Just in case you don't know - Reaper already (for half of year I guess) has an delta-funsion that show you only what plugin add or remove from sound, so you can (kind of) solo the FX. Just hold the Alt and press mix knob in up/right corner.
The scientific nerd-bro way to explain this plugin, is that it is a subharmonic generator combined with a high frequency exciter that actually uses added noise instead of wave clipping the higher frequencies. There are provisions to adjust the shape [envelope] of the trigger so you can fade in and increase the tail. The added noise can extend the sound such that it feels like early reflections from a reverb. K that's my story k bye.
I felt pretty happy after hearing that insanely clean sub energy the plugin generated. I first heard of Klevgrwnd on iOS. They’ve always had some interesting designs. I still use the Pipa plugin every now and again for sound design. It’s just synthesized vocal selections. But it’s has a unique sound.
Noise and snare drums go hand in hand. Noise can an effective way of snare drum synthesis, as used by certain classic drum computers but also by 8 bit video game sound chips. The noise generator on them is often used for creating rhythm elements. I think I once saw a sound design tip (that may have been dr. Mix, I can’t exactly remember) where some white noise was added to a recording of a snare drum to add a bit of extra flavour to the sound. A lot of minimalistic electro music like Kraftwerk use noise generators to simulate snare drums.
I own both and I agree but Fosfat is a bit easier to setup, and I’m not sure it doesn’t have something under the hood because it does sound sweet. At the least it’s thought out and tailored really well for drums.
Love Klevgrand!! 💙......they make some of the most unique and useful plugins out there! 😉👍 I got this last week and I'm still trying to get a handle on it. Kind of a new take on an old technique.
if you have a daw with an envelope follower modulator (like bitwig), you can easily buid this with any synth (lets say phase plant would be great but really almost any). this video was great nonetheless, as it gave me a new idea of how to add energy to drum loops. update1: i have to amend my comment right away: its not easy LOL. First off you have to use a second lane, secondly you will need to also have midi triggers (have to think about this some more, if this is avoidable), then you have to figure out the proper envelope follower settings, oscillator shapes, levels, ar sweet spots and same for noise. Its a nice excercize tho and I think once you got down what works itll be alot more flexible (just save your own sweetener as a preset device chain). update2 (lol): okay it is very easy to build this but i needed to use bitwigs fx grid. it will be some work figuring out layering what exactly will work. so i give a tentative thumbs up to fosfat for saving time. if you have a sth. like bitwigs grid, id definitely say its worth experimenting with enveloper follower based sound layering on drum loops yourself tho 👍. update 3: okay im done replicating fosfat. it sounds imho almost exactly the same with my grid device. took me about 40 minutes to build. i also added free parallel saturation as it fits the same purpose anyway and can be turned off. i literally replicated everything with more flexiblity, just omitting the chance. Basically looks like this if anyone wants to save some time: imgur.com/a/SfItQ76. All those mixer devices can be replace by amplitude devices and there are probably other improvements to be made, i havent really used the grid before. (the envelopes trigger the first mixers volume, the second mixer is to set the overall level for noise/sine independantly).
I feel like you should sometimes look through the presets to get some ideas of what the plugin can do. It's not always necessary, but sometimes I feel it can help explaining what the settings do and how they correlate to each other.
Back to our unfinished discussion...a think with this title you found the holy grail...no...better analogy, in this case, is: You squared the circle. Made me smile so much! (!)
Fosfat looks like a really cool plugin. Really. I almost want to buy it, actulally. But i already have a sick tool for this kind of job: "Texture" from Devious Machines. It's a must imo. (very cheap for such a beast imo) It offers so much amazing features and options. The VST also have his own sound bank of textures/noizes/ambiances/whatever built in, and you can even use your own wav files. And much more. It's a neat one 👌
2004 ~ "vintage" ??? LOL But when I think about it: When I was 20, the 60's where so damned vintage, as the 90's are for the 20 year old today... strange how realtiv this whole concept of "time" is...
Limitations FTW. Whether thats the DAW, the Plug in, your Music skill set..... ect... Theres no magic music maker, but for so many, they believe there is... and forever may you keep searching for your answer. I wish you all the best. Happiness to all audio/engineering/music/composer brethren
Great video brother this plugin reminds me of a more customizable version of that MAAT plugin you reviewed not too long ago that adds subtle noise behind your sound
I would use this for sure. The oscillator reminds me of Lowender but with more control and the noise section sort of sounds like Neutron's exciter where you can control the tone of the "noise" the exciter adds.
If you're using Ableton, the "Wide Noise" setting on the Erosion effect does something similar to what the added noise of this plugin sounded like. Can give you that airy fizzle up top, really nice.
I would like to think that Klevgrand started up when some Softube employees got into an argument about whose turn it was to provide fika that day. ;) I have a lot of their plugins and I really like the GUIs. The kids in school like them too as they're intuitive and colourful.
my guess is its using FFT and then use the the spectral sheet of the analyzed music sample each frame to add noise to "fill" whats missing, and then uses a time-domain transient shaper/compression algoritm to shape the filtered noise.
Don't have ableton or reaper, will def buy it tomorrow. Hope price doesn't go up... Really like how it impacted sound in general from your demo, added such interesting textures to it.
I love these folks products, but I think I can do most of this with Ableton Vocoder - which is insanely powerful for atypical vocoder tasks - like added sparkle to hats and percs, introducing textures into source material etc. Don't want to take away from this product, and definitely not snake oil but I passed on this one. If you don't own Albeton then it's a solid buy.
Actually this video made me tinker with shaperbox some more... Now I need to upload some custom low frequency noises just to test how does it stand against this plug. Wish cableguys would add pitch option for noiseshaper...
Was hearing my snake oil alarms at the start but in the end it was a simple good tool for the box… producing and mixing. Will add this to the list now, thank you
Sub bass reinforcement plugins have been around for a over a decade. Nothing new. Ableton's drum buss includes it. Noise reinforcement has been trending for a while. Cableguys offer the best so far. It's nice to have both in one but you can't select a custom noise file or sub bass sample. I guess you can't complain for the low price though. FYI this kinda felt like an advert.
Just in case you don't know - Reaper already (for half of year I guess) has an delta-funsion that show you only what plugin add or remove from sound, so you can (kind of) solo the FX. Just hold the Alt and press mix knob in up/right corner.
I know it, but I forget about it every single time 😂
Great feature to hear compression and distortion effects on a track
WHATTTTT
thank you for this ❤
I never read the change logs lmao
whaaat?
Okey, that's incredible!
The scientific nerd-bro way to explain this plugin, is that it is a subharmonic generator combined with a high frequency exciter that actually uses added noise instead of wave clipping the higher frequencies. There are provisions to adjust the shape [envelope] of the trigger so you can fade in and increase the tail. The added noise can extend the sound such that it feels like early reflections from a reverb. K that's my story k bye.
i hate that i understand that. now i feel like a nerd.
I felt pretty happy after hearing that insanely clean sub energy the plugin generated. I first heard of Klevgrwnd on iOS. They’ve always had some interesting designs. I still use the Pipa plugin every now and again for sound design. It’s just synthesized vocal selections. But it’s has a unique sound.
Noise and snare drums go hand in hand. Noise can an effective way of snare drum synthesis, as used by certain classic drum computers but also by 8 bit video game sound chips. The noise generator on them is often used for creating rhythm elements. I think I once saw a sound design tip (that may have been dr. Mix, I can’t exactly remember) where some white noise was added to a recording of a snare drum to add a bit of extra flavour to the sound. A lot of minimalistic electro music like Kraftwerk use noise generators to simulate snare drums.
You guys should try Cableguys Shaperbox 2, especially the Noise module.
It's phenomenal imho and does pretty much what was shown here in this video.
I own both and I agree but Fosfat is a bit easier to setup, and I’m not sure it doesn’t have something under the hood because it does sound sweet. At the least it’s thought out and tailored really well for drums.
Love Klevgrand!! 💙......they make some of the most unique and useful plugins out there! 😉👍
I got this last week and I'm still trying to get a handle on it. Kind of a new take on an old technique.
if you have a daw with an envelope follower modulator (like bitwig), you can easily buid this with any synth (lets say phase plant would be great but really almost any). this video was great nonetheless, as it gave me a new idea of how to add energy to drum loops.
update1: i have to amend my comment right away: its not easy LOL. First off you have to use a second lane, secondly you will need to also have midi triggers (have to think about this some more, if this is avoidable), then you have to figure out the proper envelope follower settings, oscillator shapes, levels, ar sweet spots and same for noise. Its a nice excercize tho and I think once you got down what works itll be alot more flexible (just save your own sweetener as a preset device chain).
update2 (lol): okay it is very easy to build this but i needed to use bitwigs fx grid. it will be some work figuring out layering what exactly will work. so i give a tentative thumbs up to fosfat for saving time. if you have a sth. like bitwigs grid, id definitely say its worth experimenting with enveloper follower based sound layering on drum loops yourself tho 👍.
update 3: okay im done replicating fosfat. it sounds imho almost exactly the same with my grid device. took me about 40 minutes to build. i also added free parallel saturation as it fits the same purpose anyway and can be turned off. i literally replicated everything with more flexiblity, just omitting the chance. Basically looks like this if anyone wants to save some time: imgur.com/a/SfItQ76. All those mixer devices can be replace by amplitude devices and there are probably other improvements to be made, i havent really used the grid before. (the envelopes trigger the first mixers volume, the second mixer is to set the overall level for noise/sine independantly).
That reverb noise trick is something i do a lot with vocoders. The stock vocoder from ableton for example
I feel like you should sometimes look through the presets to get some ideas of what the plugin can do. It's not always necessary, but sometimes I feel it can help explaining what the settings do and how they correlate to each other.
I love the interface-design. The Beat is taken from the track "Rude Winds" by the artist called "Sandy Pants".
Might have to get this. I love Ting by this company too……very unique and innovative drum sounds
I always buy their plugins as soon as they announce a new one, very nice plugins and always with intro sales.
That track is awesome: I can’t get enough of Sandstorm!
Been enjoying this plug too - incredibly useful tool! Love the nails too!
lol
Fantastic video…the best part of the video is when i saw your amazing green and pink nails, i love it 😍
Gongratz with your new gear. Always nice to have a new unit to use😁
Back to our unfinished discussion...a think with this title you found the holy grail...no...better analogy, in this case, is: You squared the circle. Made me smile so much! (!)
Fosfat looks like a really cool plugin. Really. I almost want to buy it, actulally. But i already have a sick tool for this kind of job:
"Texture" from Devious Machines. It's a must imo. (very cheap for such a beast imo)
It offers so much amazing features and options. The VST also have his own sound bank of textures/noizes/ambiances/whatever built in, and you can even use your own wav files. And much more. It's a neat one 👌
Love Texture! Makes it very crisp!
This is super cool. Can think of so many uses for this in all my productions. Great video - grabbing it now
That sounded really good! Would've liked to hear what it does to some different sources though
2004 ~ "vintage" ??? LOL But when I think about it: When I was 20, the 60's where so damned vintage, as the 90's are for the 20 year old today... strange how realtiv this whole concept of "time" is...
Limitations FTW. Whether thats the DAW, the Plug in, your Music skill set..... ect...
Theres no magic music maker, but for so many, they believe there is... and forever may you keep searching for your answer.
I wish you all the best.
Happiness to all audio/engineering/music/composer brethren
there actually is magix music maker, it's awful but it exists
@@yesthisisdonut Band in a Box . ;)
Imagine how much they could have sold if it was still on sale....hope I remember to check back...
Thanks!
the drums are from Darude - Sandstorm (disco mix)
OK.....UPDATE. I get why you colored you fingernails. Cool Idea. Your fingers are color-coded to Ableton. I might try it with my keyboard too.
Great video brother this plugin reminds me of a more customizable version of that MAAT plugin you reviewed not too long ago that adds subtle noise behind your sound
I would use this for sure. The oscillator reminds me of Lowender but with more control and the noise section sort of sounds like Neutron's exciter where you can control the tone of the "noise" the exciter adds.
Nice find, bought it. Awesome plugin!
If you're using Ableton, the "Wide Noise" setting on the Erosion effect does something similar to what the added noise of this plugin sounded like. Can give you that airy fizzle up top, really nice.
Yeah its a good one
I would like to think that Klevgrand started up when some Softube employees got into an argument about whose turn it was to provide fika that day. ;)
I have a lot of their plugins and I really like the GUIs.
The kids in school like them too as they're intuitive and colourful.
the noise thing could be great on hihats to create an aditional rythmic layer
Yeah! You could try to use Fosfat with the Waves Vitamin, to see if it's necessary. 😉
Klevgrand makes 🔥🔥🔥🔥 plugins
Very cool!👍I wonder what magic sounds George could make with this ;)
Amazing video as always,... but can help wondering how amazing is would have sounded on Sandstorm 🤔
Sandstorm never felt so good.
Good plugins like these are the kinds you just put it on when you need flavour and live it there, delicious 😋🤤.
Their plugs are fantastic.
my guess is its using FFT and then use the the spectral sheet of the analyzed music sample each frame to add noise to "fill" whats missing, and then uses a time-domain transient shaper/compression algoritm to shape the filtered noise.
Drums are 'Play that funky music (B side of Sandstorm by Der Rude)
It’s the drums from the song Grusblåst by The Rudes.
Don't have ableton or reaper, will def buy it tomorrow. Hope price doesn't go up... Really like how it impacted sound in general from your demo, added such interesting textures to it.
They are always having great names for their plugins. Phosphates as nutrients for the nutrient deficient mix. 😉
Like the nails 💪💪💪💪
3:36: Now we are talking punch! But thats the recording, right?
looks really cool! i like
The drum is from the track Darude - Sandstorm
I love these folks products, but I think I can do most of this with Ableton Vocoder - which is insanely powerful for atypical vocoder tasks - like added sparkle to hats and percs, introducing textures into source material etc. Don't want to take away from this product, and definitely not snake oil but I passed on this one. If you don't own Albeton then it's a solid buy.
Sometimes workflow, hell, even writing music, isnt about just plugins.
Erosion too
So much for the tchk, but whatabout the ptzboom?
cableguys shaperbox 2 can do the same but you can import your own samples and you can choose from a big library already :)
what's the color scheme of the day? I would have thought county Mayo but the green would be darker...
I think a solo would ruin the psychoacoustic effect which probably only applies in context.
I do this with noiseshaper from cableguys. It doesn’t have an oscillator but you can add a sine wave sample and get the same results
Actually this video made me tinker with shaperbox some more... Now I need to upload some custom low frequency noises just to test how does it stand against this plug. Wish cableguys would add pitch option for noiseshaper...
The song is sandstorm by daroot
Bypass button?
Voxengo Shumovick is very good for doing the noise thing
😢 2004 is considered vintage. 2004 was yesterday 🥺
Actually love this thing
Check Voxengo Shumovick - it is the wildest noise effect - it doesn't just throw white noise but it shapes it
Heads up: Klevgrand has a 29 h slash sale atm. All plugins 29 usd.
That pitch drop is exacly what I need, any similar free plugin out there?
Drum track from *Wishing Well* by Terrence Trent Darby??
Cool concept but nothing you can't do with reaper native's plugins. Slap by Yum Audio and Mr. Bill looks way more advanced.
me likes a good umpf! makes my sandstorm really happy! darude too!
Could you please review leapwing plugins? they are totally snake oil!
devious machines -Texture more intuitive GUI as well
Wow that company has quite of few great plugins
Zou het van branden zand van Anneke Grönloh kunnen zijn, gave plugin. Ga zeker kijken!
Drums taken from "Pass The Dutchie" by Musical Youth......i think...🤔
Was hearing my snake oil alarms at the start but in the end it was a simple good tool for the box… producing and mixing.
Will add this to the list now, thank you
Heh. The price is back up to $40 clams. It's on my radar I guess!
I like how they double down on their strange Swedish naming convention.
That cowbell is driving me mental lol
I actually wanted more cowbell…
@@Whiteseastudio I only want more of…you.
The concept is nice, but the pluggin is not well disigned
sandstorm (samba mix) - it's the only mix with cowbell isn't it?
I love noise on my snares.
_"while you're down below let me know what you think of this plugin"_
: o
I'm old if 2004 is vintage! Lol
its similar to Soundradix's Drum leveler but cheaper and better
it's literally just adding layers of processed white noise to peaks in an audio source
Isn't this The Decider by Lasse Lyx?
its the drums from darude by sandstorm
was going to say Sandstorm by Darude...
Obviously this time you get paid! Remember, youtube obliges you to said that is promotional conent in your videos!
George Michael "Too Funky" ;)
yes the waves vitamin has good nutrition !lol
Darude - Sandstorm. Obviously! 🧐
Sandstorm is my *favorite* Darude song!
Drum track from the movie 127 hours.
Drum track from Darude - "sandstorm"
cool
Freedom??
The drum track sounds very much like George Michael - Too Funky :)
Sounds a bit like "Dirt-icane" by... DahROOD?
I know the drums are from sandstorm obviously but... "everybody knows what a transient designer is". Do we? I have honestly no idea.
Lol I Use Waves Vitamin all the time to fix my Deficiencies! lol, for reals!
But I thought adding too much bass makes things booooooooomy
DaDude - Manstorm
🤣
My G what's up with your nails?
Aren't they cool? ❤
Sub bass reinforcement plugins have been around for a over a decade. Nothing new. Ableton's drum buss includes it. Noise reinforcement has been trending for a while. Cableguys offer the best so far. It's nice to have both in one but you can't select a custom noise file or sub bass sample. I guess you can't complain for the low price though. FYI this kinda felt like an advert.
$14,99 right now