*Q1 Your opinion on Twister Dimensions?* *Q2 Any good strat for Twisted Dimensions?* *Q3 Name a fully evolved pokemon who has a speed less than 50?* (Team, Discord in description)
Thanks for including my battle :) Also for those who don't know, iron hands moved before the ting-lu because it had iron ball, that's why I went to conk to knock it off (I was iron ball too)
Belly Drum Munchlax may be an exciting choice. There is NOTHING slower than Munchlax in the Metagame, with it being only 5-speed fast. Yeah, it's not a standalone sweeper, as 85 base attack, even at +6, may not get through the tankiest of walls, but as a late-game cleaner? Yeah, I think this should work. Also, it's still pretty damn bulky on the special side with 135/85 Special Defense, so finding a moment to set up here shouldn't be that much of a problem. Thick Club Marowak should be solid as well. While 45 base speed isn't that slow, it's good enough, and after one Swords Dance, it's like you are at +4. Bulk is ok at 60/110/80. In this case, pairing it up with a 'fast' bulky U-turner may do the trick, so it takes the hit first. Comfey may work? It's pretty 'fast' at 100 speed, so should always U-Turn, while taking the hit first.
Some new fun megas to "balance" the game: Mega Dialga Type: Steel/Dragon Ability: Temporal Healing - at the end of every other turn, Dialga heals 50% of damage received during the last 2 turns HP 100 Atk 120 Def 140 SpA 170 SpD 140 Spe 110 Mega Palkia Type: Water/Dragon Ability: Spatial Power - Palkia's moves never miss and get +1 crit rate HP 90 Atk 120 Def 120 SpA 170 SpD 140 Spe 140 Mega Giratina Type: Ghost/Dragon Ability: Distortion Surge - sets up Distortion Terrain for 5 turns on entry (grounded mons have their abilities and stat stage changes negated as long as the terrain is active) HP 150 Atk 140 Def 120 SpA 140 SpD 120 Spe 110 Mega Arceus Type: Normal Ability: Stellar Plate - normal type moves have 0.8x power, but always deal super effective damage; super effective moves used against Arceus have neutral effectiveness instead HP 120 Atk 150 Def 130 SpA 150 SpD 130 Spe 140
There's a fact that pokemon with speed over 3000 will always move first even though in trick room, so if max speed regieliki was used will it be faster here
@@dracomenace Regieleki does learn Agility though, which allows it to reach over 3000 Speed at Max EV Speed with or without Speed-boosting Nature like Timid after using it twice or three times iirc.
Arboliva with grassy seed is good in the regular formats but imagine what it could do here also is the iron hands 0 speed iv and brave nature or is it holding an item like iron ball or lagging tail
as of rn, tr does not work, tho it should soon. also, i tried tr out when the meta was only coded on a side server, and uh, its not good imo. deo-a unleashed isnt worth
so in this metagame iron ball is pretty much choice scarf but better edit 1: also he probably didn't put a negative speed nature on ting-lu or he didnt set its speed IV's to zero maybe both edit 2: 5:05 he knocked off your iron ball
2:14 -im gonna guess either iron ball, or i think one of the brace items lowers speed Edit: not brace items, the power items halve speed, its essentially a better scarf with no downsides
We can see the iron ball later when the opponent use knock out 5:03 So idk why he asks that, the answer is obvious, he forgot the item i think and 5:15 seems to confirm that
It may sound stupid, but power trick shuckle may have an actual chance in this meta. Also arm hammer (i think it was called something like that) it's pretty bustes here
I played some, here are some vids: ua-cam.com/video/4RvZy35oVhg/v-deo.htmlsi=NZXqkUBcE2yNEQYg ua-cam.com/video/JNQKBTDMIOk/v-deo.htmlsi=_pI4K86nE6daqJ6L
By re-twisting, did you mean the room becomes normal? because I went ahead and tried it after reading that and it seems trick room is just regular trick room. Slow pokemon still moves first.
you could've actually stopped hatt in the last battle by parting shotting and getting it sent out from magic bounce, weird tech that VGC players use all the time versus hatt
try encore eviolite munchlax it has an insanely fast encore and with thick fat checks torkoal pretty well, even with just max hp max attack. You can also fun facade and curse on it to set up and so It doesn't care about burns
*Q1 Your opinion on Twister Dimensions?*
*Q2 Any good strat for Twisted Dimensions?*
*Q3 Name a fully evolved pokemon who has a speed less than 50?*
(Team, Discord in description)
My answer:
1. Looks fun
2. Coming soon
3. Hatterene
1. Pretty cool
2. Yeah probably just a super fast team with trick room
3. Conkeldurr
A1 L cuz Blaziken unviable👎👎👎
A2 nah
A3 Flairgrance (Aromatisse evo in Elite Redux; has 29 speed)
1. Very Excited, even in Singles TR strats are my thing
2. The CRAB, aka Crabominable
3. Crabominable, and Dragalge
1.- looks fun
2.- Iron ball it's OP, give it to a medicham and there's a good chance they are good
3.- macargo
Thanks for including my battle :)
Also for those who don't know, iron hands moved before the ting-lu because it had iron ball, that's why I went to conk to knock it off (I was iron ball too)
You made a good play, liked that
iron ball is basically choice scarf without any limitations, it is wild
It's actually a choice scarf that offers +2 speed
The only downside Is that if you give iron ball to a mon with flying type/levitate it's not neutral to ground
@@matteoc83/ weakness if that the other type is weak to ground
Glastier is so slow that even mons with stickyweb cant outspeed him 💀
Fr lol
CONTRARY TRAILBLAZE LURANTIS ‘BOUT TO GO WILD
HELL YEAH!
LEZ GOO
YOI!
@@dracomenacelol google auto translated your statement to go fast even tho u said lez go lol
@@thedancingllama_13GO FAST
Since you do not need speed evs you can invest in your main Attacking stat and also in HP, Def, or Sp.Def making every mon bulkier than usual too!
Indeed
Also every Pokémon can do a minus speed nature, making the choice of nature a bit easier.
Curse Sylveon for the win!!!
XD Curse & Quiver dance swapping roles here is crazy
More like curse and victory dance
Ok but this is an excuse to use Facade on Sylveon
Again
Or Doubple edge.
@@captaincanterberrystudios6920 body slam being a risky choice cause you *could* Paralyze, but you would *definitely* lower their speed XD
you should make a trick room team for this meta with fast sweepers just because why not
i also love how curse becomes victory dance
Lmao that be a fun challenge
the smogon thread says that trick room fails
3:24 that Glastrier sweep is just GOATED 🗿
Fr
@dracomenace you're a GOAT man
Jupiter completes a rotation of the Sun every 11.86 years
@@BarbersBorders well its trying its best for being so "plus sized"
Revolution*
Completes it in less than a year under trick room.
I'm so excited for this meta, I want to try Self-Sticky Webs especially since Hatt is probably common
I'll try it too
no matter how funny self webs is, never do it, since its begging for a mon to switch in on the court change turn, set up, and win on the spot
@@sylviasolrock webs vs Hatterene instantly puts them on your side
@@StormlordOG insanely MU fishy, and no sane person switches it in when its obvs theres a web setter
Belly Drum Munchlax may be an exciting choice. There is NOTHING slower than Munchlax in the Metagame, with it being only 5-speed fast. Yeah, it's not a standalone sweeper, as 85 base attack, even at +6, may not get through the tankiest of walls, but as a late-game cleaner? Yeah, I think this should work. Also, it's still pretty damn bulky on the special side with 135/85 Special Defense, so finding a moment to set up here shouldn't be that much of a problem.
Thick Club Marowak should be solid as well. While 45 base speed isn't that slow, it's good enough, and after one Swords Dance, it's like you are at +4. Bulk is ok at 60/110/80. In this case, pairing it up with a 'fast' bulky U-turner may do the trick, so it takes the hit first. Comfey may work? It's pretty 'fast' at 100 speed, so should always U-Turn, while taking the hit first.
Sounds nice
MnM Doubles seems like a cool format, but I can't build a good team because my brain thinks of like 1 quadrillion ideas per second ☠️🙏
Lmao doubles OM is always crazy and don't touch it usually lol
2:15 iron ball iron hands lmao
Yep
8:26 "No way! We're gonna lose now!" or "No way we're gonna lose now!" LMAO
Why not both
*Sicko Bamba plays*
Had to comment twice cus I'm so hyped lol. Crabominable just went crazy. Ice Hammer is busted AND lowers Speed, so it's a perfect fit
I also thought of using that
Some new fun megas to "balance" the game:
Mega Dialga
Type: Steel/Dragon
Ability: Temporal Healing - at the end of every other turn, Dialga heals 50% of damage received during the last 2 turns
HP 100
Atk 120
Def 140
SpA 170
SpD 140
Spe 110
Mega Palkia
Type: Water/Dragon
Ability: Spatial Power - Palkia's moves never miss and get +1 crit rate
HP 90
Atk 120
Def 120
SpA 170
SpD 140
Spe 140
Mega Giratina
Type: Ghost/Dragon
Ability: Distortion Surge - sets up Distortion Terrain for 5 turns on entry (grounded mons have their abilities and stat stage changes negated as long as the terrain is active)
HP 150
Atk 140
Def 120
SpA 140
SpD 120
Spe 110
Mega Arceus
Type: Normal
Ability: Stellar Plate - normal type moves have 0.8x power, but always deal super effective damage; super effective moves used against Arceus have neutral effectiveness instead
HP 120
Atk 150
Def 130
SpA 150
SpD 130
Spe 140
ah yes very fun and balanced
Oh wow these are totally balanced!
yea guys those megas are very balanced, anyways nerf Cosmog 😃👍
@@silver_was_found *Balanced*
@@dracomenace """Balanced"""
There's a fact that pokemon with speed over 3000 will always move first even though in trick room, so if max speed regieliki was used will it be faster here
Eleki has to be at like 1000 level
@@dracomenace Regieleki does learn Agility though, which allows it to reach over 3000 Speed at Max EV Speed with or without Speed-boosting Nature like Timid after using it twice or three times iirc.
That Court Change team was brilliant😮
Ikr
I just realized curse and victory dance switch places, now V dance needs TR to be a "fast" sweeper
Yep
pretty cool idea from smogon here actually...I would love to make Dragalge work here
Sounds neat
Ting lu probably had -spa nature still instead of going -speed
Nope, wrong answer
Arboliva with grassy seed is good in the regular formats but imagine what it could do here also is the iron hands 0 speed iv and brave nature or is it holding an item like iron ball or lagging tail
True
would be fun if you tried a normally fast mon but gave it something like iron ball/the power items and just made it really deadly
Iron hands was actually this
Try out some of these mons
Rampardos
Hippowdon
Gastrodon
Mudsdale
Avalugg
Quagsire
Lurantis
Dipplin
Greedent
Orthworm
Probopass
Dusknoir
Marcargo
Bronzong
Carbink
Eelektross
Rhyperior
Rabsca
Vileplume/Bellosom
Crabominable
Slowbro
Slowking
Araquanid
Bastiodon
Golurk
Reuniclus
Granbull
Beartic
Hydrapple
Torterra
Thanks, I'll re check
You should try choice band Rampardos
Looks neat
trick room team with fast mons would be pretty funny to see
Lmao
as of rn, tr does not work, tho it should soon. also, i tried tr out when the meta was only coded on a side server, and uh, its not good imo. deo-a unleashed isnt worth
so in this metagame iron ball is pretty much choice scarf but better
edit 1: also he probably didn't put a negative speed nature on ting-lu or he didnt set its speed IV's to zero maybe both
edit 2: 5:05 he knocked off your iron ball
Correct
Iron ball relevance!🗣️
🗿
2:14 -im gonna guess either iron ball, or i think one of the brace items lowers speed
Edit: not brace items, the power items halve speed, its essentially a better scarf with no downsides
We can see the iron ball later when the opponent use knock out 5:03
So idk why he asks that, the answer is obvious, he forgot the item i think and 5:15 seems to confirm that
I knew that it got knocked off but still wanted to see if people notice that (as a hint)
Setting up sticky web on your side become viable. 😂
Ikr
Permanent trick room will ruin the game💀
Fr lol
Leader's Choice was Mix and Mega DOUBLES
Pretty basic
Still waiting on Bonus Type to re-enter the field
Could be fun with the new DLC mons
Trailblaze iron ball Lurantis is actually good in this tier
Agreed
First battle I’m guessing the Ting-Lu had an iron ball
I was talking bout hands
@@dracomenacewhirlwind has negative priority
Glastrier is a Demon in this mode I guess
Fr
2:08 you're holding iron ball
Correct
It may sound stupid, but power trick shuckle may have an actual chance in this meta.
Also arm hammer (i think it was called something like that) it's pretty bustes here
I actually thought of that, but it isn't in SV
@@dracomenace sadge. Have you thought of curse + simple?
Bidoof could actually be a god here XDDD
@@dracomenace DUDE, EVIOLITE + SIMPLE NUMEL
He learns curse, body press and earthquake. It's really good
Day 49 of dipplin
FINALLY A META WHERE DIPPLIN IS SPEED!!!
You're cooking
1:59 choice scarf hisi typhlosion
Nah it's bad in this meta
Use Trapinch, he is funny and very useful
I'll see about that
2:15 did it . . . use whirlwind for some reason instead of eq?
Nope
I'm assuming everything is min speed, so. . . An item? A lagging tail?
Maybe i'll try out this meta if only i have time 😢
You should
I feel than Stakataka will be savage in that meta
However it's not allowed
@dracomenace NOOOOOOOOO
okay this may sound stupid
but try and to the funny setup to outspeed trick room
I was thinking about that
I need some inspirations for my Godly Gift team. So, can you play it next, please?
I played some, here are some vids:
ua-cam.com/video/4RvZy35oVhg/v-deo.htmlsi=NZXqkUBcE2yNEQYg
ua-cam.com/video/JNQKBTDMIOk/v-deo.htmlsi=_pI4K86nE6daqJ6L
By re-twisting, did you mean the room becomes normal? because I went ahead and tried it after reading that and it seems trick room is just regular trick room. Slow pokemon still moves first.
I was actually informed about that and didn't practice it myself
Can you actually use moves like hammer arm?
Yes
Tail wind + Court change
Webs is more reliable
you could've actually stopped hatt in the last battle by parting shotting and getting it sent out from magic bounce, weird tech that VGC players use all the time versus hatt
True
4:52 empoleon could be slower if it was using 0 IVS and a nature that lowers speed
We have iron ball on hands
@dracomenace oh XD
does trick room only last for 4 turns or does it twist them permenantly?
permanently
Permanently
What is the name of the first song in the video
Check the description
Try to use level 95 mons, i can assure you they'll be faster than any variant of theirs and their stats don't change almost anything
Sounds neat actually
@dracomenace after testing most of the times 96 and 95 have the same speed so maybe use 96 instead
Only level 100 can be used 😔
Imagine curse sets 👀
Indeed, it's OP
@@dracomenace At least against physical mons, unless your a snorlax with 252 spdef i don't see it lasting forever
Eruption tokoal imagin
Using it
make a team with rainbow terrain
That's in doubles I think
I think you're video's music credit is wrong. All three of them.
Fixin'
Iron hands w/ iron ball and minus speed nature? Only thing I can figure
Yep
Does lagging tail have any play here
Nope, it always makes you move last
What happens if we trick lagging tail
The pokemon becomes slower (faster in this meta)
@@dracomenace lagging tail = better scarf?
WAIT, PRANKSTER + TRICK SCARF IS GONNA BE SO TERRIBLE!!!
now do banded trapinch in here..?
Lmao, sounds fun
Imma be honest, this feels like a bad idea for a metagame to me.
Rn it seems fun, might get repetitive over time
Os iron hands holding something to make it slowet?
Yes
Iron ball on iron hands?
Correct
dayum 1 min ago
GG
Man, fast pokemon are practically useless here, becase most fast mons are frail, so now mons like meows are slow AND frail
Ikr
3rd
fourth*
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It says I’m first in newest comments
GG
Probably Iron Ball?
Correct
First Comment!
GG
This metagame has no interest whatsoever. It's Iron Ball spam. And it's not different from OU
Iron ball should get banned
try encore eviolite munchlax it has an insanely fast encore and with thick fat checks torkoal pretty well, even with just max hp max attack. You can also fun facade and curse on it to set up and so It doesn't care about burns
Sounds neat