How cool is Grover? I love Grover for being the one who worked with Randy Rhoads on his Concorde design and that the guitar is still being produced 37 years later. Means the world to those of us who love Randy and want his legacy to endure.
I bought a used 2018 Friedman Vintage S and I absolutely LOVE it! It's the best (true) S-style guitar I've ever played. Super light and the most resonant S7r@t ever. the pickups sounds wonderful. I cannot put it down and it will be my main instrument for the upcoming gigs.
I understand the knock on the relic'd guitars. But I just had a relic'd noho shipped to me to try out. Best playing guitar I ever put my hands on and I've owned the best of the best. The neck was just incredibly smooth. It's hard to explain but the guitar just has a cool vibe to it. Like a broke in pair of 501's.
And Dave said it best...a relic-ed guitar is no longer "drowned in finish" (paint and clear coat), the wood can resonate more freely and RING better...i think it's brilliant
@@lorenhartman801 Grover Jackson was making guitars when Paul Smith was still in high school. I'm not knocking PRS at all, but 'cmon man. :) Grover pioneered compound radius fret boards FFS...
Prestige (Grover name) and Quality and Demand. Usually cost cutting is for them not for us, unfortunately. Have yet to find someone who hated their Friedman tbh. But yeah cmon lets bring that Noho price down ;)
Saw your video on that. Can't wait to see the result too! Do you know if they offer roasted flamed maple necks? Can't find that info anywhere. But they are a custom shop so I'd imagine it'd be possible, right?
as for the licking.... well, it’s already mine, so no need to do that! As for the roasted maple... just call and find out, but I think they could do that!
Is there such a thing as relicking a guitar based on the purchasers tendencies, wedding ring scuffs, watch dings, bracelet marring, certain picking techniques etc? I do believe this is the way to go when it comes to relicking because then there will be a certain synergy with the client. :) I mean, why have a guitar relicked based on someone else tendencies and parameters? :)
I really wish the relicing was an option. It’s WAY overdone on Friedmans stuff. I walked away from three Friedman’s yesterday in Orlando because the relicing looked like ass. It’s a damn shame.
50 years from now I think that people will laugh thinking that we use to make a perfect product then we destroy it a little just to not be perfect. It is so weird!!
I’m all for American jobs but guitars hand made in posh Laguna Hills? How much will one of these fine axes take me out? Loving all cool vids Swearwater thanks. Always enjoy shopping with you guys.
Right, and: Topography = the arrangement of the natural and artificial physical features of an area. "the topography of the island" a detailed description or representation on a map of the natural and artificial features of an area.
Beautiful finishes except for the relics can’t understand why you want a new guitar to look old. When a guitar gets nicks, scratches and dents along the road of life it has a real history your history your story not something manufactured or faked.🎸
yea I get it, my 79 Les Paul is beat to crap and I love it but my first ding on my soloist sucked big time and made the guitar $500 cheaper, with these I can play it, ding it, still hold value, great guitar!
I'm sure they are awesome guitars, but does this level of automation leave any room for craftsmanship? Looks like they hardly have to do anything but spray them..
I would have thought Dave would be making a neck through design rather than set neck or bolt on....for that kind of money for me, that is the deal breaker.
It’s funny Jackson pioneered so many things , but to be honest the relics are a waste! Let it wear over time !! These guitars are way more advanced than the big F !
As much as the other stuff is great, the part when they showed that they also do the relic thing, that was cringe inducing and made me lose most of the respect that has built up until then. I guess most companies today will gladly destroy their own stuff if people will pay more for it, rather than staying competent and true to their quality products.
It's a time saver. Levelling frets by hand when your making volume orders is a no go, and machine sanding requires too frequent refreshing of the media itself. Plek is just CNC for frets. If I could afford one, I would have one.
@Electricary not quite, it really does depend on the programing, Look for instance at Gibson. All their plek'd guitars still play and feel like garbage. Then pick up any Suhr on the planet and get back to us
The Plek is faster and more accurate than any human being. Its not just about level frets either. It also crowns the frets properly -which helps with intonation. Especially on large wide frets. You can also program a “falling off” of the upper frets if you want. My only concern is that they are doing the Plek neck scan with the necks off the guitars. The most accurate way to scan the neck is to have it on the guitar and tuned to pitch. But this takes more time. They probably have a jig to simulate string load to get it right. But I’d like to see it and judge for myself. Gibson does this.
Grover is the man! Already looking into a Vintage S as I type this. Also the relic on my Vintage T is perfect !!!
That Gentleman is an absolute treasure to electric guitar history. What a great guy.
Grover seems like an awesome, soft spoken, and expert craftsmen. Glad to see he's making Tosin's Larada guitars as well, makes me want one!
How cool is Grover? I love Grover for being the one who worked with Randy Rhoads on his Concorde design and that the guitar is still being produced 37 years later. Means the world to those of us who love Randy and want his legacy to endure.
Glad to see Grover still at it and still setting the standard and innovation of high end guitars.
Very humble for a living legend. I own two Friedman calis, they're great!
Sold, i bought a friedman NOHO and never looked back, it's incredible. I sold my CS fender and a custom les paul after i got my NOHO 24.
Grover Jackson = the man. Thx for the video!
Met him back in the early 90's, he came into the GC i worked at in West Covina. Only person who recognized him... got his autograph. cool dude.
Thanks Grover and Dave
Excellent video and Grover is an artist who cares deeply of his craft and articulates it eloquently.
I bought a used 2018 Friedman Vintage S and I absolutely LOVE it! It's the best (true) S-style guitar I've ever played. Super light and the most resonant S7r@t ever. the pickups sounds wonderful. I cannot put it down and it will be my main instrument for the upcoming gigs.
Thats cool that Grover sprays every Friedman guitar! Makes me want one more, only not relic'ed..lol
Me as well! 😀
@Ron Gillespie also 4k
cry.mp4
Just received my Vintage T...these guitars are the real deal.
great video guys! Grover seems like a cool dude who really loves what he does.
Wow , what a joy to watch. Thank you Sweetwater. JP
Grover is The Man!!!👍🎸🤘🏼💯%
Very cool video for a guitar geek. This is why I buy from Sweetwater! I'll still never understand relicing a guitar.
I understand the knock on the relic'd guitars. But I just had a relic'd noho shipped to me to try out. Best playing guitar I ever put my hands on and I've owned the best of the best. The neck was just incredibly smooth. It's hard to explain but the guitar just has a cool vibe to it. Like a broke in pair of 501's.
And Dave said it best...a relic-ed guitar is no longer "drowned in finish" (paint and clear coat), the wood can resonate more freely and RING better...i think it's brilliant
Grover is the man! Best guitar builder ever.
*Paul Reed Smith has joined the chat*
@@lorenhartman801 Grover Jackson was making guitars when Paul Smith was still in high school. I'm not knocking PRS at all, but 'cmon man. :)
Grover pioneered compound radius fret boards FFS...
@@lorenhartman801 How much times does Paul spend in the workshop nowadays?
I have to say, I think Bill Collings is up there as one of the best to ever build as well.
I think this is the best video sweetwater has put out. Thanks. More like this please!
They look stunning!
Life goals: own a guitar made by Grover Jackson. Seriously.
Yes, agree
He is a master artisan
you should get one man. Those are the best guitars you can buy imo
If you haven't yet, do it. I picked up a 2019 Vintage T last year and it's probably the best decision I've ever made.
@@TM42 Same!
Great work shop . Quality brand too
Beautiful video, and what gentlemen
Travis McGillicutty of Bend, Oregon is the true master of relic finishes.
Is he with TMG?
These are gorgeous guitars.
Expensive here in Canada, but maybe one day
Technology makes for a better guitar. Handbuilding is romantic but impractical in the modern era.
I'll take my romantic pre cbs strats
A living legend!
Super cool guitars and Grover is awesome. But with all the automation, not sure why they’re so expensive?
Prestige (Grover name) and Quality and Demand. Usually cost cutting is for them not for us, unfortunately. Have yet to find someone who hated their Friedman tbh. But yeah cmon lets bring that Noho price down ;)
Marty friedman is playing jackson guitars again, grover jackson at friedman guitars, how ironic.
so awesome! That multicolor angelwing Metro D is mine... can’t wait to get it!
will you lick it?
EytschPi42 I wanna know that too
Saw your video on that. Can't wait to see the result too! Do you know if they offer roasted flamed maple necks? Can't find that info anywhere. But they are a custom shop so I'd imagine it'd be possible, right?
as for the licking.... well, it’s already mine, so no need to do that!
As for the roasted maple... just call and find out, but I think they could do that!
S.... Thanks for sharing this us . This is great I like the Video . Troy Frost troyster 😎Cool Riffs
9:34 DANZIG!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
"He is a master of the relic process"
*Beats on guitar with car keys*
🎸🥊😂
So if hes a big believer in technology and these machines replaced workers than the price of the guitars should be very low then?
Great tour, too bad we didn't see any finished guitars
You'll have to buy one😎😂😂
I have heard they are quite good
legendary man!
Awesome Grover ¡
Is there such a thing as relicking a guitar based on the purchasers tendencies, wedding ring scuffs, watch dings, bracelet marring, certain picking techniques etc? I do believe this is the way to go when it comes to relicking because then there will be a certain synergy with the client. :) I mean, why have a guitar relicked based on someone else tendencies and parameters? :)
I really wish the relicing was an option. It’s WAY overdone on Friedmans stuff. I walked away from three Friedman’s yesterday in Orlando because the relicing looked like ass. It’s a damn shame.
It’s insane how much Grover looks and sounds just like Michael Reynolds (the Earthship house creator dude)
Such a cool video!
Is It they Grover Jackson who started Jackson?
That is so cool!
peep the boss katana in the background at 15:00
Buying one of these could be like buying a 60s Strat, 30yrs from now. 🤔
WHAT>>> is that I see??? A Boss amp @14:30ish at a Friedman factory!!!
I'm in shock... lol
:0
Very nice
50 years from now I think that people will laugh thinking that we use to make a perfect product then we destroy it a little just to not be perfect. It is so weird!!
Where in Laguna Hills is this factory?
Interesting 😮
We need Friedman v’s
I’m all for American jobs but guitars hand made in posh Laguna Hills? How much will one of these fine axes take me out? Loving all cool vids Swearwater thanks. Always enjoy shopping with you guys.
plek just the neck? does anyone offer that service where i ship them my neck and they plek it?
Wait. Doesn’t he mean topography rather than topology?
Kevin Hoover he does
Right, and:
Topography = the arrangement of the natural and artificial physical features of an area.
"the topography of the island"
a detailed description or representation on a map of the natural and artificial features of an area.
Here's a useful comparison of topology vs. topography.
wikidiff.com/topology/topography
Camera guy needs to keep still!
Am I the only one who thinks it's funny that his name is GROVER JACKSON?
What a messy workshop. Not a place where ultimate quality is being produced.
Beautiful finishes except for the relics can’t understand why you want a new guitar to look old. When a guitar gets nicks, scratches and dents along the road of life it has a real history your history your story not something manufactured or faked.🎸
yea I get it, my 79 Les Paul is beat to crap and I love it but my first ding on my soloist sucked big time and made the guitar $500 cheaper, with these I can play it, ding it, still hold value, great guitar!
I'm sure they are awesome guitars, but does this level of automation leave any room for craftsmanship? Looks like they hardly have to do anything but spray them..
Dave's not here!
oops he said "fender"
I would have thought Dave would be making a neck through design rather than set neck or bolt on....for that kind of money for me, that is the deal breaker.
The only Flaw with these Guitar's, is they are made in The Peoples Republic of Kalifornia!!
So no pic of any guitars !!
Grover Jackson works for Friedman? or is an employed.
He is a subcontractor
Ok.
Sad...
Awful pricey for all that machine work. Friedman's making a mint. Or, that's just how much Grover Jackson cost.
dude thats chong
It’s funny Jackson pioneered so many things , but to be honest the relics are a waste! Let it wear over time !! These guitars are way more advanced than the big F !
Damn, the relic work makes me cringe. You silly, guitar players.
Everybody is entitled to their own thing, but I personally cannot understand the relic craziness going on. To each their own, I guess.
Like if his name was Gibson Fender...
As much as the other stuff is great, the part when they showed that they also do the relic thing, that was cringe inducing and made me lose most of the respect that has built up until then.
I guess most companies today will gladly destroy their own stuff if people will pay more for it, rather than staying competent and true to their quality products.
The Plek makes up for poor workmanship.
Not really.
It's a time saver. Levelling frets by hand when your making volume orders is a no go, and machine sanding requires too frequent refreshing of the media itself. Plek is just CNC for frets. If I could afford one, I would have one.
@Electricary not quite, it really does depend on the programing, Look for instance at Gibson. All their plek'd guitars still play and feel like garbage. Then pick up any Suhr on the planet and get back to us
@@nickh1933 Yes, you have to have some idea about what your doing -but they are hardly rocket science.
The Plek is faster and more accurate than any human being. Its not just about level frets either. It also crowns the frets properly -which helps with intonation. Especially on large wide frets. You can also program a “falling off” of the upper frets if you want.
My only concern is that they are doing the Plek neck scan with the necks off the guitars. The most accurate way to scan the neck is to have it on the guitar and tuned to pitch. But this takes more time. They probably have a jig to simulate string load to get it right. But I’d like to see it and judge for myself. Gibson does this.