I get reminded how many people measure their self-worth by how strong they are in a MMO when there is a tier reset, people need to chill out. What did they expect, honestly? It is madness.
I've always said the day they prioritize a business model that "Protects the Players Fun" vs "Protecting the bottom line there monetization models" - They need to lower the expectation for whaling and create systems that ultimately can have a balance between both, with allowing for new players to join & have fun at near the highest of levels without a massive expectation of $ value. But with also respecting the large whales and giving them options to "go as far as they desire" but never forgetting about the main course "Prioritize Fun not Money"
The problem is how many vertical systems are in the game now all which give large gaps in damage compared to how it used to be when all we had was honing/gems/tripods, I still have only 2 lvl 10 gems on my main and i've been playing since the game launched in the west, this is single handedly one of the worst systems in the game imo. over 19.6k lvl 1 gems to make a lvl 10? make higher lvl gems drop from higher chaos dungeons to alleviate this, it's not rocket science lol the only people with full lvl 10's for the most part were RMT and we're expected to have our alts full 10's too? 😤
@@thatrandomguyo1 yeah but the sheer number required is still extremely high, it takes months unless you're playing 10+ characters running chaos dungeons daily. The highest chaos dungeons don't give nearly enough.
I all honesty if you have been playing the game since launce and only have 2 level 10 gems to show for it you are doing something wrong. You can get gems from vendors (kayangel, boat, the siege events) You can also buy gems from the auction house. I would recommend playing a class that doesn't require a boat load of gems, BK Breakers, Surge DB, stuff like that were you can excel with less.
@@AscendentGaming There is no way you have only 2 lv10 gems by now if you have been playing this game since its launch. I do rested chaos dungeons and 2 cubes per character per week and I can make a lv10 gem every 4-5 weeks. Even some of my alts have lv10 gems. Some I bought from the market when they were low in price, others I made myself. You are clearly doing something wrong or you are playing the game very casually. If you have a roster of 6 at 1600+ and you do your stuff at the bare minimum (not doing CD every single day or spending all cube tickets), then you should've been able to get more than 2 lv10 gems by now.
People just don't know yet. But 5x5 books range from 100-500k. If we're taking Zeals and Saint into account, they bought their books cheap 40-100k. Before the prices rocket. Just like that Adren 500x5 is 2.5million. That one level 10 t4 attack gem. Mind you currently if you sell everything, 18 raids end game on at least half your looking at 400k-500 a week. It will take you on average 1 month to finish just the Adren set. Let alone grudge. So the disparity between players on a hardreset day month one can be anywhere between 0-80%. Full books + upper stone 9/7-8 is like 25-30%, Legged Accessories, 10-20%, t9/10 gems 5-10%, honing in ilvl 1-5ish%., perfect elixirs 5-10%. Ill be real the it's not looking good for f2p. You can take it slow, but those ahead because not everything was hard reset. Are lightyears ahead in the soft/hardreset.
I knew when t4 was announced that it was going to be a big win for the whales, however I don't even interact with them. They can pay to have easier gameplay as long as SG remembers not everyone is that level and doesn't overly make raids too hard. Because honestly this is all a byproduct of raids being too difficult. I said Clown should have been nerfed a long time ago, but a lot of people were like, "Noo! It's fun and fine!" However, as a community everyone also decided they didn't want to play with anyone else that wasn't 50 ilvls over the raid requirement. Yeah, that raid was fun after you overgeared it, in fact a lot of raids are still fun after you overgear them. Raids don't need to be hair pulling chores to have fun, and SG seems to be walking this line of how to milk whales by artificially increasing raid difficulty while not killing the majority of the userbase with stress.
Honestly i thought clown was fun right at the beginning. The dispair of thinking damn i might never clear this to then clearing and then reclearing extremely quickly. I was 5 ilvls above with 4x3 engravings and it was cleared first week. I don't remember the gems i had but i'm sure they were garbage.
don't wanna flame you or anything but sometimes a game is not for everybody, the example you just gave especially is far away from truth, you can easily clear clown with 4 people on ilvl, it just takes some practice and after a bit it's a farm content even on garbage chars, that applies to every single raids so far except maybe for hard brel and hm thaem on release which did take a while for people to get comfortable on ilvl, but even now a fresh 1630 goes to thaemine g1-4 and it's a cake walk most of the time unless people are super trolling and not respecting the raids. Like with as you said "50 ilvl overgeared" chars you finish the raids like 10 minutes before the berserk timer so ... That's not even fun at that point, they might as well give you a button saying "redeem gold" at this point instead of going into raid. But obviously as I said I'm not oblivious to jails, with pugs and easy raid can become a nightmare but then again the game is not for everyone maybe. It's all about how good/bad or how much time someone can use to play. But a lot of times it's also people just loving to complain all the time. People can type for 10hrs on reddit instead of watching a guide on how to improve at the raid & game.
tier3 was also pay to win : Akkan and Brel ancient honing, bracelets, elixir, transcendance, gems, cards, Esther weapon, 97 stones, quality 100, high quality accessories, legendary skins. when we were trying to get 1370 for Argos there were groups at 1490 one shoting him and tanking mech, where we were trying not to restart. thaemine the first was the pinnacle time of p2w. its just that now there are some people with balls that speaks the truth where some very famous streamers are just extreme hypocrites that thought hiding this will do good to the game. ark passive is not pay 2 win at all since there's no gambling, and gems are more balanced now since they added passive on them and less power behind lv10. also stones are more fair since they are more choices and less power behind 97. and there are a lot of quality free tap to get good quality for free.. I don't know what are people complaining about t4 being p2w when it's trying to balance things a little bit. karma seems not insane like elixir and transcendance rng.
@@petetam7394 you're able to progress in ark passive without rmt by clearing aegis simply. its nothing to do with honing, quality 100, 97stone, bracelet. you're a bozo and don't understand what p2w means. you're stronger with ark passive even if you don't get all relic book. you can loot accessories and get enough points even if they're not bis. you don't understand t4 at all.
@@clementguitard6653 while it is true that UNLOCKING ark passive's armor "evolution" points is not overly P2W since it can be compared to unlocking sets (like going from T2 to T3), you have to acknowledge that ark passive's accessory "enlightenment" points being unlocked as you "cut/hone" accessories is kind of ridiculous. there's also the p2w aspect of accessories now having a similar progression system as T3 bracelets on top of quality, so while your average player will settle on a subpar cut but higher quality accessories to save on accessory honing pieces, a whale will now have the equivalent of 6 bracelets they can min max lines on.
bruh do you have 20+ mil to buy your relic books? How about the power difference in the accessory rolls. Not to mention the Karma system they are bringing out. If you think T4 is less p2w you are mistaken.
to be honest early t4 looks doomed, the true change you could get from achieving t4 1640 is supposed to be HyperSkill and HyperAwakening but as smilegate said at the last loa on they delayed because those systems aren't ready in time, but AGS copied their schedule and we got 1 month being buffed T3 chars. Nobody would complain because farming content and aegir prog could become much much easier. For the first time i feel really overwhelmed and quitting its in my mind, lets wait for the patch notes and wait for easier access to ark passive. Thanks for keep giving us goated content miso
Miso, usually im with you, but in this case its a hard disagree. The move from t2 to t3 is not the same as t3 to t4. T2 to t3 was a hard reset. Nothing carried over. T3 to t4 is soft reset, many things carry over. Zeals is saying what he is saying knowing this is the case. This means its not anything near the same as what you are explaining. T4 could have been a good thing, but its implementation was poor at best. SG did what they did best, create systems to create fomo to try and milk money off you. The fact you cant even unlock anything from t4 until you are much higher than 1640 speaks to this. This game is in deep trouble because of greed.
@@itisthefear basically the only real way to make a vertical progression system work. if you don't have resets and keep stacking systems on top of systems, then you'll just be leaving slower and newer players behind and they will end up too far away from whales and veterans. lost ark has nothing keeping players interested outside of raids, so the wider the gap between a casual and trailblazer is the worse it will be for playerbase numbers. AGS and tencent can probably fix this by making SG put in more player friendly changes like giving a choice of elixir sets instead of luck set, transcendence 5-7 instead of 3, an event that gives LoS 30, T3 level 9 gems, and more things like that. ark passive systems for equipment, accessories, bracelets, and engraving books are already a lot of new systems to deal with and spend on and there's even T4 gems, new optimal ability stone cuts, newer players having to deal with a 10-20 ilvl difference since they didn't get to do advance honing in T3, and more. even in other korean mmos they do not continuously stack systems and over time rework or remove them as they add new ones, so miso saying it's the korean standard just isn't true.
This is not exactly a soft Reset. They make it seem like a soft reset by letting somethings carry over but the shards don't. Shards are going to be your biggest bottleneck in T4. You gear gets replaced, your accessories completely change, your bracelet gets replaced. Its a hard reset done the worst way possible. Increasing the disparity between spenders and non spenders. They need to remove so much power behind basically the P2W aspect of it rather give p2w smaller boosts there should never be a 70% difference from people doing the same content taking into account they are progressed similarly.
@@TyroneBigguns-mk3og It is a combination of soft and hard reset, but it leans more towards a soft reset considering that a lot of things from T3 carry over to T4 while others that don't are essentially the same system but reworked to a certain degree. Also, I think the 70% difference in power is a bit stretched. There is a more significant power spike than it was in T3, but then again that is also because people have not uniformly unlocked their T4 stuff. TBH, a lot of the hard modes of the raids in Lost Ark were designed for whales. Akkan, Ivory Tower, Thaemine, Aegir, new Brel to name a few. But also the older ones. Not many people were Valtan HM ready on launch, or Vykas HM.
@@Kalimdor199Menegroth Mixing the 2 types of resets is literally the worst thing you can do. Having to refarm books again? but not just 2 this time you need 5. A Hard reset atleast puts everyone on the same playing field to start. This medium reset bs is literally the worst.
I'm going to hard disagree. I'll put this in both subjective and objective terms as a day 1 continuous player with no pay for power (non g2g / f2p+ /battlepass only .. etc) Subjectively, from argos to brel I can have 1 or 2 characters hitting average meta requirements day 1 of the raid with 1-2 months after bringing rest of the 6 character roster closer to if not up to the end game (aka 6 main's). With Akkan, 1 or 2 on normal mode with main hm possible with swiping, rest of the roster took 3-4 months to bring up to akkan hm). For ivory tower and definitely thaemine and echina only main can barely hit nm with 2-3 in stuck in ivory tower and the rest in akkan. To explain my subjective experience let look at the game in the objective sense. As long as you are in a Tier, the material and gold requirement for honing is non linear. This is because not only are all of the materials increasing but the chances are decreasing. You illustration of the different barrier moments are the soft reset that SG during brel and akkan. While they help to not bankrupt f2p players, the reset honing percent still was progressively lowered (roughly from memory: brel post reset had you honing around 10-20%, and akkan quickly down to 5-10%) Not to mention our lovely elixir and transcendence system. These two fuckers, added not only more gold subtraction into the math above but time (through gated per clear, and also in rolling the damn thing) Of course not only is everything costing more late T3, but raid are harder (more gatekeeping, more jails, less access to power) Finally let circle back to the point that zeals was trying to make, what did T4 did for all of these pressure points: nothing. T4 is essentially a soft reset in everything but name. You can't effectively play t4 content without full elixir and transcendence because no parties is going to accept "rats" . You are keeping the same gems so the whales aren't losing any relative power. There is nothing bringing the balance back into a level set playing field. I understand all of this is done to not piss off whales but let no pretend it did anything for new or even existing players. NOTHING has changed in the balance of power.
This game will always have gold sinks, it cannot work otherwise, it is a constant progression game. What T4 has done is make all these systems less cancerous, look at how engravings work, how ark passive is set up, accessories, books , they are all a better version of their T3 coutnerparts. Zeals' take is completely onesided, he completely ignores the fact that we had the exact same issue in early T3 launch and he is trying to be over dramatic in order to get attention. If you think that only the whales would be dissappointed if they did a hard reset you are completely clueless, you think all those F2P players who have been grinding hard for 2 years + would be okey with having all of their progress wiped? A LOT OF things have changed, starting from the fact that they have made a more healthy base for the game with the early T4 systems and that both NM/HM now drop the same materials, your progression is no longer locked behind HM. None of the late T3 raids / early T4 raids are as hard as Clown or Brel on Western Launch by the way.
@@itisthefear I understand that game need gold sinks, companies needs profits and all that. Up till when I quit recently I would have replied the very same way. Debating whether T4 is p2w or is Brel/Clown harder than Thaemine /echidna is missing the forest for the tree. What should be address is that LoA have an end game population or mobility problem. T4 ark passive make it easier to achieve a "passable setup" but you can argue that T3's free 5x3 is a mini version of that but do you think it makes any difference for new players to even get into pug akkan nm lobbies? The stress levers SG build in for the those p2w thing will always drive top end players to look for the best of the best. Even in KR where SG when to their favorite bandaid solution of express events where you are given some level of transcendence and welfare 40 set elixir, I can imagine what will happen in the west. Reddit threads would pop up immediately on how to gatekeep f2p rats, imposters because there is such a demand in skill, top end gear due to the pressure from the p2w loop. And as top end players thin due to burn out, lost interest, drawn to another game, or just IRL, that demand and gatekeeping will be even harder to grasp at every last juicer in existence. Which lead back to the original point, did T4 do anything to address this, and i have to say HECK NO.
@@snowpuppii You are mixing up P2W with gatekeeping and game knowledge. The game will always have a learning curve, whether p2w is there or not Gatekeeping will always be around. 1. We STILL dont know how AGS will change T4 in our version, Roxx hinted that Aegir might have it's ilvl reduced in the West 2. New players NEED TO PLAY with new players. This will never change. Gatekeeping will always be around.
@@itisthefear new players needing to play with new players is more of a reducing playerbase numbers issue moreso than being a gatekeeping issue. if there were more prog/learning parties like in korea, then there would be far less new player complaints. as for your prior message's point on korean whales AND veteran players being disappointed if there were a hard reset, you should realize that it is due to korean player (new and veteran) dissatisfaction that they added more legendary cards to merchants and more recently added a free 40 set elixir and level 3 transcendence to the express. there was no player backlash when they gave these old power systems away for free. even veterans have a use for a free up to date character being given away (for example, maybe their main or a gold earner feels awful to play after a change/nerf). it's strictly due to SG's greed that they don't simply give out a 40 set elixir selector (instead of just luck), level 5 trans, and LoS18/24 set (or adding the last few cards of LoS into merchants).
I agree if someone pays money into the game and progresses as a result, as long as it is guaranteed that I can also progress in the game without paying money. I'm a bit worried though as I was hoping to hear more about future solo raids from SG or AGS. In my opinion, these are necessary so that new players can find their way into the game and old players who have had enough of the toxic group dynamics and the endless search for groups stay in the game. Had to repost the comment with changes because Tyrone was getting on my nerves and I've now blocked him. Hopefully
You need to remember that when we jumped intp T3 going from T2, none of us had any power systems we needed to carry over. Trans and Elixir are MANDATORY systems that you NEED from T3 and are very very expensive with multilayers of RNG. Just imagine being a new player jumping in, realizing you have to farm old content for weeks, with power systems as brutal and badly explained as elixir and trans, with gatekeeping still being just as bad if not most likely worse. That would be the easiest uninstall of my life. Either they massively rework these two systems, or the game is over by 2025. I’m willing to put money on this. Those two options are the only realistic scenarios I see. At least for the West, 100%.
imagine when the abrelshud chapter 2 came out in the west , you guys will be fucked in gate 1 forever , cannot aford everything that kr have for dps check in g1
I am just very happy to see normal mode vertical progression is equal to hard mode. The vast majority of players will just do normal until at a comfortable lower level from the new vertical progression system. That is fine for me and what my biggest gripe was around Theamine, Voldis, and Echidna. Behemoth, Aegir/Brel fixes that.
Tbh they should give free powerpasses all the time straight to the middle of T3. With how much work you have to do for one character to push it from story to t4, no new player will even try to touch the game without a express
You weren't this far behind when T3 came out because stuff like relic set didn't even exist until they released valtan and by the time they did that the gap had closed a lot then it didn't really change again until Brel but most people were already 1490 by the time brel hit so again they weren't really that far behind. T4 is basically the equivalent of comparing a fresh T3 character to someone with +20 relic gear(1575). There were people doing Aegir basically 100 ilvl over it at launch.... that's kinda nuts.
the dps gap between casuals and giga whales will widen even further in T4. It should've been a hard reset. the game is doomed, pretty sure it won''t last until 2026.
@@Minotking most lost ark players play for MVP/cruel underline. this is why most players have a 5-6 dps roster. the wider the dps gap a veteran has vs whales, the less reason for them to continue investing as much effort into the game.
@@ShoopSurf majority is not exactly the word i would use... gatekeeping is usually based on more than the minimum requirement to clear the raid. outside of situations like the first couple weeks of a raid release and for older raids, gatekeeping is usually based around the top players as they like to play with others at their investment level. you'll see a couple raids now and then full of alts, but these are usually not gatekept at all or are already full of premades who can carry the damage.
Zeals take is a little bad on this, but it's also nothing new. Game is P2W. Sidereal weapons exist. Even in Thaemine a whale party cleared first and people echo'd p2w bc of the sidereal skills lol. Like everyone should know what the game is at this point, esp if they're still playing. Some core elements like that will never change. With that being said, there have been groups that aren't whaled out of their mind to clear Brel 2.0. Most say G2 is easier than G1. G1 isn't hard bc they aren't high enough ilvl, G1 is hard because for some reason SG thought it'd be smart to not let them have the heat scrolls week 1. Hopefully AGS changes that when we get Brel in December or Jan. This just seems to be fear mongering if I'm bein honest, because this is NOTHING new. Like we'll have guides from ATK/memo/whoever and it'll make clearing all these raids way easier than Korea had.
he said " As soon as people get closer closer to Lv10 gems" so basically go save up gold for 12 weeks don't use it so you buy a "2.5m Gold gem" only one. assuming our version follows Kr pricing. ofc thats not the case cuz nearly almost everyone RMT a little bit 200k~500k ish here and there . ok there are some loyal players who either use in game shop or just pure f2p , but lets be real. For people who doesnt know. the difference between p2w through RMT and legal P2W is (10x). what it means if u pay 500$ from the in game shop for gold conversion you get it for only 50$ by RMTing. am not gona lie i did RMT , everyone i know RMTs. all statics i joined RMT. and every single one in my friend list does. cuz no one in his right mind will pay 10x more for the same amount you can just get banned and u still got 9x left to RMT ur self back. same concept for those using DPS check software's. why would they ban them if everyone are uses it. we follow the same mentality everyone does it lets just do it cuz surely they wont punish everyone for it. and everyone who get caught RMTing goes through the 3 warnings policy. where the last warning is the perma ban. Going back to Lv10 gem statement. as i returned recently and i plan to play full no life with all my 6x 1620 characters but no more RMT i didnt RMT for so so so long time and i plan to stay that way so i can quit easier if i burnout. Am be real with my self i will never be able to afford Lv10 gem with this new play style of mine unless i make huge sacrifices on my progress like missing out the new raid releases. However. am the most one who will benefit from that choice the most because i play 6 of the same class ( Bards ) which is honestly luxury. My current plans for T4: -Be efficient and farm for the long term with the 6x characters since shards are reset to 0 -Stay cool be late to the new raids watch out for a bit if its a mess just park and sell gold RMT. cuz the hype for T4 isnt that big anyway and we saw alot of drama from KR -No life the game (Una-Daily-PvP new season) till PoE2 release -stick with your friends that returned to the game in preparation for T4 so they dont quit early. save runs for them and dont finish ur raids early so your friends can last longer -stay updated with reddit cuz the drama there is more content than the actual game which is insane repetition. I love lost ark so much , but i hate its systems and the methods implanted to gain profits its disgusting. but we can adapt to the that. the problem is the in game party finder turned into a survival game and its so toxic. rly sadge , people are so toxic its not their fault at all they are trying to survive in this game with less time spent every week due how the (systems) are designed. Lastly , pls dont read my comment its just me before going to bed talking to my self. xdd
I think the game will lose players with t4. A lot of people will decide to play throne and liberty instead of lost ark. And i doubt any new or returning player would rather sit in party finder simulator in lost ark instead of playing tnl.
@@Balmung_ i believe this is how they attract players and hook them to the game, then more systems comes up that are more p2w and thats what happened in almost every ncsoft game idk if amazon being included would change anything
@@moru2546 Amazon have said that they work with NCsoft closely and they don't want extreme p2w. Also even though this game is korean MMO, its mostly made for western audience. P2W is kept to a minimum as far as korean mmos are concerned. Comparing to lost ark acording to a streamer, you can spend 1/150 what you need to spend in lost ark to get max everything. No stupid systems like card sets either (probably the worse design ive ever seen in a game). Lastly this game already flopped in korea and they are targeting western audience that hates p2w. Im sure they realise that if they increase p2w their game will die. AGS already has experience with that in lost ark.
@@cleaved3453 gotta remember that combat between TL and LA are drastically different and imo lost ark's combat just feels superior. also since lost ark is really only centered around raiding content, I really don't think they are meant for the same audience.
it is only pay to win if you rush t4 and there is no need to. if you built your roster to let's say one main that 1645 right and the reset are 1620. those 1620 become 1640 and they are your farmers pass everything to your main too they are done then go down the list. don't sell your matts less you really need the gold, but you are better on keeping them i been telling people this since day one. same for t4. the raid you are going to be doing are the same ones. KR also gatekeeps harder than us.
Everyone in the comment speculating and acting like their opinion on something is a fact. The bottom line is T4 is extremely P2W and SG knows what they are doing. They know LA won't be around forever so they are milking their cash cow dry. they are trying to extract as much money out of it as possible. This is shows by the type of reset they did. Its a hard/soft reset. You can't really say its one or the other. Its def not a hard reset and its def not a soft reset. Its literally the worst type of reset for anyone that is F2P or casual. They need to reconsider how they are doing this. These crazy ilvl requirement for Raids is something they need to look at. They need to bring the general population up to the most current content which is HM not NM. This gives them the option to struggle in HM or go clear NM. This also unites the community giving players the option to prog together. This allows newer players to learn the fights with veteran players as it is literally the only time everyone can learn together. Gatekeeping is never as bad at the start of a new raid launch. Until they fix this the game will just continue to die. Old progression systems like elixirs and trans need to have their gold costs removed. They need to remove a bit of the RNG. Having Every system in the game RNG is exhausting and infuriating. Even the current gold events are RNG based why not give the players gold and and some RNG in it like give 100k a week to everyone and give a chance to win a]dditional As it is currently there are people that have not hit and people that have it 5 times or more.
@TLDW1986 reset implies it starts over. Of what you listed, only bracelets and accessories is there a true reset. Everything else is just extended to progress further from what you have, but you aren't starting them over.
I hard disagree that p2w is the same as before and t3 and t4 ceilling are the same because in t3 we didn't have as many vertical systems that we do now
Everything will remain p2w until idiots stop spending so much on pixels. Wait until our economy hits great depression levels soon, it'll be a new golden age of gaming
stupid reasoning and very ignorant statement. its when the economy is good that people are doing less predatory systems and healthy creativeness like in the early 2000. because they care less about maximizing revenue. the economy is very bad right now since years ( 2009 krash then covid/global energy crisis in 2020) that's why you got stupid far right politicians everywhere and dangerous marketing. Great Depression = fascism and ww2. Great Depression = predatory economy
If you think you will be able to play any game if the economy hits rock bottom , you are either 1- already rich beyond worry (and own a lot of immovable assets) or 2- delusional
Thank you for this video. Im glad you added some clarifications for people who might have forgotten or were not here when T3 dropped. Sadly certain streamers lately prefer to create drama instead of building some excitement around T4. What i want to add is that so far all T4 raids provide the same materials for progression both in NM and HM (same way Akkan did back in the day). Even if the raid is "too hard" on week 1, you can just do NM for a couple of weeks and then get back on HM. I dont understand why we have to build everything around FOMO and frustrate ourselves so much.
After those dramas , zeal did show us that he will do and say anything for more follower/ business/money , so I can't trust anything from him , and things u said just make sense , lets whales spend and you enjoy your game for free and have fun !! (Unless you want look like a whale but not spend as one for reasons ...😂😂)
You're absolutely delusional and have Zeals rent free. He cut 40mins of him talking on stream about how t4 is in kr not some diabolical plan, he's right the game is bleeding players in all regions.
I get reminded how many people measure their self-worth by how strong they are in a MMO when there is a tier reset, people need to chill out. What did they expect, honestly? It is madness.
I've always said the day they prioritize a business model that "Protects the Players Fun" vs "Protecting the bottom line there monetization models" - They need to lower the expectation for whaling and create systems that ultimately can have a balance between both, with allowing for new players to join & have fun at near the highest of levels without a massive expectation of $ value. But with also respecting the large whales and giving them options to "go as far as they desire" but never forgetting about the main course "Prioritize Fun not Money"
The problem is how many vertical systems are in the game now all which give large gaps in damage compared to how it used to be when all we had was honing/gems/tripods, I still have only 2 lvl 10 gems on my main and i've been playing since the game launched in the west, this is single handedly one of the worst systems in the game imo. over 19.6k lvl 1 gems to make a lvl 10? make higher lvl gems drop from higher chaos dungeons to alleviate this, it's not rocket science lol the only people with full lvl 10's for the most part were RMT and we're expected to have our alts full 10's too? 😤
I mean the number of gems does increase as you go up in chaos, just because its' 3 level 1s instead of a level 2 means nothing?
@@thatrandomguyo1 yeah but the sheer number required is still extremely high, it takes months unless you're playing 10+ characters running chaos dungeons daily. The highest chaos dungeons don't give nearly enough.
I all honesty if you have been playing the game since launce and only have 2 level 10 gems to show for it you are doing something wrong. You can get gems from vendors (kayangel, boat, the siege events) You can also buy gems from the auction house.
I would recommend playing a class that doesn't require a boat load of gems, BK Breakers, Surge DB, stuff like that were you can excel with less.
@@AscendentGaming There is no way you have only 2 lv10 gems by now if you have been playing this game since its launch. I do rested chaos dungeons and 2 cubes per character per week and I can make a lv10 gem every 4-5 weeks. Even some of my alts have lv10 gems. Some I bought from the market when they were low in price, others I made myself. You are clearly doing something wrong or you are playing the game very casually. If you have a roster of 6 at 1600+ and you do your stuff at the bare minimum (not doing CD every single day or spending all cube tickets), then you should've been able to get more than 2 lv10 gems by now.
People just don't know yet. But 5x5 books range from 100-500k. If we're taking Zeals and Saint into account, they bought their books cheap 40-100k. Before the prices rocket. Just like that Adren 500x5 is 2.5million. That one level 10 t4 attack gem. Mind you currently if you sell everything, 18 raids end game on at least half your looking at 400k-500 a week. It will take you on average 1 month to finish just the Adren set. Let alone grudge.
So the disparity between players on a hardreset day month one can be anywhere between 0-80%. Full books + upper stone 9/7-8 is like 25-30%, Legged Accessories, 10-20%, t9/10 gems 5-10%, honing in ilvl 1-5ish%., perfect elixirs 5-10%.
Ill be real the it's not looking good for f2p. You can take it slow, but those ahead because not everything was hard reset. Are lightyears ahead in the soft/hardreset.
5x20 books no? you still need to read 20 relic books per engraving but it now just comes with a stat gain every +5 instead of all at once at +20
Miso should I make aero or support for ignite? I’m roster 180 and Los 30 I like both but don’t want gate keep and I’m not a whale
@@dragonquake you will probably get least gatekept as a support
I knew when t4 was announced that it was going to be a big win for the whales, however I don't even interact with them. They can pay to have easier gameplay as long as SG remembers not everyone is that level and doesn't overly make raids too hard. Because honestly this is all a byproduct of raids being too difficult. I said Clown should have been nerfed a long time ago, but a lot of people were like, "Noo! It's fun and fine!" However, as a community everyone also decided they didn't want to play with anyone else that wasn't 50 ilvls over the raid requirement. Yeah, that raid was fun after you overgeared it, in fact a lot of raids are still fun after you overgear them. Raids don't need to be hair pulling chores to have fun, and SG seems to be walking this line of how to milk whales by artificially increasing raid difficulty while not killing the majority of the userbase with stress.
Honestly i thought clown was fun right at the beginning. The dispair of thinking damn i might never clear this to then clearing and then reclearing extremely quickly. I was 5 ilvls above with 4x3 engravings and it was cleared first week. I don't remember the gems i had but i'm sure they were garbage.
don't wanna flame you or anything but sometimes a game is not for everybody, the example you just gave especially is far away from truth, you can easily clear clown with 4 people on ilvl, it just takes some practice and after a bit it's a farm content even on garbage chars, that applies to every single raids so far except maybe for hard brel and hm thaem on release which did take a while for people to get comfortable on ilvl, but even now a fresh 1630 goes to thaemine g1-4 and it's a cake walk most of the time unless people are super trolling and not respecting the raids. Like with as you said "50 ilvl overgeared" chars you finish the raids like 10 minutes before the berserk timer so ... That's not even fun at that point, they might as well give you a button saying "redeem gold" at this point instead of going into raid.
But obviously as I said I'm not oblivious to jails, with pugs and easy raid can become a nightmare but then again the game is not for everyone maybe. It's all about how good/bad or how much time someone can use to play.
But a lot of times it's also people just loving to complain all the time. People can type for 10hrs on reddit instead of watching a guide on how to improve at the raid & game.
tier3 was also pay to win : Akkan and Brel ancient honing, bracelets, elixir, transcendance, gems, cards, Esther weapon, 97 stones, quality 100, high quality accessories, legendary skins. when we were trying to get 1370 for Argos there were groups at 1490 one shoting him and tanking mech, where we were trying not to restart. thaemine the first was the pinnacle time of p2w. its just that now there are some people with balls that speaks the truth where some very famous streamers are just extreme hypocrites that thought hiding this will do good to the game. ark passive is not pay 2 win at all since there's no gambling, and gems are more balanced now since they added passive on them and less power behind lv10. also stones are more fair since they are more choices and less power behind 97. and there are a lot of quality free tap to get good quality for free.. I don't know what are people complaining about t4 being p2w when it's trying to balance things a little bit. karma seems not insane like elixir and transcendance rng.
@@petetam7394 you're able to progress in ark passive without rmt by clearing aegis simply. its nothing to do with honing, quality 100, 97stone, bracelet. you're a bozo and don't understand what p2w means. you're stronger with ark passive even if you don't get all relic book. you can loot accessories and get enough points even if they're not bis. you don't understand t4 at all.
@@clementguitard6653 while it is true that UNLOCKING ark passive's armor "evolution" points is not overly P2W since it can be compared to unlocking sets (like going from T2 to T3), you have to acknowledge that ark passive's accessory "enlightenment" points being unlocked as you "cut/hone" accessories is kind of ridiculous. there's also the p2w aspect of accessories now having a similar progression system as T3 bracelets on top of quality, so while your average player will settle on a subpar cut but higher quality accessories to save on accessory honing pieces, a whale will now have the equivalent of 6 bracelets they can min max lines on.
bruh do you have 20+ mil to buy your relic books? How about the power difference in the accessory rolls. Not to mention the Karma system they are bringing out. If you think T4 is less p2w you are mistaken.
to be honest early t4 looks doomed, the true change you could get from achieving t4 1640 is supposed to be HyperSkill and HyperAwakening but as smilegate said at the last loa on they delayed because those systems aren't ready in time, but AGS copied their schedule and we got 1 month being buffed T3 chars. Nobody would complain because farming content and aegir prog could become much much easier. For the first time i feel really overwhelmed and quitting its in my mind, lets wait for the patch notes and wait for easier access to ark passive. Thanks for keep giving us goated content miso
Miso, usually im with you, but in this case its a hard disagree. The move from t2 to t3 is not the same as t3 to t4. T2 to t3 was a hard reset. Nothing carried over. T3 to t4 is soft reset, many things carry over. Zeals is saying what he is saying knowing this is the case. This means its not anything near the same as what you are explaining.
T4 could have been a good thing, but its implementation was poor at best. SG did what they did best, create systems to create fomo to try and milk money off you. The fact you cant even unlock anything from t4 until you are much higher than 1640 speaks to this. This game is in deep trouble because of greed.
@@mazder0 so what exactly is your solution? Do a hard reset?
@@itisthefear basically the only real way to make a vertical progression system work. if you don't have resets and keep stacking systems on top of systems, then you'll just be leaving slower and newer players behind and they will end up too far away from whales and veterans. lost ark has nothing keeping players interested outside of raids, so the wider the gap between a casual and trailblazer is the worse it will be for playerbase numbers. AGS and tencent can probably fix this by making SG put in more player friendly changes like giving a choice of elixir sets instead of luck set, transcendence 5-7 instead of 3, an event that gives LoS 30, T3 level 9 gems, and more things like that. ark passive systems for equipment, accessories, bracelets, and engraving books are already a lot of new systems to deal with and spend on and there's even T4 gems, new optimal ability stone cuts, newer players having to deal with a 10-20 ilvl difference since they didn't get to do advance honing in T3, and more. even in other korean mmos they do not continuously stack systems and over time rework or remove them as they add new ones, so miso saying it's the korean standard just isn't true.
This is not exactly a soft Reset. They make it seem like a soft reset by letting somethings carry over but the shards don't. Shards are going to be your biggest bottleneck in T4. You gear gets replaced, your accessories completely change, your bracelet gets replaced. Its a hard reset done the worst way possible. Increasing the disparity between spenders and non spenders.
They need to remove so much power behind basically the P2W aspect of it rather give p2w smaller boosts there should never be a 70% difference from people doing the same content taking into account they are progressed similarly.
@@TyroneBigguns-mk3og It is a combination of soft and hard reset, but it leans more towards a soft reset considering that a lot of things from T3 carry over to T4 while others that don't are essentially the same system but reworked to a certain degree. Also, I think the 70% difference in power is a bit stretched. There is a more significant power spike than it was in T3, but then again that is also because people have not uniformly unlocked their T4 stuff.
TBH, a lot of the hard modes of the raids in Lost Ark were designed for whales. Akkan, Ivory Tower, Thaemine, Aegir, new Brel to name a few. But also the older ones. Not many people were Valtan HM ready on launch, or Vykas HM.
@@Kalimdor199Menegroth Mixing the 2 types of resets is literally the worst thing you can do. Having to refarm books again? but not just 2 this time you need 5. A Hard reset atleast puts everyone on the same playing field to start. This medium reset bs is literally the worst.
I'm going to hard disagree. I'll put this in both subjective and objective terms as a day 1 continuous player with no pay for power (non g2g / f2p+ /battlepass only .. etc)
Subjectively, from argos to brel I can have 1 or 2 characters hitting average meta requirements day 1 of the raid with 1-2 months after bringing rest of the 6 character roster closer to if not up to the end game (aka 6 main's). With Akkan, 1 or 2 on normal mode with main hm possible with swiping, rest of the roster took 3-4 months to bring up to akkan hm). For ivory tower and definitely thaemine and echina only main can barely hit nm with 2-3 in stuck in ivory tower and the rest in akkan.
To explain my subjective experience let look at the game in the objective sense. As long as you are in a Tier, the material and gold requirement for honing is non linear. This is because not only are all of the materials increasing but the chances are decreasing. You illustration of the different barrier moments are the soft reset that SG during brel and akkan. While they help to not bankrupt f2p players, the reset honing percent still was progressively lowered (roughly from memory: brel post reset had you honing around 10-20%, and akkan quickly down to 5-10%)
Not to mention our lovely elixir and transcendence system. These two fuckers, added not only more gold subtraction into the math above but time (through gated per clear, and also in rolling the damn thing) Of course not only is everything costing more late T3, but raid are harder (more gatekeeping, more jails, less access to power)
Finally let circle back to the point that zeals was trying to make, what did T4 did for all of these pressure points: nothing. T4 is essentially a soft reset in everything but name. You can't effectively play t4 content without full elixir and transcendence because no parties is going to accept "rats" . You are keeping the same gems so the whales aren't losing any relative power. There is nothing bringing the balance back into a level set playing field. I understand all of this is done to not piss off whales but let no pretend it did anything for new or even existing players. NOTHING has changed in the balance of power.
This game will always have gold sinks, it cannot work otherwise, it is a constant progression game.
What T4 has done is make all these systems less cancerous, look at how engravings work, how ark passive is set up, accessories, books , they are all a better version of their T3 coutnerparts.
Zeals' take is completely onesided, he completely ignores the fact that we had the exact same issue in early T3 launch and he is trying to be over dramatic in order to get attention.
If you think that only the whales would be dissappointed if they did a hard reset you are completely clueless, you think all those F2P players who have been grinding hard for 2 years + would be okey with having all of their progress wiped?
A LOT OF things have changed, starting from the fact that they have made a more healthy base for the game with the early T4 systems and that both NM/HM now drop the same materials, your progression is no longer locked behind HM.
None of the late T3 raids / early T4 raids are as hard as Clown or Brel on Western Launch by the way.
This should be the top comment. Very well explained.
@@itisthefear I understand that game need gold sinks, companies needs profits and all that. Up till when I quit recently I would have replied the very same way. Debating whether T4 is p2w or is Brel/Clown harder than Thaemine /echidna is missing the forest for the tree.
What should be address is that LoA have an end game population or mobility problem. T4 ark passive make it easier to achieve a "passable setup" but you can argue that T3's free 5x3 is a mini version of that but do you think it makes any difference for new players to even get into pug akkan nm lobbies? The stress levers SG build in for the those p2w thing will always drive top end players to look for the best of the best.
Even in KR where SG when to their favorite bandaid solution of express events where you are given some level of transcendence and welfare 40 set elixir, I can imagine what will happen in the west. Reddit threads would pop up immediately on how to gatekeep f2p rats, imposters because there is such a demand in skill, top end gear due to the pressure from the p2w loop. And as top end players thin due to burn out, lost interest, drawn to another game, or just IRL, that demand and gatekeeping will be even harder to grasp at every last juicer in existence. Which lead back to the original point, did T4 do anything to address this, and i have to say HECK NO.
@@snowpuppii You are mixing up P2W with gatekeeping and game knowledge.
The game will always have a learning curve, whether p2w is there or not Gatekeeping will always be around.
1. We STILL dont know how AGS will change T4 in our version, Roxx hinted that Aegir might have it's ilvl reduced in the West
2. New players NEED TO PLAY with new players. This will never change. Gatekeeping will always be around.
@@itisthefear new players needing to play with new players is more of a reducing playerbase numbers issue moreso than being a gatekeeping issue. if there were more prog/learning parties like in korea, then there would be far less new player complaints.
as for your prior message's point on korean whales AND veteran players being disappointed if there were a hard reset, you should realize that it is due to korean player (new and veteran) dissatisfaction that they added more legendary cards to merchants and more recently added a free 40 set elixir and level 3 transcendence to the express. there was no player backlash when they gave these old power systems away for free. even veterans have a use for a free up to date character being given away (for example, maybe their main or a gold earner feels awful to play after a change/nerf). it's strictly due to SG's greed that they don't simply give out a 40 set elixir selector (instead of just luck), level 5 trans, and LoS18/24 set (or adding the last few cards of LoS into merchants).
I feel that, hearing from a leviathan player warning not to whale is very important
I agree if someone pays money into the game and progresses as a result, as long as it is guaranteed that I can also progress in the game without paying money. I'm a bit worried though as I was hoping to hear more about future solo raids from SG or AGS. In my opinion, these are necessary so that new players can find their way into the game and old players who have had enough of the toxic group dynamics and the endless search for groups stay in the game. Had to repost the comment with changes because Tyrone was getting on my nerves and I've now blocked him. Hopefully
You need to remember that when we jumped intp T3 going from T2, none of us had any power systems we needed to carry over. Trans and Elixir are MANDATORY systems that you NEED from T3 and are very very expensive with multilayers of RNG.
Just imagine being a new player jumping in, realizing you have to farm old content for weeks, with power systems as brutal and badly explained as elixir and trans, with gatekeeping still being just as bad if not most likely worse. That would be the easiest uninstall of my life.
Either they massively rework these two systems, or the game is over by 2025. I’m willing to put money on this. Those two options are the only realistic scenarios I see. At least for the West, 100%.
its not because you want to quit that the game is over. the world doesn't turn around you
@@clementguitard6653 Who tf said I was quitting or even want to? Dont make smug ass assumptions like this, you just make yourself look stupid af.
imagine when the abrelshud chapter 2 came out in the west , you guys will be fucked in gate 1 forever , cannot aford everything that kr have for dps check in g1
I am just very happy to see normal mode vertical progression is equal to hard mode. The vast majority of players will just do normal until at a comfortable lower level from the new vertical progression system.
That is fine for me and what my biggest gripe was around Theamine, Voldis, and Echidna.
Behemoth, Aegir/Brel fixes that.
Finally a normal person! you actually play the game!
Tbh they should give free powerpasses all the time straight to the middle of T3. With how much work you have to do for one character to push it from story to t4, no new player will even try to touch the game without a express
They always do express
You weren't this far behind when T3 came out because stuff like relic set didn't even exist until they released valtan and by the time they did that the gap had closed a lot then it didn't really change again until Brel but most people were already 1490 by the time brel hit so again they weren't really that far behind. T4 is basically the equivalent of comparing a fresh T3 character to someone with +20 relic gear(1575). There were people doing Aegir basically 100 ilvl over it at launch.... that's kinda nuts.
In terms of dmg being +100lv? Because theyre not even 1760 right now and can’t because ancient +25 +20 ah with esther weapon is 1740
@@nJorge05 i'd assume he's just badly phrasing +100 ilvls over 1640 on aegir launch.
Let the Whales make whale noises... auuuuuuuuu
the dps gap between casuals and giga whales will widen even further in T4. It should've been a hard reset. the game is doomed, pretty sure it won''t last until 2026.
I mean sure but who cares if whales do more dmg than you?
@@Minotking this. whales are still a minority (looking at the 0.5% in the post). Gatekeeping will always be based around what the majority has.
@@Minotking most lost ark players play for MVP/cruel underline. this is why most players have a 5-6 dps roster. the wider the dps gap a veteran has vs whales, the less reason for them to continue investing as much effort into the game.
@@ShoopSurf majority is not exactly the word i would use... gatekeeping is usually based on more than the minimum requirement to clear the raid. outside of situations like the first couple weeks of a raid release and for older raids, gatekeeping is usually based around the top players as they like to play with others at their investment level. you'll see a couple raids now and then full of alts, but these are usually not gatekept at all or are already full of premades who can carry the damage.
I was with you until you said at 11:28 when you said a fresh 1640 can take a break when they have to do elixirs/transcendence still 😅
Zeals take is a little bad on this, but it's also nothing new. Game is P2W. Sidereal weapons exist.
Even in Thaemine a whale party cleared first and people echo'd p2w bc of the sidereal skills lol. Like everyone should know what the game is at this point, esp if they're still playing. Some core elements like that will never change.
With that being said, there have been groups that aren't whaled out of their mind to clear Brel 2.0. Most say G2 is easier than G1. G1 isn't hard bc they aren't high enough ilvl, G1 is hard because for some reason SG thought it'd be smart to not let them have the heat scrolls week 1. Hopefully AGS changes that when we get Brel in December or Jan.
This just seems to be fear mongering if I'm bein honest, because this is NOTHING new. Like we'll have guides from ATK/memo/whoever and it'll make clearing all these raids way easier than Korea had.
lost ark can be played as f2p?
he said " As soon as people get closer closer to Lv10 gems"
so basically go save up gold for 12 weeks don't use it so you buy a "2.5m Gold gem" only one. assuming our version follows Kr pricing.
ofc thats not the case cuz nearly almost everyone RMT a little bit 200k~500k ish here and there . ok there are some loyal players who either use in game shop or just pure f2p , but lets be real.
For people who doesnt know. the difference between p2w through RMT and legal P2W is (10x). what it means if u pay 500$ from the in game shop for gold conversion you get it for only 50$ by RMTing. am not gona lie i did RMT , everyone i know RMTs. all statics i joined RMT. and every single one in my friend list does. cuz no one in his right mind will pay 10x more for the same amount you can just get banned and u still got 9x left to RMT ur self back. same concept for those using DPS check software's. why would they ban them if everyone are uses it. we follow the same mentality everyone does it lets just do it cuz surely they wont punish everyone for it. and everyone who get caught RMTing goes through the 3 warnings policy. where the last warning is the perma ban.
Going back to Lv10 gem statement. as i returned recently and i plan to play full no life with all my 6x 1620 characters but no more RMT i didnt RMT for so so so long time and i plan to stay that way so i can quit easier if i burnout.
Am be real with my self i will never be able to afford Lv10 gem with this new play style of mine unless i make huge sacrifices on my progress like missing out the new raid releases.
However. am the most one who will benefit from that choice the most because i play 6 of the same class ( Bards ) which is honestly luxury.
My current plans for T4:
-Be efficient and farm for the long term with the 6x characters since shards are reset to 0
-Stay cool be late to the new raids watch out for a bit if its a mess just park and sell gold RMT. cuz the hype for T4 isnt that big anyway and we saw alot of drama from KR
-No life the game (Una-Daily-PvP new season) till PoE2 release
-stick with your friends that returned to the game in preparation for T4 so they dont quit early. save runs for them and dont finish ur raids early so your friends can last longer
-stay updated with reddit cuz the drama there is more content than the actual game which is insane repetition.
I love lost ark so much , but i hate its systems and the methods implanted to gain profits its disgusting. but we can adapt to the that. the problem is the in game party finder turned into a survival game and its so toxic. rly sadge , people are so toxic its not their fault at all they are trying to survive in this game with less time spent every week due how the (systems) are designed.
Lastly , pls dont read my comment its just me before going to bed talking to my self. xdd
you dont love the game you are addicted to it and cant quit because you invested too much face the truth already
I think the game will lose players with t4. A lot of people will decide to play throne and liberty instead of lost ark. And i doubt any new or returning player would rather sit in party finder simulator in lost ark instead of playing tnl.
Why would anyone play tnl i would rather just quit
@@Balmung_ i believe this is how they attract players and hook them to the game, then more systems comes up that are more p2w and thats what happened in almost every ncsoft game idk if amazon being included would change anything
@@moru2546 Amazon have said that they work with NCsoft closely and they don't want extreme p2w. Also even though this game is korean MMO, its mostly made for western audience. P2W is kept to a minimum as far as korean mmos are concerned.
Comparing to lost ark acording to a streamer, you can spend 1/150 what you need to spend in lost ark to get max everything. No stupid systems like card sets either (probably the worse design ive ever seen in a game).
Lastly this game already flopped in korea and they are targeting western audience that hates p2w. Im sure they realise that if they increase p2w their game will die. AGS already has experience with that in lost ark.
@@cleaved3453 interesting
@@cleaved3453 gotta remember that combat between TL and LA are drastically different and imo lost ark's combat just feels superior. also since lost ark is really only centered around raiding content, I really don't think they are meant for the same audience.
I never did a raid on release,usuay I go in a few months after and I am ok whit it!
it is only pay to win if you rush t4 and there is no need to. if you built your roster to let's say one main that 1645 right and the reset are 1620. those 1620 become 1640 and they are your farmers pass everything to your main too they are done then go down the list. don't sell your matts less you really need the gold, but you are better on keeping them i been telling people this since day one. same for t4. the raid you are going to be doing are the same ones. KR also gatekeeps harder than us.
Isn't Lost Ark most p2w game out there?
Nah, its Pay to Lose, its how much you need to whale to be able to clear raid with your skill level. #NOFOMO
west will massquit in abrelshud chapter 2 gate 1
Everyone in the comment speculating and acting like their opinion on something is a fact. The bottom line is T4 is extremely P2W and SG knows what they are doing. They know LA won't be around forever so they are milking their cash cow dry. they are trying to extract as much money out of it as possible. This is shows by the type of reset they did. Its a hard/soft reset. You can't really say its one or the other. Its def not a hard reset and its def not a soft reset. Its literally the worst type of reset for anyone that is F2P or casual.
They need to reconsider how they are doing this. These crazy ilvl requirement for Raids is something they need to look at. They need to bring the general population up to the most current content which is HM not NM. This gives them the option to struggle in HM or go clear NM. This also unites the community giving players the option to prog together. This allows newer players to learn the fights with veteran players as it is literally the only time everyone can learn together. Gatekeeping is never as bad at the start of a new raid launch.
Until they fix this the game will just continue to die. Old progression systems like elixirs and trans need to have their gold costs removed. They need to remove a bit of the RNG. Having Every system in the game RNG is exhausting and infuriating. Even the current gold events are RNG based why not give the players gold and and some RNG in it like give 100k a week to everyone and give a chance to win a]dditional As it is currently there are people that have not hit and people that have it 5 times or more.
i hope so
Imagine still playing this game.
imagine renting about it if you aint playing it anymore
@@remzeycs8919 ranting*
Rip bozo
imagine being mentally ill, letting this game live rent free in your head, watch every single video and comment on it without even playing it
@@remzeycs8919 it deserves to be trashed until this garbage is off steam
Great video!
What are you even talking about? T2 to t3 was a hard reset and everyone started at the floor. T4 was a "soft reset" where almost nothing reset.
you mean the opposite… almost everything resets… books, stones, cards, bracelets, accessoires, gems… WTF
@TLDW1986 reset implies it starts over. Of what you listed, only bracelets and accessories is there a true reset. Everything else is just extended to progress further from what you have, but you aren't starting them over.
I hard disagree that p2w is the same as before and t3 and t4 ceilling are the same because in t3 we didn't have as many vertical systems that we do now
Everything will remain p2w until idiots stop spending so much on pixels. Wait until our economy hits great depression levels soon, it'll be a new golden age of gaming
stupid reasoning and very ignorant statement. its when the economy is good that people are doing less predatory systems and healthy creativeness like in the early 2000. because they care less about maximizing revenue. the economy is very bad right now since years ( 2009 krash then covid/global energy crisis in 2020) that's why you got stupid far right politicians everywhere and dangerous marketing. Great Depression = fascism and ww2. Great Depression = predatory economy
If you think you will be able to play any game if the economy hits rock bottom , you are either 1- already rich beyond worry (and own a lot of immovable assets) or 2- delusional
Thank you for this video. Im glad you added some clarifications for people who might have forgotten or were not here when T3 dropped.
Sadly certain streamers lately prefer to create drama instead of building some excitement around T4. What i want to add is that so far all T4 raids provide the same materials for progression both in NM and HM (same way Akkan did back in the day). Even if the raid is "too hard" on week 1, you can just do NM for a couple of weeks and then get back on HM.
I dont understand why we have to build everything around FOMO and frustrate ourselves so much.
Making whales happy is good for EVERYBODY!
a whale doing 100% more dmg thana casual seems crazy, when a esther weapon gives you only 10-20% more dmg and its worth like 20k lol
on PVE game i dont min about p2w , im really glad if a whale carry me , but on PVP game p2w ? you get one shot by whale over and over again ?
After those dramas , zeal did show us that he will do and say anything for more follower/ business/money , so I can't trust anything from him , and things u said just make sense , lets whales spend and you enjoy your game for free and have fun !! (Unless you want look like a whale but not spend as one for reasons ...😂😂)
if you wanna be gigachad Just DoWork bruh XD
You're absolutely delusional and have Zeals rent free. He cut 40mins of him talking on stream about how t4 is in kr not some diabolical plan, he's right the game is bleeding players in all regions.
another video another rant, just quit, noone force u to play this trash game.