NTV MEN: Polygamy and the Bible (Pr Male supporting Polygyny)

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  • @saintx4173
    @saintx4173 3 роки тому +32

    This world allows divorce and homosexuality marriage yet condemns a man with multiple wives, smdh, this world is so twisted and backwards!

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 2 роки тому

      if marriage is between one man, and one woman.....then any after the first wife would be....adultery....

    • @paulkayonga3554
      @paulkayonga3554 Рік тому +4

      well said they think homosexuality is ok but polygamy is bad

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 Рік тому +1

      @@paulkayonga3554 the funny things western world are the ones who forced into Christianity and now they abounded it 🤣

    • @lightscameratamara
      @lightscameratamara 11 місяців тому

      Cool long as she can have many men. Only fair if she has to be disrespected so shall you

    • @MSbeksy
      @MSbeksy 9 місяців тому

      ​@@lightscameratamarathat is adultery...and an abomination...

  • @rockturtle764
    @rockturtle764 3 роки тому +15

    COOL DEBATE... THE GUY THAT WAS FOR POLYGANY... CLEARLY WON.

  • @israel3603
    @israel3603 3 роки тому +7

    Great video and very informative information. Keep dropping knowledge shalom

  • @Godblessyou974
    @Godblessyou974 4 роки тому +11

    Let us use and follow the word of God! He is the same yesterday, today and forever

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 Рік тому

      But the bible is not same words that jesus preached

    • @Godblessyou974
      @Godblessyou974 Рік тому

      @@Asiyah2000 its the same! Every word preached was inspired by the Holy spirit which is still Jesus! For The word, The Father and the Holy Spirit are one! 1John 5:7

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 Рік тому

      @@Godblessyou974 hmm🤔 so jesus is God?? And according to who

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 Рік тому

      @@Godblessyou974 and btw bible is not preserved Christian scholars and scientist were saying that with proofs so..🤷‍♀️

    • @Godblessyou974
      @Godblessyou974 Рік тому

      @@Asiyah2000 YES JESUS IS GOD! He was here and even in Heaven

  • @dionysian222
    @dionysian222 4 роки тому +11

    Pastor: Have you ever wrestled with God😂😂😂😂🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @evangelistfrancispeprahtv1904
    @evangelistfrancispeprahtv1904 Рік тому +4

    Polygyny Is never a sin. It is by choice

  • @jamespimental6919
    @jamespimental6919 4 роки тому +13

    There is one verse that clearly states a man can! Exodus 21:10 if a man take him another wife her food her raiment and her duty of marriage he shall not diminish

  • @wanelobajohn3292
    @wanelobajohn3292 4 роки тому +7

    its painfull to watch African men argue strongly to defend foreign religious laws

    • @Fitricson
      @Fitricson 3 роки тому +3

      Scriptures were in Africa before any European came. Do your proper research

    • @user-fd5bk8rv2y
      @user-fd5bk8rv2y 2 роки тому

      Kindly watch on UA-cam Jake the muslim metaphysician channel videos regarding comparative discussion between Islam and Christianity. Jake is doing phd in Christology and will surely make you believe Islam is the truth and Christianity is false

    • @Arrozconchopsticks
      @Arrozconchopsticks Рік тому

      The Bible has nothing to do with Europe. Unfortunately the Romans put their dirty hands on it. Islam is false, I guess people forgot how Islam was forced on Africa.

  • @MSbeksy
    @MSbeksy 9 місяців тому +1

    This is amazing, i watched a video of Pastor Male, vehemently denouncing polygyny and now he is advocating for it...There is no sense trying to run from the clear truth of God...God is for polygyny it is biblical marriage as well...

  • @oliveronyango2075
    @oliveronyango2075 4 роки тому +9

    The guy in red T shirt inside is just too confused the way he's arguing. He's not articulate.

  • @laudospagtv
    @laudospagtv 4 роки тому +6

    Pstr Solomon is making a lot of sense bcuz his argument is based on the bible whiles the other 2 guys are basing their argument on only economy without biblical sense meanwhile the debate is based on what the bible says about polygamy (polygyny)

  • @zynark777
    @zynark777 4 роки тому +11

    The argument about 1:1 gender ratios (it is actually 1.05:1 in favor of men) means nothing in this context.
    If you study mating patterns among humans you quickly see the Pareto principle, 80% of the women want 20% of the men. The opposite is not true, because men actually have lower standards generally, because they can't be as picky and they don't need to, since they are usually the breadwinners of families. Men value only looks and prefer that a woman can take care of a household, which most can.
    Now, listening to the pro-monogamists in this video it is clear that monogamy leads to feminism. He is arguing for the equality of the sexes, which goes completely against the patriarchal position the Bible teaches. Monogamy is not of a biblical source as to how churches came to embrace it. It is because Christendom was Eurocentric from the beginning and European (liberal) norms have seeped into their interpretations. It made sense in ancient times in cold environments to be monogamous, because it was harder to provide for children during winter. But it no longer makes sense, especially not if you know that alphas always have more partners (now considered adultery) and that many men even today with monogamous norms still are involuntary celibates.
    Do right by the alpha males, their women and especially their offspring. No child wants to be born a bastard and nature is not going to change just because you wish it. You talk about natural law? Well listen to statistics on the nature of man. Man is biased towards polygyny, globally speaking. And women, since they are not and SHOULD NOT be the breadwinners of families, because that would pervert the nature of man and make him into a cuck eventually (a man that accepts polygamous women but is not allowed to himself be polygamous, partially because of economic dependency), because they are not the breadwinners and see men as their providers that AUTOMATICALLY makes them commodities in a sense. Anybody who preaches against this preaches both against nature and God's Word.
    And stability has nothing to do with if a marriage is monogamous or polygynous. They are completely unrelated.
    If anything, marriages are more unstable in monogamous societies where men don't control their wives, because statistically women are in most cases the initiators of divorce. Female rights lead to higher divorce rates. Fact.

    • @spark300c
      @spark300c 4 роки тому

      monogamy does not exactly lead to feminism. monogamy practice for millennia but only recently feminism become a thing. In fact it was easier to get married before feminism become a thing. Now in west both women and men have to work. Also alpha males only 20 percent of population and mbti personality of ENTJ or ESTJ.
      For women being breadwinner then is nothing in bible that forbids her form working. God gifted some women to able to earn alot money. In fact the richest women very loyal to their husbands. The thing is father is not just provider but also caretaker of his children. It why I feel being a father would 2nd hardest job because have to go to work and then come home and take care of his children. It why monogamy is best. If man not can provide personal care to his children then he not better than an adulter. A Man can be not good father if has too many wives because he has no time to care for his children. Polygyny lack the fixability for these women. A Lot women in ploygny live poverty because of man lust and marriage system does allow to her work.

    • @zynark777
      @zynark777 4 роки тому +3

      @@spark300c That did not make much sense to me and it was just plainly wrong or basically affirmed what I said. Monogamy helps women control men and gives rise to feminism.
      Only traditionally monogamous societies give rise to feminism. Fact.

    • @spark300c
      @spark300c 4 роки тому

      ​@@zynark777 that is wrong monogamy will always lead to feminism because what god said. deuteronomy 17 "He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold. " The kings where meant to be monogamous because too wives who have too much power over him. That exactly what to king solomon. Do you think you know better than god. What give the door way to feminism is christian teaching who we men should treat women and liberalism. Christian is soft patriarchal religion. India which outlawed polygamy and is a harsh patriarchal society.

    • @zynark777
      @zynark777 4 роки тому +3

      ​@@spark300c "monogamy will always lead to feminism"
      Correct. So we must do away with it.
      The problem was that Solomon took wives of foreign religions really.

    • @spark300c
      @spark300c 4 роки тому

      ​@@zynark777 Why in earth was support some thing ensure you can't get married and is over weleming sinful. One has ignore all verse on how hasband treat his wife to support polygamy. Ploygamy do not benefit men. It make men inferior to women in the mating game. . Here polygamy make men submissive to women because so hard to get a wife. told you monogamy does not lead to feminism by giving you indina as example.

  • @jamespimental6919
    @jamespimental6919 4 роки тому +6

    Notice how the Catholic wants to philosophy! 😂😂 they can't use the scripture! The man that's not married has no business talking about marriage! Smh

  • @jamespimental6919
    @jamespimental6919 4 роки тому +6

    The fact that Paul brings up the husband of one wife at all would prove it was common practice for a man to have multiple wives.
    Now Paul's admonish for a deacon to have one is simply a sound recommendation. A man with many wives and children doesn't have the time to dedicate to being a deacon. But in the context he says the deacon needs to know how to rule his own house well so maybe Paul's meaning to say a deacon needs to be a husband and father before he can be a deacon because he needs that experience to fulfill that duty

    • @davidval7188
      @davidval7188 3 роки тому

      @Chris Johnson really

    • @Fitricson
      @Fitricson 3 роки тому

      Paul is not a prophet or high priest. He can’t give laws! The moment you give laws based on Paul, you don’t understand scripture. Prophets gave the laws.

    • @NeshieTheKingSlayer
      @NeshieTheKingSlayer 3 роки тому

      @@Fitricson Paul is a false apostle that Ephesians rejected and were commended for in Revelations 2.
      He said you can eat meat sacrificed to idols, which another church was condemned for keeping a prophetess that taught this in their church, also Revelation 2.
      Among the Hebrews he said keep the law, among the gentiles he said don't keep the law. The Hebrews who stoned him just did what Deuteronomy 13 said to do to people who tried to take you away from the law.

  • @segunadewaleige5049
    @segunadewaleige5049 2 роки тому +2

    Two are better than one and three fold cord cannot be easily broken

  • @puhmohamed4984
    @puhmohamed4984 3 роки тому +8

    Poligamy is not bad . The way you stay in it makes it good or difficult

  • @beautybuthelezi9330
    @beautybuthelezi9330 4 роки тому +2

    polygamy marriage is good for the second wife and the husband, and the third marriage, because those women who came after are the one choose polygamy, the truth be told the first wive and her children in polygamy always go through so much pain.

  • @bebacksoon100
    @bebacksoon100 4 роки тому +1

    Pastor Solomon Preach!! 8:20

  • @wanelobajohn3292
    @wanelobajohn3292 4 роки тому +4

    arguing for something wrong strongly does not make it right

    • @okotray4577
      @okotray4577 3 роки тому

      Wrong and right are relative words

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 2 роки тому

      @@okotray4577 not according to the Bible....

  • @phionalynate7162
    @phionalynate7162 4 роки тому +3

    I definately disagree with pastor male. This is ends times for sure

  • @patricktabu7680
    @patricktabu7680 Рік тому

    We have heard your explanations. You will hear from us soon.

  • @myrtlemoore7611
    @myrtlemoore7611 4 місяці тому +1

    Coarse and sufficiently legal and look what trouble they're having there listen to the voices that you don't hear the women and the children you do not hear their voice This is so sad so sad but I got 2 young men and I've raised them you do not need multiple partners you need God in your life and you need one woman make it your commitment raise your children and be happy and God will bless you these men they think they're being blessed for a ticket to hell they'll be there

  • @raydrew201
    @raydrew201 Рік тому +2

    Exodus 21 10-11 is the verse, polygyny is never addressed as sin anywhere in the scriptures, but if a man take a more that one wife,
    There is a prescription specifically for it. Women aren’t supposed to marry more than one man because women are made to be wives to one man according to her genetics, one egg ovulates at a time… a man can impregnate multiple women. Marriage is a choice, it is not undignified towards women to be protected… and just because men do something doesn’t men a woman can and should, they are made for a different purpose. He said that they show that polygamist marriage in the Bible never ends well, but what about an 80% divorce rate initiated by women in modern times in monogamous marriages… seems to me like the old times, marriages lasted longer in both respects, so the modern progressive mindset is actually the problem.

  • @segunadewaleige5049
    @segunadewaleige5049 2 роки тому +1

    The issue of polygamy is not applicable to everybody.for those it applicable to go ahead.God has accepted everyone some consider a day better than others while other believe all days are the same.God has accepted all.

  • @THELIGHTBRINGER144THOUSAND
    @THELIGHTBRINGER144THOUSAND 2 роки тому +2

    So how do we solve prostitution?

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 2 роки тому

      how does this relate to this topic....lust is everywhere and that is sin.....so one would have to do the same with prostitution...

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 Рік тому

      @@philipbuckley759 Christianity has no accountability ugh 😑

  • @kamusiimeazaria5161
    @kamusiimeazaria5161 4 роки тому +2

    There is something I wish I had clarified.July 19th 2013,Pr Male was hosted on Nbs with Pr kamera and he was against polygamy, he seems to second polygamy now,does that mean there has been a transition in scriptures in less than 7 years.

    • @dnfact214
      @dnfact214 4 роки тому +1

      I an confused also he accused the abranamu pastor to have been confused the now he also confused too, God rescue Uganda kabisa

    • @kamusiimeazaria5161
      @kamusiimeazaria5161 4 роки тому

      @@dnfact214 I texted him on messenger and here is his reply"I am for polygyny while kimera supports polygamy.
      The two are distinct"

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 Рік тому

      @@kamusiimeazaria5161 because the bible has been changed through time wake up guys and look into only authentic religion which is non other than Islam ( submission to the will of Allah/ God ☝

  • @niwarindadennis5634
    @niwarindadennis5634 4 роки тому +4

    Please ladies are two many thus we need to balance them through marrying one another.

  • @1simekakeu766
    @1simekakeu766 4 роки тому

    Tjx u sir the man with the brown coat, n besides women can be much but some are destiny destroyer, not all women are wives

  • @davidval7188
    @davidval7188 3 роки тому

    Is the Man of in a red married?

  • @cisa143
    @cisa143 3 роки тому

    21:00

  • @kavulumike3248
    @kavulumike3248 Рік тому

    These 2 psts are discussing something so different than Wat I understand

  • @mosesmbonigaba9198
    @mosesmbonigaba9198 4 роки тому +1

    We would appreciate if one panelist keeps quite and leaves the other to talk

  • @1simekakeu766
    @1simekakeu766 4 роки тому +2

    Bcs our perents did it does not make it rigjt, is only men dat can stand firm to this

  • @ThaGoVna
    @ThaGoVna 2 роки тому +1

    I'm jus watching this and im 7 mins in. I noticed the man in the middle allowed the other guys 2 speak and get their points in fully but the min he spoke against their view they interrupting🤦🏾‍♂️y r people especially men so against polygyn? If it's not 4 u just don't do it but the Bible has never condemned no man 4 polygyny

  • @kondwanimbuzi5431
    @kondwanimbuzi5431 Рік тому

    Thanks for your Wisdom Mr. Alex

  • @cisa143
    @cisa143 3 роки тому

    00:21

  • @buthanaali218
    @buthanaali218 4 роки тому +2

    May Allah bless u with islam one day bse u support it in several ways unknowingly

    • @Jan.Martin.Brenden
      @Jan.Martin.Brenden 4 роки тому +1

      May you go to the Torah to fill the missing links in your Quaran. And obey truth. Go to the Book :) Nit islam or christianity. But truth. Torah and gospels. Like your Quran tells you to do

    • @joehouston2833
      @joehouston2833 3 роки тому +1

      Allah is NOT God..

    • @user-fd5bk8rv2y
      @user-fd5bk8rv2y 2 роки тому

      Kindly watch on UA-cam Jake the muslim metaphysician channel videos regarding comparative discussion between Islam and Christianity. Jake is doing phd in Christology and will surely make you believe Islam is the truth and Christianity is false

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 2 роки тому

      @@user-fd5bk8rv2y good luck, on Judgement Day, because....if what you say is true....then Jesus wasted his life, here on earth....and died, for nothing.....which ignores his resurrection...

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 Рік тому

      @@philipbuckley759 jesus is our prophet so we are win win 🏆🙌

  • @1simekakeu766
    @1simekakeu766 4 роки тому +2

    Homosexuality is not bcs there is lack of women or men sir plss

    • @user-fd5bk8rv2y
      @user-fd5bk8rv2y 2 роки тому

      Kindly watch on UA-cam Jake the muslim metaphysician channel videos regarding comparative discussion between Islam and Christianity. Jake is doing phd in Christology and will surely make you believe Islam is the truth and Christianity is false

  • @nicholasmusana5177
    @nicholasmusana5177 4 роки тому +2

    That one wife to develop, are Muslims poor?

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 Рік тому

      No we are good Alhamdulilaah and we don't do immoral idolatry 😏

  • @davidval7188
    @davidval7188 3 роки тому +1

    10 virgin s

  • @beautybuthelezi9330
    @beautybuthelezi9330 4 роки тому

    the first wife didn't choose polygamy her husband and is girlfriend are the one who forced her to polygamy.

  • @fatoumattabah9059
    @fatoumattabah9059 4 роки тому

    Pastor Male kirabika ye taata wa full figure kubanga avako mangu ansesa

  • @centurionguards3819
    @centurionguards3819 2 роки тому +1

    The 12 tribes of Israel was based on polygyny.

  • @centurionguards3819
    @centurionguards3819 2 роки тому +1

    Trust the Catholic to bring in a whole set of foolishness. When over half of these Catholic priests are gay. And unmarried, when the bible states specifically that bishops and deacons must be husbands of one wife.

    • @blueeyes5952
      @blueeyes5952 2 роки тому +1

      Catholic don't follow God's commands but they follow pope's commands

  • @Kiregom
    @Kiregom Рік тому

    The Christians will tell yoh polygamy is bad / a sin but have 3 side chics. A moslem will be polygamous and be faithful to his 2 wives. Who is fooling who?

  • @tietearoddy
    @tietearoddy 4 роки тому +1

    Polygyny is not beneficial to women at all. Any woman who says yes are stupid. How is it beneficial? Explain how and do not bring up co- wives helping each other. Just a maid.

    • @user-fd5bk8rv2y
      @user-fd5bk8rv2y 2 роки тому

      Kindly watch on UA-cam Jake the muslim metaphysician channel videos regarding comparative discussion between Islam and Christianity. Jake is doing phd in Christology and will surely make you believe Islam is the truth and Christianity is false

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 Рік тому

      @@user-fd5bk8rv2y very beneficial wow 👏

  • @npzwane9331
    @npzwane9331 4 роки тому +3

    The argument on economics is misplaced. Although the bible says the man is the provider but again Proverbs 31 gives us an example of a good wife. She does not fold her arms and expect everything from a man. She even works so hard that she becomes a millionaire in her own right.
    Again the argument on polygamous marriages causing trouble is confused. There are as many peaceful polygamous marriages as troublesome monogamous marriages. Again Jacob's troubles were not caused by the fact that he was polygamous. The Devil was attacking the blessing on Jacob. Even before David gets married he had a lot of problems! Therefore one cannot argue that Jacob's problems were because of his polygamy.

    • @user-fd5bk8rv2y
      @user-fd5bk8rv2y 2 роки тому

      Kindly watch on UA-cam Jake the muslim metaphysician channel videos regarding comparative discussion between Islam and Christianity. Jake is doing phd in Christology and will surely make you believe Islam is the truth and Christianity is false

  • @sleepinggoat3220
    @sleepinggoat3220 2 роки тому

    Boda boda

  • @prophetkeithlawrence8221
    @prophetkeithlawrence8221 4 роки тому +2

    Marriage belongs to God he has set the rules of marriage between a man and his wife to mirror the rules of marriage between Christ and the church the rules that apply to Christ apply to the man the rules that apply to the church apply to the woman love your wife as Christ loves the church

    • @kenstar3692
      @kenstar3692 4 роки тому +1

      Prophet Keith Lawrence what is the church? Isn't Christ being married to the church the essence of polygyny? The bible say the church is made of many members. Not only that, Christ was married to the church in Rome, Galatia, Ephesus and so on all at the same time. The bible also speaks as God as having to wives also of divorces one of them. Everything written in the bible isnt a commandment or can even be considered a plan unless it is said so. There are plenty of things in the bible that are just part of conversation. God never condemns polygyny yet he makes laws for his chosen people to govern such a marriage. Sin is transgression of the law so why would God make laws forcing men to marry his brothers wife?

    • @kenstar3692
      @kenstar3692 4 роки тому +1

      Prophet Keith Lawrence I was asking those questions for your opinion and not to challenge you because I'm in agreement with you.

  • @baze1027
    @baze1027 4 роки тому +4

    Pastor male ali munsi yiiye yeka.🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @user-fd5bk8rv2y
      @user-fd5bk8rv2y 2 роки тому +1

      Kindly watch on UA-cam Jake the muslim metaphysician channel videos regarding comparative discussion between Islam and Christianity. Jake is doing phd in Christology and will surely make you believe Islam is the truth and Christianity is false

  • @beautybuthelezi9330
    @beautybuthelezi9330 4 роки тому +2

    polygamy marriage is not good for the first wive and her children, polygamy is Good to the second wive and her husband and children.

    • @kaylahawkins
      @kaylahawkins 2 роки тому

      Why?? Isn't she the first wife?

    • @user-fd5bk8rv2y
      @user-fd5bk8rv2y 2 роки тому

      Kindly watch on UA-cam Jake the muslim metaphysician channel videos regarding comparative discussion between Islam and Christianity. Jake is doing phd in Christology and will surely make you believe Islam is the truth and Christianity is false

    • @kaylahawkins
      @kaylahawkins 2 роки тому

      @@user-fd5bk8rv2y I will forever believe in Christianity

    • @user-fd5bk8rv2y
      @user-fd5bk8rv2y 2 роки тому

      @@kaylahawkins don't reach to a conclusion without watching Jake the muslim metaphysician and manyprophetsonemessage channel videos.

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 Рік тому

      @@kaylahawkins why?🤔

  • @1simekakeu766
    @1simekakeu766 4 роки тому

    god is wise, he gave one man one woman dat is enough reason sir, n the fight and kilx from polygamy home is clear to show dat it is condemn

    • @philipbuckley759
      @philipbuckley759 2 роки тому

      one man, and one woman.....ala Adam and Eve.....for example...

    • @Asiyah2000
      @Asiyah2000 Рік тому

      @@philipbuckley759 🤣

  • @donbazlegacy2499
    @donbazlegacy2499 4 роки тому +1

    Please guys Europeans brought to us monogamy and now they have excess women so they've introduce homosexual and lesbianism. My question is, is African ready to accept homosexuality lesbianism or polygamy. Please someone should answer me.

    • @user-fd5bk8rv2y
      @user-fd5bk8rv2y 2 роки тому

      Kindly watch on UA-cam Jake the muslim metaphysician channel videos regarding comparative discussion between Islam and Christianity. Jake is doing phd in Christology and will surely make you believe Islam is the truth and Christianity is false

  • @wanelobajohn3292
    @wanelobajohn3292 4 роки тому +1

    Albert you are silly and lacking in depth. Go and reset your thinking