Is the NEW 2023 Subaru Ascent a better SUV than a Kia Telluride?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The Ascent is the largest Subaru vehicle currently sold. For 2023 there are some major updates to compete better against the Hyundai Palisade, Mazda CX-9, Nissan Pathfinder, Ford Explorer, Honda Pilot, Kia Palisade. On the outside you will find new bodywork, lighting, and wheels. On the inside you will be greeted by a 11.6in infotainment system. Under the hood is a 2.4L turbocharged flat-4 that is mated to a CVT. Is the NEW 2023 Subaru Ascent a better SUV than a Kia Telluride?
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Purchased a 23' Ascent Limited exactly like Joe's here (except with the Black Leather Interior) and this Review had very much to do with it, thanks Joe & Lori! New Subie Owners after owning 4Runner, Tahoe, Acadia & Durango with Ascent, so far being one of the best! Great Value and experience @ Subie Dealership, put arrogant Toyota Dealerships with their overpriced Highlanders to shame! Love the fact too we're not driving the same SUV everyone else on the Road is! Thanks again Guys, subscribing to find best next Subie(?) for when our son's old enough to drive here soon!
Nice choice! The 2023 update made the Ascent extremely competitive and a great value.
I chose the Ascent over the Telluride because comparing apples to apples you get more for your money. Dealers are still charging above MSRP or adding a bunch of add-ons (e.g., paint protector, alarms, etc.) to the Tellurides. Folks while you're out there shopping please remember these new vehicles are depreciating assets. Paying at MSRP or above is not worth it for any brand. There are deals out there especially now that the chip shortage has been resolved. Stay away from Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, and Kia because these vehicles are in high demand, so dealerships are less likely to budge on the MSRP. Go with a less popular brand like Mazda or Subaru because you're likely to get a better deal.
I can definitely can confirm this. I have a 2021 Honda Accord 2.0T and felt ripped off afterwards withe pricing. Especially how long they make you wait to do paperwork etc and still have the audacity to sell you more packages for your car.
It was my first time leasing a car from a dealership but I learned my lesson.
I should have gone with a 2021 Subaru WRX instead, cheaper, lower monthly payments, smaller down payment. Still great amount of room, full coverage insurance cost, same gas mileage. I can go on.
Now as my lease is up in a year from now, I'm looking into the Ascent. Looking forward to it
Bro have you compared the tech on those brands compare to the Subaru??The Subaru is miles behind with technology and interface. No lie it’s like Toyota and Hyundai are Playstation 5 and the Subaru is Sega Genesis. It’s kind of sad at this point.
@@liamcarp7113. I do not disagree with you but have you compared the IIHS crash test scores? Subarus, imo, aren’t the most attractive vehicles but are extremely practical and reliable and that’s why I’ve bought them for years.
@@terence44272nd safety vehicle in the world Subaru. Volvo is number one
Once you go Accent, There's no substitute!!! I have a 2023 Touring Accent, Our first trip was Solvang it drove beautiful..Go Accent and you'll stand out!!! 👍
No one does it better than you, Joe. Always a pleasure to watch your videos.
Thanks for being so supportive!
Him and redline reviews are the best in the biz!
@wantapgt Joe, Sofyan, and Alex have the best personalities, IMO.
I really like your excellent evaluation of Subaru products. Your videos work well for owners (I'm on my sixth Subaru) and potential Subaru buyers. I do want to make a comment (you can yell at me if you want) ... I've presented hundreds of planetarium shows and in almost everyone I tell the story relationship of Pleiades and the Subaru emblem as I bring up the images on the dome (and they can look at my car). Anyway, Pleiades (Subaru) is an open star cluster in the constellation Taurus.
It's 2023, and all limited trims need to come with led exterior & interior lights
You are so very right about that!
Car companies are a joke. Even releasing the same car every year is ridiculous
The choice is easy. The Telluride is leading this sector of vehicles. All others are only trying to follow. Telluride all the way!!!
If you can track one down for sure!
Interesting opinion there 🤔
I just saw one of these at the gas station. Didn't even recognize this model as I never heard of it.
How people are going to choose this over thr Telluride? I do not think so.
Alot of Tellurides still have long wait times, and dealerships are still marking them up, so it undercuts Kia's value position.
Variety is the spice of life!
So very true Floyd!
Anything with a CVT is automatically bottom of my shopping list until proven otherwise.
actually people like you won't be able to buy anything from subaru, people like you just look at the looks, buy another car and be happy with it, because your vision only suits it
I don't like the edges on the hood, they should turn down rather than end with the thin edge. Wheels are great. I like the chrome rather than aluminum all around the car. Overall I like the Ascent. Turbo is nice. I drove a Porsche for a while.
0:40 Subaru Eyesight will not work well during snow storms and some rain storms.
I don't think anything will work well in that situation.
We'd like to see it compared to the new 23 Honda Pilot. Please! is that comparison or the full review and test drive of the new Pilot coming? thanks..
CVT and a turbo on a boxer engine are both deal killers. These two all but guarantee that these cars won’t last.
If this suv was quiet n less road noise, it’s one of the best.
You have awesome energy. And a great channel. I watch all your videos.
OMG, I thought the exact same thing before he said it... Droids from Star Wars! LOL
The Subaru lobster claw tail lights on the Subaru Ascent and the Subaru Forester it also has the lobster claw tail lights. And also it be better if Subaru’s back up camera screen so that it would take up the whole screen instead of taking half of the screen.
I love Subaru but this is a NO for me. I just don't feel I'm getting much for the money.
Especially compared to the competition.
Great car but I'll wait for a hybrid version to upgrade. I'm getting realistically 17mpg combined. As the main family hauler car this hurt my pocket a bit.
Subaru and Kia products is what I like both brands are great there are two things #1 Telluride and Palisade has better warranty. #2 Ascent has Top 10 safety pick these vehicles are more safer than Kia if getting in a crash. The Ascent has good design like how like it's shape and interior is perfectly fine one about Subaru and Kia they use CVTS on other hand Telluride has automatic transmission the Ascent looks bit bigger than the Telluride one thing when it comes to warranty the Telluride has much better warranty ... safety the Ascent will take a hard hit in a collision more than the Telluride. I really like Subaru but might go with Telluride it seems more fun has much better warranty if something breaks though not a type of man driving a Subaru see myself in a Telluride though always did like Subaru's they always were good cars when Kia was introduced don't think they weren't as good in the early days now they got so much better.
The pallidade and telluride are also very safe, they are the same iihs safety pci mad the ascent.
Kia uses CVTs on compact and subcompact cars and low end crossovers.
good luck getting a Telluride and if you do you'll be paying thousands over MSRP. I can get a new subaru through their VIP program for like invoice cost
Great video! How do you turnoff the auto stop/start feature?
Our 2023 Ascent premium doesn't have auto start/ stop, thankfully.
CVT's should only be paired with 6's.... and 4 cyclinders with Turbo.... those engines are probably going to wear out faster than a 6.
I expected a bit more of a comparison as you talk to One feature on the Subaru versus to Telluride. At the end you didn't give us your opinion on which one is the better car.
Just bought ascent touring over the weekend. Love it. I also owns Forrester. They are definitely keepers! Very happy with Subaru service and its reliability.
CVT Transmissions are really, really great! For bicycles.
I think that Subaru models have been getting uglier in recent years in the front. This is especially true with the new Outback, Legacy, and WRX. Not to mention, there's an overuse of plastic on the exterior. I get that Subaru has a history in rally racing, but most people aren't going to take their car off-road. Even if you have a Wilderness model, you're likely not going to take it off the pavement. The technology in new Subaru vehicles is also subpar in my opinion. Subaru would likely be at the bottom of my list if I was searching for a NEW car from a Japanese automaker, which is a shame really.
Things have definitely changed with Subaru!
Actually they have better technology especially the eyesight camera and adaptive cruise control...the cladding actually protects the paint on the outback
@@truckercowboyed2638 I get that the cladding protects stuff, but the way they styled it just doesn't look good imo.
@@fenrirslip You're right! There's no justifying that styling! At least the Telluride has a Range Rover stance. I don't even see Millenials and Gen Z drivers flocking to this generic looking Ascent.
😂😂😂 lol need one for a lot of kids and a whole lot of twinkies lol. I might catch diabetes. Love the review, I have the 21. If only they up the HP and mad some modifications to the engine just like the new Nissan pathfinder.
I am liking the new Pathfinder as well.
Agree with you CVT is the biggest weak link of Subaru brand, and its not reliable in the case of ascent since the introduction of this vehicle. 50-60k tranny going out, so many issues with their tranny.
Flat back is better . Your view on the car is good. But it all depends on what the person like . Bottom line . Would have been nice if they had a 6cly. Big suv
Boston cream donuts earned you a sub! Haha!
A Subaru? I never clicked so fast
Thanks for letting me bring it to you!
I was waiting for the Ascent Joe and I really like it. I think the Touring trim level might have a couple of more options. as for the old style bulbs in the turn signals I would probably swap them out with LED bulbs as I did with my 2015 ForesterXT Touring.
That's a good idea. Interior is a little dark.LED would help. Might ck into it.
Good idea. Interior a little dark. Might ck into it.
The Touring has the camera in the rear view and ventilating front seats. Great looking. Just wish the dash was digital like the Pallisade
Just a heads up, the lamp assembly is typically designed specifically for the OEM bulb. You're not usually supposed to switch to a whole new light bulb. There's no electrical risk, and it will light up, but the refraction technology in the lamp cover won't work properly and it won't appear as bright as it should to other drivers. The LED bulbs even warn about such things on the package. Just FYI.
Absolutely terrible gas mileage. Got 260 miles out of a full tank. Transmission is constantly trying to find a gear. Imo cvt and turbos do not mix. Long term, the front brakes warp rather quickly as well. Other than that they are great vehicles with a lot to offer for the price....
Thank you for the video. Am looking for a new SUV.
My Cheeroke found the perfect high-interest era to ask for a divorce. SMH
CVT - NO THANK YOU.
Hi, I just bought a Subaru Ascent and really love it . I have to correct you on the A/C there’s two ways to change temperature not on the big screen but you missed the red and green arrows to adjust the temperature 👍
Currently shopping for our next family hauler. It's between 2023 Subaru Ascent and 2023 Honda Pilot. Subaru is my pick. Just waiting on the wife to choose. Haha!
I’d also look into the upcoming Toyota Grand Highlander and current Sienna depending how big your family is.
Subaru is ALWAYS better than Kia…
That’s a matter of opinion
Why is the tech in this shitbox still stuck in 2005?!? Just shameful Subaru.
@@liamcarp7113 Honda is not much better. All of the newer tech goes to Acura and is still behind everyone else.
Subaru needs to take some notes from Kia. Their cars are so boring and all look the same.
That is a very good point!
I do prefer the new front end vs. the previous. It wasn't terrible, but this gives it a more aggressive look and I like it.
Dropping a like and a comment for the algorithm.
You are the man David! I really appreciate you having my back!
You are trying very hard to make this Subbie sound like decent choice 😉
Too many cheesy design choices , cheesy and rough out dated is not a synonym of touch .
This should cost 35K at the most to make any sense and recompensate for cheesy CVT , torque less engine and gauges like in 2008 .
Than swooshy ride and not confidence inspiring handling in comparison to the best is just a big fat NO from me...
I was thinking right around $37k
@@RaitisRides why don't they offer CVT credit of 4Kusd on the sticker 😜 so maybe one day they will finally use Toyotas 8speed if they can't design any better tranny...
Nissan's JATCO has been poor transmission choice for years and since they fell in love with savings not passed onto customer and use of CVT JATCO is a disaster of an tranny OEM.
Been watching for a while and i am very impressed with how professional your team is, thank you for your hard work,i remember i had my other guys that i follow and now you are one of the ones i try to watch every video.
Keep up the great work.
Many blessings to you and your family and your team in 2023!!!!
Wow Byron! That is really awesome! Thank you for letting me share my car passion with you!
Hi Joe ... since my wife has a Sub Forester Sport I better keep my wonky comments to myself ...back in the day (1976) I was deciding between the Civic CVCC 5-Speed and the Forest Green Sub AWD Wagon ,.. and recall the Sub being about $500+ more than the Civic ... went with the Civic ...but the Sub AWD was certainly iconic back in those days ... can't go wrong with a Sub they make quality product ... maybe not the most exciting though ... Thanks Keith
You are spot on the money Keith.
I purchased a 2022 Subaru Ascent Onyx edition this past summer. I went with the Onyx because I have small kids and man the interior is holding up nicely. My daughter spilled water and coffee on our first trip into Yosemite National park in the second row. Thankfully standard all season mats are included. I didn’t want any leather in the car since I knew that having little ones it was going to get dirty.
I’m happy with my Subaru.
This continues to stay on my list of potential vehicle choices when I eventually upgrade from my 2012 4Runner. Stop making me decision so hard 😂🤣 all of these videos make me go back and forth a lot
Sit in all of them. Might seem obvious but I was back and forth for months then I drove each option in this class and realized the choice was easy.
@@joker927 what did you go with
@@Gr8Nuzz I bought a Telluride but that's not my point. I spent so much time comparing paper and then when I drove each it was quickly clear which one met my preferences.
@@joker927 Exactly. For us it was the Traverse. Don't read too much into what "reviewers" obsessed with caressing soft dashboards think. Think for yourself. No vehicle is perfect, they all have their pros and cons.
Subaru SUVs never look like SUVs to me. They look like raised up station wagon’s. They never have the real SUV look.
Not to sure about thais one.
I will consider this one if it had traditional automatic not a cvt.
Pass !!!
Great review
I am so glad that I can bring it to you Byron!
Exactly. I don't want any vehicle with a CVT. Especially not a big heavy 3 row with a CVT. It's just a major problem waiting to happen.
What is a CVT?
Please stop complaining and nagging about light bulbs. Often, the "old fashioned" (and proven) stuff works, and is easy and cheap to replace or repair.
My 84 y/o grandpa drives one with ventilated seats.
My favorite three row, as well as it seems most is the palisade over the grand Cherokee L
Very cool Ben!
Subbie. Topgun #1. 😎
I am so glad that you approve!
It's fun too!!!
Looking at this Subaru Ascent is like watching paint dry! Uninspiring and lacks personality. Telluride/Palisade is bringing their A-game, giving us cutting edge technology and features. Palisade is giving Genesis/almost Mercedes vibes, while the Telluride is definitely giving Range Rover..They both give you an experience with a touch of ambience. The Ascent will give you an experience that you will wish that it was over! I wouldn't give this Ascent a second look at mall parking lots!..2016 called..They want their interior back!!..It's a whole ZONK, Joe!! Along with the CVT!!
👎🏾🗑
It will be interesting to see what Subaru does for a total redesign.
@@RaitisRides I won't hold my breath! I mean, have you seen their palets of cars over the years? Outdated as my Grandmother's bathroom wallpaper.
Come on. Mercedes is a joke. Range Rover is just a dressed up Ford Exploder. Ford just sold it back to the British because they couldn't deal with 2 Exploders. (I used to work for Ford)
@@teresahunt7649 I'm just using those vehicles as an example for luxury content. Don't care about your life story, Teresa.
Great review as always ! Subaru's reliability and quality are more important than Kia's additional features. On the plus side I like the look and functionality of the seats, integrated info system (with the exception of the silver framing ) and the fact this is no electromobile (thankfully). To live with a vehicle long term, styling is important to me. Most styling departments found a new fetish in the front corners. These here are somewhat reminiscent of a mutilated hammerhead shark (cancer maybe ?). 😃 The last few years front end could be called dead end (styling). I wish designers went back to evolution like Porsche does instead of trying to outdo each other.
Subaru came out 2 spots above Kia with Acura in between. I wouldn’t say that’s a huge win or gap.
@@Michael-ur5qb That is a surprisingly small difference. My choice would be Acura RDX, I have great experience with Acura. It seams a lot of people don't understand the long term liability they get into.
I don’t think so, CVT is killing Subaru.
@@kathywong3567 Yet no one that owns one is actually complaining. The world would be stuck with biplanes if old people still ran this world.
@@kathywong3567 The CVT in the Ascent was an issue in 2019, and 2020. They resolved the issue starting in 2021. The 2022 (and now 2023) has been pretty reliable.
my family just got a 2021 subaru ascent and it’s really nice it surprisingly has more features than this new one which i’m very surprised by
this isn’t the top trim
@@summrsexclaimed who cares
I like the Subaru Ascent even though it doesn't have a V6 engine, full LED's a functional corner vents I feel like those things would've been a better addition.
@@user-jy5fu3og1b Oh, but it doesn't have a 9 speed automatic transmission.
@@user-jy5fu3og1b Yeah it doesn't have all LED's.
@@user-jy5fu3og1b never but the old outbacks did have 6 cylinders tho
@D B A collaboration with Toyota would be a good thing for an 8-speed auto.
One is a Subaru, long known for safety, reliability and resale value. The other is a Kia. Any more questions?
Short answer...no
What is the long answer?
@@RaitisRides if Subaru wants to compete and grab some market share it needs to offer more features for the price point. For one the gauge cluster looks like it's from 2004 lol
@@Dellonidas Thanks for entertaining my question,. You are spot on the money and I totally agree with you!
@@Dellonidas If the other gives me this car, I'll sell it to you for 1 cent because it's cheap and worth it, like Koreans: dirty and copycat
I have a 2022 ascent which i love.
just wish subaru had done two things ; 1) made a totally redesigned new boxer six cylinder engine in natural and turbocharged versions producing 280 and 350 hp .
2) kept a traditional transmission instead of the CVT still trying to get used to it.
Subaru doesn’t have the resources to do those things. Considering that Subaru is and has been a regionally successful car company, they just don’t have the sales figures to design something that requires a massive investment. Subaru invested half of a billion dollars on Jatco cvt’s back in 2003. I don’t see them ditching the cvt’s anytime soon.
That has to be the most horrible CVT I have ever heard or move. Not a grear simulation in the world. Wow. I couldn't bare hearing that loud drone everyday
Why is the tech in this shitbox still stuck in 2005?!? Just shameful Subaru.
I hope they come up with wilderness edition?!!?😢
What the heck NO ventilated seats for nearly a $50,000 dollar vehicle??? That’s a disgrace.
I like Subaru 👍 brand. This is my next vehicle. You are very detailed 👌 But can you talk about the steel frame and the steel bars in the door panels..I think that selling point can boost up the reliability of the safety if you were ever T Boned in this car. This car has saved many lives. That is why I am going to buy this vehicle 😍❤💯Good job Subaru 👏
My 2021 got 5 star safety. Not sure what the new one is.
Reliability and safety are two massively different things. Subaru has always been a below-average vehicle for reliability. Quirky, unreliable cvt, engines that consume oil, thin and cheap windshield, valve guide leaks, faulty fuel pumps. The list goes on and on. The problem? Kia isn’t any better! 😂
I'm a Subaru owner and I like the black over the wheels that's what make it a Subaru that's there signature with the black all the way around the bottom it makes it the off-road protection. All their cars have that black on all their suvs vehicles
subarus are getting really ugly... subaru really needs to hire better design team
The headlights looks luxuriously fancy. 20" wheels and Turbocharger too? Tempting to trade in my 2019 Ascent.
We are considering trading my 2019 Forester for a 2023 Ascent now that we have a 3 year old and a 6 month old. When we go on trips, our Forester is just too small even with a topper.
CVT's just need to go away all together! Or offer the same model without a CVT!
Tell me about it. The way they drive is terrible.
You wearing pants? Must be cold lol
It is chilly for FL.
My brother bought the 2022 Subaru Impreza sedan last year and I've been loving Subaru ever since. I was skeptical about the CVT, but I actually grew to like it. It gives enough power when going uphill even at freeway speeds. It won't win any races but I feel confident passing cars on the freeway and easily gets up to speed. Best part is that it actually feels kind of like an auto. I'm hoping the CVT's in the newer Subaru's are only getting better.
Thanks for sharing from your personal experience Andy!
Not sure why people keep complaining about CVT, I got my Crosstrek done well so far, used to hit 160km/h on the highway and strongly believe it could go beyond that if I wanted. Off road is awesome and don’t forget about snow handling.
@Jean Toronto Raptors I love the tech. I went to the snow and once the temperature went below freezing, the computers immediately adapted for potentially icy roads. Kept me at low revs even if I tried to accelerate hard.
@@helloworld12494 as a car enthusiast, a cvt just doesn't push like your v4, inline, etc, good for economy cars tho
The 2022+ subaru cvt has come a long way, even to say (Leading) I'm the industry. Test drive one.
No comparison! The Telluride is way better just from a V6 engine standpoint, way nicer materials and no cvt! Subarus start to fall apart big time at 100k miles to 200k miles I will never buy another turbo Subaru again. $6k + every 100k miles making it the most expensive car to maintain I’ve owned.
They only have one factory in indiana my new idea open another plant Mississippi
The Kia Telluride is still king of the affordable 3-row SUVs. The Subaru Ascent is still average in comparison to its rivals.
This seems to be the case!
Telluride is better.
I am glad that you like this one.
Interesting opinion there buddy 🤔
@@stevenyia2778 Well, he asked if it was better.
As weird as it sounds I like the big and bulky look of this suv. I feel like cars with that suv look are missing aside from the Tahoe and expedition.
YES! I really like my Ascent but miss the ride of my Tahoe. Didn't have to worry about high curbs or big bumps in the road. Not complaining just the big thing I miss. Guess I miss the truck feel.
Don't you miss Tahoe price tag and MPG ?
@@teresahunt7649
the lower trims are great valuue for customers who need AWD
I'll take the kia over this any day, this is for your older adult with a family who really doesn't care much about cars tbh that's just the audience
I would buy it Built in Lafayette, Indiana Give it a Huge Advantage over both Kia and Hyundai looks Very Aggressive too 😎
I am glad that you like this one Derrick or I should say Big Papi!
@@RaitisRides Kia is built in Georgia...so...
Love my 2020 Ascent Limited! Wouldn’t mind some of the 2023 upgrades, but mine is paid for 😅
Any problems yet ?
@@JesusHernandez-gh7wl Nothing crazy. Only thing was new pads and turned rotors at 16k miles, but there was a TSB for it. No cost to me. Very happy after 2.5 yrs and 32k miles.
Wow, I cannot believe how bad the interior looks. This Ascent doesn’t even come close to the Telluride or Pallisade.
Yeah there is a ton to be desired.
Own at 2019 Ascent with 60k miles. Outstanding performance, quiet and great build quality. I plan to drive it for at least 250k, no problem. The Ascent is just so comfortable and quiet and you get a lot of value in the car. Two months ago, I had a 2023 Ascent loaner and I was floored at the progression of comfort and drive. The transmission was much smoother, very responsive, the drive was very comfortable. I find it amazing how things progress throughout the years. The maintenance of the Ascent is extremely reasonable. Mainly, just oil and filter changes! My largest expense did not occur until 60k miles and that was around $740. I'm good to go for another 30k miles before I spend any other funds on maintenance. The fit and finish of the Subaru product is exceptional. No cheesy plastic on the doors or dash. I would highly recommend you have a look at the Subaru line.
Subarus will take you well past 250k miles with just regular maintenance. My 2014 outback is still going strong with just tire changes x2 and battery changes x2 and one windshield replacement, and regular maintenance - oil, filters.
740 for maintenance at 60k miles? I guess I’ll stop drinking for a week
@@hwoarang2001😂lol
I wouldn't even consider a Hyundai/Kia when looking at a Subaru. Whole different breed of cat. How many 20 year old Subarus do you see in snowy Utah? How many 20 year old Hyundai's do you see there? And Hyundai probably outsells Subaru by 10:1.
Hint: More Subies.😆
Let’s talk Toyota Sequoia, Honda Pilot and Lexus LX/GX
The new breeds of Kia and Hyundai are excellent in sense of features and options standard beats spending 80-100k for luxury equivalent that will last less or same amount of time…
Not everyone wants to own a car for 20 years. Live a little, you only live once. Same reason people buy Mercedes, Ranger Rovers etc… No want to drive boring cars to their graves
That's not a good argument. 20 years ago if you had said "how many 20 year old Subarus etc around do you see?" Brands get better. The Japanese were really looked down upon until they started really producing reliable, competitive cars like the LS400, NSX, etc. Same for the Koreans. They are going through what the Japanese went through in the 70s and 80s. People wouldnt be caught dead in a Japanese car. Hence why my parents had a Ford Tempo with a blue interior. Honestly, the Japanese quality has gone down over the last handful of years. They are living off of their long built brand of quality.
And when was the last time you saw a Tribeca? A Baja? They are few and far between. You see quite a few old WRXs and the occasional old Forester and Legacy. People take care of the WRXs because they consider them sports cars. The metal on a Subaru in the past was like a tin can, too. It's like they wanted the trees in a rally stage to be able to peal it off easily so the tree isn't damaged.
Apples to oranges comment. Kia didn’t have the appeal 20 years ago. Subaru has had regional success in parts of the country but is virtually unseen in many other area. For example, you can drive for 3-4 hours in Texas and count Subaru’s on one hand.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 go to china, and it will take you 2 months to find a bad quality hyundai
I'm glad it doesn't have digital gauges. I hate screens instead of actual gauges.
I always liked Subaru's body design. They're visually appealing. All wheel drive is great. But I can't stand the fact that most of their vehicles have a CVT transmission. Could've been a 2.5 liter engine rather than a 2.4. At least the interior looks good. Subaru knows how to make a nice interior. Very safe vehicles too.
In 2022 Telluride sold 100,000 and asent 64,000. In both design and performance, the Telluride is the winner. Wouldn't Kia guarantee 10 years because they are confident in quality? Things change!
I dislike Subaru but I have to disagree with you. Kia spent over 1 billion dollars on warranty repairs. Good warranty? Yes. Reliable products? Meh.
Ok, how about reliability?
The dashboard looks so cheap !!!!only Palisade is comparable to the telluride .
I just wish is was built in Japan , my Crosstrek was made in Japan and the Forester is still made in Japan. Some of the Subarus r made in Indiana and there not as good as the ones made in Japan
The CVT is awesome my mom had a white 2020 Subaru Outback XT Onyx Edition. And with this engine and transmission. It was nice and smooth. We had it from September of 2019 to July of 2022. We sold it and now my mom drives a 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe.
I have a 22 Santa Fe Calligraphy and love it.
The next gen Santa Fe is going to be boxy and probably be a copy of the Defender from LR.
I appreciate you sharing that experience!
@@maga6319 I see that on paper, I guess we will just to have to see the finished product. Maybe I will be happy that I have a 22.
I got the 2024 Onyx edition in grey/black over a week ago. I made the decision after testing an Atlas, Highlander, Telluride and CX90 (too pricey). You get best bang for the buck with the Subaru with top safety ratings which is big for me, having two kids. My previous car was a CX-9
Is it still louder than the Outback? Outback is quieter year after year it's one of the 10 quietest cars by US News now.
I had a 2020 Outback as a rental in Denver and if that POS is considered quiet then US News must be on drugs.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 my experience is with xt limited That I own. Can’t say the same about lower trims. Higher trims limited and touring only have acoustic glasses front and windshields. Better insulation. Just checked us news their updated list has outback again… now 15 quietest car list. The noise level needs to be measured when cruising at 90mph in Texas for 5 hrs at a time not while acceleration the underpowered base 4. Outback limit cruise setting at 90.
There's so much potential for the Ascent and other Subaru's if they'd move away from the CVT. I drive a 2021 Forester Sport, and as much as I love most things about it, the CVT drives me nuts. But, I'm digging the updated front facia on the '23 models
Well maybe that's because you don't understand how to drive the cvt you can't just mash the gas you have to ease into it for smooth engagement.
@Trucker Cowboy Ed I'm fully aware of how to drive a CVT, seeing as I've been driving it for 2 years. I'd still prefer a true automatic, and I wish Subaru would go that route.
@@truckercowboyed2638 having to "understand" how to drive a CVT is a big L in my book. Every CVT I've driven was garbage regardless of manufacturer. Either a manual or a standard auto is better than a CVT any day of the week, and nothing performance oriented should ever have a CVT. The fact that they put it in the WRX is just plain stupid. I love my '05 WRX, but now that they've trash-canned the STi and put CVTs in everything, I'll probably never own another new Subaru.
Love your comments but let's be real. What third row seat, in any suv, was meant to accommodate an adult?
The jokes are getting a little old
Neither have enough power.
How much power do you need?
@@RaitisRides 400 like the explorer ST😊. Well in our case it’s 480 now. Wife and the kids are zoomin!
I would say this 2022 Santa Fe calligraphy looks better and interior is better as well and it does not have a cvt how about that ? And stop compering this to telluride and palisade is not even close
your 5 cent santafe car is only worth carrying for subaru xv, don't compare it with this car, don't be so short
@@huyentran-qe4pu listen man who buys Subarus nobody stop it no body cares about subs and of course they shouldn't compare . Hyundai is now days better then sub so pls stop it
@@haki4t Korean cars have bad chassis, and it degrades over time, the interior may be beautiful but it is all Chinese imported goods and sells cheap, only selling cheap will sell, Korean cars still lose Chinese cars, don't compare to subaru, because Korean cars are only worth compared to Chinese cars
if you go to enough subaru lexus mec, porche car brands like me you will understand, you will understand the value of subaru cars when you have an accident, don't stupidly compare cheap korean cars with short brains of koreans come here, maybe you don't like subaru please disappear
I like the refresh except the headlight looks like Lexus still like my 2022 Ascent headlight everything else good job Subaru.
Yeah I can totally see where you came from with that comment!
Hey Joe, how about you and Lori come visit Japan and check out the next Tokyo Auto Salon. It would be nice to have you guys visit especially now that you got the new Civic Type R because there are so many companies here specializing in upgrade parts for Type R.
The flagship Accent is the Touring equipped with ventilated front seats and 120-volt A/C which was missing on the center console of the second-row seats of the Limited trim.
I have 120 on my Ascent. 2nd & back area.
I'm Just Glad It's Not an Electric Car 💯🤣