Well done, this is a really interesting video. In around 15 minutes you discover a great deal about how a piano is built and get a real sense of the essential difference between craft-based instrument makers like Cavendish and the big volume manufacturers.
RichardKBlundel thanks for your comments. We were very impressed with this short film made by ITV4. Unlike so much telly it is very sensibly edited and doesn’t oversimplify.
Well done Guys, a real Piano made of real wood with real people making it. Agraffes all the way? solid wood cabinet? solid oak even!!!! Makes me think of Danemann school pianos. You do not take shortcuts. Most sincere congratulations from a piano tuner annoyed with modern pianos
I loved what he said about the practice pedal - When you dont want to be judged! Thats exactly how I feel it is for. Pianos are loud and mine gets extremely loud and disturbing], even for me, when I am trying to learn a new piece. Wonderful film
Yes, they are chordophones as strings under tension produce the musical sounds. Pianos & clavichords strike the strings, harpsichords pluck the strings and wheel harps & viola organistas bow the strings. Keyed instruments go back over 2200 years (Alexandria, 250 BC).
@@fnersch3367 I think I knew that date... Because I remember hearing about peasants working the fields hearing church organ music and the organs being as big as the buildings and only God could produce that powerful sound leading villains that use organs to be more menacing.
So, Nothing Happens Between making the Sound Board and Stringing???? It Wouldn't be a Piano Without That Happening! It Used to be called Marking Off when I Worked on Pianos But, Maybe, They've Magically done away with That Process ....Wonders of the Modern World!!
Hi John, Interesting that you worked marking off. We do it too of course, but it's not considered very intersting telly! We do have videos of marking off, planing the bridge, inserting bridge pins etc. on our youtube channel. If they recorded every process it would be a very long programme !
I came here hoping that I could build a piano at home, but I did not realize that they take a massive custom cast iron piece like that.. No wonder they're so expensive.. If it could be done with just the wood, screws, and strings, then it may be possible (also much lighter). I suppose the wood couldn't handle the tension of the strings though..
I wonder though, does that iron contribute to the tone or does it just serve as a support for the wire tension. If you're going to experiment, perhaps some modern materials could handle the strain with far less weight, say a fiberglass resin with strength members...
@Synaptic Axon Good thinking. Or like, anything but cast iron.. even steel is lighter. I was also wondering if the cast iron contributed to the sound. Could be the density of the metal resonates in a unique manner. Upon running a few searches, apparently I stand corrected.. steel is actually a denser/stronger metal than cast iron; hence why cast iron products are typically thicker (and therefore heavier). www.quora.com/Why-is-cast-iron-so-much-heavier-than-steel There's a list on that page which details the densities of different metals. Looks like as far as metals go, titanium would be the next step towards making it lighter(although that obviously wouldn't solve the 'make it at home' issue). Not sure exactly how you intend on using fiberglass resin, or what exactly you mean by 'strength members'. Like, to use the resin to coat a wooden replacement for the metal, thereby strengthening it? Still not sure how to picture the 'strength members' though.
@@sizlax You will note that the cast iron is mounted against the wooden sound board. The vibrations are produced in the cast iron frame and then transferred to the wooden sound board. Note the sound formed when the young lady "hammered" the tuning peg. The density of the metal will change the transfer efficiency of the strings to the sound board. So while steel, or aluminum could be used but the piano will not sound the same. It is disappointing that the piano is so complex. Perhaps you could attempt something simpler, like a harpsicord or pianoforte.
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Well done, this is a really interesting video. In around 15 minutes you discover a great deal about how a piano is built and get a real sense of the essential difference between craft-based instrument makers like Cavendish and the big volume manufacturers.
RichardKBlundel thanks for your comments. We were very impressed with this short film made by ITV4. Unlike so much telly it is very sensibly edited and doesn’t oversimplify.
Thank you for the video. Kudos for building pianos in-house in the UK.
Well done Guys, a real Piano made of real wood with real people making it. Agraffes all the way? solid wood cabinet? solid oak even!!!! Makes me think of Danemann school pianos. You do not take shortcuts.
Most sincere congratulations from a piano tuner annoyed with modern pianos
Great to see you doing well. That was really informative :)
Very impressive Adam 👍
Wow think ill pay a visit very soon!
I loved what he said about the practice pedal - When you dont want to be judged! Thats exactly how I feel it is for. Pianos are loud and mine gets extremely loud and disturbing], even for me, when I am trying to learn a new piece. Wonderful film
Whoa, that's a $15000 upright! :)
So are pianos the best instrument ?
Yes, without a doubt. I've played dozens of instruments (modern and ancient) over the last 6 decades and find the piano can't be beat.
this is subject to opinion
Thanks
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trying to find the music to the piece of music 3 min into this?
You heard it here, folks. The guys that make pianos for a living have classified them as Chordophones.
Yes, they are chordophones as strings under tension produce the musical sounds. Pianos & clavichords strike the strings, harpsichords pluck the strings and wheel harps & viola organistas bow the strings. Keyed instruments go back over 2200 years (Alexandria, 250 BC).
@@fnersch3367 I think I knew that date... Because I remember hearing about peasants working the fields hearing church organ music and the organs being as big as the buildings and only God could produce that powerful sound leading villains that use organs to be more menacing.
So, Nothing Happens Between making the Sound Board and Stringing???? It Wouldn't be a Piano Without That Happening! It Used to be called Marking Off when I Worked on Pianos But, Maybe, They've Magically done away with That Process ....Wonders of the Modern World!!
Hi John, Interesting that you worked marking off. We do it too of course, but it's not considered very intersting telly! We do have videos of marking off, planing the bridge, inserting bridge pins etc. on our youtube channel. If they recorded every process it would be a very long programme !
@7:45
piano as a really nice piece of furniture 😅
Piano
Pianoforte
I came here hoping that I could build a piano at home, but I did not realize that they take a massive custom cast iron piece like that.. No wonder they're so expensive.. If it could be done with just the wood, screws, and strings, then it may be possible (also much lighter). I suppose the wood couldn't handle the tension of the strings though..
I wonder though, does that iron contribute to the tone or does it just serve as a support for the wire tension. If you're going to experiment, perhaps some modern materials could handle the strain with far less weight, say a fiberglass resin with strength members...
@Synaptic Axon Good thinking. Or like, anything but cast iron.. even steel is lighter. I was also wondering if the cast iron contributed to the sound. Could be the density of the metal resonates in a unique manner.
Upon running a few searches, apparently I stand corrected.. steel is actually a denser/stronger metal than cast iron; hence why cast iron products are typically thicker (and therefore heavier).
www.quora.com/Why-is-cast-iron-so-much-heavier-than-steel
There's a list on that page which details the densities of different metals. Looks like as far as metals go, titanium would be the next step towards making it lighter(although that obviously wouldn't solve the 'make it at home' issue).
Not sure exactly how you intend on using fiberglass resin, or what exactly you mean by 'strength members'. Like, to use the resin to coat a wooden replacement for the metal, thereby strengthening it? Still not sure how to picture the 'strength members' though.
@@sizlax You will note that the cast iron is mounted against the wooden sound board. The vibrations are produced in the cast iron frame and then transferred to the wooden sound board. Note the sound formed when the young lady "hammered" the tuning peg. The density of the metal will change the transfer efficiency of the strings to the sound board. So while steel, or aluminum could be used but the piano will not sound the same. It is disappointing that the piano is so complex. Perhaps you could attempt something simpler, like a harpsicord or pianoforte.
"butt springs"... Lol.. ew..