@@Tonjit41 I agree honestly. Every dlc for the most part has been pretty awesome and we'll utilized in the competitive scene. Love sephiroth and look forward to how kazuya will be used. I just thought it was funny since I've been following him on the OP train since min min a year ago lol
@@calebmonahan7267 Either way it would be a joke; you would have to be screaming pretty audibly to alert someone next door. Then you come to find out that it's over a video game.
@@JackgarPrime exactly. He still has a blind spot in front of his legs. Kazuya will one touch tall or heavy characters while small characters will eat him up
I don’t think it’s a winning matchup, it probably goes either way. He has a bunch of moves that hit very low and can also super armor through multihits and a good recovery
I like how sakurai is like “this move is also pretty good at damaging shields” … and proceeds to show it break an almost full shield without even charging
"Hbox says fighters pass 3" Well Shantae & Dante fans, that's a wrap. With only one slot left, one of the fandoms were bound to be disappointed either way so at least we can share each other's pain.
That pissed me off. Like they said they buffed him because they noticed he isnt that great. But i doubt they were paying him correctry in the first pace. I want a kazuya player from tekken to play him and then they can judge him. Like some of his moves are faster and seem to just be buffed versions of his tekken moves. Like why does his DB3 need to be that fast? In tekken its super slow. And his Whie rising Foward 2 ony does the stagger on counterhit but in this game it does it a the time. kk
@@mr.voidroy6869 A change of pace to fit Smash is a small complaint man.. this just sounds bitchy. You act like they took away the moves instead of just making them better for Smash.
As a tekken fan i appreciate sakurais work on Kazuya he did his homework tekken at its core is a legacy game its EXTREMELY difficult to master and to be even decent is reallly hard the ceiling for mastering taken is really high so the essence of kazuya is that you can be reallly good if you take the time to learn properly
@@CAsnowman hes only really good if you can combo with him cuz characters like sephiroth with insane reach or ones like sonic that are fast can easily take him out if you cant combo
I can accept Dante getting the dunk because his fighting style's kind of ill-suited for Smash, even if he's the granddaddy of combo-oriented beat-'em-up protags and thus led to Bayonetta, but Shantae? She didn't deserve that.
@@powerpacplayer256 Honestly, I'd just have Richter be a Simon alt and put Tails in his place so Shantae can be the last DLC. Richter has no reason to be a separate fighter from Simon. Even Dark Samus has more reason to exist as a separate fighter from normal Power Suit Samus.
Yeah he'll come out tomorrow and everyone will go, "oh he's kinda slow". "Oh if you block the laser he's helpless" etc. A few will really learn his kit and will be actually really good, but they'll just get accused of cheating. I don't think it'll be a Smash 4 Bayonetta situation.
also his moves don't have hit-stun and some of them seem punishable on hit a lower percent's EDIT: Seems I wasn't paying attention and he has hit stun but not hitstop
I feel like that’s going to be the case too. He’s shoto K.Rool, a bag full of gimmicks where once everyone finds out how to counter it the gimmicks become niche and not viable. Now, can he still kill you if you stay too close or don’t react to his approaches? Yeah… Overall though he is a full on bruiser that needs to be countered with zoning and spacing.
Dude looks like he might struggle a bit with killing which is probably why they made him faster to rack up damage and gave him so much invincibility + super armor. I think he’ll be good, but not S tier good. He’d get demolished by swordies and characters that use the air a lot. None of his aerials could kill unless you get lucky with the nair, and his reliable kill moves only seem to be two tilts, tipper fsmash, up b and grabs. Good luck trying to get kills/kill confirms against a Lucina or anyone who can reach further than his punch. But honestly, he still looks pretty good and mad fun to watch. I can’t be assuming much since his moveset is so diverse and if someone would be willing to lab him all the way out, he could definitely have a chance to beat some of the best.
@@willblackburn2394 I don't. He doesn't have enough range besides his neutral b which is very slow and you can easily dodge by ducking, jumping, or shielding. He's also just slow in general so fast characters can choke him out but I guess we won't know until he comes out
@@wolfdragox5563 have you not seen my recoveries bruh ive already taken that into account. gimping and edge guarding is easier said than done and mac still has mixups
Not really, he's lacking of a lot of things, like no disjoint, no real counter, only one projectile (and not a really complex one), no weird mechanics like steve or olimar, and 99% of his move's are short distance (like almost no mid to long distance)
His ground move is good. But his air moves are not. Ive been playing tekken for years, and tekken has never been about midair combos. Im curious how the smash community will play him.
@@iaboth4727 he's strong and has quick startup but got a bit of a endlag problem and his approach his a bit poor since he is quite slow and his aerials are average thought side-b is a bit scary.
I’m actually losing it, they gave him 3 kill throws, combo throw, and were like “he doesn’t have enough options” and gave him a special input throw to tech chase that does high damage HBOX SAYS FIGHTERS PASS 3
@@SantanaBanana47 And super armor! Oh and also good recovery and high damage and combo potential including nice laser beam. But hey if Sakurai thinks he needs it its completely balanced right?
@@SantanaBanana47 I just watched a video about it being tested on CPU but i dont know if its "completely "true" against another player but it looked like it was so yeah its GG until it gets fixed.
Note this: This Kazuya is basically the same Kazuya from Tekken 7; moves, super armor, invincibility, and everything. And the thing is, Kazuya only ended up with two kill throws: His input throw and up-throw. Oh, and I know the comment is late as hell, but that’s Tekken for you. Tekken is FULL of different moves and inputs, and not your traditional 4-directional movesets.
@Trev3DGaming Mmmmmm no everyone had good reason to complain about pyra and mythra. And they still look OP, just slightly less op compared to this character.
@@Totasfunnynumberway too OP Ex: just every Dedede player switches between all the different kinds of gordos and it is impossible to tell which gordo move it is and you get destroyed
He has Corrins recovery, Robs beam, Bayos down air, Little Mac´s super armor, Bowsers Cheese, Terry's nair, Ganondorfs warlock punch as his F-Smash, MinMins counter, Steve's first jump, Falcos second jump, more spikes/meteors than DK, better shieldbreaker than Marth's and Lucina's "SHIELDBREAKER", Inklings dash dance, ...
When kazuya was released everyone thought he would be absolutely broken. Then those people tried playing him, and came to the conclusion that they were absolutely correct.
nah this time hes got a point, a recovery with a strong hit box and can go the distance, combos you cant even block, mf broke a full shield on one attack, auto turn around so his confirms will be BRAIN DEAD EASY, his damage values are pretty high, tough guy, Hyper armor on smashes, a fast and long reaching projectile that can be angled, side B stuns for a confirm and can be used for recovery without sacrificing up B, BOOSTED RAGE with a K.O punch thats also a command grab and a suicide grab, and thats not even half his kit. You cant help but think this is a little TOO much for one character to have.
@@squishy.mp4 tbh ik he's not out yet but every release we seen I said the same thing, wait till he's out to pass judgment, but kazu is a different story after seeing this lol I see no way how thus won't be a dominant top tier
Any higher level of complication is better for a well practiced player maining him; It just means your opponent not playing him has to know all the options/interactions....which are a ton it looks like. (E.g, retreating f-tilt, and super armor)
smash bros is the best example of power creep I can find. a newer character in the franchise simply does more things than a character designed in the 1990s and 2000s on average. Kazuya vs Mario for example: Kazuya's side B alone is a combo starter, kill confirm, recovery move, and a burst option. Mario's is a reflector and nothing more. Mario can only do what Kazuya's SIDE B does with 6 of his moves. I feel like the reason for this power creep is partly the want to sell a character to as many people as possible, and the best way to sell to the competitive side of Smash Bros' fan base would be to make the character top tier. But also Sakurai is leaning harder and harder with every character he makes towards accurate franchise representation, so every new character needs to have as many elements from their home game represented in their kit as possible. none of this is inherently a bad thing, in fact we got some genuinely good fighters out of Ultimate's DLC, Kazuya included. However the downside to this new method of design Smash seems to be leaning towards is that it makes some character's kits feel a little bloated and all over the place, Kazuya included... again.
"HBox says fighters pass 3" This is legit if little Mac decided to merge with dlc bayo and then they decided you know what let's also give him a comeback effect. But wait that's not all... He can randomly become a demon. I wish everyone luck 😂
@@tomb8073 it's devil fist, low back tilt (the little kick), into devil fist, into low tilt, I tested it, and it didn't loop unless the opponent tries standard get up, or getup attack. Still though, it forces rolls unless your opponent wants to die quick, making reads stupid easy.
@Trev3DGaming His attacks are more effective on the ground the double jump will just help him recover everyone says broken when a dlc comes out but weeks later the hype ends so just give it time
This is gonna be a really fun character to try and learn the combos of. I know that in the past we've seen "OP" characters (steve) turn out to be underwhelming, so I hope he isn't BROKEN broken, but at the same time I'm definitely gonna enjoy thrashing my friends with this guy once he's out. Also Hbox says fighter pass 3
I actually GAINED health seeing them turned into miis, rather than being actual fighters. Dante and Shantae fans were almost up there with Waluigi fans
@@Vyhox2000 Yeah don't get me wrong I am STOKED to see them in Smash I'm so happy they're in, but I really wanted them as stand-alone fighters. I'll still take it.
Shantae does have a moveset but the potential is not in just having a moveset it's in interest and gimmick. What would be Shantae's mechanic and play style and does wayforward, Sakurai, and Nintendo care about making it happen? I'm going to assume that 2 out of those pre-requisites haven't been met.
I feel for anyone who wanted Dante, that must really suck. I know what it's like, my boy Shadow got deconfirmed and I'm still upset about that to this day
It all depends on his movement options, imo. It could be like an Incineroar situation-great move set but poor mobility. If he can be outmaneuvered, he can be easily beat… Unfortunately, he has a spammable projectile, so he can comfortably sit in range while being zoned.
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Everyone: Little Mac is trash
Sakurai: he was just a kazuya prototype. let me introduce you to our finished product.
Lol kazuya was the secret weapon all along
Little Crack
The finished product: BEEM
Now fix Mac's recovery Sakurai.
@@Fehrex ...attack?
Sakurai: literally list of entire move set before game
Sakurai in game: BEAM
BEAM
BEAM
BEAM
BEAM
BEAM
HBox: "He's OP!"
Ms. Fowl: "Juan, this is the 5th time you've called a fighter op in this pass!"
he calls every DLC OP, same OH MY GODDDDD reactions
He's not usually wrong tho...
@@Tonjit41 I agree honestly. Every dlc for the most part has been pretty awesome and we'll utilized in the competitive scene. Love sephiroth and look forward to how kazuya will be used. I just thought it was funny since I've been following him on the OP train since min min a year ago lol
hey man the last 4 were all nutty lol
Well to be fair all of the fighters pass 2 characters have been at minimum top of high tier lmao
As someone who's been playing Tekken for his entire life, watching someone freak out over Kazuya's moveset brings me special satisfaction lol
Kazuya my favorite character too so it’s a dub for this guy
Me too hahaha
You damn right
Thank God I'm not the only one, I was feeling like I was a sadist
Facts
I didn’t even need to see the stream I could hear hungrybox having a heart attack from my house.
Lol accurate
Plot twist: he's your neighbor
@@calebmonahan7267 neh, he maybe lives in the same state
@@milesprower6110it's most likely a joke
@@calebmonahan7267 Either way it would be a joke; you would have to be screaming pretty audibly to alert someone next door. Then you come to find out that it's over a video game.
"I paid for the whole moveset, I'm using the whole moveset."
Now they only use 5 moves
Some
BEAM
When the kazuya was here = the crusade is not real = real ultimate
This character is just all the best parts of Ken, Bowser, Ganon, and Little Mac wrapped up into one monster.
But cant fight smoll bodies, aka Pika and Puff
+Has Ridley recovery
@@dmwanderer9454 Well he can angle the beam to help. It will still be tricky though.
@@JackgarPrime exactly. He still has a blind spot in front of his legs. Kazuya will one touch tall or heavy characters while small characters will eat him up
Hungrybox: HE’S OP
Kazuya when he Sees Hungrybox’s Jigglypuff: I’m gonna Spam Down Smash Repeatedly into your Burial Ground
Kazuya is gonna be the definition of, whoever masters the character is gonna roll with him through every smash torney they attend
(foreshadowing)
riddles:
@@JohnTheTriggerEngineer steve be like
Riddles confirms
@@JohnTheTriggerEngineerTea was the 1st one. He was the one who inspired Riddles to improve Kazuya.
"Why does he need more moves?"
Bruh this aint even half of his moves...
Tekken Move List: I AM INFINITE
No chill with the pfp my man
Steve:hold my juice box
18:55
HBox: "Why does he have more moves?!"
Me: Welcome to Tekken's move list!
Yeah kazyuas tekken 7 move list is 79 inputs long so yeah he’s got quite the variety to choose from
@@danielclark653 and that's small compared to most
@@CephlonMayngrum yeah king has 180 so be glad he’s not in smash
*laughs in Harada*
Oh wow, is that miyamoto in ur pfp?
Everybody: OH GOD NO HE'LL BE SO OP
Pika mains: Looks like another winning matchup for ya boi
#NERFRAT
Unless he gets hit with the while rising + A. Then it's gonna be a TOD against the rat.
Appropriate considering Pikachu is a Mishima in Poken
I don’t think it’s a winning matchup, it probably goes either way. He has a bunch of moves that hit very low and can also super armor through multihits and a good recovery
I think Pika has been nerfed merely by Kazuya’s existence
"Pfhahhahha, skyrim"
Sakurai: you dare laugh at it?
*shows dante*
What else does Downsmash do? Make my dinner, Feed my dog, then even walk my dog.
And even tuck you in bed!
Takes your kids to soccer practice
It can also pick up the groceries, fix your credit score, AND cook your food.
kazuya down smash helped me find jesus
It can also get any guy a girlfriend!
I like how sakurai is like “this move is also pretty good at damaging shields” … and proceeds to show it break an almost full shield without even charging
“He can even do powerful moves out of wavedash”…Tekken players “first time bro?”
He’s done it, he worked himself to the point of madness.
"Hbox says fighters pass 3"
Well Shantae & Dante fans, that's a wrap. With only one slot left, one of the fandoms were bound to be disappointed either way so at least we can share each other's pain.
Trueee so much pain in the de-confirms 😭😭
Both are bound to be disappointed. XD
Ed...
Yo. It’s my twin 😂
Bro um aren't shantae and Dante out as Mii ?
The 10 hit combo is AAAAAAAAAA so if you don’t get it first try keep trying. This is probably one of the hardest combos in Fighting games
or you can just hold a lmao
That pissed me off. Like they said they buffed him because they noticed he isnt that great. But i doubt they were paying him correctry in the first pace.
I want a kazuya player from tekken to play him and then they can judge him. Like some of his moves are faster and seem to just be buffed versions of his tekken moves. Like why does his DB3 need to be that fast? In tekken its super slow. And his Whie rising Foward 2 ony does the stagger on counterhit but in this game it does it a the time. kk
@@mr.voidroy6869
Because smash and tekken are different games so some changes mind need to be made.
@@mr.voidroy6869 to be fair wr2 does exact same stun
@@mr.voidroy6869 A change of pace to fit Smash is a small complaint man.. this just sounds bitchy. You act like they took away the moves instead of just making them better for Smash.
Kazuya: *breathes*
Hungry Box: "HE'S OP!!"
Yeah man, that devil breath is OP
Who knew a breath could destroy a game
@@ispeakforthepeople Sakurai apparently
In a casual breath, Kazuya threw Ganon and Cpt. Falcon off of a cliff.
@@makotoyuki345 Mf took it from Armor King
As a tekken fan i appreciate sakurais work on Kazuya he did his homework tekken at its core is a legacy game its EXTREMELY difficult to master and to be even decent is reallly hard the ceiling for mastering taken is really high so the essence of kazuya is that you can be reallly good if you take the time to learn properly
It’s kind of dumb to me that it actually takes barely any “mastery” or skill imho
@@CAsnowman hes only really good if you can combo with him cuz characters like sephiroth with insane reach or ones like sonic that are fast can easily take him out if you cant combo
except this isn't Tekken it's smash bros
Sakurai basically telling us to “play real fighting games” and I respect it
Totally agree with you Tekken is truly one of the greatest of all time
Ehh not a fan of the 2d side scrollers like tekken lol
@@ragnazero1971 the fact that u said it’s a 2d fighting game already proved my point
@@Sugarist0 LMAOOOOO
well Sakurai is basically a fighting game OG
The Mii costume reveal was a total massacre, lmao
I can accept Dante getting the dunk because his fighting style's kind of ill-suited for Smash, even if he's the granddaddy of combo-oriented beat-'em-up protags and thus led to Bayonetta, but Shantae? She didn't deserve that.
@@CarbonRollerCaco I know right. Shantae deserves better than the Mii Fighter Costume treatment.
@@powerpacplayer256 Honestly, I'd just have Richter be a Simon alt and put Tails in his place so Shantae can be the last DLC. Richter has no reason to be a separate fighter from Simon. Even Dark Samus has more reason to exist as a separate fighter from normal Power Suit Samus.
@@powerpacplayer256 she was a spirit too
How to beat kazuya: Don't shield, *run*
But he has a laser that covers the whole stage and does 12 and kills
@@sheridan5175 yes you right. It hard to escape or hard to beat him because he way to op can wipe out Pyra
Or play his game tekken spacing or zone
Or just play sonic
@@PersonPlayingPiano so run. lmao
The "WHAT?!" after you find out his down smash has a meteor effect AND breaks shield 😂😂😂 I felt that
Wouldn’t be surprised to see a future video called, “I SWITCHED MY MAIN TO KAZUYA”
Your about a day too early
That’s what I’m doing
@@mightyvador haha right
It’s just going to happen
Thank god his victory screens are cool, Im going to see them a lot.
Tragically indeed
good one haha
Every casual is going to be lying on their bed like a dead whale on a beach
Lol that’s me.
I’ve been maining terry lately I’m hype as shit
@Benjamin Tay be on the lookout if you see a kazuya with the name rick it’s probably me hahah
Kazuya spiked my main Dedede, now I'll spike his heart. I'll be ready to take him on.
I’m dead in the water. I’m a solid little Mac main, but this? I’m gonna be stuck in 8mil gsp purgatory.
I love how everyone in the chat goes “JOJO” when sakurai says heavens door
“This is Bayo”
That line alone makes me genuinely scared about this character
This is far scarier than anything bayo could have hoped to be
Bayo combos with Little Mac's tilts and enough grounded options to make neutral hell for your opponents
Nah, its meta knight
Idiots falling for the "new DLC character is broken" click bait like always lmao
@@Gankstomper how you think invincible tripping 90% true combos with 40 kill moves and several shield breakers isn't going to be broken I have no idea
Give this character one week before everyone calls them "held back by their mediocre movement", and rank them B tier.
Yeah he'll come out tomorrow and everyone will go, "oh he's kinda slow". "Oh if you block the laser he's helpless" etc. A few will really learn his kit and will be actually really good, but they'll just get accused of cheating. I don't think it'll be a Smash 4 Bayonetta situation.
also his moves don't have hit-stun and some of them seem punishable on hit a lower percent's
EDIT: Seems I wasn't paying attention and he has hit stun but not hitstop
I feel like that’s going to be the case too. He’s shoto K.Rool, a bag full of gimmicks where once everyone finds out how to counter it the gimmicks become niche and not viable. Now, can he still kill you if you stay too close or don’t react to his approaches? Yeah… Overall though he is a full on bruiser that needs to be countered with zoning and spacing.
Dude looks like he might struggle a bit with killing which is probably why they made him faster to rack up damage and gave him so much invincibility + super armor. I think he’ll be good, but not S tier good.
He’d get demolished by swordies and characters that use the air a lot. None of his aerials could kill unless you get lucky with the nair, and his reliable kill moves only seem to be two tilts, tipper fsmash, up b and grabs. Good luck trying to get kills/kill confirms against a Lucina or anyone who can reach further than his punch. But honestly, he still looks pretty good and mad fun to watch. I can’t be assuming much since his moveset is so diverse and if someone would be willing to lab him all the way out, he could definitely have a chance to beat some of the best.
@@kingoftheseas9991 Well, even zoning and spacing looks difficult because of his laser and the built-in wavedash for approaching
The chat was going wild when they saw Dante wasn’t going to be a character anymore 😂😂
My hopes and dreams were shattered before my eyes!
Super unfortunate
Maybe we can get Phoenix Wright?
@@Shizzy5321 no thanks I do not need a lawyer to beat someone to death. I have a little dog with a pot in a sweater
Isn't Dante an anime sword fighter? Him being disconfirmed is good.
After facing 2408 kazuyas in a row i can confirm he’s overpowered. 3 hits put me at 68%
Kazuya, suffering from success
Kazuya: Jabs
H Box: OMG HE'S BROKEN, AAAAAAHHHHH
Almost every smash pro players whenever a smash character is showed haha
Fact
@@RED-9448 I mean… the last few DLC’s are pretty much all being picked up by pro players. They’re all meta defining characters.
I think this time he might be right though…
@@willblackburn2394 I don't. He doesn't have enough range besides his neutral b which is very slow and you can easily dodge by ducking, jumping, or shielding. He's also just slow in general so fast characters can choke him out but I guess we won't know until he comes out
peanut just sitting here like: there’s no reason for little mac to exist now…
after watching the direct, mac could actually do pretty well against kazuya
minus 1 or even for mac LOL
lmao one move of Kazuya literally one shots Little Mac bc of his lame recovery
@@wolfdragox5563 have you not seen my recoveries bruh
ive already taken that into account. gimping and edge guarding is easier said than done and mac still has mixups
@@wolfdragox5563 man’s underestimating peanut’s recoveries
@@Peanut_SSBU omg hi peanut
Hes gonna be hitting everyone with the DORYA like a true Mishima
All we are missing is OG VC Tooah.
The Mishima hairline
"IT'S ENOUGH MAN" yes, characters in tekken have upwards of a hundred moves, some all the way up to 300
Sakurai said “let’s combine every character together and make him a god”
Nah he said, lets give this people a taste of tekken
*devil
Not really, he's lacking of a lot of things, like no disjoint, no real counter, only one projectile (and not a really complex one), no weird mechanics like steve or olimar, and 99% of his move's are short distance (like almost no mid to long distance)
@@nemesisross42 But he has R.O.B. laser on steroids and multiple moves with invincibility
His ground move is good. But his air moves are not. Ive been playing tekken for years, and tekken has never been about midair combos. Im curious how the smash community will play him.
HB: that's enough
Sakurai: MORE!! MOOORE!!
Kazuya: broken
Min-min from the other side: I missed the part where that's my problem.
did you not stay for the laser camp?
@@JAMman just dodge or reflect if you have the timing.
Nah min min loses
@@iaboth4727 he's strong and has quick startup but got a bit of a endlag problem and his approach his a bit poor since he is quite slow and his aerials are average thought side-b is a bit scary.
@@ununun9995 he literally has a built-in wavedash
PD: Also a reflector
9:05 When hungrybox realise his jigglypuff will not survive to kazuya.
His downair is like Bayo's.
He's Little Mac on crack and Bayonetta's opposite, a grounded combo fighter.
Good that's what we need honestly
I think the only thing stopping this character is that he looks like he’s extremely hard to master.
just like tekken
Meanwhile people who play tekken are salivating lol
Hasn’t stopped anyone before. He’s gonna be insane
me who plays tekken: EASY AS BREATHE
@@Okenpo that was so funny to me 😹 omg
I’m actually losing it, they gave him 3 kill throws, combo throw, and were like “he doesn’t have enough options” and gave him a special input throw to tech chase that does high damage
HBOX SAYS FIGHTERS PASS 3
Don't forget invincibility on multiple moves
@@SantanaBanana47 And super armor! Oh and also good recovery and high damage and combo potential including nice laser beam. But hey if Sakurai thinks he needs it its completely balanced right?
@@VitunVatiVille pretty sure he has an infinite that has just been discovered too lol
@@SantanaBanana47 I just watched a video about it being tested on CPU but i dont know if its "completely "true" against another player but it looked like it was so yeah its GG until it gets fixed.
Note this:
This Kazuya is basically the same Kazuya from Tekken 7; moves, super armor, invincibility, and everything.
And the thing is, Kazuya only ended up with two kill throws: His input throw and up-throw.
Oh, and I know the comment is late as hell, but that’s Tekken for you. Tekken is FULL of different moves and inputs, and not your traditional 4-directional movesets.
That's it, I'm never playing smash online again.
Us:Too many sword characters! Sakurai: Say no more!
This is the most “DLC Privilege” character I’ve ever seen
Smash 4 Players: "First time?"
Next dlc is just gonna be some character with infinite ko punches and super armor throughout the whole match
@Trev3DGaming Mmmmmm no everyone had good reason to complain about pyra and mythra. And they still look OP, just slightly less op compared to this character.
Bayonetta
@@grunkleg.2934 That's doesn't mean people aren't gonna get hit.
“HBOX SAYS FIGHTERS PASS 3”
This character will be a nightmare to fight.
After this I want every character to have input attacks 😂😂
Yes! For Ganon!
Yes! For my boi Lucario
Saame
Hear me out. Remember the custom moves from smash 4? What if they were the command inputs?
@@Totasfunnynumberway too OP
Ex: just every Dedede player switches between all the different kinds of gordos and it is impossible to tell which gordo move it is and you get destroyed
“”hbox says fighters pass 3””
Kazuya: has a move
HBox: AaaaaAAaHhhHhHhHAah
Gotta massively overreact for that epic content bro
10:52 "no one is gonna be able to input all this effectively"
*Laughs in MainManSwe*
Eiiiish
MASKUU
Maskuu
Sakurai: let’s just throw a bit of everything in
None of the
"Is bad"
"Is trash"
Smash compilation will be credible now
Well king of skill will still be making a compilation of epic kazuya combos and wins, while still having the title "kazuya is bad"
"iS fUn" will still reign supreme, though.
There's still a "needs to chill"
There was still the repeated use of "BANNED" when the stage was discussed. Typical competitive who thinks there's only one way to play Smash.
As the announcer once said:
"Get ready for the next battle!"
I’m gonna have such a wonderfully toxic relationship with this character
He has Corrins recovery, Robs beam, Bayos down air, Little Mac´s super armor, Bowsers Cheese, Terry's nair, Ganondorfs warlock punch as his F-Smash, MinMins counter, Steve's first jump, Falcos second jump, more spikes/meteors than DK, better shieldbreaker than Marth's and Lucina's "SHIELDBREAKER", Inklings dash dance, ...
He literally is tekken Kazuya but in smash. Shits crazy. Has all his moves
Not all but quite a 3rd of em lol
@@suli542
"Quite a 3rd"...
Imagine hitting a rlly good combo on kazuya and then they just start spamming the fuck out of A
"So i heard no one wants Sword Character " And thats the price, Rip Dante
Well atleast Sora doesnt have a Sword...
@@kmikko8496 it does have blade in the name, so I'd say it counts as a sword.
Can't argue that with honestly.
"Ya be"
Kazuya feels like the real boss character in the game
Kazuya is the boss character, Sephiroth is the Final boss.
“Hbox says fighter pass 3.”
This is basically “I payed for my moves, so I better have more”
Actually, yes.
"I can't believe he didn't cry during the Titanic"
"Do men even have feelings"
26:54
Me:...
Ikr, maybe we can still get vergil or Nero 😢
Shitty meme bro
@@needamap1390 my salt about it is shitty 😔
Shantae and dante share name rhymes and mii deconfirms
@@ragnazero1971 Add in vergil and make him as busted as he was in UMvC3 and dont even bother nerfing him or anything lol, let his bustedness shine
Bruh you say every character is OP
its all about the clickbait lol
Everyone says the same thing about every new character but legit I think it’s true this time
@@Flip-a-dip-dip nah, his range, speed, and air game is garbage
Every character that is buyable is op dude pay to win
That’s what I’m saying
When kazuya was released everyone thought he would be absolutely broken. Then those people tried playing him, and came to the conclusion that they were absolutely correct.
Sephiroth: I shall give Smash despair.
Kazuya: hold my beer.
Sakurai: Hold my mii costumes
All of the jojo fans freaking out because there is a move called “heavens door”
Me
Plus he has star platinum's gloves and a dio pallette like alt
@@vortexdust8815 YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE GETTING YOUR DANTE AND SHANTAE BUT IT WAS ME KAZUYA!
The gold skin looks like dio to me
@@TheCrAzYfox2332 Ngtl I was popping off hard too
This man has 11 tilt attacks. ELEVEN TILT ATTACKS! 12 if you count Demon God Fist.
"Hbox says fighters pass 3"
Ah yes. The character that will be crazy satisfying to watch good players play, but a nightmare to play against. Fun.
Hbox calling every dlc character op before the character is even released - part 10
he’s got a point this time
nah this time hes got a point, a recovery with a strong hit box and can go the distance, combos you cant even block, mf broke a full shield on one attack, auto turn around so his confirms will be BRAIN DEAD EASY, his damage values are pretty high, tough guy, Hyper armor on smashes, a fast and long reaching projectile that can be angled, side B stuns for a confirm and can be used for recovery without sacrificing up B, BOOSTED RAGE with a K.O punch thats also a command grab and a suicide grab, and thats not even half his kit. You cant help but think this is a little TOO much for one character to have.
@@joetatos8687 i would wait for the character to actually come out.
@@squishy.mp4 tbh ik he's not out yet but every release we seen I said the same thing, wait till he's out to pass judgment, but kazu is a different story after seeing this lol I see no way how thus won't be a dominant top tier
kazuya : his legs is invincible.
me : cries in mewtwo.
the balance: he’s relatively complicated
Not really pretty easy to understand if you’ve ever played tekken. These are a million times easier to do than the actual combos in tekken
Well it seemed like half of his stuff was just spam A so...
Boy if you think this is complicated you’ve never played normal fighting game
@@rickyspanish2833 deadass tho they made Kazuya into an Anime arena fighter now that he can just straight up AAAAAA
Any higher level of complication is better for a well practiced player maining him; It just means your opponent not playing him has to know all the options/interactions....which are a ton it looks like. (E.g, retreating f-tilt, and super armor)
"hbox says fighters pass 3"
kazuya is the new bayonetta
This guy is an unholy combo of Little Mac, Sheik, and Bowser, and I am terrified
Never has someone said "it's good at comboing" so many times in 30 minutes
Hungrybox: Please have a bad recovery.
me, in my head: Oh, you poor soul…
smash bros is the best example of power creep I can find. a newer character in the franchise simply does more things than a character designed in the 1990s and 2000s on average. Kazuya vs Mario for example: Kazuya's side B alone is a combo starter, kill confirm, recovery move, and a burst option. Mario's is a reflector and nothing more. Mario can only do what Kazuya's SIDE B does with 6 of his moves.
I feel like the reason for this power creep is partly the want to sell a character to as many people as possible, and the best way to sell to the competitive side of Smash Bros' fan base would be to make the character top tier. But also Sakurai is leaning harder and harder with every character he makes towards accurate franchise representation, so every new character needs to have as many elements from their home game represented in their kit as possible.
none of this is inherently a bad thing, in fact we got some genuinely good fighters out of Ultimate's DLC, Kazuya included. However the downside to this new method of design Smash seems to be leaning towards is that it makes some character's kits feel a little bloated and all over the place, Kazuya included... again.
Mario and other definitely needs to be updated. Stills tuck with trash slow ass neutral B.
“Hbox say fighters pass 3”
Tekken 7 is basically father and son trying to cancel each other.
"HBox says fighters pass 3"
This is legit if little Mac decided to merge with dlc bayo and then they decided you know what let's also give him a comeback effect. But wait that's not all... He can randomly become a demon. I wish everyone luck 😂
After testing against the level 9 cpu, I am 90% sure he has a potential loop with devil fist.
@@vla1ne guess we need to add that to the list 😂
@@tomb8073 it's devil fist, low back tilt (the little kick), into devil fist, into low tilt, I tested it, and it didn't loop unless the opponent tries standard get up, or getup attack.
Still though, it forces rolls unless your opponent wants to die quick, making reads stupid easy.
@@vla1ne that's actually ridiculously good 😂 thanks for sharing that though mate :)
"HBOX SAYS FIGHTERS PASS 3"
Smash online is about to become a nightmare.
“Hbox says fighters pass 3”
Idk if I’m more hyped or terrified
H box: oh so here are the command inputs
Applebee's: how about a 15 second ad
“Hbox say fighters pass 3”
This character honestly terrifies me
He has Ganon's Side-A, or as I call it, "THE BOOT"
The BOOT
Nice.
Me: Nothing can be more op and than Pyra and Mythra
Kazuya:
He looks like Little Mac's power, with shieks combo ability 😭
And Bowser's frame data
@@mc3941 yeah like wtf
Plus he's a ShOtO
@@williampittman2432 MISHIMA! He’s a Mishima. Know your fighting game terms!
@@makotoyuki345 You're being baited bro
Sonic and Pacman : ez online.
Kazuya : hello there.
Real talk I feel like Pac-Man and Kazuya would be bros because Namco lol
"Hbox says fighters pass 3"
My poor boy Dante is lost to the Mii fighters 😭
We might get vergil keep ya head up
@@shadowdarkria no is unacceptable. I want to see Dante fuck with a bike in smash
“Hbox says Fighter Pass 3” Kazuya is just busted as a whole
"Hbox says Fighters pass 3"
Omg hero has tooany moves
Kazuya: hold my sake
"Hbox says fighters pass 3"
Can't wait to see Kazuya dominating offline tournaments...
If he gets a reflect, every character should get one. No bias
Tbh I think everyone should get those sweet zoom-ins for the throws
says the fool with the inanimate sensation pfp lol
@@normanselva6397 It's a camera mod. Unless I'm wrong.
@Trev3DGaming His attacks are more effective on the ground the double jump will just help him recover everyone says broken when a dlc comes out but weeks later the hype ends so just give it time
@@bruhm0ment6000 surely theres a mod for that, but I meant everyone should get it in the vanilla version
I didn't know Sakurai literally added God into the game as a character
when the heavens door move was mentioned, my eyes drifted to the chat to see...
JoJo
This is gonna be a really fun character to try and learn the combos of. I know that in the past we've seen "OP" characters (steve) turn out to be underwhelming, so I hope he isn't BROKEN broken, but at the same time I'm definitely gonna enjoy thrashing my friends with this guy once he's out.
Also Hbox says fighter pass 3
Was literally hurt by Lloyd, Dante, and Shantae, especially Shantae.
@Chocolate Chips You clearly don't play Shantae.
@Chocolate Chips Shantae uses magic, dances, and weapons, like a pistol, sword, and pirate hat glider.
I actually GAINED health seeing them turned into miis, rather than being actual fighters. Dante and Shantae fans were almost up there with Waluigi fans
@@Vyhox2000 Yeah don't get me wrong I am STOKED to see them in Smash I'm so happy they're in, but I really wanted them as stand-alone fighters. I'll still take it.
Shantae does have a moveset but the potential is not in just having a moveset it's in interest and gimmick.
What would be Shantae's mechanic and play style and does wayforward, Sakurai, and Nintendo care about making it happen?
I'm going to assume that 2 out of those pre-requisites haven't been met.
They implemented all of his moves really well, its so beautiful hahaha
And now the beam officially will annoy tekken players, street fighter players and smash players hahaha
“Hbox says fighters pass 3”
The look on his face when the electric wind punch came out tho lmao
People: DLC needs to be better, the only good DLC was Joker.
Kazuma: I got you.
Edit: I am basing this off of ZeRo's tier list.
Nobody has ever said that who knew what they were talking about
Every DLC has been at least high tier except byleth and maybe banjo
Steve & Terry were OP as well. It ain’t just joker
@Drago Slayer like 90% pro smash players would always rate joker S tier with pikachu. How is that not OP?🙄
@Drago Slayer He's top 3 easily lol (joker)
@@ReydelSans I wouldn't call Steve or Terry "op". Solid high tiers, but they both struggle with range.
Everyone here talking about Kazuya when they did my boy Dante dirty like that.
I got hurt more by shantae but yeah RIP both
I feel for anyone who wanted Dante, that must really suck. I know what it's like, my boy Shadow got deconfirmed and I'm still upset about that to this day
They didn’t even say the name of his series lol
@@razor8304 That was just a slap in the face
"HBox says Fighters Pass 3"
This character actually scares me. Can't wait to try out the combo game, though
I think he seems to be good, but it's too soon to say if he's broken or not.
He'll be a nightmare in some match-ups and get destroyed in others
Beam!
A tier minimum! Could be S. It's early, but that's my predictions.
It all depends on his movement options, imo. It could be like an Incineroar situation-great move set but poor mobility. If he can be outmaneuvered, he can be easily beat… Unfortunately, he has a spammable projectile, so he can comfortably sit in range while being zoned.
@@AlfredEiji the crouch dash also helps him deal with people like samus and depending on the angle of the attack even min min