at 8:34 he pressed Tab to scout for Neeko... if shes in the wave she doesnt have the "?" when you check the scoreboard... thats how he knew (Pinning this since a lot of ppl have been asking)
Call me dog shit but wasn't 4:15 kind of Nems fault for walking so close for a couple more AA's? renek was able to Q him without even needing to dash or walk forward...
An extended trade there was silly. He is under turret with renekton who got full conq stacks and nemesis didnt back up after that, resulting in his death. Shiz happens when u play for so long tho, ur bound to play on autopilot and make mistakes. Renek is one of the strongest early game duelists and he didnt respect that.
it amazes me how this champion just dont do damage unless youre like 20/0 full build and 5 levels ahead the enemy team at 13:40 she almost didnt kill a zed 1 level behind with 3/4 of his health and with no mr, jesus.
@@realmoneymack4578 even so, i do think that almost any mage with that amount of ap would easily kill it, its 200 ap with magic pen boots thats a lot, maybe her base damage is just awful
Thats true, I am lisandra main from master tier, and she really doesnt have dmg to oneshot enemies, even when slighty ahead in items. She needs to colaborate with teammates to make best use of her and her passive. thats propably coz she has so many cc's it have to be balanced like that
Honestly, roaming supports is great and adds a lot of fun player autonomy, but the game action economy needs to be changed if they want to leave it as is. League just doesn't have the tools and mechanics a game like DotA does that allows for supports to constantly be moving around the map and everyone still have a fun game experience.
Really thoughtful post. I agree that roaming supports definitely adds to the game in a (mostly) positive manner. Can you tell me what 'game action economy' means in this context and in general? I don't quite understand what that means.
@@brianshark7338 Game action economy is my interpretation of action economy, from tabletop games, applied to competitive games. Essentially, in any given scenario you have unlimited options for choices to make but there is an absolute best and absolute worst along a bell curve, and there is a finite amount of moments you make these choices per game; on average people will just do whatever they want with no gain or loss, the worst will make an absolute blunder, and the best will capitalize and punish. It's a bit of an abstraction to help simplify decision making in complex games. The problem League has with roaming supports is the game economy is so skewed to benefit roaming since there is no meaningful way to punish or react without pre-emptively roaming your own support or hoping that others will listen to you. It is either that or give up massive resources for naught. In DotA if the support roams, diving is much easier, and the towers die if you end up in a lane you can't defend well; the carry or priority laner can move to the jungle and farm/stack camps, get vision control to keep yourself safe, pull creeps to fix your wave, ask someone to teleport, etc.. In League, engage support just hits level 2-3 and wanders around the map with no real counter. Most champions can't deal with that large of a disruption, especially with laning so volatile; get dove on a 3 wave crash and be behind 3 levels forever, or get cs starved from a freeze, you can no longer play the game. You NEED someone else to interfere to continue participating in the game in a meaningful way. In a team based MOBA that only allows Solo/Duo for ladder, I personally think it's a detriment. There needs to be a distinct manner in which you can punish, as a bot laner, someone crashing 1-2 waves and just running around the map. Whether it is lowering the defensive buff of plates such that there's an incentive to defend the tower earlier, reducing general mobility from items/runes, I do not know since I am unsure of all the variables. Mind you, I do not mean that supports should never leave the lane, of course it should be possible to gather for skirmishes with the jungler or for objectives, but it currently feels like if you get a small tempo advantage on a roam you can stay out on the map as a support running between lanes with no consequence at worst, and somehow single-handedly win the game in best case.
@@brianshark7338 "definitely adds to the game in a (mostly) positive manner" Adds 10 times more random, annoying scenarios and tilt in a competitive 5 v 5 game WITHOUT VOICE CHAT, where u actually cant communicate most of the time and even decide to skip grubs or not, ask ur supp will he come or he cant because specific matchup or need to fix wave. The result of this changes with supp items and grubs is very "fun" meta on midlane where ppl only play champions with dashes or something that avoid laning phase. (Because not only u have to track jungler nonstop, manage waves, keep in mind enemy cooldowns and trade back, now u have to also track enemy clown support 24 7, waste ur wards not against jungler, click botlane every single wave and even all of that most of the time doesnt help against pyke lane gank, hexflash under tower from alistar or stupid rell combo with flash that is as hard to avoid as 2nd akali r. ) What is exact counterplay to this as a midlaner right now btw ? Lets say we playing syndra/orianna against akali, yone. Classic 0 2 1 or smth like that lvl 3-4 alistar inted botlane enough, failed some trades and now he wanna hexflash spam gank midlane. At first u dont have escape and alistar is happy to press combo and die under tower, u most likely die and lose wave meanwhile he loses NOTHING, he is the same champion even after 0 10 that press combo and use r, he will still be viable all the game anyway and tanky enough to not die in most situations, in term of macro yep maybe enemy support will do the same and also dive botlane, but ur game will be most likely destroyed and noone knows how it affect this game, also most of the time esp on lower elos ur enchanter support will do nothing in return. At second riot deleted option to buy wards and u have no options at all if he sweeper ur ward and kill ur pinkward. Not only this shit ruine midlane as a role and force ppl to play yasuo yone zed kata lb sylas in 50 percent games already ( imagine this number, HALF games we have same champions and most of them 49-50 wr ), this also tilt adc players, because they dont know what to pick at first, u never know when ur supp will leave botlane for the rest of the game and u was picking ashe just to bully lane with rell right, they got dived by some junglers with no counterplay, they tilt, leave lane and run mid etc. Nobody was asking for this, nobody is having fun dealing with this, nobody love this random fiesta created by supports that literally become second jungler. Literally only 10 percent cringe roamers on support role is having real fun out this and tons of free lp.
there is also always either 1 cannon 3 melee 3 casters or no cannon 3 melee 3 casters because it was a new wave and there were 4 melee minions it was obvs neeko
Support is for iPad babies, lowest attention span people who don’t like farming and who just wanna run around doing random shit without any secere consequences
at 8:34 he pressed Tab to scout for Neeko... if shes in the wave she doesnt have the "?" when you check the scoreboard... thats how he knew (Pinning this since a lot of ppl have been asking)
Day 3 of asking for Morgana mid :3
Yessss I love a midgana game
Bruh like
Morg mid
Most boring uninteractive shit ever
+ smiley was really unnecessary
Yeh not gonna hapend 😂
request on stream, otherwise chances are he wont see it
8:34 this was sooo impressive
4 melee minions, easy to spot
@@idyllsend6481 no but he called it when only first 2 melees were seen out of fog
try use tab to check neeko
@@paweu_6322 how did he know? distance between the minions?
If he knows by memory the time of the wave arrival, that's pretty impressive
@@TyrantRC823 he knows its Neeko because when he presses Tab, it shows Neeko as being visible instead of greyed out
Second death was so hard to watch
And then he blames his team………. Dogshit
Call me dog shit but wasn't 4:15 kind of Nems fault for walking so close for a couple more AA's? renek was able to Q him without even needing to dash or walk forward...
yes he doesn't know the champ matchup
An extended trade there was silly. He is under turret with renekton who got full conq stacks and nemesis didnt back up after that, resulting in his death. Shiz happens when u play for so long tho, ur bound to play on autopilot and make mistakes. Renek is one of the strongest early game duelists and he didnt respect that.
@@Siigrit sooo an extended trade was there but because renek is a strong early game a extended trade wasnt there...? which is it silly.
@@Drunk0nCustard Read it back because it is pretty clear what he's saying.
@@deafdanny6299 thanks deafdanny6299 im sure this helped you dribble abit extra today!
it amazes me how this champion just dont do damage unless youre like 20/0 full build and 5 levels ahead the enemy team at 13:40 she almost didnt kill a zed 1 level behind with 3/4 of his health and with no mr, jesus.
he didnt build for it. he builds malignance or ludens zedd is dead before his ult ends.
@@realmoneymack4578 even so, i do think that almost any mage with that amount of ap would easily kill it, its 200 ap with magic pen boots thats a lot, maybe her base damage is just awful
i mean he only had one completed item, and his e wasnt used for dmg, so he had to wait for second q.
@@shuttlexqw yeah probably its a shame that her kit is too strong and they need to gut her damage tho, love this champ
Thats true, I am lisandra main from master tier, and she really doesnt have dmg to oneshot enemies, even when slighty ahead in items. She needs to colaborate with teammates to make best use of her and her passive. thats propably coz she has so many cc's it have to be balanced like that
Do you use CSlol for the Korean font? I can’t seem to find a download anywhere
Hello, can you tell me the name of your LOL client's lanuage ? I love the font
how does nemesis have the korean font for gold and numbers?
Honestly, roaming supports is great and adds a lot of fun player autonomy, but the game action economy needs to be changed if they want to leave it as is. League just doesn't have the tools and mechanics a game like DotA does that allows for supports to constantly be moving around the map and everyone still have a fun game experience.
Really thoughtful post. I agree that roaming supports definitely adds to the game in a (mostly) positive manner. Can you tell me what 'game action economy' means in this context and in general? I don't quite understand what that means.
@@brianshark7338 Game action economy is my interpretation of action economy, from tabletop games, applied to competitive games. Essentially, in any given scenario you have unlimited options for choices to make but there is an absolute best and absolute worst along a bell curve, and there is a finite amount of moments you make these choices per game; on average people will just do whatever they want with no gain or loss, the worst will make an absolute blunder, and the best will capitalize and punish. It's a bit of an abstraction to help simplify decision making in complex games.
The problem League has with roaming supports is the game economy is so skewed to benefit roaming since there is no meaningful way to punish or react without pre-emptively roaming your own support or hoping that others will listen to you. It is either that or give up massive resources for naught. In DotA if the support roams, diving is much easier, and the towers die if you end up in a lane you can't defend well; the carry or priority laner can move to the jungle and farm/stack camps, get vision control to keep yourself safe, pull creeps to fix your wave, ask someone to teleport, etc.. In League, engage support just hits level 2-3 and wanders around the map with no real counter. Most champions can't deal with that large of a disruption, especially with laning so volatile; get dove on a 3 wave crash and be behind 3 levels forever, or get cs starved from a freeze, you can no longer play the game. You NEED someone else to interfere to continue participating in the game in a meaningful way. In a team based MOBA that only allows Solo/Duo for ladder, I personally think it's a detriment. There needs to be a distinct manner in which you can punish, as a bot laner, someone crashing 1-2 waves and just running around the map. Whether it is lowering the defensive buff of plates such that there's an incentive to defend the tower earlier, reducing general mobility from items/runes, I do not know since I am unsure of all the variables. Mind you, I do not mean that supports should never leave the lane, of course it should be possible to gather for skirmishes with the jungler or for objectives, but it currently feels like if you get a small tempo advantage on a roam you can stay out on the map as a support running between lanes with no consequence at worst, and somehow single-handedly win the game in best case.
@@brianshark7338 "definitely adds to the game in a (mostly) positive manner" Adds 10 times more random, annoying scenarios and tilt in a competitive 5 v 5 game WITHOUT VOICE CHAT, where u actually cant communicate most of the time and even decide to skip grubs or not, ask ur supp will he come or he cant because specific matchup or need to fix wave. The result of this changes with supp items and grubs is very "fun" meta on midlane where ppl only play champions with dashes or something that avoid laning phase. (Because not only u have to track jungler nonstop, manage waves, keep in mind enemy cooldowns and trade back, now u have to also track enemy clown support 24 7, waste ur wards not against jungler, click botlane every single wave and even all of that most of the time doesnt help against pyke lane gank, hexflash under tower from alistar or stupid rell combo with flash that is as hard to avoid as 2nd akali r. )
What is exact counterplay to this as a midlaner right now btw ? Lets say we playing syndra/orianna against akali, yone. Classic 0 2 1 or smth like that lvl 3-4 alistar inted botlane enough, failed some trades and now he wanna hexflash spam gank midlane. At first u dont have escape and alistar is happy to press combo and die under tower, u most likely die and lose wave meanwhile he loses NOTHING, he is the same champion even after 0 10 that press combo and use r, he will still be viable all the game anyway and tanky enough to not die in most situations, in term of macro yep maybe enemy support will do the same and also dive botlane, but ur game will be most likely destroyed and noone knows how it affect this game, also most of the time esp on lower elos ur enchanter support will do nothing in return. At second riot deleted option to buy wards and u have no options at all if he sweeper ur ward and kill ur pinkward.
Not only this shit ruine midlane as a role and force ppl to play yasuo yone zed kata lb sylas in 50 percent games already ( imagine this number, HALF games we have same champions and most of them 49-50 wr ), this also tilt adc players, because they dont know what to pick at first, u never know when ur supp will leave botlane for the rest of the game and u was picking ashe just to bully lane with rell right, they got dived by some junglers with no counterplay, they tilt, leave lane and run mid etc.
Nobody was asking for this, nobody is having fun dealing with this, nobody love this random fiesta created by supports that literally become second jungler. Literally only 10 percent cringe roamers on support role is having real fun out this and tons of free lp.
Does Korean font still work? If so how do you get it
14:35 nope he got it +1
Your gameplay is so relaxing, you make it look too easy sometimes.
How Is he Always against Zed?!
I hope lissandra becomes meta but not in pro play in any way.
More Liss pls
How did u know its Neeko at 8:30
when you press tab you can see her in vision without her showing anywhere on the map -editor
there is also always either 1 cannon 3 melee 3 casters or no cannon 3 melee 3 casters because it was a new wave and there were 4 melee minions it was obvs neeko
@@olafjambor5449he realized after seeing just one minion so..
where is micky the cat?
aaand she got nerfed
poggers
Abomination champ
useless a.f.
Mom im first
Mom get the camera!!
Lissandra is not your champion and all you do is complain
People like you are insufferable 💀 commenting to complain…about a guy who allegedly complains? Ironic no? Mad over pixels on a screen is crazy icl
smurfing as challenger in master trash elo and saying liss in OP idk if this is the way to go buddy
dont watch the latest video on the main channel! almost a good comment -editor
2015 ass thumbnail
explain
Support is for iPad babies, lowest attention span people who don’t like farming and who just wanna run around doing random shit without any secere consequences
If you play her again pls turn down her voice volume cant stand hesring her suffering for 20 min straight
stop spamming tab 5 times within 2 seconds omfg
wtf is that insta neeko guess
when you press tab you can see her in vision without her showing anywhere on the map -editor