne admitted that he didn't even know the actor's name but had "the look". Short, dark hair and complexion, mean as all hell, and possessing some of the most disturbing looking eyes I've ever seen on a human. I can't really nail down why the guy's gaze is so unnerving, it's almost like the guy's body and speech are doing the acting job, but his eyes are constantly searching for a way to kill you when the rest of his body isn't looking. I hesitate to use the term "crazy eyes", but there it is. I think that the only other film I've noticed the guy in is The Deer Hunter, but he had less screen time in that than in Slap Shot.
Though I only briefly skimmed some of the comments and did not find what I was looking for, my biggest curiosity about Logan's arms is specifically his wrists. Understanding that his claws are "stored" in his forearm, however his muscle structure works to extend and retract the claws, it would need to be flexible if he were able to rotate is forearm and bend his wrist. Horrible analogy, but I would imagine it would have to be a twitch-like muscle movement, like how Colin Furze's mechanical interpretation of Wolverine's claws operated, that would "throw" or "shoot" the claws fully extended or fully retracted. The problem with that theory is that there is no in-between as seen in some comics/movies. It seems all the logical, possibly realistic solutions would not work how comics have always depicted them. Fun thought experiment, and awesome design/artwork!
As a kid I loved Wolverine. For me he became the character that we know now in Uncanny X-Men #96. After he goes berserk and “kills” the demon he gives a monologue where he basically says “ Years of therapy and praying and I cut him to shreds without a thought and you know what? I’m glad”
This was quite possibly the best video I’ve seen in a long time. You are extremely talented and presented your craft in a funny and informative way. Instant like and subscribe. Thank you for your work. Save those PSDs! 😂
I know this is opposed to establish Wolverine biology, but I actually thought recently, it would be interesting if the claws weren't actually always there under the skin, inside his arms. Instead, that they were a subconscious use of his healing factory, whereby he could force his bones to develop growths at precise points on from his hands; forcing the adamantium to contort around the growths. And when he "retracts" them, he's just reabsorbing the growths, healing himself.
Wolverine was humanisized because of his suffering in life men could relate to that. While hulk was turned into a immortal. But the truth is the real Wolverine the unstoppable killing machine was the only formable foe for the incredible hulk. Remember the more hulk got angry the more unstoppable he was... but the original Wolverine was the same way he slipped into berserker rage and could not be stopped.
Originally, his claws were implants with surgically reconstructed tissues, there was a splash panel showing the pre-adamantium bones procedure where they were implanting the claws, and doing who knows what else
This is awesome. I have NEVER seen anything like it. And it gives SO much more to the heroes and villains. And it gives reason, why's and HOW of some of their powers work. I LOOOVE this style of drawing of yours❤️ Plus you're REALLY good at this stuff.😌🙏👏
I gotta say, the little tangent on Wolverine's relatability, and wishing you could do something like that? I totally get where you are coming from. I certainly have moments where i wish i could perform some superhuman feats for less than righteous purposes.
“… I invented him when I was 7.” *Adamantium pitch forks lowering…* Hahaha awesome video Jonah. Perfect choice having the process of his claws extending was great and I never even considered the inking nuances that help mask anatomical issues with having three right arms blend into a motioned action. Also your general advice on tackling any large task is absolutely dead on. It reminded me vaguely of a book on the subject titled “Eat That Frog” and the way you specifically worded your approach to large tasks is genuinely going to stick with me, and I love the positivity surrounding that. Excellent super power. MANTIS! How awesome! My childhood super hero was a stick figure with a cape and boxing gloves named Mr Ka-powie… and Thing from the addams family because I liked that in 3rd grade and why not. Significantly neater than my design hahaha, but also I thought of Michael Scott from the Office claiming to have invented unicorns. You did not take that route with Mantis hahaha. You have such a great grasp of the characters, and your passion for the project comes out tenfold in these videos. It’s great, and another wonderful one, and the process is as gorgeous as it is fascinating. “Not too shabby” at all good sir. AGH! That dramatization was painfully funny and tragic. Dang! So sorry that happened. Sounds like a mistake the smartest man in the multiverse could make… speaking of, I think Dr. Richards would be an awesome candidate for the next video. I can’t imagine the artistic liberty taken to bend and adapt a rigid anatomy to Fantastical proportions… pun intended
Thanks so much for all the kind words! I had a blast making this video, it's too bad the art ultimately was... compromised. Maybe one day Mr. Ka-powie will team up with Mantis, eh?? We'll get there, one bite at a time...
This was inspirational, entertaining, and educational. And at the same time, it generated huge amounts of rage and jealousy due to witnessing such skill and humility in the delivery. I loved your wisdom and encouragement. All in all, I both love and hate you with the same amount of ferocity that Wolverine felt within that test chamber. Wishing you all the success and praise you deserve. Hope to one day support you more financially. But at the moment, this is all I can afford. ❤🎉😅
That is so much awesome! Wolverine’s been my favorite comic book character ever since I picked up Uncanny X-Men #276 off the shelves of my local convenience store. I absolutely love this take on his anatomy! Amazing work! Sorry you flattened the image at the end 😢
As a Graphic Artist myself... this is why I save all my files along the way : elements.pdf, working.pdf, working02.pdf, test.pdf, proof.pdf, sample4print.pdf.... loosing layers suuuuuuUUUUUUUuuuucks Great work though bro! I'll have to grab the book next paycheck lol
That's a great idea, and precisely the sort of thinking I'll have to employ as I start working on my first original comic book this year. Stay tuned Esben!
Amazing art, but it would have been a good idea to check how protractile claws work. For example, the claws of cats remain retracted passively. No energy required to keep them hidden. They use muscles only to pull them out. In your idea, it's clear how the claws are retracted, but not so much how they are extended. An antagonist muscle is missing. The tendon locking present in bat feet (so they can sleep while hanging) could also give you some ideas
Alberto I like your thought process, but cat claws are actually just the tips of their feet. Their bones are bent backwards on top of their paws, they simply move them forward to push out the claws. If wolverine had this, he’s have HUGE finger joints running backward down his arm.
@@JonahLobeDraws I meant more the general mechanism of how they extend and retract the claw. You're right though, it would be difficult to make a compact set of joints with that much translation between extended and retracted. Something that could work is a tendon that keeps wolverine's claws retracted, like the muscles you drew, and a set of muscles that connects the base of the claws with the knuckles/wrist (kinda like a slingshot or bow), so when these muscles are contracted, they pull the base of the claws towards the knuckles/wrist, pulling part of the claws out between the knuckles
This is exquisite work. It's inspiring to watch it come together! I feel your pain about the accidentally flattened Photoshop layers. It is a rug pulled from beneath the feet of our hearts. It is a sword of regret thrust through our gut. It is another awkward metaphor describing a sudden, hollow pain. My *only* tiny nitpick is that ordinary muscles can't "push." They can only contract. Of course, given your incredible knowledge of anatomy you *know* this, but it was bothering me. The muscles at the base of his claws could retract them, but a reciprocal force would be required to pull them out. But! This drawing done so well - for a fictional character with fictional metal claws - that "ordinary" muscles need not apply. Perhaps the bundles you've depicted are a mutant combination of contracting muscle fiber and springy fascia do both jobs. (sips geek tea) Please discuss.
You are 💯 correct, sir! The way I did this was certainly not the anatomically, correct way. Ultimately, as you say, I had to make sacrifices to the aesthetic gods. Let’s just call these mutant muscles, they are the first step in muscles that can punch, and that’s why the humans are afraid of them
Hey Jonah can you please do the incredible hulk next, I'm really interested on how his anatomy works and beautiful art you never cease to amaze me 💯💯🔥🔥🔥
Thanks so much Jarmen! I've been meaning to make an episode with him, so I'll start drafting up something for him very soon ok? Thanks for subscribing and commenting!
@@JonahLobeDraws The hardest part is making room for those muscles and at what point his muscles are considered "relaxed". I love the idea that you came up with the radius and ulna expanding to make room. I have a brother in law who naturally has thick forearms and I always wondered what a real logan's arms would look like.
Very nice work! Thanks for giving us some insight on the workflow! By the way i really like your stylized anatomy, they kind of remind me of william rimmer! I was wondering which artists did you look up to to model your anatomical knowledge out of?
What a great comparison, thank you Karlson! And I'm so glad you enjoyed the video - stay tuned for my next one very soon. And when it came to other artists, my favorites have been Loomis (SO helpful), Hampton, and Bridgman! They're the ones I've turned to most, at least. What about you?
@@JonahLobeDraws Thanks for your reply! Ive always wanted to check out Loomis, but I've just been sticking to the artists you mentioned in addition to william rimmer's art anatomy!
@@JonahLobeDraws also looking to get your marvel anatomy book! Although im not too into marvel characters, they way you portray them is very interesting. Very cool and unique project, thank you for making this!
@@karlsoncheng4792 Thank you! I also wasn't THAT big into heroes before I started the project, but there were aspects of it that appealed to my more creative nature so I think you'll really appreciate those aspects. Or I hope so!
@@JonahLobeDraws Hey man, I'm sure it'll be amazing. By the way, I really look up to you as an artist and creative designer! May I ask how did you get to where you are today, and perhaps what are some significant milestones that you think someone following in your footsteps should be aiming for?
A different take on the claw muscle is they attach near the wrist, extend back, and contract to the wrist to pull the claw out. I think that was in the Marvel cards from the early 90s.
I think you should have made the muscles the other way, so it would be like the diaphragm, as, when it is activated, the claws would pierce the skin and get out of his hand (the claws would also be fixed and not moved thanks to the tension produced by them). As relaxed muscles tend to be elongated when they are relaxed. If not, as in this case, there should be another accessory muscles which would pop out the claws out of the hand, or a fascia, that's how movement is mainly produced inside our body, thanks to tensions of muscles, tendons, ligaments... Awesome drawing nonetheless, you are an amazing artist, hope you can keep uploding such great content.
It’s been decades since I’ve read a comic book, but I do remember, I liked Wolverine’s original iteration, when his claws the artificial weapons that extended from the adamantium in his forearms and not bone that was covered in adamantium. The whole bone claw thing never made much since to me on a physiological level. But, great piece, really like the illustration.
I'm a 3D artist with a big focus on characters and anatomy, I absolutely love this, stumbled across this video and I'm gonna watch the best and purchase the book!
Fantastic Kyle, so glad to hear you enjoyed it. As a 3D artist, you should 100% watch my Creature Design videos here online, as well as my Skyrim documentary! You'll be more interested than most.
This wonderful little short reminded me of recently got to relive my childhood power fantasy of being Wolverine VR has a game called Battle Talent. A game where you can mod in functioning, retractable Wolverine claws and fight goblins and monsters I have never had so much fun in my whole damn life
You know, my pain, Bryan! Also, since you are a fellow artist, you should definitely follow my channel and maybe join me during my live streams on twitch! You would fit right in.
That was the coolest video I've ever seen. Will watch 100 of these. Happy UA-cam recommended you. Great job. I enjoyed the wisdom in the middle too. That's a good format.
Lastly, you can push your git repo to a RAID 1 server or the cloud like OneDrive. So you can work local and have a remote headless (no actual files, just the guts of a git repository) in a safe space with all your commits (full history) available in case your local machine goes belly up.
Thank you for this Anthony! I actually have the whole computer backed up with backblaze, but because of my own idiocy, I had never saved it at the right time to be of use/later recovery
Trying to make sense of Wolverine's claws is a herculean task. The claws are longer than his forearms. They're often illustrated too thick and curved. The blades or claws would need a tang to anchor them when extended. He needs muscles to pull the claws out and other muscles to pull them back in. Conversely he could have hydraulic muscles like the launching tentacles of a squid.
So obviously creative freedom. I think you're project was well done. Just added insight. The claws should have muscles the retract and extention separately. The extention would be larger to keep them put even when hitting tough objects. The retract don't have to be large because it would never take much to pull them back in. The extention could be blood sack covered in dense muscle that can fill up without bursting because the muscle is strong. Would save a lot of space when drawing. Would be simple tubes. While the retract would be smaller tendons lined with muscle similar to fingers.
I bought his book, but keeping it wrapped as a collectable. Might get a 2nd copy just to explore myself. Its amazing to see this stuff when i started comics in the 80s n 90s, and just how far things have come
Great artwork. The only problem I can see with this is that mother nature doesn't actually allow for this type of mutation in humans. She doesn't waste space. There simply isnt enough room in our forearms to store three large claws and still have enough room for all the bone and muscle needed to make this work. But that's the beauty of comics isn't it? We can escape what "is possible" and dabble in the "what isn't" and that's so much more fun. If this was possible.... I'm pretty sure this is exactly how it would work.
Jonah, maybe I missed it, but it appears to me that you put muscles at the base of each claw. However, muscles *only* contract. Therefore those muscles would pull the claws in but not push them out. Do you have additional anatomy designed for deploying the claws? In nature I think this problem is often solved by muscles that squeeze tissue or fluid at the base of the appendage that needs to be extended. Like how squeezing a turkey baster pushes fluid away from the bulb. Anyway, just my 2 cents. Your art is beautiful!
Thanks Keith! You are totally right about the muscles, but as you may have read in other comments, ultimately, I had to do what I did for aesthetic purposes
One thing from the BWS comic Weapon X. You see an interesting internal view of his claws and forearms and there’s numerous bony nodules located on his long forearm bones, my theory is that they attach the complex structures that allow him to control his claws. This makes sense because he is not a particularly large man but he is known for being very densely muscular with large arms
Muscles always contract to create movement. The muscles you used don’t make a lot of sense. At least in the way you describe them. They would need to be contracted all the time to retain the claws. One of the only muscle we have that acts similarly is our diaphragm. His claws should probably use two different sets of muscles, maybe even with a ratcheting system (like how actin and myosin work). But if your idea works, it would be that the muscles are in contraction while the claws are in, and when the contraction is released a strong ligament pulls the claws forward and out. I’d also like to see more bone structures in the hand and wrist to lock the claws in place because I’ve always thought that they would be in need of reinforcement since their exposed length indicates that they have very little left inside the hand. Fun experiment though.
Brian, you're 100% correct. I initially designed the muscle system to have 6 muscles, for pushing and pulling, but I couldn't come up with an elegant way to show that, and things started looking messy and unintelligible really quickly. I researched ways to get around this, but I couldn't find an analog system in the real world that I could apply in an elegant way to his arms. Ultimately, because of time constraints and the fact that this is all purely fictional, I just sort of had to fudge it and hope that it looked cool enough to pass initial muster! Thanks for the comment and the thoughts, I'd love to know what you think of my other videos too, on Vision and Spider-Man especially.
Flattening the image is a habit I broke myself of quickly, now what I do is Shift,Ctrl,alt, E to flatten the image while still keeping the psd intact also highlighting all the layers below and make them into a group( Ctrl+g) so all that shows in the layers palette is flattened image, group and original background image. Fairly certain this is redundant advice for one of your skill. Lol. Anyway thanks for the great vid
7:33 such good advice for anyone. Especially a young person like me. I’m only 23 and shifting a lot of things in my life. Work is stressful, I just broke up with my high school sweetheart and things are just rough all over. But as long as I make it back tomorrow, things will be okay Thanks dude!
Great outlook Wanderer. I’m sorry to hear about yr breakup. But high school sweethearts are usually not great to carry forward too far, imho… we change too much in life! But much love to you, hope you can watch some of my other videos (I have more advices haha) and feel free to come say hello on Instagram!
Ey Jonah, I have a question. The claws came out between the bones of the forearm and then break through the carpal bones, or they pass above the carpals? and if they break through, are they actually break the carpals to pass, or the bones take a side to give them space to release?
I wrote this comment in another video. Just FYI, this stuff is called True Adamantium, it does not contain any Vibranium. Captain America’s shield is a Vabraniun alloy that includes steel and a 3rd unknown ingredient. It is the hardest know substance and was never able to be duplicated since it was created accidentally. Wolverine’s True Adamantium cannot damage Captain America’s Vibranium alloy shield. True Adamantium is virtually indestructible but a cylinder made of it was dented once when Thor hit it with all his strength using Mjolnir. Also Ultron’s True Adamantium body was also slightly dented when Hulk punched him full force. Vibranium alloy on Cap’s shield is considered indestructible and the only item of its kind in Marvel Universe. It has only been damaged with Godly forces a few times, once when Thanos used the Infinity Gauntlet to punch the shield. Pure Vibranium actually may not be tough at all but does have the unique characteristic of deflecting all force on it through some sort of perfect resonance like a tuning fork. So all force is reflected off a Vibranium surface at all times effectively nullifying it no matter how hard you hit it. With regards to Logan, his Adamantium laced skeleton is extremely heavy, several hundred pounds, as such, he is physically a powerhouse, not Superman strong but think world class power lifter strong because he is constantly lugging that weight around. His punches or slashes are extremely weighted, True Adamantium is not a light metal. Vibranium alloy in Captain America’s shield is very light and that’s why he can throw it like a frisbee. Pure Vibranium is actually feather light despite being indestructible. Logan is a feral creature with meta human peak level senses of smell, hearing, and touch. He has acute vision and incredibly fast reflexes with very heavy clawed punches. His healing factor is so potent he withstood his entire body being shredded to pieces with his eyes popping out if his skull when he went against dozens of wendigo snow beasts and was regenerated within hours. His is a formidable opponent and has tussled with super powerful bruisers like the Hulk to super soldiers like Captain America and held his own in battle. His healing factor gives him near limitless stamina and he can withstand hunger for long periods of time and he ages very slowly. Charles Xavier has said the only way to kill him is to fully decapitate him. Truly Wolverine is the most dangerous man in the Marvel Universe. “I’m the best at what I do bub, although what I do is not very nice.” This is all canon.
One of the best quotes I've actually heard wolverine say is when he's asked if he likes people cuz he seems like sort of a loner and would prefer to be on his own. Wolverine actually says "I'm actually fine with most people and actually prefer to be around people it's other people who usually don't prefer to be around me so I learn to be all right on my own."
Awesome quote. Thanks for this!
Where does he say this??
@@mannyh4043 in Marvel Midnight Suns when you recruit him
@@isaiahhellems7901 oh the game, ok I didn’t play it. Thanks!
Should be my life quote
The muscles that extend and retract his claws is such a killer idea
Thank you so much! I had so much fun with this one.
Unfortunately, muscles can only pull. Elongated muscles are relaxed, tensed muscles are shortened.
A somewhat more realistic might be muscles connected to the base of each claw, and running along the claws to the base of the wrist. The muscles pull and extend the claws that way.
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Anatomically, for this to work, there would have to be two muscles per claw, one to retract and one to extend. However, the muscles that retract would bulge quite a bit, after all relaxed those muscles would have to be at least as long as the forearm. That's a fairly decent bulge when contracted, but given his muscle mass in that area, they are not really noticed as they would blend in with the other muscles. Unfortunately, those that extend would be very noticable as large lumps in his hand, if they were located there, but it would make more sense if they were also in the forearm. Additionally, those muscles could be attached to ligaments or tendons, I can't remember which one does what, and when they contract, they pull on the ligaments/tendons and those cause the claws to extend. However, for that to work, they would have to look like a rope and pulley system. The ligaments/tendons would have to ride over something inside his hand or wrist area to cause a reverse action, if that makes sense?
The mechanics of his claws would be much simpler if they weren't so long. Unlike a cat, whose claws stay in the tips of their toes, his are housed on his forearm and that complicated things quite a bit. Add to this, when his claws are extended, they still allow him to bend and twist his wrists, so the internal ends must pass completely through his wrist and into his hand, that makes it even harder to stabilize them when you consider how much is outside of his body as compared to what's left inside.
Honestly, the whole thing, while cool and awesome, is truly next to impossible, if they had come out of his forearm close to the wrist and were not as long, they would be more realistic and reasonably possible, but hey, we all know it's just a comic book character and what's cool about making it possible? 🤔🤷🤣😂
@@DrewLSsix maybe the muscles pull them in and the claws shoot out when they relax?
@@haze4622 maybe if they were somehow spring loaded, but that would contradict the idea of his original bone claws
The first x-men movie did a good job of showing how the skeleton works and where the claws ride. The problem nobody ever addresses is that muscles only PULL. They don't "piston". He would have to have muscles in his hand/wrist area to pull the claws out of his hands, and another set to retract. This Wolverine would have to sling his arm ridiculously hard to extend his claws
This is 100% accurate. I tried to draw two sets, but I just could not make it look cool, it all looked too complicated and messy. In the end, I went with a simpler, more visually, gratifying look, because I had no real world analog to base it off of!
@@JonahLobeDraws yeah, sorry if it came across insulting. It just always boggled my mind as a kid. If it helps, the earlier iterations of his character went from "the claws are in the gloves" to "there is installed hardware for that", to the final form.
Your art is fantastic, by the way.
@@vensheaalara not insulting at all! I appreciate your attention to detail - it means you’re actually paying attention!! And thank you 🙏🏼
I'm wondering if the claws are just naturally extended and the muscles are used to retract them, not extend them.
@@johnmonahan4377 that's how I always interpreted them. That they're like a collapsible knife rather being hydraulically ejected
I remember reading that once his claws are fully extended, he’s able to bend his wrists as the tendons bend at the base of his claw, but whenever sheathing or unsheathing he must keep his wrist straight other wise they’d pop out his palms or the top of his wrists depending on where his hand bends
Damn, then he can be a part of the Assassin's Creed 😝
I think it happens to him in the comics when he was young and he didn't really know about his claws, so they ran through his own palms to his horror and surprise.
@@vitaliyred622he was off planet and drunk off his tits and did this
There’s an old edition of “What If” comics titles along the lines of, “What if Wolverine Died.” In that issue, Wolverine flesh was completely burned (if I remember correctly) exposing his adamantium bones. What was particularly interesting to me, was the design of the claws, and the mechanical device in Wolverine’s forearms which extracted the claws. Each forearm has three adamantium tubes, which stored each claw. The “sniktz” noise was the metal sliding through those tubes in the forearms. Although “What If” is not cannon, it was probably one of the better designs which shows in detail the anatomy of Wolverine. I also remember reading somewhere Wolverine weighed really heavy because of his bones. It something ridiculous like 300 pounds. It just goes to show at 5’3” Wolverine is just a savage!
Yeah that’s why I made him so short and on the front of the book!! He’s a short little unit. Must weight SO much
I remember that issue!
I have The Phoenix Saga original graphic novel and I remember Kitty Pride (as a barely adolescent young lady) remarking about how heavy he was when he was rendered unconscious. He’s been one of the most evolved characters in comics. He’s been fused with Batman in another continuity, he’s been “killed”, sent to “hell”, and yet he still keeps going.
I remember a few instances of Wolverine being reduced to his skeleton. The oldest had him left in Limbo where due to time distortion he had already been dead for some time. Some demon was using his claws for toothpicks. In Civil War he got all his flesh blown off by Nitro, but he got better. There was the time after he got his metal bones back but lost his healing factor, and he nearly got roasted to death before it switched back on. When they finally showed him recovering he looked like a squat Deadpool.
From memory the What if issue predates the fatal attractions storyline where we originally find out (and so does wolverine) that his claws were natural and not implants
The the weapon x in the early 80s story Hines and the professor talk about implanting “terminals” at the knuckles to keep the holes open so there wasn’t as much blood
I love how these videos aren't just advertisements for the book but genuine incredible art videos with lessons and humor and advice and story
Thanks so much for that thoughtful comment. I want all my videos to be worthwhile for everyone!
You earned my sub when you spoke of not thinking about a deadline, and when you spoke about not saving your art file properly. Both your art and your ability to be honest about the save file is impressive.
Thank you Joe. My whole intention is to demystify the art process, so I always try to be as honest as possible!
I really like how you paid attention to the radius bone because they need to align for the claws to be able to come out right from the knuckles. This is the same reason why X-23's foot claws don't make any sense. If the claws aren't protruding, how does her metatarsals and cuineforms are able to do any movement? She'd be clumping around like her feet didn't have any movement, because they couldn't.
Omg her little toe bones - what a nightmare!! I tried to figure those out for her for the book, and I couldn’t really make it work very well, tho I tried
What if the claws didn't come outa her toes but between them 🤔
@@crisalcantara7671 if they were shorter it might make sense but theyre just too long
@@lifeispain404 are they really that long 😁😂😂
@@crisalcantara7671 I wasn't talking about her toes. Her metarsus would be pretty much immobile if she had claw like she has in her foot.
I mean, what's not to like? The rad discussion of Logan's claws, the amazing art tutorial, some humor, so encouragement to achieve our dreams. A++
I grew up on the 90s cartoon series and Wolverine was one of my favorites the idea of your hands having the claws come out felt so right. I know many of times I just held things in between my fingers claiming to be Wolverine. Still do at 30...
Same here. though I'm almost 33
@@asimovstarling8806 Oh I do too. And I just turned 40. Nothing is cooler than Wolverine (except Mantis)! I believe I proved this point in the video. ;)
As long as you don’t save you can undo flatten
I'll be sitting there watching TV and just hold my hand out just to make sure I can't pop any claws lol
I think we all do it man. It could be forks or chopsticks or pens. If theres 3 of em, im wolverine.
That ending caused my physical anguish. Scenarios like that is why I always keep my art on multiple layers and never combine any of it.
Worst it got was one thing that was like 600+ layers.
A lot of it is just incompetence on my part, but something of that sort happening is beyond hoffiying.
Hope you somehow managed to find a workaround
Thank you Destiny!! I really appreciate that. As you are a fellow artist, you should totally come hang out on my lifestream and say hi! Monday-Wednesday-Friday!!
YES! Wolverine is my favorite and you did him justice. Awesome work Jonah! =D
Aww thank you so much Bill! I am trying to my best with these, hope you're enjoying the series.
great work. interesting notes: original idea was his claws where attached to the his gloves. years later they would pop out on the back of his hands where he had slits that allowed the claws to come out. they had mentioned that the claws were implanted and were not a natural part of his body. ultimately someone came out with the idea that they come out from in between his knuckles which would make a more logical sense in being able to pop them in and out making them an extension of his body. and since the adamantium was fused to his skeletal structure why not make the claws also part of his skeletal structure.
I love the idea, and I love how it evolved, don’t you Eddie?
I love how his claws collapse & sheath into his arm the way you drew it. Really cool.
With Wolvie I’ve always loved the idea that if any normal human were to full on punch him, they’d break their hand against his adamantium skull.
Thanks Lion! Be sure to watch my new video on venom.
I love wolverine as a character. They way you drew his arms I never realized he has to have extra muscles to push the claws out. Wow learn something everyday I guess thanks..
My pleasure James! Hope you watch the other videos in my series too!
Back in the 80s writer Chris Claremont mentioned quite often that Wolverine's claws were bionic implants. This was also mentioned in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Weapons edition.
Could you possibly take that into consideration and draw an illustration how that would look??
Ahh I would but Marvel wanted me to do this version and so that’s what I included in the book. I would do the other version, but unfortunately, my plate is currently full!
You can actually see the bionic implants after a sentinel fries Wolverine down to bare bones in the Days of Future Past event in the X-Men comic books.
Have you featured Venom yet? I think seeing how a living symbiotic organism bonds and works with a human being would be awesome.
He's in the book! I'm working on a video for him right now actually - hoping to show that one after I launch Storm in a week. If you want to see what Venom's spread looks like, come find me on Instagram!
There was on What If where Spider-Man had completely bonded with his suit. He got a hit of sonic energy and his skeleton was exposed. Like all of the muscles, tissues and organs had been replaced via symbiosis.
@@JonahLobeDraws just got a subscriber for that one
@@mrgreatbigmooseAnd, correct me if I'm wrong, he re-named him-self as, Poison.
Dude this is a breathe of incredibly fresh air. I freaking love this series and this is the first video I’ve seen!😂
Hi.
I really liked your video. I'm just another adult that grew up watching X-Men and all kind of comic characters.
Just an observation: muscles are like elastic bands. They contract and relax. The contraction produces the strength. Muscles don't "push".
Just as example, the contraction of the biceps bends your arm. But for extend it again, you need the triceps contraction. Your biceps can't "push" for extend your arm. You need antagonist muscles.
So, for Wolverine's claws, you need two sets of muscles. Three that contract and drives out the claws. And another three that contract and retract them.
As I imagine them, he need six muscles:
* three for drive out (let's call them "A" muscles).
* three for retract (let's call them "B" muscles).
The six muscles are attached to the back end of the claws.
The other end of the three muscles for drive out ("A" muscles), are attached to some point in the wrist. They are extended and relaxed when the claws are inside.
And the other end of the three muscles that retract the claws ("B" muscles) are attached to some point near the elbow. They are contracted when the claws are inside, producing the strength for keeping the claws inside.
When Wolverine wants to drive out his claws, he relaxes "B" muscles and explosively contracts "A" muscles.
For retracting his claws, he does the opposite: he relaxes "A" muscles. And contracts "B" muscles.
That way, I think this hypothetical Wolverine's anatomy has more sense.
Anyway, I really enjoyed your video and your talent for drawing.
You are 100% correct! You are completely right, I originally tried to draw it with six muscles, however, and things very quickly became visually cluttered. As I am illustrating this book for mainstream audience, I had to focus on aesthetics, so I sort of just invented a new muscle structure for him. Hope you like my other videos too!
This is my favourite art video, full of failure, mistake, unfortune and unfulfillment of being recognised. Which is exactly like me and all of us drawing, thanks for sharing all this out and make me feel like it is normal for me to experience all that and it is a great thing that we pass through 1 step at a time
Aww Kujo I really appreciate that!! Thanks for watching and I hope you’re following for more art content and education, including the covering of my own upcoming comic book!
I've done that before with the saving of a flattened file over the original layered file and it really is horrible. Your re-enactment perfectly encapsulates the feeling of immense terror and dread that overcomes you when you realize what you've done and how stupid it was.
Thank you Robert. The pain was real. Hope you’ve subscribed for more?
This is actually one of the better illustrations of how his claws should be. I hate the blade designs that have them coming out between the knuckles. There actually was a series of comics back in the 80's (they illlustraded how different characters powers and tech worked like Cyclops's visor) that showed how his claws worked and that there were bone spurs on his wrist that locked them in place so that he could bend his wrist after they were extended.
I remembering reading a comic 30 years ago. Wolverine had been captured and tortured. I specifically remember him saying good thing his claws were not operated by muscles or he would not have anything to give and stated that they were psionically controlled. So I reject any notion of muscles popping claws.
I would imagine the muscles that work his claws would contract in the other direction. His natural, relaxed state is with the claws retracted. Therefore, to extend the claws, the muscles would have to be contracting towards the hands.
I was thinking this as well. This illustration is exactly the the opposite of how muscles actually function.
There's a comic that addresses this. I want to say it takes place in Krakoa, but I could be wrong. In any case a bunch of mutants have power suppression collars on, including Wolverine. His claws are out and he explains when asked that he is normally holding them in, rather than pushing them out when needed.
@Joe Dukes this is not a dig at you, this goes for thr writers of that comic. That makes no sense. 1st suppressing mutant power typically doesn't affect physical manifestations of mutations, it's been shown numerous times on various mutants. 2nd, the idea that the natural state of his claws is extended is fundamentally ludicrous. If holding them in were a conscious effort he'd never be able to hold them in for any extended amount of time, much less when he's asleep or knocked unconscious. It's been shown that when he's knocked out his claws retract.
I clicked because "why not i can't sleep anyway"
A few minutes in i think this is one of the best channels on yt. Simply perfect. Thank you for the flower and please keep this going!!
Heyooo Darso my pleasure! Thanks for subscribing, and enjoy!
Its interesting that he seemingly designed the muscles so that they are contracted when his claws are in and they are relaxed when his claws are out. That would mean if he ever relaxes too much his claws would come out and he actually has to hold them in instead of the relaxed state being the claws in and him having to flex them out.
It was really just an aesthetic decision, I tried to make it work, the way that muscles actually work, and I just couldn’t make it look right…
What always intrigued me most about Logan is that he for most of the comic series we see him in really two emotional states: full of rage or lonely/alone. The gruffness tends to portray very poor social skills but he can be a great listener. When in rage, he never takes pleasure like some characters can and that's something I found really fascinating about him.
Amazing work! I’m glad I came across your channel. As a future physician, aspiring surgeon, and super hero fan who’s spent my childhood drawing super heroes that combine the best (in my opinion) abilities, and wolverine’s claws and healing were always included. I’d love to make a suggestion, just for the fun. Skeletal muscles work under tension. when they contract, the muscle body shortens along their longitudinal axis. to make this even more accurate, the muscle bodies of the forearm that are driving wolverine’s claws out of his forearm should probably be stretched thin and long while the claws are still within his forearms. The the muscle attachments or insertion points would be at wolverines wrist bones and and the proximal end of the claws. Therefore, when he decides to engage his claws, altogether or individually, the muscle bodies contract, pulling the clause forward, like a slingshot. In this configuration, the muscle bodies would be short and fat while the claws are out. Admittedly, this would probably look a little weird because you’d have hefty wrists bulges when the claws where out. Fun thought exercise I guess. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for this George! I love hearing from actual medical experts about how this would work. The way I designed it had to ultimately be aesthetically pleasing, but I think there are a number of better solutions.
Hope you've watched my most recent video, on Venom?
This is why I love UA-cam, crazy talented people, great channel man!
Thanks Robby! Appreciate the kind words man. Hope you get a chance to look at my other videos roo!
I remember being a kid and trying to figure out his powers. My uncle had come in and asked what I was doing, and I told him. He paused for a second and then said, "Predatory Animal, he's agile, has hightend senses, vicious/wildlike instincts and retractable claws.". It blew my mind once I started wrapping my 11 year old brain around it.
I love it, great story Bryant thank you for sharing!
You saving the file flat without a layered backup instantly triggered my Jr. Artist in 1st major job PTSD....I love your work man!
Lol you know my pain Dino!! And thank you!! Since you’re another artist, you should come join my Twitch stream some time!
Actually, the original idea was that Wolverine's claws were a part of his gloves. That was changed to him having cybernetic implants (which can be clearly seen in both the X-Ray in the first Fox X-Men film and the commemorative forearm bone that was sold as a collector's item when that film was released). The bone claws didn't exist until 2001 when the Wolverine Origins comic was released. Frank Miller was the genius who figured out that the claws should be flat like knives, which is obviously a totally different profile from the bone claws also making the bone claws really dumb (I won't even mention that they should probably be fingernails like Sabretooth has). The cybernetic idea won out most likely because having actual claws that extended from and retracted into the forearm would make his wrist basically useless as the claws would tear his wrist up on the way out, prevent it from healing properly while they were extended and then tear his wrist up again when they were retracted (the claws would have to extend beyond the wrist up into the forearm to be functional, otherwise he'd just rip the claws out through the back of his hand every time he slashed something).
I think the one claws date back to 1993/94. Magneto ripped out the adamantium, and everyone was REALLY surprised when Logan popped bone claws in the Danger Room a few issues later. Between his healing factor being overloaded, and the grommets being gone, popping the bone claws out was a bloody mess.
You do have a point that the organic claws would be probably be fingernail material rather than bone.
@@grimlock1471 I don't remember the earlier bone claws, but I could be wrong. I just remember thinking 'If the metal claws are flat, why are the bone claws round?' But, what I meant about the fingernails was that there are no animals that I can think of that have claw that extend from the back of their 'hands'. They have claws that extend from their finger tips (and toe tips to be exact). So, Wolverine having claws eject from the perfect spot for throwing a punch is a very strange evolutionary jump to say the least.
Marvel used to publish an annual book to detail things like how Wolverine's claws worked, Iron Man's Mark V Flying Suit, etc. I have a couple of them boxed up in my collection somewhere. I don't remember whether it was called an almanac or encyclopedia or something else, but what your're showing in your video is much like what I recall from that book back in the '80s. Well done.
Thanks Smith! Be sure to catch my newest video on Venom!!
Nice work. If I may offer a bit of constructive criticism (and risk sounding pedantic), the muscles of the forearm that you show wouldn't extend his claws. If anything, they would retract them when flexed. When the body has oppositional action potential, it necessitates opposing muscles, ie. a flexor and extensor. The muscles you have illustrated would retract his claws when flexed. Perhaps you could create another wolverine anatomical art piece that shows both arms where the opposing groups would show simultaneously. In any case,, the art is impressive.
Yusef, no worries at all bro, and yes you are 100% correct. However, in all the research I did, I could not find any muscles that do what his claws do. I tried to design six sets instead of three, so that you would have thrust and pull, but it ended up looking like such a mess. Ultimately I had to just go with what looked simple and just trust that people would enjoy hopefully enjoy it and believe it. This was my issue throughout the making of the entire book! All of it is fake science, so I had to invent everything, even if it wouldn’t work. But I appreciate the comment, it shows that you were paying attention! Would love to know what you think about my other videos. Also, you should grab the book!!
@@JonahLobeDraws I loved the video! I think that if you'd want to have the function of extension and retraction of long, thin claws through the forearm, you'd need a long series of sphincters around a tough tendinous sheeth. Have the base of the claw be thicker than the rest to provide leverage for the sphincters, and it could work. Just need to coordinate the order they contract in to move the claw. It would be anatomically plausible, but it would not look as cool as your drawing.
@@Demonstormlord also a series of sphincter muscles might really turn people off to Wolverine hahahaha
The claws may not need opposing muscles since it's a piston movement instead of a joint. They would need tendons like a rubber band or slingshot though. Also, the sleeves for the claws would need to structural. Otherwise nothing would prevent the claws from moving around or even being ripped from his arms.
The sleeves could be slotted with the base of the claws being a tee. I agree the muscles should retract towards the wrist instead if the elbow and the opposing tendon be attached to the elbow.
@@JonahLobeDraws Actually, there are muscles that do exactly this--the costal muscles. There are essentially 3 sets, Normally, these for the chest wall are accessory muscles, and not used. However, they can be used in forced expiration and forced inspiration to pull the chest wall more than passive breathing or the intercostals typically provide.
I might use those as a basis for the extensors, since we know that these muscles (when pathologic) can cause paradoxical chest wall motion and rib motion independent of the chest wall.
That said, the attachment would have to be near the wrist in perhaps a circular pattern, with an insertion on the midpoint of the claw bones.
Alternatively, you might be able to look at esophageal or intestinal muscle movement for muscles that can actually push a bone--which may be a more plausible arrange for bones penetrating through other muscles (i.e., the peristaltic motion might actually shift the other muscles enough to avoid damage).
I just gotta appreciate Jonahs dedication to replying to all these comments, good work man!
Man Txcca I am TIRED…
You're an incredible artist, I'm surprised your channel hasn't blown up yet. Yojr videos need more views!
Thanks Zurr! I'm really leaning into it this year, so with help from people like you, hopefully I'll start "blowing up" soon. Spread the word friend!!
Totally agree!!!
This is a really beautiful piece of artwork. However, I do have a note for future projects like this. Muscles don't "push" they only "pull". Example: Biceps pull your arm "closed" while your triceps pull your arm back "open". That would mean that anatomically, your depiction of Wolverine can only retract his claws. HOWEVER, there could be a cool way of anatomically extending the claws using only pulling forces and it would be similar to some home made assassins creed hidden Blade mechanisms.
Imagine a knife with a rope tied to the end of its handle. Now put that knife into a tube handle down. The rope would now start at the base of the knife, go up the tube beside the knife, exit the top of the tube and dangle down along the side. Now imagine a set of muscles pulling down on the rope; the knife would pop up! Add in your muscles to retract the claws and boom! You have retraction and extension using actual muscle contractions!
You are 100% correct! As you may have read in other comments, though, I made these decisions, ultimately because they were the most attractive aesthetic way to go about it. Because this was done for Marvel, for a mass audience, I had to go with the attractive bit first!
@@JonahLobeDraws That makes total sense! As an aside, I hope at some point you do Deadpool because I had always envisioned that his skeleton and internals would likely resemble a horror show of fractures healing slightly off center, lots of bone growths from frequent bone remodeling, organs slightly askew from healing in the wrong place. Kind of like if someone went their crazy uncle Steve for all their major surgeries and medical procedures.
P.S. The "Contact Us" portion of your website seems to be missing a button to actually send the contact out. I went to send my appreciation for your work but there is no way to actually send it.
@@Bbeaucha88 lol gross - I love it! I DID do Deadpool for the book actually. Whether I dan actually make a Deadpool episode… I don’t know that I have the funds at the moment. Even after 250K people have watched this Wolverine video, only one person actually joined my Patreon 😔
Your humor and your art are both amazing!!
Aww thank you Thomas! I hope to continue to make quality videos, so I really appreciate your following and commenting.
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It would be nice to explore how Colossus goes from human skin to metal and just how deep that goes.
That’s actually covered in the book!
@@JonahLobeDraws Looks like I need to pick up a copy then. Thanks.
you said at the ink drawing that no one looks at the little lines, but without the little lines, the drawing would look weird, so you're doing a great job! and btw i'm learning to go digital and i get great inspiration from this, so thank you!
Heyyyy good thank you Michael for looking at all my little lines! If you'd like to join one of my livestreams and watch me do digital (and ask questions), I'm on Twitch Mon, Wed, and Fri!
@@JonahLobeDraws ohh thank you, I would definitely go watch! :))
Without rather large forearms, there is no way 12” claws would fit if he still wanted to bend his wrists, AND hold the claws in position fully extended.
Still, the art here is phenomenal and breathtaking. Somehow beautiful and yet macabre at the same time. I love it.
Thank you Sonic! I hope you’re watching my other vids??
Amazing drawing. This is the most spectacular wolverine anatomy drawings I've ever seen 😊👍
Wow thank you my friend! be sure to check out my other videos too :)
Another banger episode and a great lesson. Gonna use this for my illustration projects. Social media and Ai art makes it feel like the process is just a button press to an intstant perfect image 🙏. We forget the time and labour it takes to create something big.
ugh I hate AI art! It's so creepy and it's totally intruding on our industry in such a horrible way. Thank you so much for the kind words and encouragement, I'm so glad that this video will help add to your own inspiration and idea-generation!
Wolverine is my favorite, so thank you for making this video, i really enjoyed it !
My pleasure Hoodbaby! Have you watched my other videos? Just released one on Venom yesterday.
@@JonahLobeDraws nah, i just found your channel, will you make a Carnage video? that would be super cool
@@hoodbabyslime24 no wont make a carnage video, just venom. If I can afford to make another video, I’ll probably do Skrulls
13:25 Always got a kick out of Wolverine being inspired by Paul D'Amato's portrayal of Dr. Hook McCracken in Paul Newman's 1977 hockey film "Slap Shot".
BTW, you've got me seriously wanting to see a pissed off, six armed Wolverine tear assing all over the MCU now. You got a sub for your effort....
Wowww Dullahan is that for real?? I watched that movie - Paul Newman right?? Anyway, thank you so much for the comment and for the sub, it means a lot.
@@JonahLobeDraws Oh, yeah. 100% Truth. John Byrne was quoted as saying Frank Miller based his version of Wolverine on Eastwood, while he picked D'Amato, who only had five minutes of screen time in the whole movie. During the interview, Byrne admitted that he didn't even know the actor's name but had "the look". Short, dark hair and complexion, mean as all hell, and possessing some of the most disturbing looking eyes I've ever seen on a human. I can't really nail down why the guy's gaze is so unnerving, it's almost like the guy's body and speech are doing the acting job, but his eyes are constantly searching for a way to kill you when the rest of his body isn't looking. I hesitate to use the term "crazy eyes", but there it is.
I think that the only other film I've noticed the guy in is The Deer Hunter, but he had less screen time in that than in Slap Shot.
Though I only briefly skimmed some of the comments and did not find what I was looking for, my biggest curiosity about Logan's arms is specifically his wrists. Understanding that his claws are "stored" in his forearm, however his muscle structure works to extend and retract the claws, it would need to be flexible if he were able to rotate is forearm and bend his wrist. Horrible analogy, but I would imagine it would have to be a twitch-like muscle movement, like how Colin Furze's mechanical interpretation of Wolverine's claws operated, that would "throw" or "shoot" the claws fully extended or fully retracted. The problem with that theory is that there is no in-between as seen in some comics/movies. It seems all the logical, possibly realistic solutions would not work how comics have always depicted them.
Fun thought experiment, and awesome design/artwork!
Thanks so much Adam for your thoughts on this, which are well thought out. Hope you enjoy my other videos as much!
As a kid I loved Wolverine. For me he became the character that we know now in Uncanny X-Men #96. After he goes berserk and “kills” the demon he gives a monologue where he basically says “ Years of therapy and praying and I cut him to shreds without a thought and you know what? I’m glad”
Awesome Larry, love it. Hope you've subscribed and watched some of my other videos?
DC already did an anatomy book. I own it. Your explanation of having a muscle per claw is genius. Nature is intelligence.
That book is published by the same publisher! It you liked the DC boo, def pick up Marvel Anatomy too!
This was quite possibly the best video I’ve seen in a long time. You are extremely talented and presented your craft in a funny and informative way. Instant like and subscribe. Thank you for your work. Save those PSDs! 😂
Kevin wow thank you bro!! Appreciate the comment and sub. Hope you enjoy the other vids - got a new one dropping in a week!
Came across this by accident and couldn't be more happy that I did. You gained yourself a subscriber. Awesome video!
Hooray Mid! Thanks for the subscription, and I hope you like my other videos!
I know this is opposed to establish Wolverine biology, but I actually thought recently, it would be interesting if the claws weren't actually always there under the skin, inside his arms. Instead, that they were a subconscious use of his healing factory, whereby he could force his bones to develop growths at precise points on from his hands; forcing the adamantium to contort around the growths. And when he "retracts" them, he's just reabsorbing the growths, healing himself.
I love that idea! Like Iron Man’s nanotech almost, but biological
You are a new Bob Ross! Inspiring motivation while detailing the innards of my favorite X-Man
Thank you Mouse!! Hope you’ve subscribed for more??
Wolverine was humanisized because of his suffering in life men could relate to that. While hulk was turned into a immortal. But the truth is the real Wolverine the unstoppable killing machine was the only formable foe for the incredible hulk. Remember the more hulk got angry the more unstoppable he was... but the original Wolverine was the same way he slipped into berserker rage and could not be stopped.
Wolverine has actually killed hulk a few times in comics.
Yeah they are a well-matched duo!! I appreciate that they have very different backstories.
The hulk has knocked out wolverine in a berserker rage before.
Originally, his claws were implants with surgically reconstructed tissues, there was a splash panel showing the pre-adamantium bones procedure where they were implanting the claws, and doing who knows what else
This is awesome. I have NEVER seen anything like it. And it gives SO much more to the heroes and villains. And it gives reason, why's and HOW of some of their powers work.
I LOOOVE this style of drawing of yours❤️ Plus you're REALLY good at this stuff.😌🙏👏
Thanks so much Fury! I hope you watched some of my other videos, then? Also, you should definitely order the book, it is designed for you!
@@JonahLobeDraws i totally will. Though..need to save up first😅💸 i'm not the most wealthy person😅🙏
But fir suuure i will😁🙌😉👍
I gotta say, the little tangent on Wolverine's relatability, and wishing you could do something like that? I totally get where you are coming from. I certainly have moments where i wish i could perform some superhuman feats for less than righteous purposes.
It's a real feeling! Thanks Deth for the comment. Hope you got to watch my other vids too!
“… I invented him when I was 7.” *Adamantium pitch forks lowering…*
Hahaha awesome video Jonah. Perfect choice having the process of his claws extending was great and I never even considered the inking nuances that help mask anatomical issues with having three right arms blend into a motioned action.
Also your general advice on tackling any large task is absolutely dead on. It reminded me vaguely of a book on the subject titled “Eat That Frog” and the way you specifically worded your approach to large tasks is genuinely going to stick with me, and I love the positivity surrounding that. Excellent super power.
MANTIS! How awesome! My childhood super hero was a stick figure with a cape and boxing gloves named Mr Ka-powie… and Thing from the addams family because I liked that in 3rd grade and why not. Significantly neater than my design hahaha, but also I thought of Michael Scott from the Office claiming to have invented unicorns. You did not take that route with Mantis hahaha.
You have such a great grasp of the characters, and your passion for the project comes out tenfold in these videos. It’s great, and another wonderful one, and the process is as gorgeous as it is fascinating. “Not too shabby” at all good sir.
AGH! That dramatization was painfully funny and tragic. Dang! So sorry that happened. Sounds like a mistake the smartest man in the multiverse could make… speaking of, I think Dr. Richards would be an awesome candidate for the next video. I can’t imagine the artistic liberty taken to bend and adapt a rigid anatomy to Fantastical proportions… pun intended
Thanks so much for all the kind words! I had a blast making this video, it's too bad the art ultimately was... compromised.
Maybe one day Mr. Ka-powie will team up with Mantis, eh?? We'll get there, one bite at a time...
Your energy is infectious brother. You earned a sub. It’s jaw dropping to see your talent on display. Thank you for sharing with us!
Much love Jay, I really appreciate the love and support!!
This was inspirational, entertaining, and educational. And at the same time, it generated huge amounts of rage and jealousy due to witnessing such skill and humility in the delivery. I loved your wisdom and encouragement.
All in all, I both love and hate you with the same amount of ferocity that Wolverine felt within that test chamber.
Wishing you all the success and praise you deserve. Hope to one day support you more financially. But at the moment, this is all I can afford. ❤🎉😅
Love this comment, hahaha. I am happy to have commenters like you watching my vids! Hope you subscribed, got more coming imminently!
This is such a cool concept for an art and comics video. Never seen this before very cool!
That is so much awesome! Wolverine’s been my favorite comic book character ever since I picked up Uncanny X-Men #276 off the shelves of my local convenience store. I absolutely love this take on his anatomy! Amazing work! Sorry you flattened the image at the end 😢
Thank you Michael for sharing that memory, I love it! Hope you subscribed and got a chance to watch my other videos.
@@JonahLobeDraws subscribed and hit the notification bell! Will definitely be watching your content!
As a Graphic Artist myself...
this is why I save all my files along the way : elements.pdf, working.pdf, working02.pdf, test.pdf, proof.pdf, sample4print.pdf....
loosing layers suuuuuuUUUUUUUuuuucks
Great work though bro! I'll have to grab the book next paycheck lol
You feel my pain, Ryan!
This just make me think a Six armed hybridized wolverine/Spider-man would be terrifying 😮
You hear that Marvel??
I just found this channel because of this video (I love love love Logan), and now I am subscribed. Love your stuff, friend. Thank you for sharing!
My pleasure Ben, thanks so much for subs I’ve! Got some cool stuff on the way.
I think the armes need some actions lines. To show that it is in movement. Kinda like dragon ball.
That's a great idea, and precisely the sort of thinking I'll have to employ as I start working on my first original comic book this year. Stay tuned Esben!
Amazing art, but it would have been a good idea to check how protractile claws work. For example, the claws of cats remain retracted passively. No energy required to keep them hidden. They use muscles only to pull them out.
In your idea, it's clear how the claws are retracted, but not so much how they are extended. An antagonist muscle is missing. The tendon locking present in bat feet (so they can sleep while hanging) could also give you some ideas
Alberto I like your thought process, but cat claws are actually just the tips of their feet. Their bones are bent backwards on top of their paws, they simply move them forward to push out the claws. If wolverine had this, he’s have HUGE finger joints running backward down his arm.
@@JonahLobeDraws I meant more the general mechanism of how they extend and retract the claw. You're right though, it would be difficult to make a compact set of joints with that much translation between extended and retracted.
Something that could work is a tendon that keeps wolverine's claws retracted, like the muscles you drew, and a set of muscles that connects the base of the claws with the knuckles/wrist (kinda like a slingshot or bow), so when these muscles are contracted, they pull the base of the claws towards the knuckles/wrist, pulling part of the claws out between the knuckles
This is exquisite work. It's inspiring to watch it come together!
I feel your pain about the accidentally flattened Photoshop layers. It is a rug pulled from beneath the feet of our hearts. It is a sword of regret thrust through our gut. It is another awkward metaphor describing a sudden, hollow pain.
My *only* tiny nitpick is that ordinary muscles can't "push." They can only contract. Of course, given your incredible knowledge of anatomy you *know* this, but it was bothering me. The muscles at the base of his claws could retract them, but a reciprocal force would be required to pull them out. But! This drawing done so well - for a fictional character with fictional metal claws - that "ordinary" muscles need not apply. Perhaps the bundles you've depicted are a mutant combination of contracting muscle fiber and springy fascia do both jobs.
(sips geek tea) Please discuss.
You are 💯 correct, sir! The way I did this was certainly not the anatomically, correct way. Ultimately, as you say, I had to make sacrifices to the aesthetic gods. Let’s just call these mutant muscles, they are the first step in muscles that can punch, and that’s why the humans are afraid of them
Never heard about this, but since I am a fan of Wolverine and hardcover artbooks, I am definitely getting it❤
Wonderful, you’ll love it Pavel! I personally guarantee it.
Hey Jonah can you please do the incredible hulk next, I'm really interested on how his anatomy works and beautiful art you never cease to amaze me 💯💯🔥🔥🔥
Thanks so much Jarmen! I've been meaning to make an episode with him, so I'll start drafting up something for him very soon ok? Thanks for subscribing and commenting!
@@JonahLobeDraws are you kidding, man you deserve thousands upon millions of Comments/Likes, this artwork is beautiful🔥🔥
@@jarmenedwards2437 Let's just hope those thousands find me!!
@@JonahLobeDraws do not worry my friend, they will come
I've always thought of the muscles working as a set. You'd have to have muscles pull from one direction and then pull back from the other direction.
This is true!
@@JonahLobeDraws The hardest part is making room for those muscles and at what point his muscles are considered "relaxed". I love the idea that you came up with the radius and ulna expanding to make room. I have a brother in law who naturally has thick forearms and I always wondered what a real logan's arms would look like.
Very nice work! Thanks for giving us some insight on the workflow! By the way i really like your stylized anatomy, they kind of remind me of william rimmer! I was wondering which artists did you look up to to model your anatomical knowledge out of?
What a great comparison, thank you Karlson! And I'm so glad you enjoyed the video - stay tuned for my next one very soon. And when it came to other artists, my favorites have been Loomis (SO helpful), Hampton, and Bridgman! They're the ones I've turned to most, at least. What about you?
@@JonahLobeDraws Thanks for your reply! Ive always wanted to check out Loomis, but I've just been sticking to the artists you mentioned in addition to william rimmer's art anatomy!
@@JonahLobeDraws also looking to get your marvel anatomy book! Although im not too into marvel characters, they way you portray them is very interesting. Very cool and unique project, thank you for making this!
@@karlsoncheng4792 Thank you! I also wasn't THAT big into heroes before I started the project, but there were aspects of it that appealed to my more creative nature so I think you'll really appreciate those aspects. Or I hope so!
@@JonahLobeDraws Hey man, I'm sure it'll be amazing. By the way, I really look up to you as an artist and creative designer! May I ask how did you get to where you are today, and perhaps what are some significant milestones that you think someone following in your footsteps should be aiming for?
I love Human Anatomy and Wolverine happens to be my favorite Marvel Superhero.
Thank you, UA-cam algorithm for bringing me here.
Yayyy Sam! Glad you found me. Be sure to subscribe for a lot more like this!
I see, I click. Let's go!
I love the enthusiasm, thank you Gold!
To be honest I think 🤔 you did an amazing job on an iconic character
Thank you Ever! You should be sure to watch my other videos as well. Also, I’m on Instagram!
A different take on the claw muscle is they attach near the wrist, extend back, and contract to the wrist to pull the claw out. I think that was in the Marvel cards from the early 90s.
I think you should have made the muscles the other way, so it would be like the diaphragm, as, when it is activated, the claws would pierce the skin and get out of his hand (the claws would also be fixed and not moved thanks to the tension produced by them). As relaxed muscles tend to be elongated when they are relaxed. If not, as in this case, there should be another accessory muscles which would pop out the claws out of the hand, or a fascia, that's how movement is mainly produced inside our body, thanks to tensions of muscles, tendons, ligaments... Awesome drawing nonetheless, you are an amazing artist, hope you can keep uploding such great content.
Thanks so much for this analysis Crack! Enjoy my other videos my friend, see you soon.
It’s been decades since I’ve read a comic book, but I do remember, I liked Wolverine’s original iteration, when his claws the artificial weapons that extended from the adamantium in his forearms and not bone that was covered in adamantium. The whole bone claw thing never made much since to me on a physiological level. But, great piece, really like the illustration.
Thank you! I hope you get a look at my other videos?
I'm a 3D artist with a big focus on characters and anatomy, I absolutely love this, stumbled across this video and I'm gonna watch the best and purchase the book!
Fantastic Kyle, so glad to hear you enjoyed it. As a 3D artist, you should 100% watch my Creature Design videos here online, as well as my Skyrim documentary! You'll be more interested than most.
@@JonahLobeDraws I absolutely will! Awesome artwork and content Jonah, didn't realise I was already following you on artstation!
Rogue: "When they come out... does it hurt?"
Wolverine: "Every time."
Great quote. Calvin have you watched any of my other vids yet?
@@JonahLobeDraws to be honest, I haven't yet. But I will :) this one is amazing!
@@CalvinMagnusMusic My most recent one is Venom, released this weekend. you'll dig!
@@JonahLobeDraws oh man, I'm gonna watch that for sure! Thanks, and keep up the good work :)
Yo your illustrations on the anatomy book are so cool dude!
Thanks so much Phoenix! Hope you get a chance to watch my other videos too. And you can see more work of mine on Instagram - come say hello!
@@JonahLobeDraws I’ll definitely check out some of your other videos and I’ll check out the instagram as well. Your art is amazing I’m a big fan!
@@thephoenix8707 Thank you so much! See you soon then!
This wonderful little short reminded me of recently got to relive my childhood power fantasy of being Wolverine
VR has a game called Battle Talent. A game where you can mod in functioning, retractable Wolverine claws and fight goblins and monsters
I have never had so much fun in my whole damn life
Oh my GOD I WANT TO PLAY THAT??
ive quickly become addicted to this series its like nerd bob ross lmao
"Nerd Bob Ross" hahah I can live with that!!
@@JonahLobeDraws u better coin that, also are u still uploading the anatomy series im buying the book but the bts is fascinating
@@imnotkiddingg it remains to be seen whether I can continue the series, I have gotten very little support on Patreon…
That merged layers save hurt my soul lol. Ive done it too many times to count
You know, my pain, Bryan! Also, since you are a fellow artist, you should definitely follow my channel and maybe join me during my live streams on twitch! You would fit right in.
That was the coolest video I've ever seen. Will watch 100 of these. Happy UA-cam recommended you. Great job. I enjoyed the wisdom in the middle too. That's a good format.
Thanks Ben!!! I tried to add a little bit of myself in all the videos, get a little art education in there, make them entertaining… I do my best!
Lastly, you can push your git repo to a RAID 1 server or the cloud like OneDrive. So you can work local and have a remote headless (no actual files, just the guts of a git repository) in a safe space with all your commits (full history) available in case your local machine goes belly up.
Thank you for this Anthony! I actually have the whole computer backed up with backblaze, but because of my own idiocy, I had never saved it at the right time to be of use/later recovery
Trying to make sense of Wolverine's claws is a herculean task. The claws are longer than his forearms. They're often illustrated too thick and curved. The blades or claws would need a tang to anchor them when extended. He needs muscles to pull the claws out and other muscles to pull them back in. Conversely he could have hydraulic muscles like the launching tentacles of a squid.
Yes, this was how much more difficult proposition that I originally thought!
So obviously creative freedom. I think you're project was well done.
Just added insight. The claws should have muscles the retract and extention separately. The extention would be larger to keep them put even when hitting tough objects. The retract don't have to be large because it would never take much to pull them back in.
The extention could be blood sack covered in dense muscle that can fill up without bursting because the muscle is strong. Would save a lot of space when drawing. Would be simple tubes. While the retract would be smaller tendons lined with muscle similar to fingers.
I bought his book, but keeping it wrapped as a collectable. Might get a 2nd copy just to explore myself. Its amazing to see this stuff when i started comics in the 80s n 90s, and just how far things have come
You haven't even read it yet?? David, you should read it and enjoy it! If you like, you can buy an autographed copy of the book from my website.
Excellent piece, the detail to the mechanics of his metal claws where my favorite part. 🤙🏾
Thanks so much Alexander! Hope you got to watch my previous vids?
Great artwork. The only problem I can see with this is that mother nature doesn't actually allow for this type of mutation in humans. She doesn't waste space. There simply isnt enough room in our forearms to store three large claws and still have enough room for all the bone and muscle needed to make this work. But that's the beauty of comics isn't it? We can escape what "is possible" and dabble in the "what isn't" and that's so much more fun. If this was possible.... I'm pretty sure this is exactly how it would work.
Lol thank you Victor! Yeah inventing 230 pages of fake anatomy was certainly a challenge. Hope you get to watch my other videos too!
Jonah, maybe I missed it, but it appears to me that you put muscles at the base of each claw. However, muscles *only* contract. Therefore those muscles would pull the claws in but not push them out. Do you have additional anatomy designed for deploying the claws? In nature I think this problem is often solved by muscles that squeeze tissue or fluid at the base of the appendage that needs to be extended. Like how squeezing a turkey baster pushes fluid away from the bulb. Anyway, just my 2 cents. Your art is beautiful!
Thanks Keith! You are totally right about the muscles, but as you may have read in other comments, ultimately, I had to do what I did for aesthetic purposes
@@JonahLobeDraws Cool. Very understandable!
I've always wondered this... thanks for satisfying my curiousity. Can't wait to get my copy of the book
Me too Sly! Let me know when it arrived ;)
One thing from the BWS comic Weapon X. You see an interesting internal view of his claws and forearms and there’s numerous bony nodules located on his long forearm bones, my theory is that they attach the complex structures that allow him to control his claws. This makes sense because he is not a particularly large man but he is known for being very densely muscular with large arms
Muscles always contract to create movement. The muscles you used don’t make a lot of sense. At least in the way you describe them. They would need to be contracted all the time to retain the claws. One of the only muscle we have that acts similarly is our diaphragm. His claws should probably use two different sets of muscles, maybe even with a ratcheting system (like how actin and myosin work). But if your idea works, it would be that the muscles are in contraction while the claws are in, and when the contraction is released a strong ligament pulls the claws forward and out. I’d also like to see more bone structures in the hand and wrist to lock the claws in place because I’ve always thought that they would be in need of reinforcement since their exposed length indicates that they have very little left inside the hand. Fun experiment though.
Brian, you're 100% correct. I initially designed the muscle system to have 6 muscles, for pushing and pulling, but I couldn't come up with an elegant way to show that, and things started looking messy and unintelligible really quickly. I researched ways to get around this, but I couldn't find an analog system in the real world that I could apply in an elegant way to his arms. Ultimately, because of time constraints and the fact that this is all purely fictional, I just sort of had to fudge it and hope that it looked cool enough to pass initial muster! Thanks for the comment and the thoughts, I'd love to know what you think of my other videos too, on Vision and Spider-Man especially.
Flattening the image is a habit I broke myself of quickly, now what I do is Shift,Ctrl,alt, E to flatten the image while still keeping the psd intact also highlighting all the layers below and make them into a group( Ctrl+g) so all that shows in the layers palette is flattened image, group and original background image. Fairly certain this is redundant advice for one of your skill. Lol. Anyway thanks for the great vid
Ahha a fellow artist! Jelly you should absolutely come join my Twitch stream some time, Monday-Wed-Fri!!
7:33 such good advice for anyone. Especially a young person like me. I’m only 23 and shifting a lot of things in my life. Work is stressful, I just broke up with my high school sweetheart and things are just rough all over. But as long as I make it back tomorrow, things will be okay
Thanks dude!
Great outlook Wanderer. I’m sorry to hear about yr breakup. But high school sweethearts are usually not great to carry forward too far, imho… we change too much in life! But much love to you, hope you can watch some of my other videos (I have more advices haha) and feel free to come say hello on Instagram!
Ey Jonah, I have a question. The claws came out between the bones of the forearm and then break through the carpal bones, or they pass above the carpals? and if they break through, are they actually break the carpals to pass, or the bones take a side to give them space to release?
I think they maybe pass through gaps in the carpals? I drew them as if they go on top tho…
The idea of Logan being uncomfortable until his claws pop adds layers to his agression
Watching this drawing come together was very satisfying.
Excellent!
I wrote this comment in another video.
Just FYI, this stuff is called True Adamantium, it does not contain any Vibranium.
Captain America’s shield is a Vabraniun alloy that includes steel and a 3rd unknown ingredient. It is the hardest know substance and was never able to be duplicated since it was created accidentally.
Wolverine’s True Adamantium cannot damage Captain America’s Vibranium alloy shield.
True Adamantium is virtually indestructible but a cylinder made of it was dented once when Thor hit it with all his strength using Mjolnir. Also Ultron’s True Adamantium body was also slightly dented when Hulk punched him full force.
Vibranium alloy on Cap’s shield is considered indestructible and the only item of its kind in Marvel Universe. It has only been damaged with Godly forces a few times, once when Thanos used the Infinity Gauntlet to punch the shield.
Pure Vibranium actually may not be tough at all but does have the unique characteristic of deflecting all force on it through some sort of perfect resonance like a tuning fork. So all force is reflected off a Vibranium surface at all times effectively nullifying it no matter how hard you hit it.
With regards to Logan, his Adamantium laced skeleton is extremely heavy, several hundred pounds, as such, he is physically a powerhouse, not Superman strong but think world class power lifter strong because he is constantly lugging that weight around. His punches or slashes are extremely weighted, True Adamantium is not a light metal.
Vibranium alloy in Captain America’s shield is very light and that’s why he can throw it like a frisbee.
Pure Vibranium is actually feather light despite being indestructible.
Logan is a feral creature with meta human peak level senses of smell, hearing, and touch. He has acute vision and incredibly fast reflexes with very heavy clawed punches.
His healing factor is so potent he withstood his entire body being shredded to pieces with his eyes popping out if his skull when he went against dozens of wendigo snow beasts and was regenerated within hours.
His is a formidable opponent and has tussled with super powerful bruisers like the Hulk to super soldiers like Captain America and held his own in battle. His healing factor gives him near limitless stamina and he can withstand hunger for long periods of time and he ages very slowly. Charles Xavier has said the only way to kill him is to fully decapitate him.
Truly Wolverine is the most dangerous man in the Marvel Universe.
“I’m the best at what I do bub, although what I do is not very nice.”
This is all canon.
Excellent information! I hope you get a chance to watch my other videos, you seem to have the knowledge base to really appreciate these characters.
@@JonahLobeDraws I just found your channel and will definitely check out your other videos! Great content!