I have a jar of honey with a metal ring (canning Jar Lid) and the edges of the ring and jar turned the honey black over the period of a couple weeks. This is why I recommend not using metal spoons. I have a stainless steel spinner and filters but that is only for a few minutes. guess if they made a glass spinner I would use that. Not so sure if plastic is the answer either. We do the best we can at keeping it pure....
Unfortunately, the edible honey in King Tut's tomb story isn't true. One of the archeologists sent his sweetheart a letter making the claim. The love letter claim didn't hold up scientifically (although it has lived on as a myth) as one of "lover boy's" colleagues described the contents of said jar as a dried up (not crystalized) substance. This info is from an article in ABJ from a few years ago.
That spoon idea may be linked to when silver spoons were way more prevalent. Silver does mess with enzymes and pathogens. I know all about crystallized honey. I have 5lb jars filled and have to warm them up to pour it out. That’s how I know the local guy isn’t messing with nature.
On the metal spoon, I would also ask what type of metal. Stainless, Silver or Aluminum are all common types of flatware and the later two are more reactive and could leave toxic traces over time.
regarding honey going bad. A more in depth explanation would be: When stored correctly it doesn't spoil. So when you put in in a (hermetically) sealed jar, the worst that can happen is that it crystalizes and the flavour might change (timing and rate depending on temp fluctuations). One of the reasons for this is the natural mild antibiotic effect (which is quite broad spectrum so generally good for any type of bacterial infection), combined with the fact that it's very hydrophillic, so any biological organism, like mold or bacteria, would get the liquids sucked out of them and die before they could do 'damage to the honey'. But this hydrophillic effect also means it constantly sucks moisture from the air, so if the container isn't airtight then honey will continuously suck moisture out of the air, slowly becoming more diluted, till the mold and bacteria actually CAN take hold in it. (When airtight it'll suck the tiny bit of moisture from the air in the container and then stay inert cause there simply is no more moisture around it.) Now, for how long it can be stored when not in an airtight container we need to consider the very low water content in honey (18-19% ish iirc), the amount of honey in the container, and the humidity of the air; to see when it would get diluted enough to actually reach a point where it could technically spoil. Generally speaking most houses aren't as humid as a swamp, and honey isn't usually stored as individual droplets. So even when stored 'badly', honey will stay good for quite a while, and when stored correctly it should technically be edible long after the damn sun dies xP So as long as you actually use some honey every now and then, it should stay good untill you finish the jar, even when stored improperly :)
Dave I think the statement about honey keeping you alive refers to a tablespoon of honey will keep your glycogen stores from depleting for 24 hours. You’re obviously not going to expire, but the stored glycogen in your liver and muscles would be about 1 tablespoon of pure honey. That’s my best guess. So for 24 hours you could burn carbohydrates and not revert to burning fat or breaking down proteins in your muscles.
Honey is acidic which reacts with metal but not plastic. I use a plastic extractor and can taste the from shop bought and I can taste metal from the spoon. Some people can taste better than others
Not scientific data, but the spoon one may go back to when silverware was actually made of silver? I have an allergic reaction to silver jewelry so maybe there is something to the reaction of honey and silver? Not sure, but would love to learn if anyone has info. Would love to be able to explain where this myth comes from so I could explain it to people.
David, stainless steel flatware is a non reactive metal, it will jot harm honey in any way. Now your Grandmothers old silverware set may react with honey
I keep hearing about not using a metal spoon. It seems so uneducated to believe something like that. I mean, how would your honey never come into contact with some form of metal container during its production in the first place. Most metal utensils are non-reactive. I just don't understand how people believe these rumors and then it spreads so widely!
Bumping that algorithm 👊 Beeks!!! P.S. David I've heard the metal soon so many times 🤣. No expert here & I agree with you! Funny thing is (from what I understand) gold plated silverware is known to allow humans taste buds to sense less metallic "transfer" flavor... Learned about it from a modern marvels or how it's made episode on ice cream.?! Apparently The taste testers used gold-plated spoons for this exclusively (who'd have thought). No chance I'll be switch to gold silverware anytime soon 🤣🤣🤣.
Ha,Ha. Thanks for this David The first time i read the spoon idea, i thought of the stainless steel strainer. 😅 I know honey is good for my brain 'cos I'm heaps smarter since i started beekeeping...or is that caused by all the knowledge I've accumulated? 👀🐝
'Honey Sustains Life' means that, compared with you eating a normal meal and then have no food or water until you die, eating a jar of honey will extend the time it takes you to die by 24 hours (so they say)
David! I'm trying to grow my business and want to sell packages this year. Where do I find the packages, and especially where do I find the feed cans that go inside them? Thanks!
Charles Linder took a class with me years ago. He became one of the largest beekeepers around and sells package bee containers (Bee Bus) and the cans. Search for Bee Bus online. Good luck.
Nutritionally, depending on the plant, pollen protein varies. A lot of these myths are likely extrapolated from lab data. Who could eat 45 to 75 gm of bee pollen daily? even collect that much?
i think the acid in the honey will oxidize aluminium or galivinised metals, stainless is not on the list, it happens over time, this is why they made stainless over galivinised exstracters the honey dont effect stainless,,,,
I have a jar of honey with a metal ring (canning Jar Lid) and the edges of the ring and jar turned the honey black over the period of a couple weeks. This is why I recommend not using metal spoons. I have a stainless steel spinner and filters but that is only for a few minutes. guess if they made a glass spinner I would use that. Not so sure if plastic is the answer either. We do the best we can at keeping it pure....
Unfortunately, the edible honey in King Tut's tomb story isn't true. One of the archeologists sent his sweetheart a letter making the claim. The love letter claim didn't hold up scientifically (although it has lived on as a myth) as one of "lover boy's" colleagues described the contents of said jar as a dried up (not crystalized) substance. This info is from an article in ABJ from a few years ago.
Honey has healing properties for wounds, bee stings or burns?
I like to use glass spoons for my honey.
That spoon idea may be linked to when silver spoons were way more prevalent. Silver does mess with enzymes and pathogens.
I know all about crystallized honey. I have 5lb jars filled and have to warm them up to pour it out. That’s how I know the local guy isn’t messing with nature.
Yes I agree Healthy metals are copper, silver gold Titanium?
On the metal spoon, I would also ask what type of metal. Stainless, Silver or Aluminum are all common types of flatware and the later two are more reactive and could leave toxic traces over time.
It’s used in wound healing toooo true statement
regarding honey going bad. A more in depth explanation would be: When stored correctly it doesn't spoil. So when you put in in a (hermetically) sealed jar, the worst that can happen is that it crystalizes and the flavour might change (timing and rate depending on temp fluctuations). One of the reasons for this is the natural mild antibiotic effect (which is quite broad spectrum so generally good for any type of bacterial infection), combined with the fact that it's very hydrophillic, so any biological organism, like mold or bacteria, would get the liquids sucked out of them and die before they could do 'damage to the honey'.
But this hydrophillic effect also means it constantly sucks moisture from the air, so if the container isn't airtight then honey will continuously suck moisture out of the air, slowly becoming more diluted, till the mold and bacteria actually CAN take hold in it. (When airtight it'll suck the tiny bit of moisture from the air in the container and then stay inert cause there simply is no more moisture around it.) Now, for how long it can be stored when not in an airtight container we need to consider the very low water content in honey (18-19% ish iirc), the amount of honey in the container, and the humidity of the air; to see when it would get diluted enough to actually reach a point where it could technically spoil. Generally speaking most houses aren't as humid as a swamp, and honey isn't usually stored as individual droplets. So even when stored 'badly', honey will stay good for quite a while, and when stored correctly it should technically be edible long after the damn sun dies xP
So as long as you actually use some honey every now and then, it should stay good untill you finish the jar, even when stored improperly :)
If honey is heated above 104* like when it is crystallized and you want to liquify it, it kills the live enzymes?
Putting honey on a wound helps it heal...The stickiness actually holds dirt.
Dave I think the statement about honey keeping you alive refers to a tablespoon of honey will keep your glycogen stores from depleting for 24 hours. You’re obviously not going to expire, but the stored glycogen in your liver and muscles would be about 1 tablespoon of pure honey. That’s my best guess. So for 24 hours you could burn carbohydrates and not revert to burning fat or breaking down proteins in your muscles.
I also heard the metal spoon thing with colloidal silver you're not supposed to use metal spoons for colloidal silver
Honey is acidic which reacts with metal but not plastic. I use a plastic extractor and can taste the from shop bought and I can taste metal from the spoon.
Some people can taste better than others
Was wondering that, What's the PH ?
Not scientific data, but the spoon one may go back to when silverware was actually made of silver? I have an allergic reaction to silver jewelry so maybe there is something to the reaction of honey and silver? Not sure, but would love to learn if anyone has info. Would love to be able to explain where this myth comes from so I could explain it to people.
Are you sure it wasn’t fermented honey? Fermented honey is actually good for you, and has its own, unique taste.
What is meant by “killing enzymes”? They are not living beings. Maybe “destroying enzymes” is what is intended.
Did I say killing enzymes!! I know better. Shame on me.
I bought leatherwood honey is Tasmania Australia, it’s sold in a 2kg metal tin and I eat it off a spoon, it’s delicious!👍
If you will starve in 21 days without food or if you have a teaspoon of honey per day you could maybe live indefinitely
What did John the Baptist survive on the Bible says locust and honey?
the first one is like if you eat 1spon of honey you will add 24 hours more to your life but i think its super lie
David, stainless steel flatware is a non reactive metal, it will jot harm honey in any way. Now your Grandmothers old silverware set may react with honey
Silver spoon....the silver
I keep hearing about not using a metal spoon. It seems so uneducated to believe something like that. I mean, how would your honey never come into contact with some form of metal container during its production in the first place. Most metal utensils are non-reactive. I just don't understand how people believe these rumors and then it spreads so widely!
How long would you keep honey 🍯 before it would taste off as you mentioned
Perfect question to ask on my livestream this Thursday at 7pm central time. Hope to see you there. Here's the link: www.honeybeesonline.com/live
Frederick Dunn's latest video has very interesting information on some studies regarding honey and its medicinal properties
Bumping that algorithm 👊 Beeks!!!
P.S. David I've heard the metal soon so many times 🤣. No expert here & I agree with you!
Funny thing is (from what I understand) gold plated silverware is known to allow humans taste buds to sense less metallic "transfer" flavor... Learned about it from a modern marvels or how it's made episode on ice cream.?! Apparently The taste testers used gold-plated spoons for this exclusively (who'd have thought). No chance I'll be switch to gold silverware anytime soon 🤣🤣🤣.
Interesting points David, thanks for the video! Stay warm!
Great chat as always David thank you
I love my honey, 20 years and has never spoiled, always just as sweet as can be.🎉
You are on point David , myth buster episode 👍
Great Honey Video David, I heard that a great buckwheat honey harvest year is a forecast for a snowy long cold winter season.
Honey alone cannot sustain life to do that it would have to have a fat source not just carbohydrates
MY DAD WAS GIVEN A 5-GALLON BUCKET OF CRYSTALLIZED HONEY BECAUSE WELL IT WAS NO GOOD RIGHT 👍😂😂😂😂😂😂😂WE FEASTED😊
Thank you
I thank you for teaching common sense some have lost (it) a long the way.
I love the little bit of logic on the spoon. It would be great if more people used a little bit of logic
Agreed!!!
Ha,Ha. Thanks for this David
The first time i read the spoon idea, i thought of the stainless steel strainer. 😅
I know honey is good for my brain 'cos I'm heaps smarter since i started beekeeping...or is that caused by all the knowledge I've accumulated? 👀🐝
Love all your Park Tools
Is it ok to surround your bee hives with wild flowers or is there a certain distance you want flowers to be from the hive?
Perfect question to ask on my livestream this Thursday at 7pm central time. Hope to see you there. Here's the link: www.honeybeesonline.com/live
'Honey Sustains Life' means that, compared with you eating a normal meal and then have no food or water until you die, eating a jar of honey will extend the time it takes you to die by 24 hours (so they say)
David! I'm trying to grow my business and want to sell packages this year. Where do I find the packages, and especially where do I find the feed cans that go inside them?
Thanks!
Charles Linder took a class with me years ago. He became one of the largest beekeepers around and sells package bee containers (Bee Bus) and the cans. Search for Bee Bus online. Good luck.
Honey ages well
Nutritionally, depending on the plant, pollen protein varies. A lot of these myths are likely extrapolated from lab data. Who could eat 45 to 75 gm of bee pollen daily? even collect that much?
Them wood spoons are a pain 😂messy
I see these on Facebook a lot and I try to correct people but everyone shares without actually research unfortunately
Always thought the same thing, spin it out in a SS drum, what could a SS spoon do?
Hello, I have a question. Is there still enough room in the market to make a living just raising Queens?
Perfect question to ask on my livestream this Thursday at 7pm central time. Hope to see you there. Here's the link: www.honeybeesonline.com/live
“Honey, alone, can sustain human life”. Sure! It can, but for how long?
Honey is good in moderation.
Tumeric and Honey in your coffee every morning
When going through the dessert you need to eat locusts with your honey.
i think the acid in the honey will oxidize aluminium or galivinised metals, stainless is not on the list, it happens over time, this is why they made stainless over galivinised exstracters the honey dont effect stainless,,,,