@@bigmanbazzaaa In fact, Mind Electric and Time Machine were originally Tally Hall songs back before MMMM. Also the song I'm Gonna Win on Rob's solo album
Lyrics: Blind a shining star Ye won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known I was a island onto myself I had a heart i hadn't felt Why would it hurt me? Or was it real? It was the day I had to part I was afraid to miss my heart What did it matter? Why did it matter? And would I feel? Blind a shining star Ye won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known I was a victim of magic, Apollo Catching my breath as I bled on the ground Somebody called me to follow, I followed Thinking alound without hearing a sound When all the planets fall to dust Lonely departing after us Gone not forgotten Long but forgotten In every element of life Love camouflages under strife Or other matters Not only matter Let there be more Blind a shining star Ye won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known Maybe we'll tango [tangle] tomorrow The sorrow Sweeping us up as our mother replies Suddenly, everything flowing My [like] water Clearer than all we can see With all thine eyes (Interlude) Why do traveling tumbleweeds arrive? Why do murderous animals survive? Why do i deserve to be revived? Why are any of all of us alive?
I think that this and the Time Machine demo fit as standalone experiences while the complete versions are best played in the album’s sequence, neither of them are worse per-say, but they serve different purposes
Even down to stuff like how this song says “why DO murderous animals survive”, while the album version is “why DID murderous animals survive.” It’s like it’s looking back while this version is in the present.
i would like an alternate lyric like “why am i the only one who survived?” i mean i know its corny but like it implies that simon and his girl where robbed and she got shot
@@salteeth By Belafonte I mean Harry Belafonte! Joe is clearly influenced by the musician Harry Belafonte, who is a famous musician active from the 50s onward. The influence comes through strongest on "Banana Man", which Joe readily admits. Its not hard to figure out though, Belafonte's most famous song is the famous "Day-O (Banana Boat Song)". I think at this stage in the album's construction he was planning for it to be a lot more "tropical" than the final product turned out to be. The deeper but swinging vocal quality here seems to be an attempt to emulate, if not exactly replicate, Belafonte's style. You'll notice the quality of Joe's voice is very similar to the way he was singing in Banana Man, minus the affected grammar.
Blinding shining star You won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known I was an isle unto myself I had a heart I hadn't felt Why would it hurt me Or was it real It was the day I had to part I was afraid to miss my heart What did it matter Why did it matter Or would I feel Blinding shining star You won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known I was a victim of magic Apollo catching my breath as I bled on the ground Somebody called me to follow I followed thinking aloud without hearing the sound When all the planets fall to dust Lonely departing after us Gone not forgotten Long but forgotten In every element of life Love camouflages under strife or other matters Not only matter let there be more Blinding shining star You won't see so far Know what can't be shown Feel what can't be known Maybe we'll tango tomorrow The sorrow sweeping us off as our mother replies Suddenly everything flowing Like water clearer than all we can see with thine eyes Why do traveling tumbleweeds arrive? Why do murderous animals survive? Why do I deserve to be revived ? Why are any or all of us alive?
I agree. I think that Miracle Musical should have released this as an album on Spotify as well. I wouldn't have ever known there were demos in the first place if I didn't go on the Miracle Musical wiki page.
Idk if it’s just me but I think These demos make it seem like they were working on a 3rd album for tally hall but they couldn’t get together fully in one place at the same time so they had to make it a different, independent project.
I don't know if this is possible but if Tally Hall made merch I would buy it. I wish I heard of them years before, I only found them a few months ago and really love everything Hawaii Part 2 related
@@tuser8 yea, i could probably just bend it back into place. i swore that it was being sold like a year ago though... maybe my sense of time is skewed. I have the vinyl too, that's how i got it
i feel like the album version is a sort of comfort song, while this is a story about a narcissistic man believing he is being hurt by everyone around him and that he is an isle unto himself. also i like this more .)
Honestly i prefer this version more than the final version, just if it had higher production value it would've been like genuinely something I wish would've been in the final album
This is a surreal experience How much inflection and tone can change things The more Hawaiian vibes is interesting and I kinda wish we got more of it in the final album
WHY IS THIS SUCH A BANGER NO MATTER WHAT 💥💥💥💥 (Isle Unto Thyself is my favorite as well as Dream Sweet in Sea Major) It's clear that they made this song from mostly if not all first person to mostly second person as someone talking about someone else instead of themself which actually is kind of a theme with Miracle Musical vs. Tally Hall Miracle Musical tended to have this second person point of view because the music is written from an outsiders point of view while Tally Hall sounds like first person because it's heavily written in a way where It's the firsthand account of someone who was directly affected I probably sound insane but whatever 💀
Maybe your insane because you killed your girlfriend and pleaded insanity so you got electric shock therapy and then actually became insane. Just a theory…
1:37 I said this on another video of these songs but I need to say it on the original song, and its that this part REALLY sounds like a regular tally hall song.
I like the tone of Joe's voice and the music of this version more but I like the lyrics and the fluidity of the final version. Too bad I can't combine them
I like to think Hawaii part II was intentioned to be another album from tally hall, the called 3rd album. But as Time passed by the project was passed to another band
Kinda. Joe Hawley, who kinda lead the idea, went on to make this after Tally Hall because he had the means to do so. He had known he wanted a project like this for years earlier, and suppose he just found his chance. Source: an interview with him in 2019 (ua-cam.com/video/pGZE4nYci7U/v-deo.html)
i think i like the final better than this. it gives the questioning lyrics more of a questioning tone to them and i think the change from "i" to "you" was for the best also "i was a victim of magic apollo" is strangely distant in the final, whereas here its just... there. the instruments i just feel are more flat, i guess they added a little echo in the final. also the final few lyrics having a slower and quieter pace makes them feel more eerie, which i love. but i do like the echo of the song's chorus at the end.
![Tally Hall - Light & Night [HQ]](/img/n.gif)
It’s great listening to the demos and realizing Hawaii: Part II is actually like 16 different albums crammed into one.
Considering there's eleven songs, where did the other five albums go?
@@Candme38 they're all the mind electric and time machine
666'th like let's gooo yes i'm gonna be that person
@@conic2721 And inside the mind of simon
You have 666 likes I don’t want to ruin it
I love how crispy the drums are in this version
the triangle makes it so much better
I didn't know triangles were even useful instruments
@@corngod8059the triangle is unironically my fav thing abt the mind electric
I know it's so clickity clackity
ross
So crispy crunchy clickity clackity 😋 (I am a percussionist😭)
this version is gives me tally hall vibes but the completed one gives me miracle musical if that makes sense
it does
apparently it was recorded in january 2006 so that's probably why.
A lot of the Hawaii: part II / part II demo songs have samples of unreleased TH songs, which might be why
@@bigmanbazzaaa In fact, Mind Electric and Time Machine were originally Tally Hall songs back before MMMM. Also the song I'm Gonna Win on Rob's solo album
@@Mr.Happy777 and murders was prob meant for good and evil cuz demo was recorded in 2009
The "i was a victim of magic Apollo" bit siunds so much better here it's beautiful
No way 😧
it sounds absurdly jazzy and it pleases my auditory senses.
Fr it literally makes me ascend
I love it so much more than the official version it’s just so *YUMMY*
why u here
Finally. Isle unto myself.
Yes
*Island to myself
Lyrics:
Blind a shining star
Ye won't see so far
Know what can't be shown
Feel what can't be known
I was a island onto myself
I had a heart i hadn't felt
Why would it hurt me?
Or was it real?
It was the day I had to part
I was afraid to miss my heart
What did it matter?
Why did it matter?
And would I feel?
Blind a shining star
Ye won't see so far
Know what can't be shown
Feel what can't be known
I was a victim of magic, Apollo
Catching my breath as I bled on the ground
Somebody called me to follow, I followed
Thinking alound without hearing a sound
When all the planets fall to dust
Lonely departing after us
Gone not forgotten
Long but forgotten
In every element of life
Love camouflages under strife
Or other matters
Not only matter
Let there be more
Blind a shining star
Ye won't see so far
Know what can't be shown
Feel what can't be known
Maybe we'll tango [tangle] tomorrow
The sorrow
Sweeping us up as our mother replies
Suddenly, everything flowing
My [like] water
Clearer than all we can see
With all thine eyes
(Interlude)
Why do traveling tumbleweeds arrive?
Why do murderous animals survive?
Why do i deserve to be revived?
Why are any of all of us alive?
*What would i feel
What did the star do???:(
I like this better than the album version for some reason. Feels a lot like a kind of song from the 40's or 50's, mixed with a hawaiian style.
Always reminds me of this song
ua-cam.com/video/9CDs067081E/v-deo.html
Or this version ua-cam.com/video/Sy0mLLKJ0DU/v-deo.html
The drumming gives it late 60s and 70s vibes
I think that this and the Time Machine demo fit as standalone experiences while the complete versions are best played in the album’s sequence, neither of them are worse per-say, but they serve different purposes
That was exactly what I was thinking!!!
You don't know how much I love these demos of just Joe singing
The voice distortion is not cool but the lyrics and other instruments make this a small issue and the actual album is more vibing
soggy cat shark pfp based
I love just hearing the thought process behind these with raw Joe vocals ESPECIALLY HERE OMG THE VOCALS ARE SO TASTY OMG 😭😭
It's weird how "I" turned into "You"
You*
I read the comic and then i heard it then i was like JESUS
@Blaze Catt I still don't understand what's the story's about?
@@MrMoon-pp8xv tHe coMiC??
@Luke B WHAT FUCKING COMIC
The final version sounds like it’s about the singer of this version.
Even down to stuff like how this song says “why DO murderous animals survive”, while the album version is “why DID murderous animals survive.” It’s like it’s looking back while this version is in the present.
@@platinumsix2087 interesting!
I love this
i think he sings this to himself in the actual album after he goes back in time, hence why "I" turns into "you"
what
@@nirvedkamble2858 what do you mean what?
@@wash8533 what
holy shit
the idea presented in “time machine” is actually just Simon’s mind messing with him as he believes he did commit the murder
the "I was a victim of magic, apollo." sounds WAYYYY better in this version
1:37
there's something about it that just sounds... heavenly.
@@naps_878 they cooked on that one they should have kept it in
I think it's the lack of vocal effects. It really takes away from the humanity of the song.
It does sound unfinished but you wouldn't expect the final version to come out of this.
Same, is flawless
3:03 I AM ACTUALLY ASCENDING I LOVE THIS PART SO MUCH
Fr
ITS SO GOOD FR
FRRRR THAT'S MY FAVORITE PART IT'S SOOOO GOOD IALQJDSO1ND9EHG
THE BEST DAMN PART, LIKE HOLYSHIT IM ASCENDING!!
It feels better than the final version in my opinion
Idk why but I like the alternate lyric “ blind *a* shining star”
It implies a star can see in the first place
@@Zoinkerton778 or to stop the light coming from the star
i would like an alternate lyric like “why am i the only one who survived?” i mean i know its corny but like it implies that simon and his girl where robbed and she got shot
i LOVE the "I was a victim of magic, Apollo *ding*" I CANT EXPLIAN IT
why does it sound sort of like joe’s trying to sing with a country accent
It does
I guess a little bit if you squint your ears haha
He's doing Belafonte, I think.
@@Megameh64 ?
@@salteeth By Belafonte I mean Harry Belafonte! Joe is clearly influenced by the musician Harry Belafonte, who is a famous musician active from the 50s onward. The influence comes through strongest on "Banana Man", which Joe readily admits. Its not hard to figure out though, Belafonte's most famous song is the famous "Day-O (Banana Boat Song)". I think at this stage in the album's construction he was planning for it to be a lot more "tropical" than the final product turned out to be. The deeper but swinging vocal quality here seems to be an attempt to emulate, if not exactly replicate, Belafonte's style. You'll notice the quality of Joe's voice is very similar to the way he was singing in Banana Man, minus the affected grammar.
1:37 slaps so hard
Also 3:02
0:00-4:19 best part
Do you dislike the last second?
Bro i agree
Oh you little goober
@@hummingbirdspark3998 The last second was garbage the rest was amazing
True
The final version took my mind on a journey, but this demo version brought tears to my eyes!
I'm pleased to see other people are moved by Hawaii Part 2 content as well
@@Jahtso it’s soooo good
if i had to choose a username out of any of the demos it'd be this one
wait
I love your profile picture sm oh my god
@@Alexplains. I am aware I have an effect on people
But you’re Simon?
@@latedawns1797 your truly!
The magic apollo verse in this version is so much better
agreed!!
disagreed!!
disagreed!!
@@achoo3001 agree to disagree.
@@Uber_Versace ok i'm not sure why i said disagree cos the apollo verse in the demo is literally the best thing i've ever heard
1:38 this version goes so hard mannn I wish it had this vibe in the original
*Having a panic attack due to how different it is*
did you listen to the time machine one?
try the original spring and the storm demo... the one with the garage flooding
OC: i had a panic attack because this is way more different than the other one
the two guys above me: *cool listen to the others*
Blinding shining star
You won't see so far
Know what can't be shown
Feel what can't be known
I was an isle unto myself
I had a heart I hadn't felt
Why would it hurt me
Or was it real
It was the day I had to part
I was afraid to miss my heart
What did it matter
Why did it matter
Or would I feel
Blinding shining star
You won't see so far
Know what can't be shown
Feel what can't be known
I was a victim of magic
Apollo catching my breath as I bled on the ground
Somebody called me to follow
I followed thinking aloud without hearing the sound
When all the planets fall to dust
Lonely departing after us
Gone not forgotten
Long but forgotten
In every element of life
Love camouflages under strife or other matters
Not only matter let there be more
Blinding shining star
You won't see so far
Know what can't be shown
Feel what can't be known
Maybe we'll tango tomorrow
The sorrow sweeping us off as our mother replies
Suddenly everything flowing
Like water clearer than all we can see with thine eyes
Why do traveling tumbleweeds arrive?
Why do murderous animals survive?
Why do I deserve to be revived
?
Why are any or all of us alive?
Not sure if they're saying "Blinding shining star", or "Blind a shining star" so I'm going to stick with the finished lyrics on that part.
Its "Blinding shining star"
2:37
"Blind a shining star
He won't see so far"
At least that's what it sounds like to me.
@@invisiblescout Joe often changes the lyrics around in demos such as in aristotles denial so i guess youre not wrong :/
I thought it was "Like a shining star", but in the normal version it was "Blinding Shining Star"
that pixel-y part MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM yes
two trucks having sex
@@lj_fin827 the founding fathers cry
Two trucks
two trucks *holding hands*
@@m3b02 the passion, the passion, more than I can withstand
I will literally kill to get hawaii part II part II on Spotify ☹️☹️
Real
I volunteer as tribute
I’m sorry I already sacrificed my soul for silksong
So we will *murders*
I agree. I think that Miracle Musical should have released this as an album on Spotify as well. I wouldn't have ever known there were demos in the first place if I didn't go on the Miracle Musical wiki page.
I like this more than the complete version. It's more tally hall than miracle musical.
The part at 1:50 is musical ice cream
Truer words have never been spoken
I like how in the demos for Hawaii ptii the story of the album seems more clearer to understand
You know I am glad he went with the final one because it feels like in this version he doesn't time his lyrics right and he forgets them.
Well it is a demo so it doesn't have to be perfect. Just needs to get the sound right. But yeah I agree.
Idk if it’s just me but I think These demos make it seem like they were working on a 3rd album for tally hall but they couldn’t get together fully in one place at the same time so they had to make it a different, independent project.
i mean, they did preform inside the mind of simon together.
AGH ZUBIN'S HIGH NOTES SUNSSHGETDDTTDGDG
I love the echo at the end I have idea why
yeah me too
I don't know if this is possible but if Tally Hall made merch I would buy it. I wish I heard of them years before, I only found them a few months ago and really love everything Hawaii Part 2 related
I found them probably at around the same time as you if the comment says the right time. Anyways, I fully agree
You don't need merch, just buy a single-colir tie and white dress shirt. For this album, get a black shirt instead
Tally hall did have a limited time shirt in 2016
@@tuser8 did the miracle musical hat stop being sold? i got one but its bent and i need to roll it with a lint roller lol
@@tuser8 yea, i could probably just bend it back into place. i swore that it was being sold like a year ago though... maybe my sense of time is skewed. I have the vinyl too, that's how i got it
"I was a victim of magic apollo catching my breath as i bleed on the ground somebody called me to follow i followed"
I love the harmonies in this version, the normal vocals with all the voices sounds _so_ good
0:17
1:12
2:37
3:40
Bro really turned into Elvis Presley 💀(not hate I love this demo!)
I honestly like the demo better than the normal one
same lol
i feel like the album version is a sort of comfort song, while this is a story about a narcissistic man believing he is being hurt by everyone around him and that he is an isle unto himself. also i like this more .)
Dude I think you described it perfectly
Honestly i prefer this version more than the final version, just if it had higher production value it would've been like genuinely something I wish would've been in the final album
I enjoy this one more than the regular one
maybe we WILL tango tomorrow!
Nice pfp
Hey! I've seen your comments on a bunch of Lemon Demon songs. You have excellent taste in music.
Oh I see you everywhere
@@invadercivic2774 Me too, and i agree :)
lemon moment
1:34 THIS PARTTT NGHHHH
I LOVE HOW AT THE VERY END ITS A MUFFLED PLAYBACK OF ONE PART OF THE SONG
why does it sound like if isle unto thyself was fruity 🤨🤨🤨
Real😊
i have a crush on this song
I turned into you in the final version, just like murders where I turned into he. just thought that was interesting
I think its because all of the album is taking place in the past from the perspective of the singer of the "Windy Songs" that open and close the album
In murders, it changes back in the last line like it’s just revealed that it’s about the singer at the end
This is a surreal experience
How much inflection and tone can change things
The more Hawaiian vibes is interesting and I kinda wish we got more of it in the final album
WHY IS THIS SUCH A BANGER NO MATTER WHAT 💥💥💥💥 (Isle Unto Thyself is my favorite as well as Dream Sweet in Sea Major)
It's clear that they made this song from mostly if not all first person to mostly second person as someone talking about someone else instead of themself which actually is kind of a theme with Miracle Musical vs. Tally Hall
Miracle Musical tended to have this second person point of view because the music is written from an outsiders point of view while Tally Hall sounds like first person because it's heavily written in a way where It's the firsthand account of someone who was directly affected
I probably sound insane but whatever 💀
Maybe your insane because you killed your girlfriend and pleaded insanity so you got electric shock therapy and then actually became insane. Just a theory…
@@tabwall think of these thoughts as limitless light
@@kuro-the-sillyexposing closing circuitry of fright
1:35 EVERYTIME I LISTEN TO PART LITERAL CHILLS!!!! IM ASCENDING RN
1:37 I said this on another video of these songs but I need to say it on the original song, and its that this part REALLY sounds like a regular tally hall song.
I like the tone of Joe's voice and the music of this version more but I like the lyrics and the fluidity of the final version. Too bad I can't combine them
Si algun dia tengo un hijo le voy a ponerle isle unto thyself (demo) by miracle musical from hawaii part ii part ii
He changed "I" to "You" and and he did that with Murders too
ye wont see so far
I like to think Hawaii part II was intentioned to be another album from tally hall, the called 3rd album. But as Time passed by the project was passed to another band
Kinda.
Joe Hawley, who kinda lead the idea, went on to make this after Tally Hall because he had the means to do so. He had known he wanted a project like this for years earlier, and suppose he just found his chance.
Source: an interview with him in 2019 (ua-cam.com/video/pGZE4nYci7U/v-deo.html)
amo este album
La tiró☝️☝️
também
1:37 3:02 las mejores, en mi opinión
My mind in a test
Brilliance!!!
xoxo The Clarences
1:31 this part specifically makes me go to heaven
Joes voice is so *CRISPY* here
to the people around my house:
rip neighbors, just kidding, i dont care. enjoy the songs while you can
Why am I just now finding these.
T-T
The yummy little pixely bit is so good omd
3:02 best part in my opinion
wish they kept the third chorus.
1:25 i like the weeo weio weeo part here I cant remember what its called
Synth
0:56 bup bup bup
This is my manifesto
1:36 to 1:50 is so good
I like this better than the other version
1:38 & 3:02 are so
hawaii partii 🎉
i think i like the final better than this. it gives the questioning lyrics more of a questioning tone to them and i think the change from "i" to "you" was for the best
also "i was a victim of magic apollo" is strangely distant in the final, whereas here its just... there.
the instruments i just feel are more flat, i guess they added a little echo in the final.
also the final few lyrics having a slower and quieter pace makes them feel more eerie, which i love. but i do like the echo of the song's chorus at the end.
Island for myself
me when im a fish man
this is a prophecy!
cymunn ponirr????????
is really weird how in this demo simon talk about him being an island whit his gf and not she being cold whit him, is such a big change actually
ONE OF MY FAVORITE DEMOS OF MY FAVORITE H:PII SONG
This is disturbingly different.
It also sounds like its from Mario 64
Omg he sounds so snobby in this version
1:31 my fav part
i like this one more
I was a victim of magic Apollo
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
i love this song so much tiurhfhhdhd
isle unto myself
Guh this is so yummy
isle unto myself real
so good
We were robbed
BLIND THE SHINING STARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
YOUU WONT SEEE SO FAAAAAAAARRRR
I actually like this a bit more
This song did get a glow up when finalized fs
WHAT THE FUCK THIS GOES HARD
ey WUZ a victim of majic Apollo catching my breath as I blEd on the grOUnd 🤠
❤
1:37
Such a shame that drum part wasn’t in the final version
1:37 I LOVE THIS PART OH MY GOD AHHSHSHSJSHAHAHAHSHSHHAHAH edit: I LOVE 3:05 SO MUCH AS WELL
i was a victim of magic apollo catching my breath as i bled on the ground ^_^