Self Exploding Drive Shaft - Too Much Cummins Power...
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- This 2005 Ram 3500 needs some minor drive line work. We replace a u joint and carrier bearing. Check out @RainmanRaysRepairs
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Ahahahah! Wes I approve this message! 😁
Nice!
I always laugh a little when two channels I watch, watch and comment on each others videos. Cool to see.
No offence ray, but as a prop re-conditioner, I had to stop watching your vid (fingernails on a blackboard) but I approve Wes' message! Except of course, I wouldn't advise refitting cups full of needle rollers with A FECKIN HAMMER but its ok, I have some counselling booked for monday and my specialist says the straight jacket is merely 'a precaution' Rreeeeeeeeeeee
@@freemanjackmsiradio I did hold the joint in to keep the needles from falling out 🤷♂️
@Rainman Ray is an awesome channel. Highly recommend
Man! Great video, love that intro! I also love the use of MIG pliers 🤣🤷🏼♂️
Where’s your upload man I’m nickin for some Diesel Creek 🤪
I was going to say the same thing. Got the footprint for the shop leveled out yet Matt?
You mean my U joint pliers?
@@WatchWesWork for some reason I never used them for u-joints
I will new that you okayed it
@@whitebeast6.081 Yeah, what 👆 they said. I missed the Diesel Creek video this weekend!
It's neat to see that some of my ATF UA-cam channels are watching each others content!
Often the best part actually is Wes on screen talking. Thanks again for entertaining the sunday afternoon!
I would say talking and fixing 😊
That's always the best part.
People that criticize the way you do things:
A) Do not have a bazillion dollars worth of tools
B) Do not have a shop
C) Do not have a customer base that likes how they repair their vehicles.
D) Are sitting in a computer chair being a armchair quarterback
And finally D) Are not members of your 3 "F" club.
I personally think you are an exceptional mechanic that is somewhat OCD (which makes you even more exceptional of a mechanic as you don't quit till it is understood completely by you and repaired to some impossible standard.) knowledgeable and humorous. So don't let folks that aren't members of the three F club bother you at all Wes. Thanks for the channel and the ride along!
Dude my diesel tank is jealous of your diesel tank, glad to see you’re fuel hoarding too 😉
Shut up
@@hondaveetc82 damn who pissed in your coffee?
Gonna need to get that motorcycle running for your long commute Ray.🤔
Better start hoarding… Just filled up the truck today. $95 for 40 litres of diesel…
Hows the diesel mpg,s now you fitted that bull crusher on the front,Still need a bigger tank LOL. MY 2001 75hp Transit does 50 MPG, thats why i got it 17 years ago.
I'm 55 years old and have had a drive shaft fall off in the middle of the road. 12 dollar U joint and hammer time Job done.
I believe that dodge fit the 2 slip fits on the prop shaft to allow for the extending of the chassis as it falls apart.
I guess that once the slip fits reach full extension it's time to get some work done. :)
Thanks for making me spit my coffee clear across the room. Having owned a 2000 Dodge, you nailed it. 🤣
Nah, that just means it's time to engage front wheel drive
Yes, the rear slip yoke compensates for rear suspension compression and extension changes during driving. The slip yoke on the front compensates for frame deflection (and "normal" failure).
That's the Cummins breaking free of its shipping container.
Now, that's my kinda intro! Music and everything! Nicely done sir!
Thank you kindly!
The proper way to install a U-joint is to use whatever facilities you have that does not result in picking up and repacking the needle bearings into the cup or finding a needle between the bottom of the cup and the end of the cross. But none of that ever happened to me (roll eyes).
Also I like the judicious use of paint witness marks. Much better idea than Hansel and Greta.
Heh. I still end up doing that at least once no matter the method used...
I’ve been there so many times 😂 “hey little buddy you’re supposed to be IN the cap
@Txx9 and lined up next to its fellow bearings. I've seen em out of place and smashed at the bottom of the cup.
I have an older retired mechanic friend that always would say...
Looks like it suffered from
too much grease!
and maintain a straight face afterwards. Then ask you what was so funny? While you were laughing so hard you couldn't breath!
What a character, but always right!
Great job as always Wes!
Thanks for the entertainment!!!
It makes me so happy that all the automotive youtubers all watch each others videos :)
and that they use each others sayings too. "Not a sponsor" cracks me up every time.
@@johnh8268 yep can't forget Mr Eric O
That's how you learn. Doesn't matter how good you think you are.
@@MaxNafeHorsemanship the more u know, the more u learn what u don't know
@@agger838 Pretty much. I'll stop learning the day I die.
Wise Old Man once told me..." Opinions are like assholes.. everybody's got one and they all stink!!"..... I enjoy watching your channel ..keep doing what you're doing ..it'll be all right.
Rainman Ray's secret to success is he puts out a video every single day. I've been subbed to him for a couple months.
I don't know how he does it.
This brought back memories of changing a broken one in a Grog's Pizza parking lot. It was in the middle of the U of I campus and my friend's Galaxy dropped the driveshaft on the street. A hammer and the curb for backing it.
It's a little spooky that all of my favourite channels which I have found by accident over the years all talk to each other, Diesel creek, Wes and now Ray to name a few.
I love it when I learn something. That tutorial on U-joints not being constant velocity was great!
The damage to the cross is a lubrication issue. When a u joint explodes the cross fractures with no point of origin. When a cross breaks, the fracture generally has the grease zerk hole as point of origin of which can be seen if you know how to read different metal fractures [my case it was a training class put on by Cummins engine in 1978].
i only work on u joint 1700 series up. When dealing with full round lub. failures that the cross has worn into the cap thus expanding the end to where there is no way it will press out, I cut the cross with the torch [like SMA did tutorial] this allows for the caps to be pushed in with no damage to yoke. A rotary sand paper wheel and yoke is good.
I am with you 100% if cross wears through cap into yoke, replace yoke.
In the truck 1700 series and up full rounds, most of the caps are rusted to the yoke. The torch makes quick work of cutting the cap outer bolt plate center weld to where the plate can be knocked off with air hammer. Cut the cross with wide cuts allowing yoke to go over torched cross and opposite yoke. Then use air hammer to push caps to the inside, no yoke damage.
It was the Astro "Big Nasty" air hammer which made this process possible.
It doesn't matter what method is used to install u-joints. The main goal is make sure all of the needle bearings that were in it when it was in the box are in it after you install it.
An old saying came to mind when you mentioned people leaving "how to do it right" comments here ... its goes like this . "Sometimes its best to Remain Silent and Thought a fool than it is to Open ones mouth and Remove all Doubt" . Cheers .
Ah, Cummins owners. Looks like this one checks all the boxes.
✓ - Tons of rust
✓ - Egregious mechanical neglect
✓ - Slapped together 4" exhaust with "muffler delete"
✓ - Silly suspension mods
✓ - Turbo-duster intake/filter
I started out watching Watch Wes Work and then saw Rainman Ray's videos, been a regular watcher of both since then.
I’ve hammered the apart and back together, used a Vice as a press, and used c clamps. Hammering apart on the side of the road with no clamp/ Vice is worst. I’ve changed them way too quick because I didn’t relieve the strain after installing a tight one. I had changed several before my Dad showed me how to relieve the “tightness”!
Nothing like watchingweswork, Rainman Ray and Dr O at SMA. Only 3 I watch. Occasionally watch Eric the car guy but he’s more commercialized anymore instead of down and dirty wrenching
Production quality on the intro was outstanding! Keep up the great work Wes!
Trying to tell Wes how he should be doing it is like telling a fish how to swim. Enjoy every video! Thanks.
Looking forward to the loader engine install. "It ain't stupid if it works." Great video Wes thumbs up.
Monday morning, a hot cup of coffee and Watch Wes Work. Lovely start to the week.
I NEED that coffee mug!!! I have that same problem sometimes when my wife talks to me...........usually when she's telling me to either buy something at the store that MEN do not use or taking out the trash
I liked the saying on the mug too! It would be a good one for a T-shirt!!
Love the little extra bit at the end!
Wes I'm so impressed with your camera work, you make it look so easy, lol! Always watch Rainman Ray with my coffee in the morning:) Cant forget Ivan at pine hollow diagnostics!
And South Main Auto!!!
Even hammering bearings, your like the Bob Ross of rust repairs.
My friend Asa was a solid mechanic for 40+yrs ( sadly passed on now) his tried and true method was the same as yours. His reasoning you lower the risk of bending the ears of the shaft by hammering them in. My chosen method as well. PS loved the intro a nice nod to Rainman Ray.
I know right, had my sides hurting 🤣🤣👍
I learned auto-tech at a school in Washington state, guy working the tool-room there was named Asa, coincidence/common-ish name for that generation or?
If it’s stupid and it works it’s not stupid. Do what you do. Good job
Nice job Wes. I also watch Rainman Ray. My thoughts on methods of repair is “what works best for you”.
Glad you found a engine for your loader. Thank you for the referral to Rainman Ray’s. Nice 👍 job on the driveshaft repair.
Pleasing most people on the internet is not possible. Great Content as Always Thanks 👍
First 30 seconds was cinematic masterpiece. Fantastic work
This is how all my customers bring me driveshaft repairs. I thought that was how you knew they were due for replacement parts. lol
I mean you still have the front axle...
Good video, good job. In 48 years of wrenching I have never used a press to remove a u-joint, a ball peen and a vice. The one thing I have never done is clamp the driveshaft tube in the vice and hammer on the u-joint. I was always afraid of denting and bending the tube. I always open the vice wide enough for the u-joint yoke to rest on the vice and then I hammer away. Like you said everyone does it differently.
Nice work Wes! 🙂 I'd feel the same way, those spacers would be scary to use up front LOL. Nice to hear you may have an engine for your loader. Take care 🔩🔧
Thanks 👍
Yeppir, Wes might be going all Diesel Creek on us!
@@ohiofarmer5918 I am so happy that Wes is Wes and not a copy of any other youtuber.
@@Frank-Thoresen Me too. I would drive a hundred miles to have him work on the important stuff
Hey Zane! Nice to see we watch the same stuff. Whens your next video coming out? That IH and the flatbed are both good projects! I think fans of Watch Wes Work would enjoy your channel.
Thanks for the shout out to Ray. I've been watching your channel twice as long as Ray. He's like the Florida-Wes.
I'm always amazed that drive shafts, maybe 20-25 mm diameter, can transfer enough torque to spin a wheel with half a ton on it on dry tarmac without twisting up like a swizzle stick.
Yay! Graveyard!
New engine for the loader!
New graveyard videos coming!!!
Look forward to your video every week! Like Sunday morning cartoons like when I was a kid 😊
Think I'm almost to the point where I have everyday of the week with content to watch. Puddin's fab shop on Monday, VGG on fri, Mustie1 on Sunday, Wes and JYD on whatever day they come out lol.
Wes steppin up his production game. Dig the intro bud. Thanks for sharing as always.
I always look forward seeing his videos. His intro are gems. He is straight on it without any nonsense (intro music)
This is an example of a person who doesn't understand the concept of Maintaining a vehicle that you put out good money and hope for a good investment on the purchase. I have had several vehicles that we were able to put on over 300,000 miles without an major problems. Yes spark plugs, filters, brake shoes, and many times grease the connections to maintain adequate steering. All good mechanics has his favorite striking device. Wes you do good work and make the job very easy to understand....
Many times I run a wheel cylinder hone through the yokes just a bit. The correct way to install a U joint is the way the indevidual is used to and works best for hm!
That Cummins shows absolutely no mercy.
Wes, I've been watching and enjoying your videos since about when you started. Just wanted to say thank you for going to the time and trouble to share pieces of your day with us. I always look forward to it and wish you and your family well!
Wes I have done u joints this way for 25 years... no problems at all. As long as you don't knock out the needles and contaminate the grease, it will be just fine. If I had a shop as extensive as yours I would probably press them in once in a while... just to say I have done it that way too!
Personally I think the only major things important when installing U joints is to not cross-thread them and make sure they are torqued to spec.
I changed a u-joint one time in highschool. I limped my 49 Ford to the auto parts store with the propeller shaft banging away. Changed it in the parking lot with a tool box I brought with me. Yes under the car with a bumper jack. Before battery drills were invented. Threw the old parts in their garbage can. Yes there are different ways of doing it. Some guys can't believe there is any other way to do it besides their way.
Your shop, your experience, your methods. AMEN!
The mechanic I used to use said if one U-joint is worn out, replace them all. Glad to see you have your customer's wallet in mind.
I put 3" spacers on my '98.5 Ram. I also put on adjustable control arms and steering correction, new steering stabilizer and Free Spin locking hubs.
Always learn something Wes, thanks for taking the time to share. Enjoy the diversity of your projects!
Rainman Ray is a good egg. He keeps it from being boring and has way more patience with customers than I do!!!
Great editing Wes! I love seeing Ray get some love from your channel. Two A+++ guys!!
Me and my late father replaced a U-joint in an Auto Zone parking lot with nothing but a hammer, a screwdriver and sockets.
Buddy’s plow truck had a nasty vibration when you took your foot off the throttle. A pain to figure out, U joint was locked up in the rear driveshaft by the carrier bearing. I pulled the driveshaft for 3 joints and a carrier bearing. Came back the next day, he did the 1 u joint and tossed it back in🤣. Guess he had to plow quickly
I have to comment on the music at the start....totally amazing...I laughed out loud. It just keeps getting better from there. Thanks WWW..... I have many of your stickers proudly displayed on my tool box.
When your ujoint looks like that it is a clear case of grease termites, leaving the joint dry and then causing it to wear. It is not caused by Cummins power.
A hammer to install a U-Joint!!!! That truck will only last another 300,000 kms now, what a hack...... On a serious note, great intro.
Rainman Ray is a good dude
Ray is a funny dude. Sometimes I wonder if the Florida heat gets to his brain a little bit but he is a very good mechanic
19:25 Baling wire in that instance is definitely better than baling twine.
Wes and Ray and Eric . The big three. Best 3 channels on the Tube hands down.
I watched Ray's driveshaft experience a couple of days ago, you definitely beat his time just with the one u-joint, (he did all three I believe).
Good job Wes👍
“No wrong way” awesome Wes! 👍👍👍👍
No negative comments to add. Done right.
Was that a battery on the ground with a tube of dielectric grease nearby?
:-D
Very good point about the velocity difference in the yokes. Back when I worked on school buses there were at least 3 and sometimes up to 5 drive shafts. Some were at acute angles, as well. That number of shafts makes it crucial to get them all timed properly and that the balance weights hadn't fallen off or been removed for some reason. Even after all that, they would sometimes howl no matter what you did. It's hard to convince people sometimes about the speed difference, but; it most definitely is there.
I’m glad you cleared that up that is quite a common thing
Thank God for my thermal camera. Spent months trying to figure out what the hell is going on…
When the carrier bearing failed on my 2006 Nissan titan, scared the absolute shit out of me. It was just at a certain frequency/vibration it would start to vibrate like crazy at a certain speed above 40 miles an hour. , Sometimes it would just slowly stop and sometimes it would almost bounce down the road until I could gain control.
Towed a few times, but we could never figure out what was wrong. Because when you grab the carrier bearing or driveshaft to try to move it around, it already popped back into place, because of the weird design and the strange rubber grommet like things that had half melted. And of course every time a tow truck would pull it up on the flatbed, it would jostle everything around and kind of click everything back into place and it might not show up again for another week or maybe even a month or two.
Finally figured it out with my thermal camera and fixed it myself. Holy shit a thermal camera is so important especially for something like this. I justified the purchase because of my electronics/metrology/repair business… But it’s even more useful for mechanics folks
Bought the truck new, I’ve done basically everything myself which is only included things like changing the oil, I think I put new plugs in it at 100,000 miles, and new brakes and stuff. And that’s about it. Got almost 500,000 miles on the truck now. Still drives great, but as someone with a machinist background and experience doing tool/die work… I know how the metal and components are stressed when driven hard… So I’ve always driven like a complete grandma. Pulled over for it several times as well 😂 whether acceleration, breaking , deceleration, turning, whatever..... I try and take it easy on the old gal
I was about seven years old and was riding with dad to Gunnersville for a big bowfishing tournament. And his universal joint literally exploded. And left pieces stretch down three or 4 mile length of the interstate. Somehow he Jerry rigged it with bailing wire and duct tape in a few strips of that hardening fiberglass tape… We fished the tournament, even got it home, and the family mechanic cussed him for a month…
I don’t see a problem with tapping in the bearing caps with a hammer, I do understand it wouldn’t be everyone’s method though, give some people a hammer and they just want to break stuff,
“If all else fails, use a bigger hammer.” (or Big Nasty)
This video could not have come at a better time, just bought an 05 Silverado and have to do a rear u joint (among a lot of other things). Thanks Wes!
21:01 Dumbest thing a person can change on a force induction engine. Hey let's sacrifice air filtration for cool noises. Every dusted engine I've seen... had a K&N or similar knock off "cold air intake". The second dumbest thing are coil spacers. Especially 3". That pulls the axle about an inch to the drivers side. Of course they leave the stock shock in there. Leave the steering wheel crooked. But hey it sure looks cool.
You're describing 90% of diesel trucks on the road in America. People can't leave them alone.
Guilty of the cheap spring spacer with shock extender. Also not even adjusting the caster with the crooked slinky spring.
@@winnreid LOL. Well STOP IT!
@@ShainAndrews I keep the velocity joint greased and role on truck rides good lol
@@ShainAndrews it’s a ram 2500
I really enjoy Ray’s channel… I binged his channel while coviding…
Doo de doooo… Click, reverse click…
Love the intro. Was in stitches...
OMG everyone knows you are supposed to install the caps on a u-joint with a brass rod or glass hammer 🤣
Shout-out to Ray, he uploads every single morning like clockwork to watch with my coffee
Excellent like always. Nice to see location X again, looking forward to watching part 3 of the loader ressurection. From where was the leak of the steering system finally?
The reservoir was cracked.
Genius use of Welpers!
Wes's shop, Wes's rules! You don't like Wes's procedures? buy his shop and do it your own way.
Editing and humor were 10/10. Keep up the amazing work.
Loved the start of the video any video made in Florida and they complain about "rust" this is the first channel anyone mentions and tells them this is what rust and corrosion looks like
A 25 year old Florida "rust" bucket car is like a 5 year old car in the rust belt
So happy when a WWW or Rainman Ray vid drops. Love both content & love how creators can work with each other.
Next up on this Sunday morning is Mustie1, who, if emptying a carb float bowl, will use a Taryl mug on screen... LoL!!
But WHERE did you find the mug in this video?!?!?
Thanks for the multiple smiles on a Sunday morning!!
The alleged greasering is a lie... any greasering not shown obviously did not happens ;-)
I love the comments from Rainman and Diesel Creek, good job fellas!
You are the sheriff, this is your rodeo, you have the skill and the responsibility to do it right, your way. Watching you put something back together that is only slightly younger and in marginally better condition than the Dead Sea scrolls, paying all the attention to get the lubrication right, is a magnificent testament to your responsibility. The lesson on the workings of Universal Joints was one well worth everyone understanding, but I wonder, how many in the fields of work know and understand the theory the world over.
Yep, that rig probably won’t even make it out the highway after hitting that bearing cap with a hammer… hahaha…! Wes, what is your general ratio of u-joint replacements regarding auto vs., manual transmissions…?
Great video,
Thank sir.
I guess I'd assume manual would be changed slightly more often, but the clutch may take more of the beating than the u-joints
@@M.TTT. awe, copy that. Thank you
I had the same model BMW with and without automatic transmission, and the shaft is designed slightly weaker for the automatic transmission variant
Every time I want to cry into my tool box after fighting with rust I go and watch Rainman Rays channel to get mad. hahaha
Wes was a tech for 35 years and also used a hammer/press/vice to install u-joints. I would add a small amount of grease (to help hold the needle bearings) gently hammer them into place. After the old caps were out, I bought some small hones to clean out the yoke. That worked really well. To dismantle the joint, I had a friend make me some hollowed-out drivers (similar to a long reach socket) to use as I placed the joint over a vice hammering the driver to remove the cap. Love the info that you share you have a great work ethic. Nice shop set-up. Way back in the late 60's early 70's at a parts store I worked at we also would replace the constant velocity joints from the big GM cars. Took some patience/skill.
7:29 Proceeds to install a Moog part. Spicer fans raging... SKF fans raging, Spicer & SKF fans raging at each other. Ultimate troll play Wes... Meanwhile nobody noticed the hammer.
Mean while there is an uprising in the snap ring orientation camp.
I install what I can get, which currently is nothing...
LOL! :-D
Hi Wes, I had a '96 Dodge that I loved, after an accident the 2 piece drive shaft was replaced, I had universal and differential pinion bearing failure. the cause turned out to be the spine at the center bearing was sticking. in the past I had a Ford 150 with a similar problem and a Ford mechanic gave me Teflon grease made by Ford for this problem. after replacement of two pinion bearings (one replaced by a Dodge dealer which got the drive shaft timing off by 180 degrees) and universals I finally added that grease and all those problems went away.
Rich
Glad to see old iron get new life... I am seventy two Wes, its a personal thing okay? I always used a ballpeen hammer to at least start u joints together as I want to feel as well as see the bearing needles align with each other and once the keeper clips are in both sides I give a sharp wrap with hammer to make sure its not bound together too tight even though the do center themselves. Give it a chance to work. I still have a needle just once in a while tip over and make a human out of me.... sounds good to hear a loader engine is in the works
You use what ever method works. The u-joint is in everyone is happy.
I have installed u-joints with a press, a hammer and using a bench vise. I have been successful in every method, but also Fubared my fair share. Usual culprits of doom are dropping a cap or a single needle roller. Nice Bonus Footage! 👍😁
Yeah that happens to the best of us!
GM and their double double Cardon joint drive shafts gave me PTSD...
CV U-Joint things that give you nightmares...
I watch him all the time. I like your videos because you not only work on cars but I like the farm equipment and other stuff as well. I too was a mechanic for GM for many years now I just like to watch.
WWW, Cutting Edge Engineering and Rainman Ray - My 3 fav channels. I chuckled at the intro, watched Rays video the other day.
Don't give the critics a hearing! You use the method that works for you. Great video, as usual.