I have this rod (7’1”MF) and the 7’3”MXF. The 7’3” XF has a noticeably softer tip section and noticeably stiffer backbone. They are both very well balanced with a 4000 Tatula LT, the balance point is up on the cork. I like to fish jerk baits on spinning rods and the 7’1” casts a Vision 110 a mile and has the right bend for trebles. Love it for this. Great rods. Try the new Expride B 7’ Light for Drop Shots and Ned’s, it’s a gem….should be rated ML.
If you're fishing from a boat, I would highly recommend their 6'6 medium fast legend tournament walleye rod. It's much stiffer than the whimpier longer rods they make. Feels like a Gloomis bass rod and at least on par with an IMX in quality. Fantastic caster for its size. I easily get 25-30 yards on it using a 3/16 jig head and a 4 inch plastic. Firm, locks up the top 1/3rd of the rod and highly sensitive.
Another solid review. I have the 7'3" Victory spinning and it is starting to split near the tip, almost like the back cast caused it. Was considering upgrading to the LTB when I send it in. I also held one of the new Expride B's and pretty sure that is the next rod I will be buying.
Hi , thank you for review !! I have the 6.8 foot medium x fast in walleye serie it's weight 103g = 3.63 oz with just 2 g more than the Legend Elite in the same size and action , I am very impresed with the quality and the castability of this rod.
Good review! As far as the Victory spinning rods I am getting ready to send back my 5th broken tip rod, they do replace them but it's getting old. I picked up a couple of the Legend Tournament Bass casting this winter but have not used them yet, but just in hand they feel like the Victory line like you mentioned but are a lot nicer looking. They offer an upgrade, I am going to try upgrading to the Legend 7'1''. Keep up the good videos' I enjoy your work!
I own 3 victory rods how did you even break the tips. You catching 10lb bass an have drag to tight. I foul hooked many carp over 20lbs on the ml 6 foot 10 victory rod
@@garrybattle8908 Right! I don't get it ether, I guess because I jumped on the first ones and they might have been the Covid produced ones, anyway they replace them but it so heart breaking and a PITA to send them back.
Great review ! I have that rod and really like it for a lot of things and mine is the incorrect spelling lol. I also have a 7’ MLF in the walleye series and it’s and amazing drop shot rod IMO. I’ve owned everything from the Triumph line to the Legend Elites but really like the Legend Tournament line so far. Can’t remember if you reviewed the Megabass Levante spinning rods but I have 2 and they’re awesome too.
You should review the 7’ MLF LTWS. I’m not sure how it compares for power, but it’s got a phenomenal action to it. I’d say it fishes more like a medium and has really good sensitivity. Fantastic ned rig rod.
I had no complaints one the older version medium 7ft, I’ve used all sorts of bait on it and put more weight then recommended probably close to 1 3/4 oz. Landed some 5-7 school or striped bass and some nice cat fish 10lb along with a few smaller pike 5-7lb range.
Was waiting for this one for ages. I was using an old LTB 7'1 Medium/Fast casting for senko's and free-rigs, but the balance drove me nuts, so I got impatient and sold it off and just went out and got an Orochi XX Shakyhead. How do these compare to the Orochi? From the sounds of it I don't think I made a mistake.
I love the softer tip blending into a stiffer midsection. I have orrochi and 2 expride. I like this rod as much but for different reasons. The light tip casts a lighter bait and feels it well but the stiffer mid allows you to lay some wood when needed.
Hey, Punch - I’ve been a sub to your channel for a hot minute, and was wondering if you would do a review on the St. Croix Legend Extreme casting rod? That has to be the sexiest rod of all time! For a rod to be $700…how does it fish? I enjoy your videos simply for the high-end price gear reviews. My max price point for rods is $250 so most of the rods you review are way over my budget.
I have the new 7’11 flip rod. Very nice but it can be used for more then just flipping and punching. I use mine for fishing off shore stuff big swimbaits on jig heads and scroungers very versatile rod for those off shore techniques.
Don't own an expride but I do own a bunch of legend tournament walleye rods which use the same components and blanks. GLoomis IMX closely compares to legend tournament. Gloomis GLX is higher tier, is more sensitive and much lighter in hand. This translates to it being balanced with a significantly lighter reel. For example, my legend walleye that's 6'6 medium needs 9 oz to balance perfectly. My 7'1 GLX needs 7.5-8. After a day of fishing, this makes a big difference.
Since you do a lot of St Croix stuff... A local dealer is doing sale on Legend Elite and Legend X... Is one rod better than the other? And the difference. Want a casting rod for weightless senko, fluke, etc. So not sure whether to get Med XF or MH F? Leaning towards the Legend X just by looks but have no experience with either.
Ah man, I went through 3 Victory rods before I upgraded to the LTB equivalent. Own 2 of them now and won't look back. Have the Pinpoint (swimbaits, texas rigs, shakey heads, jerkbaits) spinning and the Dropshot Finesse XL (smaller swimbaits, shakey heads, ned rigs, drop shots) spinning rods. Going to get the Warhorse (jigs and lipless) casting rod this season hopefully. Imo the LTB is leaps and bounds above the Victory series. My Victory was not nearly as sensitive as cheaper rods. The LTB sensitivity is exponentially better.
Any thoughts on a good neko rig rod? 872 nrx i know has been talked about but seems too stiff what i know since you need a little whip to get launch for distance? Windbuster, Baby Plugging, 852 nrx? Though I like the thought of a longer rod for more leverage. Lost a lot of fish on a necko with my Expride 7 med spinning.
@@PunchFishing Thanks! I saw that on your 22' spinning lineup. Saw a Hookup tackle video they couldn't get distance too well more with moving baits. I do pretty well in OH with the largemouth in spring early summer on a neko and finesse worms. Using 7 M Expride I had a lot jump off. Lost some nice ones. Thought that rod might be too soft though it slings lighter weights well with 10# braid. Tried different hooks but same results.
@@PunchFishing looking forward to it. MB needs to put you on the payroll. Already got a super destroyer and an xx perfect pitch from your videos and at least the p5 has blown me away.
Fishing in PFs boat... Co Angler: "I don't have my gear, mind if I use your Destroyers or NRXs?" PF: "Naw man sorry, but you can use one of my 'shitty' combo's. Take this Tourney/ Ballistic" 💀
The Expride level price point is about the best value then jump to an NRX or a Megabass Destroyer despite short fore grip. Curious also about a Steez too since the casting rods are pretty incredible also.
I picked up the 7'1" steez spinning rod last week and its pretty impressive. Its a little stiffer than expected but very functional. The black and red also matches a ballistic reel perfectly.
I’ve never broken a rod in my life while fishing. Grew up using cheap ugly sticks. Beat the crap out of them and they are still alive and kicking. My 3 month old Victory snapped above the handle while getting stuck in a little grass. It then continued to break into 4 or 5 pieces. I’m sure this was due to the integrity being compromised. It however was still super weird. After looking into this online some, there are quite a few people experiencing this same issue. I will say St. Croix’s customer service and warranty was fantastic. I took advantage of the opportunity to upgrade and went with the Legend Tournament Bass. Hopefully this series doesn’t have the same problem 🤞.
All I use is st croix Got some in avid Most are the legend extreme, and elite And they r stiffer than the real g Loomis not the shit Shimano Loomis crap,and all the St croix I have I got to go to the lighter action, so if I had old Loomis med fast I would have to get st croix Med mod for the same feel, Only thing is ,st croix doesn't hav a good dropshot Unfortunately I use a shitmano cumura dropshot rod, and hate the day it breaks cause I can't find another rod like it 4 the dropshot,
I said "shadow rap" when I mean't to say "shad rap". Small correction.
I have this rod (7’1”MF) and the 7’3”MXF. The 7’3” XF has a noticeably softer tip section and noticeably stiffer backbone. They are both very well balanced with a 4000 Tatula LT, the balance point is up on the cork. I like to fish jerk baits on spinning rods and the 7’1” casts a Vision 110 a mile and has the right bend for trebles. Love it for this. Great rods. Try the new Expride B 7’ Light for Drop Shots and Ned’s, it’s a gem….should be rated ML.
Please tell me which is more sensitive St. Croix Legend Tournament Bass Spinning 2022 or Shimano Expreide B?
Thank you for the review, we really like to hear what anglers are thinking. We are working to make our rods more versatile.
Pretty cool 👍
😂😂
not to mention the gorgeous blue. very pleasing rod
Thanks! Wish they would’ve came out with a ML or light in same action!
If you're fishing from a boat, I would highly recommend their 6'6 medium fast legend tournament walleye rod. It's much stiffer than the whimpier longer rods they make. Feels like a Gloomis bass rod and at least on par with an IMX in quality. Fantastic caster for its size. I easily get 25-30 yards on it using a 3/16 jig head and a 4 inch plastic. Firm, locks up the top 1/3rd of the rod and highly sensitive.
Best high end tackle analyst on the inter webs.
Another solid review. I have the 7'3" Victory spinning and it is starting to split near the tip, almost like the back cast caused it. Was considering upgrading to the LTB when I send it in. I also held one of the new Expride B's and pretty sure that is the next rod I will be buying.
Hi , thank you for review !! I have the 6.8 foot medium x fast in walleye serie it's weight 103g = 3.63 oz with just 2 g more than the Legend Elite in the same size and action , I am very impresed with the quality and the castability of this rod.
Good review! As far as the Victory spinning rods I am getting ready to send back my 5th broken tip rod, they do replace them but it's getting old. I picked up a couple of the Legend Tournament Bass casting this winter but have not used them yet, but just in hand they feel like the Victory line like you mentioned but are a lot nicer looking. They offer an upgrade, I am going to try upgrading to the Legend 7'1''.
Keep up the good videos' I enjoy your work!
I own 3 victory rods how did you even break the tips. You catching 10lb bass an have drag to tight. I foul hooked many carp over 20lbs on the ml 6 foot 10 victory rod
@@garrybattle8908 Right! I don't get it ether, I guess because I jumped on the first ones and they might have been the Covid produced ones, anyway they replace them but it so heart breaking and a PITA to send them back.
How would you say the sensitivity compares to the expride? Torn between the two.
Well, I haven't used the new Expride B. The St. Croix warranty is WAY better though.
Great review ! I have that rod and really like it for a lot of things and mine is the incorrect spelling lol. I also have a 7’ MLF in the walleye series and it’s and amazing drop shot rod IMO. I’ve owned everything from the Triumph line to the Legend Elites but really like the Legend Tournament line so far. Can’t remember if you reviewed the Megabass Levante spinning rods but I have 2 and they’re awesome too.
You should review the 7’ MLF LTWS. I’m not sure how it compares for power, but it’s got a phenomenal action to it. I’d say it fishes more like a medium and has really good sensitivity. Fantastic ned rig rod.
Thanks for the shoutout 😊
How do you seal your cork?
u40 cork seal
I had no complaints one the older version medium 7ft, I’ve used all sorts of bait on it and put more weight then recommended probably close to 1 3/4 oz. Landed some 5-7 school or striped bass and some nice cat fish 10lb along with a few smaller pike 5-7lb range.
Was waiting for this one for ages. I was using an old LTB 7'1 Medium/Fast casting for senko's and free-rigs, but the balance drove me nuts, so I got impatient and sold it off and just went out and got an Orochi XX Shakyhead. How do these compare to the Orochi? From the sounds of it I don't think I made a mistake.
I love the softer tip blending into a stiffer midsection. I have orrochi and 2 expride. I like this rod as much but for different reasons. The light tip casts a lighter bait and feels it well but the stiffer mid allows you to lay some wood when needed.
Great points!
What net are you using in the video? Also how’s the weight on it? I know some of those rubber nets can be pretty heavy
Hey, Punch - I’ve been a sub to your channel for a hot minute, and was wondering if you would do a review on the St. Croix Legend Extreme casting rod? That has to be the sexiest rod of all time! For a rod to be $700…how does it fish? I enjoy your videos simply for the high-end price gear reviews. My max price point for rods is $250 so most of the rods you review are way over my budget.
Could I through a Rapala countdown and x raps on this rod and spoons
Bro I broke my meggabass rod how did u get it replaced
Hi, can i use the 3/4oz "Power versatile" model in saltwater for seabass with jerkbait and topwater lures?
I have the new 7’11 flip rod. Very nice but it can be used for more then just flipping and punching. I use mine for fishing off shore stuff big swimbaits on jig heads and scroungers very versatile rod for those off shore techniques.
Ahhh so they are a bit heavier. I wonder if that’s why they don’t list the weights directly on the spec chart like they do for the Victory rods.
Honestly it's not that dramatic.
is it better than the shimano's expride? any equivalents (performance wise) from gloomis, mega bass ? thanks
Don't own an expride but I do own a bunch of legend tournament walleye rods which use the same components and blanks. GLoomis IMX closely compares to legend tournament. Gloomis GLX is higher tier, is more sensitive and much lighter in hand. This translates to it being balanced with a significantly lighter reel. For example, my legend walleye that's 6'6 medium needs 9 oz to balance perfectly. My 7'1 GLX needs 7.5-8. After a day of fishing, this makes a big difference.
I got the 7’3” medium paired with Daiwa Certate 2500.Haven’t fished it yet due to weather (Sacramento) but it sho is pretty!!😁
Since you do a lot of St Croix stuff... A local dealer is doing sale on Legend Elite and Legend X... Is one rod better than the other? And the difference. Want a casting rod for weightless senko, fluke, etc. So not sure whether to get Med XF or MH F?
Leaning towards the Legend X just by looks but have no experience with either.
The legend elite and X are the same rods, just full grip vs split.
I’m depending on getting that rod or the dobyns Xtasy.
Personally I HATE the grips on the Dobyns spinning rods.
Shakey head a go with this rod?
It could but personally it's not stiff enough for my preferences
Ah man, I went through 3 Victory rods before I upgraded to the LTB equivalent. Own 2 of them now and won't look back. Have the Pinpoint (swimbaits, texas rigs, shakey heads, jerkbaits) spinning and the Dropshot Finesse XL (smaller swimbaits, shakey heads, ned rigs, drop shots) spinning rods. Going to get the Warhorse (jigs and lipless) casting rod this season hopefully.
Imo the LTB is leaps and bounds above the Victory series. My Victory was not nearly as sensitive as cheaper rods. The LTB sensitivity is exponentially better.
I had the victory broke the tip and upgraded to the Legend. I loved the Victor. I heard these are better I hope it's worth the extra and the wait.
Any thoughts on a good neko rig rod? 872 nrx i know has been talked about but seems too stiff what i know since you need a little whip to get launch for distance? Windbuster, Baby Plugging, 852 nrx? Though I like the thought of a longer rod for more leverage. Lost a lot of fish on a necko with my Expride 7 med spinning.
I toss all my Neko stuff on the 872s. It's perfect for it. Especially in grass.
@@PunchFishing Thanks! I saw that on your 22' spinning lineup. Saw a Hookup tackle video they couldn't get distance too well more with moving baits. I do pretty well in OH with the largemouth in spring early summer on a neko and finesse worms. Using 7 M Expride I had a lot jump off. Lost some nice ones. Thought that rod might be too soft though it slings lighter weights well with 10# braid. Tried different hooks but same results.
@@jimbo0411 the 872s rocks.
@@PunchFishing Sounds good. I think the 872 and a Whipsnake for tiny hard baits should cover a lot of my techniques I do on spinning.
Do you have the new expride rod? I would love to see you do a video on them.
I do not, but I plan on grabbing some next summer
@@PunchFishing can’t wait to see what you think. I don’t have one but maybe in my future.
I’m waiting on a 7’3” MH to go with my Certate 2500 from Digitaka. Merry Christmas to me!!! 😅😅😅
The Billy Ripken rod. St croix has nice cork, love the color. $300 I probably just get an Elite or Legend X .
Honestly I didn't love my Legend X spinning rod. Sold it.
Would love to hear a full review on the tequila baccarac if you've used it more since your casting arsenal video!!
I have it and still haven't done a video on it. One of these days.
@@PunchFishing looking forward to it. MB needs to put you on the payroll. Already got a super destroyer and an xx perfect pitch from your videos and at least the p5 has blown me away.
The first Victory rod I had, the lock nut threads literally ripped off of the blank LOL
Glue issue?
Taper looks slower and loads deeper say NRX 842S?
Very much so.
@@PunchFishing Perfect, I'll be picking one up next spring
What model would u suggest for a daiwa ballistic 2500
Any of them!
Fishing in PFs boat...
Co Angler: "I don't have my gear, mind if I use your Destroyers or NRXs?"
PF: "Naw man sorry, but you can use one of my 'shitty' combo's. Take this Tourney/ Ballistic" 💀
Hey I share everything! 🤣
He does share, I have had his NRX and Megabass rods all day on our outings
What is your favorite spinning jerkbait rod?
Whipsnake
The Expride level price point is about the best value then jump to an NRX or a Megabass Destroyer despite short fore grip. Curious also about a Steez too since the casting rods are pretty incredible also.
I picked up the 7'1" steez spinning rod last week and its pretty impressive. Its a little stiffer than expected but very functional. The black and red also matches a ballistic reel perfectly.
@@nyewang they look nice, i have the BC2 and Power Pitch in casting and really love them.
Man a dude in Fishermans Warehouse tackle shop broke a Victory rod showing me the action 🤦🏾♂️. Hope my Tournament Legend don’t break.
I’ve never broken a rod in my life while fishing. Grew up using cheap ugly sticks. Beat the crap out of them and they are still alive and kicking. My 3 month old Victory snapped above the handle while getting stuck in a little grass. It then continued to break into 4 or 5 pieces. I’m sure this was due to the integrity being compromised. It however was still super weird. After looking into this online some, there are quite a few people experiencing this same issue. I will say St. Croix’s customer service and warranty was fantastic. I took advantage of the opportunity to upgrade and went with the Legend Tournament Bass. Hopefully this series doesn’t have the same problem 🤞.
I bought one i will have to check the spelling thats too funny Versitile
Your not going to get a misspelled word from Megabass lol
Facts
Well duh, Cause it's all written in Japanese ...🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@inaslump 😂
I would just spend the extra $$ and buy the Elite..
All I use is st croix
Got some in avid
Most are the legend extreme, and elite
And they r stiffer than the real g Loomis not the shit Shimano Loomis crap,and all the St croix I have
I got to go to the lighter action, so if I had old Loomis med fast
I would have to get st croix
Med mod for the same feel,
Only thing is ,st croix doesn't hav a good dropshot
Unfortunately I use a shitmano cumura dropshot rod, and hate the day it breaks cause I can't find another rod like it 4 the dropshot,
This review could have taken 3 minutes if you hadn't rambled on and on and on about dumb stuff.
St. Croix fishing rods. Why anyone pays that kind of money for fishing poles is beyond me.
st croix are twice the price of what they should sell for. made in china. TFO is actually better and sells for less than half the price.
Perhaps slightly overpriced, but not double. And they aren’t made in China…at least not their nice rods like this Legend Tournament series.
Ha, ha, wow… another misinformed St. Croix hater. They are not made in China. Fish the rod you like and have fun.
I do like my TFO ROD