I love Tobias. No Entourage. Just sitting in his corner with his girl or a friend and staying calm. Pulling those amazing strong guys and his young age. A pleasure to watch.
30:50 How is that a false start, he went when the referee said go, in the replay you don't hear the audio to which Tobias reacted, the referee said go then he got to move his hands away but he didn't do it fast enough compared to Tobias speed
26:05 Tobias elbow fouled, not Corey. 26:44 Bad call against Corey that it was a "false start". I mean, there were several bad calls against Corey. They seemed too focused on Corey
Corey is statically stronger than Tobias but Tobias was just to technical and too fast. He is lightning fast and catches pullers before their power gets engaged
Tobias would still win, even strapped every round. As we saw, the second round that they were strapped, Tobias stopped Corey, and in a very bad position. Corey doesn't have the stamina or intelligence to beat Tobias.
@@JonathanBixby-k2h Nah it was clearly really easy when Corey got in the straps. The problem was Corey kept trying to hold on outside the straps and was fast asleep on the go.
That's true. I was an exercise science major in college. One day, one of my professors tested our reaction time. I was always fast, so I expected to do really well, but I was 32 years old, and most of the students were 18-22. To my surprise, I had one of the slowest reaction times in the class! I should mention though that I was only slower by a few thousands of a second, but that's what often separates those in a race.
@@PinnaclePete Been keeping tabs on my reaction time since I was like 15. I'm 28 now. My reaction time has slowly increased over the years. When I started checking I was around 140 ms average to about 200 ms today now.. Of course some days it's better, some worse. I've gotten a feeling that physical exercise actually helps. Especially for me as a dude who does not train regularly. Gonna change that coming year. Time to lose weight before age catches up.
Tobias is so fun to watch. Just needs a mean streak, the ref bias was pretty ridiculous (too many things to mention, but the actual false starts from Corey after the fake false start from Tobias were particularly hilarious) and he just allowed it to happen instead of fighting them.
When Tobias wins he is a class act, no boasting. When Corey got his pin in the strap he acted like a classless, insecure, undisciplined slob. Embarrassing.
The thing is levan was a skinny man when he first started abusing the steroids and he worked his way up to 180 kg getting stronger and stronger...with corey its the opposite he was always big boii but soft and he doesnt use roids as much or nothing at all maybe and he is not pushing himself to become top 5 anyway he has no will power 😂😂😂
The obvious implication is strength weight advantage on-top of high skill, Corey looks like butter in a sock, 180kg juiced to the gills like Levan vs 180kg from my 400lb life in Corey is totally different.
Corey seems to be 75% into it, kinda checked out. He needs to dedicate himself, get down to 350lbs and workout daily, do pullups like Levan doing a set of 20, way more table time practice, etc. Train with a few pros. If he did all that he'd be more technical, have stronger hands and be faster on go...and win!
For superheavyweights its only absolute strength that maters. Coreys issue was not strength it was speed, maybe coordination and technique too. When things slowed down in his lane he was stronger.
What a mess. Giving someone a false start, because the referee cant remove there hand the second time. Man he is lost as a referee, also the first false start Tobias gets even when he start just a little to fast, it clear that the referee is saying 1 thing but hesitating in moving his hand.
So if you know how to type you are smarter? Lmao and if you can do something right it means that I can't insult, you are lost man, find Jesus!@@tristinpugh3131
Except he literally can armwrestle lol. Wtf are you talking about? Someone who can't armwrestle wouldn't stonewall Kurdecha for a round and take 2 rounds from Tobias lol.
from what i can remember about corey's matches lost to john brzenk lost to morozov lost to alex kurdecha lost to kamil won travis bagent who retired for over 10+ years how does this guy still get super matches at EVW or KOTT? should qualify only if he can win waf or some national/regional championships
My honestly feelings during the ppv was for Tobias to win it he deserved it so bad. Dude worked so hard, no homeground advantage, way smaller, awesome armwrestling skills... While Corey had so much advantages but was clearly slacking on training.
How can a puller nowadays be so one dimensional? Corey needs to learn how to pull out of the strap. Also, how does he keep getting high profile matches 😂
I mean he almost won against a top 10 guy there are maybe 11 guys on the planet who can beat him he's bot a scrub lmao jist hard for guys with massive arms and hands to slip they don't have the dexterity a Devon larrat or ermes has and even with good slipping ability Tobias os not east to slip from
@@9xqspx6 He’s literally #1 left in the west because he beat Kody Merritt. Being number 1 in the west automatically warrants high level matches. He’s also beaten Krasi and Ferit. Who aren’t top 10 guys, but still high level. Especially Ferit who proved how dangerous he can be at AMC. Might’ve beat Kurdecha too if he didn’t get injured.
Great reaction from Tobias, he went as soon as Bart said go, wasnt false starting, Bart sometimes didnt take his hands off fast enough, but still it was clean. Corey got more chances than he deserved. Glad this wasnt a robbery and best man won
Im sorry but Corey does not deserve this level of atention he gets. He is stiff, completly incapable of being technical. Maybe looks good for the sport... looks like you fighting a oversized pebble. Love armwrestling, keep up the good work.
Tobias understood that risking a warning over a false start is more rewarding than waiting the judge for a proper Ready go. After all you can do maximum 4 false starts after that your opponent gets 1 point, so better risking every time a false start until you do a perfect start, i have mixed feelings about this if it's ok to false start = 1 warning instead of a foul.
He's just faster, check 30:50 who apparently was a "false start", but the referee said go, in the replay they show after you don't hear the audio to which Tobias reacted, the referee said go then he got to move his hands away but he didn't do it fast enough compared to Tobias speed
Don't get me wrong guys, i'm not saying tobias wasn't the faster one, i'm saying he's the kind of guy to risk several false starts in order to get one perfect, i don't think he will do the same if 2 false start = round for the opponent, that's it
Nah Tobias just has great timing and is fast. This is part of arm wrestling, some people here in the comment section seems to think of being fast as cheating.
Go to 28 min and watch the replay in the slow mode .25 in settings, the ref has hand on each person's hand,he let off Tobias hand first so he knows he's calling go
Guys like Corey, Tobias, and Kamil are kinda stuck. Other than maybe Devon there’s no guys outside the top 10 who can pull them, Dzeranov and Wagner are currently not active on the left, and anyone better than Ivan and Alex are just too much.
Corey's strength is legit. Clearly stronger than an elite puller like Tobias (and Corey even stonewalled Kurdecha before). Tobias was unfortunately just too fast and technical for Corey.
What a nightmare ref combination... the two absolute worst... At 30:02 Bart is lecturing Tobias about having to put his hand lower, while it is Christo who is actually holding the hand of Tobias up... 🤣 What a fucking joke of a reffing. 🤡
Honest question, Im not a fan or a hater of either guy. Do you go when the Ref yellls go, or when they remove their hands from the grip? Like I imagine it should be together, like same time/ Second round ref hangs on, yells GO! and still hangs on. Tobias moved Corey a bit before ref even releases. Just seems like that would be kinda confusing.
Please note, the position of the video is SIMPLY HORRIBLE, you cannot see the position of the hands, you cannot see how the hand reaches the pillow, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION
Corey, just like Kurdecha, are very disappointing to watch. These guys should battle Levan at their size and weight but I feel they'd struggle to win the 115 kg class.
23:00 I really liked the counter Tobias attempted here. It failed but I thought it was a smart and strong move. I think if he practices pulling with that counter move... it could be devastating for people once he gets strong in it
Why did the corey dude get all mad and like he was super offended after he finally won? Talk about a fragile dookie. Tobias was collectd the entire time, not sure why corey wanted to act like he snorted too much creatine suddenly..... LOL
Armwrestling is undoubtedly a sport that was invented by the Americans and thank them very much for that !!! But the Europeans, in my opinion, have added the best of rules and technique to it. When the Americans combine these two components they will be unbeatable here!!!!!
The main issue is just Bart saying go but his hands not leaving at same time.. Tobias reacting to the audio cue at lightning speed
Totally agree
Reffing in armwrestling needs to be better,its very often a mess :p
Totally agree... Slow heavy Guy+US Ref=fault start...
You are very wrong. Tobias cannot react at lightning speed. It's not physically possible due to laws of physics. Please rephrase.
@@FlowithdaGo lol love it
I love Tobias. No Entourage. Just sitting in his corner with his girl or a friend and staying calm. Pulling those amazing strong guys and his young age. A pleasure to watch.
30:50 How is that a false start, he went when the referee said go, in the replay you don't hear the audio to which Tobias reacted, the referee said go then he got to move his hands away but he didn't do it fast enough compared to Tobias speed
Yeah, it was almost a full second after the go when Tobias went for the surge.
Exactly. Easy to see on replay main judges lips says "go" and Sporrong goes after.
26:05 Tobias elbow fouled, not Corey.
26:44 Bad call against Corey that it was a "false start".
I mean, there were several bad calls against Corey. They seemed too focused on Corey
@@deVeresd.Kfz.1515
The 2nd time stamp is absolutely a falsestart
@@Lagia7 OK, then 30:50 was a false start too
Tobias is the man. So nice to see him winning after those referees clearly wanted Corey to win.
I saw Tobias last year for the first time and he became my favorite arm wrestler just pure violence.
Tobias lightning fast 👍🏻💪🏻
Corey is statically stronger than Tobias but Tobias was just to technical and too fast. He is lightning fast and catches pullers before their power gets engaged
Tobias would still win, even strapped every round. As we saw, the second round that they were strapped, Tobias stopped Corey, and in a very bad position. Corey doesn't have the stamina or intelligence to beat Tobias.
@@JonathanBixby-k2h Nah it was clearly really easy when Corey got in the straps. The problem was Corey kept trying to hold on outside the straps and was fast asleep on the go.
It doesn't matter who's faster what matters is strength if you have a stronger arm and hand you can hold him anyway
Tobias didn t false start, he has very fast reaction time, being younger also helps with that.
He wasn't reacting, he was timing his hit
That's true. I was an exercise science major in college. One day, one of my professors tested our reaction time. I was always fast, so I expected to do really well, but I was 32 years old, and most of the students were 18-22. To my surprise, I had one of the slowest reaction times in the class! I should mention though that I was only slower by a few thousands of a second, but that's what often separates those in a race.
If Tobias arm gets stronger he will be a contender for the first spot in the world. We will see where he goes he is still young
not being 200+kg also helps with speed
@@PinnaclePete
Been keeping tabs on my reaction time since I was like 15. I'm 28 now.
My reaction time has slowly increased over the years. When I started checking I was around 140 ms average to about 200 ms today now..
Of course some days it's better, some worse.
I've gotten a feeling that physical exercise actually helps. Especially for me as a dude who does not train regularly.
Gonna change that coming year.
Time to lose weight before age catches up.
Tobias is so fun to watch. Just needs a mean streak, the ref bias was pretty ridiculous (too many things to mention, but the actual false starts from Corey after the fake false start from Tobias were particularly hilarious) and he just allowed it to happen instead of fighting them.
crazy ref bias to be fair, tobias pinned him 6 times in total
When Tobias wins he is a class act, no boasting. When Corey got his pin in the strap he acted like a classless, insecure, undisciplined slob. Embarrassing.
Americans...
Its called adrenaline... you probably wouldnt understand
@LukaVidic01 americans? Yea because Genadi the Georgian never screams... Wagner Bortalato the Brazilian never screams... fucking moron
And you drug addicts from some third world dumb ass planet just calmly stick your needles in your arms.
Meanwhile you haven't exercised let alone physically competed a day in your life 😂
Such an impressive guy. It seems like Sporrong keeps getting better each time we see him.
Funny that people say “ Levan is 180 kg so he is defeating everybody” Corey is 180 kg and is so much weaker than Levan it’s not even close.
The thing is levan was a skinny man when he first started abusing the steroids and he worked his way up to 180 kg getting stronger and stronger...with corey its the opposite he was always big boii but soft and he doesnt use roids as much or nothing at all maybe and he is not pushing himself to become top 5 anyway he has no will power 😂😂😂
The obvious implication is strength weight advantage on-top of high skill, Corey looks like butter in a sock, 180kg juiced to the gills like Levan vs 180kg from my 400lb life in Corey is totally different.
Distributed differently just the hands of levan are huge compared to Tobias
Yeah, body composition matters (SMM, bone size, etc.).
Corey seems to be 75% into it, kinda checked out. He needs to dedicate himself, get down to 350lbs and workout daily, do pullups like Levan doing a set of 20, way more table time practice, etc. Train with a few pros. If he did all that he'd be more technical, have stronger hands and be faster on go...and win!
Man, Tobias will be crazy hard to beat when he gets more years behind him and becomes stronger. Wow, he is fast on a top roll.
That had to be one of the most impressive lighting presses I've ever witnessed
Good job Tobias
Corey saying Tobbe is on his knuckle when he's been covering Tobias entire thumb all the previous rounds lol
Bart is the worst ref
@@Pavang-i2c
That's what's happen if the ref is bart, especially when you're American
@kyleculala6473 dude barts been so horrible for years people still get him to ref I have no idea
Also screaming in Tobias face and then whining every round because he can't keep up with the speed.
Stort grattis till vinsten, min svenska broder!
That lightning speed reflex can beat any monstrous raw strength
It's like in boxing what's the use of a powerful punch if it can't hit me
Why not both? "Tobias"
Good analogy!
No it's not just that he's also a lot stronger.
@@adnanrawashdeh3965 obviously yes, cause if not he can't pin that monster
@@bobbymatienzo7089 "monster" 😂😂 ok
Corey is probably the weakest East vs West puller (pound for pound). He should be a lot stronger than what he actually is.
@bicepsboy167 tough call. You are talking about the top ten in the world after all
He is strong, but slow. Here at least.
He is crazy strong. Problem is that he is only strong in one lane. He lacks versatility.
Speed kills. Makes anyone that can't catch it seem weak in comparison
For superheavyweights its only absolute strength that maters. Coreys issue was not strength it was speed, maybe coordination and technique too. When things slowed down in his lane he was stronger.
What a mess. Giving someone a false start, because the referee cant remove there hand the second time. Man he is lost as a referee, also the first false start Tobias gets even when he start just a little to fast, it clear that the referee is saying 1 thing but hesitating in moving his hand.
We're talking about Bart, worst referee in the armwrestling history, nothing strange here
Yeah Bart is a disaster
These are the two worst referees by far, in my opinion. They've fucked up so many matches... They've almost robbed Tobias here.
@@TheJohnbusi Bart has to go.
They were scared corey would eat all food in the after party
Tobias !!That was fucking phenomenal ! Well done
14:05 here corey west yelling in his face but then he lost 😂 Tobías the best
Yeah that was pretty disrespectful of Corey to do that imo
Corey "the Clownrilla" west
@@msnovell9 Yeah, after that I was not only rooting for Tobias, but also against Corey.
Totally disrespectful and classless.
3:32 Tobias isn't angel either 😂
Thumbs up to the announcer. You never fail to make me laugh.
Corey is so slow, so he cry after every round 🤣
Takes after his mentor.
yes
your grammars wrong btw. insult after you learn to spell.
So if you know how to type you are smarter? Lmao and if you can do something right it means that I can't insult, you are lost man, find Jesus!@@tristinpugh3131
@@tristinpugh3131I still can understand what he want to said. So i didn't see a problem maybe English is his second language (also me)
corey west is the epitome of 'just because you are big/fat, doesn't mean u can armwrestle'
He can armwrestle. He is very strong. Tobias just happens to be one of the top 10 left arms in the world
He absolutely CAN armwrestle
In the straps he won every time. Tobias is top ten in the world left hand. Don’t be small minded.
Except he literally can armwrestle lol. Wtf are you talking about?
Someone who can't armwrestle wouldn't stonewall Kurdecha for a round and take 2 rounds from Tobias lol.
from what i can remember about corey's matches
lost to john brzenk
lost to morozov
lost to alex kurdecha
lost to kamil
won travis bagent who retired for over 10+ years
how does this guy still get super matches at EVW or KOTT? should qualify only if he can win waf or some national/regional championships
5:20 Tobias getting vocal, love it
3:32 psycho Tobias
The guy in the crowd, "GET TO THE STRAPPPAAAAA" 😂😂😂
The ref bias was a bit out of control on this one. Tobias took a deserved win vs Corey with homeground advantage, ref advantage, weight advantage
My honestly feelings during the ppv was for Tobias to win it he deserved it so bad.
Dude worked so hard, no homeground advantage, way smaller, awesome armwrestling skills...
While Corey had so much advantages but was clearly slacking on training.
Tobias is really a great Armwrestler, he is fuxxing fast and very strong. I like his matches. 💪💪
this is just awesome 😎 Happy Sunday fam and you got this Uncle Todd 💪🏼
How can a puller nowadays be so one dimensional? Corey needs to learn how to pull out of the strap. Also, how does he keep getting high profile matches 😂
I mean he almost won against a top 10 guy there are maybe 11 guys on the planet who can beat him he's bot a scrub lmao jist hard for guys with massive arms and hands to slip they don't have the dexterity a Devon larrat or ermes has and even with good slipping ability Tobias os not east to slip from
He keeps getting high profile matches because he is high profile. He obviously has top level strength.
@@phothewin6019 Does he have any significant wins? I don't remember any.
@@9xqspx6 He’s literally #1 left in the west because he beat Kody Merritt. Being number 1 in the west automatically warrants high level matches.
He’s also beaten Krasi and Ferit. Who aren’t top 10 guys, but still high level. Especially Ferit who proved how dangerous he can be at AMC. Might’ve beat Kurdecha too if he didn’t get injured.
@@phothewin6019 How many wins does Kody have in EvW or KotT?
Tobias is just way too fast...
yeees Tobias.....bra gjort!
Corey had me patting my chest real hard just now💪🏾
Damn they really wanted tobias to loose XD
Tobias so explosive, he won fairly....
Great reaction from Tobias, he went as soon as Bart said go, wasnt false starting, Bart sometimes didnt take his hands off fast enough, but still it was clean. Corey got more chances than he deserved. Glad this wasnt a robbery and best man won
7 - 2 win 😂
Yes something like that
Yeah 😁😄. Tobias is really fast 💨 and add more power to that and it’s a dominating combo. I love Sweden
Name checks out
A bit sketchy reffing, Cory using homefield advantage in bollocks reviews, Sporrong coming thru with a big win under hard circumstances, Hats off
Corey needs some mental cardio !
Im sorry but Corey does not deserve this level of atention he gets. He is stiff, completly incapable of being technical. Maybe looks good for the sport... looks like you fighting a oversized pebble. Love armwrestling, keep up the good work.
yes bro i totally agree corey is too fat that he cant connect thaat properly with his shoulder and chesto to his arm
Bra jobbat.
Tobias understood that risking a warning over a false start is more rewarding than waiting the judge for a proper Ready go. After all you can do maximum 4 false starts after that your opponent gets 1 point, so better risking every time a false start until you do a perfect start, i have mixed feelings about this if it's ok to false start = 1 warning instead of a foul.
He's just faster, check 30:50 who apparently was a "false start", but the referee said go, in the replay they show after you don't hear the audio to which Tobias reacted, the referee said go then he got to move his hands away but he didn't do it fast enough compared to Tobias speed
Don't get me wrong guys, i'm not saying tobias wasn't the faster one, i'm saying he's the kind of guy to risk several false starts in order to get one perfect, i don't think he will do the same if 2 false start = round for the opponent, that's it
Nah Tobias just has great timing and is fast. This is part of arm wrestling, some people here in the comment section seems to think of being fast as cheating.
Tobias ist mit riesen Abstand der absolut bessere Wrestler! Intelligenter und technisch um Klassen besser!
How was that last one a false start? 31:39 You can see his saying go, THEN Tobias pulls!?
but ref wasnt pulling hands when he said go. Ref left his hands every single round and tobias was going off the refs audio
Ongelma on siinä että tuomarin suu on nopeampi kuin hänen kädet. Minusta se go huuto ratkaisee, eikä se kuinka hitaat tuomarin kädet on.
How many times does Tobias have to pin Corey to win? 😅
Tobias could be the one who beats Levan due only to perfect timing.
ref hopped on all the cycles lol
Most of these refs could win against any average Joe haha
remember hristo gave janis a run for his money in WAF, he's no joke
Sista reppet flög ju upp, du snart i 400kg form igen, men mycket mer deffad💪💪💪🔥
I think they should test this guy's reaction times at other things too. Very impressive.
Corey is looking a beast💪🏼👊🏼 good job from the contender🤙🏼
i love it when usa loses, the crowd is so quiet lol
Svvedish Povver, good job man
Go to 28 min and watch the replay in the slow mode .25 in settings, the ref has hand on each person's hand,he let off Tobias hand first so he knows he's calling go
Guys like Corey, Tobias, and Kamil are kinda stuck. Other than maybe Devon there’s no guys outside the top 10 who can pull them, Dzeranov and Wagner are currently not active on the left, and anyone better than Ivan and Alex are just too much.
Tobias is getting better and better! I believe he can beat some of the top guys. Styles make matches!
@ I too believe Tobias is soon to be on that level, but if Corey is able to hook him then I have no doubt the top guys can do it easier
32:27 JAJAHHAHAHAJAJJA THEBEST PART OF ALL 😂😂
Corey's strength is legit. Clearly stronger than an elite puller like Tobias (and Corey even stonewalled Kurdecha before). Tobias was unfortunately just too fast and technical for Corey.
What a nightmare ref combination... the two absolute worst...
At 30:02 Bart is lecturing Tobias about having to put his hand lower, while it is Christo who is actually holding the hand of Tobias up... 🤣 What a fucking joke of a reffing. 🤡
Dude bart is the worst ref lol😂
Agreed. And the 2nd worst is Christo.
they tried so hard to cook it for the homeboy Corey lol, he is strong but too slow. Tobias is fast.
Tobias's weapon was speed and Corey's was straps
Lets be real. Corey is 140 pounds overweight. Atleast..
No man he's shredded
Honest question, Im not a fan or a hater of either guy.
Do you go when the Ref yellls go, or when they remove their hands from the grip?
Like I imagine it should be together, like same time/
Second round ref hangs on, yells GO! and still hangs on.
Tobias moved Corey a bit before ref even releases.
Just seems like that would be kinda confusing.
Obviously when they say "go". If it was when they remove the hand, there would be no need to say "go"...
The rule is that "Go" starts the match
Most of them start on "g".
Please note, the position of the video is SIMPLY HORRIBLE, you cannot see the position of the hands, you cannot see how the hand reaches the pillow, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION
Corey, just like Kurdecha, are very disappointing to watch. These guys should battle Levan at their size and weight but I feel they'd struggle to win the 115 kg class.
Because it's not just about weight my friend and Levan isn't as powerful and successful as he is just because he's heavy.
Sverige represent!!
Tobias ”The Lightning” Sporrong ⚡️💪
Corey had the strength but couldn't get past that initial start it seemed. Don't give up Corey! 💪
Neil making my laugh with his commentary 🤣
Tobias is faaast! 💪💪💪
Bra jobbat Tobias! 👍
so fast. very impressed.
Weird to keep giving Tobias false starts when the head ref is to blame.
Speed kills
sprong deserves the nickname ''Babyface Assassin''
At Least you could spell his name right
Anyone noticing how steroids and HGH MT is feeding him with are deforming Coreys face?
Corey acts like a child, and he is not honest
Swede got robbed. should've won 4-1 ages ago. fake false starts. he's going after the ref says "go" (slow replays)
23:00 I really liked the counter Tobias attempted here. It failed but I thought it was a smart and strong move. I think if he practices pulling with that counter move... it could be devastating for people once he gets strong in it
Corey sempre me dá impressão que já entra derrotado
Todo momento de cabeça baixa
Tem que ser mais confiante
Devon be humble never say never remember mis golden words. And boast ..Tobías will kick your ass
Tobias is incredible!
Tobias absolute beast mode
East vs west arm wrestler 💪 March 😊❤
Why did the corey dude get all mad and like he was super offended after he finally won? Talk about a fragile dookie. Tobias was collectd the entire time, not sure why corey wanted to act like he snorted too much creatine suddenly..... LOL
Corey got his piss poor sportsmanship from his mentor Michael Todd.
Insane Stats on Corey
He should use it to climb SHW
If West spent more time concentrating on arm wrestling rather than on worrying about his useless beard - he may do better 🥴
can u even grow a beard 😭
Underbart Tobias😊🇸🇪
We need a rematch between kamil and tobias
Tobias vs devon i would love to see that
Update? What?
Tobias es el Dr Strange de la lucha de brazos
Armwrestling is undoubtedly a sport that was invented by the Americans and thank them very much for that !!! But the Europeans, in my opinion, have added the best of rules and technique to it. When the Americans combine these two components they will be unbeatable here!!!!!
Some of those false starts were wrong calls
You mean all of them? ...
Corey west loosing as usual
Corey is a sore loser, when you watch it back on 0.25 speed, they ain’t even false start 30:52
Corey tinha muitos técnicos Devon , Toddy e outros. Mas Tobias não tinha ninguém e venceu bravamente! Tobias vai longe