The DA is right to demand it fair share in Gnu. Any party in the world would do the same. South Africa elective system is proportional representation. DA has 87 Mps, more than half of Ancs' number. Party has its policies. They are right to demand slots
ANC must be realistic, they are the biggest losers in the elections and have disappointed a lot of people, they must therefore be reasonable and stop being selfish and consider the poor south Africans who are now drowning in this situation because of their greediness. Let them share with wise people from other parties.
DA accepting the current terms is Political Suicide, here’s a snippet explaining why… “What this potentially means for ANC coalition partners is starkly illustrated by the prior experience of the Inkatha Freedom Party in national government. After the 1999 election the ANC continued in its coalition with the IFP, giving that party the ministries of Home Affairs, Correctional Services, and Science and Technology. In all three cases ANC loyalists were inserted as DGs, below these IFP ministers. In the case of Home Affairs, Mbeki appointed one ANC ex-intelligence officer as Mangosuthu Buthelezi’s DG in 1999 and then another in 2003. He also appointed an ANC ex-intelligence officer as DG of DCS in 2001. The effect of this was to allow these two IFP ministers the trappings of office but neutralise them politically by ensuring administrative control of their departments was in ANC hands. This was especially so as the ANC majority in cabinet had the final say over policy, which was binding on those IFP ministers, as well. This was an expertly executed political version of the German military manoeuvre called the “kesselschlacht” (battle of encirclement) whereby you force your opponent into submission not by a direct assault, but by encircling them and cutting them off from their supply lines, and their avenue of retreat. The ANC destroyed the National Party of FW de Klerk in the first GNU in a similar manner, as described here. This policy of deploying ANC loyalists to top positions in the state has continued to this day. In an affidavit submitted to court last year in defence of cadre deployment President Ramaphosa stated under oath that the Cadre Deployment Policy “applies to senior positions in government such as Directors-General and Deputy Directors-General”. And he also vehemently defended the right of the ANC to deploy cadres to these and other positions in the state machinery that it controlled. This means that once they have agreed to serve in cabinet any new DA ministers are going to take over departments whose top ranks are, according to President Ramaphosa himself, staffed with ANC deployees. Directors-General are employed on fixed five-year contracts and in terms of the current regulations, should a vacancy for head of department arise, the selection panel should be made of the minister of that department, two other ministers, and a national head of department. The panel would need to reach consensus on their preferred candidate and cabinet would need to approve the choice before the President made the appointment. When it comes to choosing a new DG for their department, the DA minister could potentially be outnumbered three-to-one by ANC people on the selection panel for the appointment.”
What name can be given to such controlling party over another. The DA is 2nd strongest party. Surely CR should respect one or two wishes from them! He cannot have it all his way to please the Cadres. Those that did not perform and corruption must be pushed out if the system!
@@corneliacoetz243this is dirty politics - a monopoly of power and greed. The ANC has entrenched their power so deeply across all levers that we as citizens can’t even tell which direction to run in for safety, because any party that tries to even get close will be engulfed in their political games. concerned that being 2nd most powerful will not be enough, only an actual majority.
For two parties that opposed each other for 30 years, to actually get together to talk about things, is a miracle in itself... It will all take time, therefore, to iron out matters... That would definitely take major surgery ... '94 was one miracle... Now, we are facing another... Just chill, and be optimistic... Unless, that which is supposed to be in between the ears is a bit short...
Hugo Ribatika oa nthabisa 😂o rekile mokhabo-puo oo kae 😂.. Nka u bona u itloaetsa eona seiponeng 🙈😂... Maps Maponyane is going to look like u in old age 😂...Ek grap net my friend
Disappointed in the quality of this interview... The content discussed is good, interesting, and insightful, but the guest comes across as uncertain and unprepared for the discussion, undermining the credibility of the whole interview.
Da must stop nonsense, they must understand that if we go back to elections they will get less.... they must let the nonsense of ANC to live and act during the process... We don't want this nonsense to continue. The people of SA are started seeing the uselessness of our political parties and go back the ANC supremacy
Anc used to have a full loaf they must accept they are no longer majority and take half
The DA is right to demand it fair share in Gnu. Any party in the world would do the same. South Africa elective system is proportional representation. DA has 87 Mps, more than half of Ancs' number. Party has its policies. They are right to demand slots
Only white supremacist,a party of Ronaldo Gouws DA will instruct and demand positions,a consensus do not apply to these racists.
Especially since they are the only party singled out to receive less proportion than the electorate have them.
For 30 years ANC took south Africa to hell no simple drinking water
Then please rush to the: water aid charity and the charity water organisation to help the community!!
What about Hammanskraal?
DA is in charge there
These politicians is fighting now for pay day, not worrying about what happens with people on ground.
You see now, ANC messed up big time... corruption and greediness lend the whole country into this whole lot of uncertainty 😢😢😢
The ANC is genuinely corrupt🤣🤣🤣
ANC must be realistic, they are the biggest losers in the elections and have disappointed a lot of people, they must therefore be reasonable and stop being selfish and consider the poor south Africans who are now drowning in this situation because of their greediness. Let them share with wise people from other parties.
The ANC is free to go to Nkandla and merge with MK, the DA is not at their mercy.
That would be a disaster 😂, mk are fools
Ja they must put a skirt and some lipstick on Fikile and send him over to ZUPTA
@@craig81211 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@andrewswales1042MK is the replica of ZANU PF
GOOD LUCK!
Hold on ANC. You have most of South Africans to consider and their votes🤨. The ANC needs the DA like they need a snake bite.
More cabinet for DA less stealing and corruption.
Are you sure?
That's what ANC thieves are afraid of
@@aarongunnz9513
Is DA holy? All politicians are opportunists
Who said they are stealing as if you are innocent.
@@thembimaseko9600 They are stealing wena ? Why too many service delivery protests in this country ??
DA accepting the current terms is Political Suicide, here’s a snippet explaining why…
“What this potentially means for ANC coalition partners is starkly illustrated by the prior experience of the Inkatha Freedom Party in national government. After the 1999 election the ANC continued in its coalition with the IFP, giving that party the ministries of Home Affairs, Correctional Services, and Science and Technology.
In all three cases ANC loyalists were inserted as DGs, below these IFP ministers. In the case of Home Affairs, Mbeki appointed one ANC ex-intelligence officer as Mangosuthu Buthelezi’s DG in 1999 and then another in 2003. He also appointed an ANC ex-intelligence officer as DG of DCS in 2001. The effect of this was to allow these two IFP ministers the trappings of office but neutralise them politically by ensuring administrative control of their departments was in ANC hands. This was especially so as the ANC majority in cabinet had the final say over policy, which was binding on those IFP ministers, as well.
This was an expertly executed political version of the German military manoeuvre called the “kesselschlacht” (battle of encirclement) whereby you force your opponent into submission not by a direct assault, but by encircling them and cutting them off from their supply lines, and their avenue of retreat. The ANC destroyed the National Party of FW de Klerk in the first GNU in a similar manner, as described here.
This policy of deploying ANC loyalists to top positions in the state has continued to this day. In an affidavit submitted to court last year in defence of cadre deployment President Ramaphosa stated under oath that the Cadre Deployment Policy “applies to senior positions in government such as Directors-General and Deputy Directors-General”. And he also vehemently defended the right of the ANC to deploy cadres to these and other positions in the state machinery that it controlled.
This means that once they have agreed to serve in cabinet any new DA ministers are going to take over departments whose top ranks are, according to President Ramaphosa himself, staffed with ANC deployees. Directors-General are employed on fixed five-year contracts and in terms of the current regulations, should a vacancy for head of department arise, the selection panel should be made of the minister of that department, two other ministers, and a national head of department. The panel would need to reach consensus on their preferred candidate and cabinet would need to approve the choice before the President made the appointment. When it comes to choosing a new DG for their department, the DA minister could potentially be outnumbered three-to-one by ANC people on the selection panel for the appointment.”
What name can be given to such controlling party over another. The DA is 2nd strongest party. Surely CR should respect one or two wishes from them! He cannot have it all his way to please the Cadres. Those that did not perform and corruption must be pushed out if the system!
@@corneliacoetz243this is dirty politics - a monopoly of power and greed. The ANC has entrenched their power so deeply across all levers that we as citizens can’t even tell which direction to run in for safety, because any party that tries to even get close will be engulfed in their political games. concerned that being 2nd most powerful will not be enough, only an actual majority.
Disaster in making
Not in deadlock: in negotiation! DA can leave if they feel they want to.
There’s the need for a strong agreement between the ANC and the DA political parties in South Africa.
The ANC now have the enemy in their home. Now we see how they are doing their best to hide the broken cookie jar.
What enemy are you talking about. Then you really does not know whats going on in this country for 30 yrs. Look at yourself as an enemy with that bs.
Em. Em. E m. Em. Em. Em. Em. Em. 😮
Unfortunately you are late, expect the announcement of the GNU cabinet ministers from now
For two parties that opposed each other for 30 years, to actually get together to talk about things, is a miracle in itself...
It will all take time, therefore, to iron out matters... That would definitely take major surgery ... '94 was one miracle... Now, we are facing another... Just chill, and be optimistic... Unless, that which is supposed to be in between the ears is a bit short...
Even if they can agree we don't support it, ANC will commit suicide if they seal this deal
Wow Im surprised and impressed by this guy.
Yeah. Open minded and good input re the sutuation.
If you're impressed by a bunch of "uhm...uhm...uhm"(which are an indication of lack of clarity in thought) then you're a dunce.
Ngithi ayihoxe iDA khona abazokhala.
Yes yes anc are sowwer ne mmmmm
Hugo Ribatika oa nthabisa 😂o rekile mokhabo-puo oo kae 😂.. Nka u bona u itloaetsa eona seiponeng 🙈😂... Maps Maponyane is going to look like u in old age 😂...Ek grap net my friend
Ahm,Ahm,ahm, 😅😅😅
He's very smart, just needs to learn to breathe and take his time.
Voting for the DA, ANC and ifp was a wast of vote. Facts
Which party do you propose? Which parties would have the political maturity and experience to handle the reigns of national power?
Streit
Uzuma ngenhliziyo ende ngiyamzonda lobaba uhlala efuna ukuxhotha abantu nje ngoba uramaphosa abulala I ANC umthakathi
😂😅😂😅😂😅
Eh, Eh, Ehm, Eh, Eh, Ehm...
Disappointed in the quality of this interview... The content discussed is good, interesting, and insightful, but the guest comes across as uncertain and unprepared for the discussion, undermining the credibility of the whole interview.
At least he was not biased.
How did the ANC expect cooperation from its oppressor like DA? This is self inflicted
...oppressor please who told you that bs
Agreed.
Da must stop nonsense, they must understand that if we go back to elections they will get less.... they must let the nonsense of ANC to live and act during the process... We don't want this nonsense to continue. The people of SA are started seeing the uselessness of our political parties and go back the ANC supremacy