I have seen fake vents and artificial aero , but this could be the first time I’ve ever seen what are essentially red paint-on fake tow hooks. I’m disgusted and impressed. they’ll say it’s just a fun styling cue, but that’s 100% them trying to simulate the look of red tow hooks without actually putting on tow hooks. Amazing
I actually didn't even notice this at first. I do think it looks pretty stylish overall, but after your comment I can't un-see the fake tow hooks. The fake tow hooks kind of summarize/represent these off-road packages in a nutshell - Cosmetics designed to make you think you're adventurous as you drive to Starbucks.
An old coworker had a 2023 as his outside sales vehicle, actually he has had two or is on his third, cant remember. Anyways, the first one with the 3cy turbo never gave him issues and put 120k miles on it in a year, hard miles too. He would drive that thing at 80-85mph for hours at a time.
Whomever is in charge of roof racks at Nissan is the one carrying that brand, and has been for years. Imagine an Xterra without a roof rack. Terrible, right? But now look at a 2011-ish Frontier vs a Frontier Pro-4X, the roof rack is what makes it look good. I'd argue the same goes for the current Pathfinder vs Pathfinder Rock Creek and now the Rogue vs the Rogue Rock Creek. Those beefy tubular roof racks are carrying a lot of the aesthetic weight for these vehicles. So once again; Mr./Mrs. Roof Rack Designer, we salute you as the true load-bearing hero that you are.
Yep, my first thought was, you can get the same level of capability if you just put those same tires on any other trim. No need to waste money on the rock creek.
Its a soft-roader, perfect for someone that is spending 99% of the time on the highway and 1% of the time on fireroads at a camp site. Its comfortable, good fuel economy, handles fine, and 8.2" of ground clearance thanks to its low overhangs is sufficient. The 360 camera and front view on fire roads is good, and the AWD systems are so advanced now this had no issues going through what just about anyone would ACTUALLY put this through on a camping trip with the family... and it looks cool.
My salesman was great, and so honest. When I told him I could afford $999/month he talked me down to the SV model for $799 so I can afford to replace the VC turbo every three years! Talk about customer focused!
Buddy of mine wanted a Rogue few years back and we went to the dealership to get one. He’s super good with his finances and the whole reason he wanted a Rogue was because they were doing five year term financing at 0.99%. We were in the finance office and they pulled out the credit report and it came back as a perfect 900. The lady actually said “Oh wow, that’s a first”.
Back in the 1990’s we were really roughing it. We would go tent camping with the kids in a ’87 Chrysler 5th Avenue with anemic air conditioning. The 318 V8 and auto trans got us thru anything. I cannot image exploring the outdoors in a lifestyle vehicle with a three cylinder variable compression engine linked to a CVT made by Nissan.
The latest CVT is called the CVT-X, its torque rating is very high. Its a dual pump chain style unit, just like in the Subaru Wilderness line, which are similar soft-road vehicles. And I'm guessing you're aware, its not cylinders that matter its horsepower and torque. The engine makes 205hp and 225ftlbs of torque at low RPM, more than the inline-6 in my old Jeep, and more than enough to power this relatively lightweight AWD vehicle.
@@BoopSnoot those are great numbers, but has there been any history with this powertrain? I want there to be a reliable and affordable crossover, but Nissan’s CVTs have a bad reputation for a reason. On the other hand, I really like the brown exterior color. I hope more automakers get onboard with this and the recent sandy/gold colors we’ve seen in Mazda CX-50 and Honda Civics.
@@BoopSnoot Amount of cylinders and displacement ABSOLUTELY MATTER. It tells you by how much the engine is being OVERTAXED. So the lower the displacement the harder it is working. The harder it is working (especially with a turbo) the shorter its life span. Add onto that all the bullshit technology like "variable compression" and pair it with a CVT and you have a turd sandwich. Hey if it floats your goat go for it but i'd rather pay a little extra for peace of mind that comes with reliability. Like Toyota or Honda...
You guys are lucky you have a large and loyal fanbase. The amount of existing knowledge about your show and cars in general needed to understand this level of sarcasm would leave any rando shopping for a car scratching their heads. Never change guys!
Just picked one of these up and I'm ready to hit the trails. Traded in my restored 1998 TJ with a five-speed for something with, let's just say, A little more nut? 🥜
You made a fantastic choice! The Nissan will chew through any offroading whether it's a logging road all the way to extreme rock crawling. Nissan Strong!! 💪
Aren’t these trims mostly a response to most CUVs all looking like blobs. The “outdoor” thing is an attempt to get the cars to look a bit more brawny, and to help their owners forget their suburban cookie cutter existence. If anything, companies should just make their base models more square and save themselves the complexity of an extra trim line.
Re-make the Cube but put an engine and transmission in it that isn't complete ass (impossible challenge). I want to love the Cube but damn those Micra underpinnings just destroy it for me.
Last gen Rogue unfortunately, gets the old engine, old transmission, and old infotainment. Nissan wouldn't give them the new stuff, otherwise I'd be driving a Outlander now as they look great IMO.
5:20 LMAO I had the same reaction, I always love Marks deadpan deliveries. I bet he couldn't contain himself when he heard Nissan and Honda were teaming up
I have driven this car numerous times here in Japan, where it is called the X-Trail; it is primarily sold as a hybrid (e-4ORCE). The difference that hybrid engine makes is massive. It goes from an underwhelming noisy car to downright luxurious.
I own a 2023 Rogue special edition and I love it. I haven driven over 20k km without any issues. Everything in the car just works and is very intuitive to use. The engine and cvt transmission work really well in the city and the highway. I used to drive an F150 before and the 10sp transmission was the worst. I much prefer the cvt in the Rogue. I live in Toronto and both the Rav4 and CRV are being stolen left and right. Subaru has that awful center screen and Mazda doesn't offer lane centering and remote start on the key fob. I will take my Rogue over all these other vehicles anytime.
We talk a lot about Nissan reliability but it all still feels analogous to me. No one ever has real knowledge on the numbers other than fringe examples. Even when I go to the junk yard, multiple yards, its harder to find examples of Nissan cars than it is to find Toyota, GM, or Ford examples. Hard to say if thats just a sales number thing, but Nissan sales aren’t so low that they’d be nearly absent from where everyone pretends they end up
Mark's enthusiastic excitement for this product...er...SUV, has got me questioning which car I should buy next.....I thought I knew...but now...thanks to Marks excitement for this suv.....I will have to decide between it, or a RAM TRX. Tell me which one should I get.
I once loved Nissan. I had a 1989 Pulsar, 1996 Maxima SE manual, and later another 1995 Maxima SE manual. I haven't trusted their products since the early 2000s. I hope that day returns.
I owe nothing but Nissans since the mid 90s and they’ve given me no issues at all. All these people complaining about their CVT problems are full of it.
Same. I loved almost anything they put from the 80's to early 2010's. I even had a Infiniti G35 at one point. That car was amazing fun from top to bottom. My gf now has a Rogue and we both hate it.
@RONderluck that's great to hear! One of my neighbors has been leasing Nissans one after another. But never keeps them. I figured they were good for a while but not worth keeping. I appreciate your feedback.
Kind of surprised it wasn't mentioned The reason that people buy Nissans are because they offer more for less. Do Honda and Toyota make better products probably but this will be significantly cheaper after discounting. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get this for under 30 grand this time next year.
I had this decision to make, Toyota RAV4, Honda CR-V, Nissian Roge and many more. I drove a slew of them, watched a boat load of videos on reviews and in the end I went with a 2024 Subaru Forester Wilderness. The safety factor, and CR having the Forester in theor top 5 for the past 10 years helped. So far, 8k miles and not one issue. Even though Subaru America says the CVT fluid never needs changing, Subaru Japan says do it at 50k or so. I follow what Subaru Japan says. Mr. Subaru here on Yt recommends the same thing, change it.
First time taking the first comment! I love how this is the only channel that points out how pointless these offroad trims are for the crossover space. I too have been saying this while working at Kia Georgia. The sportage and the telluride sx pro has always left me feeling like I’m deceiving customers into buying a fake product not designed to do what it’s marketed as. The Big Altima Energy reference is the real gem of this video
I hate all crossovers, they compromise on everything and excel at nothing. They are seriously pointless vehicles but they sell because Americans love a station wagon but will never admit it.
“This is an incredible car, one of the best” (uncontrollable laughter) Is this Nissan’s death knell, pushing out tens of unforgettable models before Honda turns them all into econoboxes?
I will speak a bit from enthusiast/consumer perspective. I am from Croatia, Europe. Currently I drive 2024 Suzuki S-Cross Allgrip MT6, 1.4t mild hybrid, bit of a peach, that car. However, last year my parents bought 2023 Nissan Xtrail/Rouge with the 1.5 VCT engine 163hp in Europe, only sold as FWD. That car in top trim is 44K euros, my Suzuki is just under 29K euros, just a bit of context. Rav4 and CRV are hybrid only and cost 50K-60K(Xtrail has hybrid option which is around 50K top trim). Also Ive just driven my friends 2023 2.0L 165hp AT6 CX5 which is midspec around 40K euros. Knowing all this, Xtrail/Rogue in Europe is very price competitive and as we all know chassis is full of aluminum, they use acousting glass etc. And that car FEELS premium in normal driving, highway... that Mazda CX5 cannot quite reach(6speed in Mazda feels no better in normal driving than CVT in Nissan, both respond to padels fine enough, but VC-T is torquier, more refined and uses less fuel). Also, warranty on the car is 6years, 150.000km and our Nissan dealer says they havent had SINGLE blown trans in any Nissan last 6, 7 years. We have great experiences from 2.0L Qashqai's before(2 of them, above 200.000km each, no major issues except new exhaust and some interior trim). New Xtrail feels as quality as any other nice crossover with good propilot assist, great insulation and nice materials with competitive pricing is just good deal and great car. Every time I drive it I do feel money well spent. Both my Suzuki and that Nissan are ceramic coated and we take care of cars. But our experiences so far with Nissans in Europe are very good(Xtrail for EU is built in Japan, as is, I think Rogue for US, I guess same factory). Really possible that Nissan sends worse cars to US than Europe?
I just want to know who decided to brand it "Rock Creek." I'm sure Rock Creek is a relatively common name for a few places, but it is perhaps most famously the name of a giant city park that splits Washington, D.C. in two, with the eponymous creek finding its way to the Potomac. Nissan decided to give its "rugged" trim a name that equates to city driving along a parkway. And maybe a visit to the zoo.
I'd honestly like to see a '25 Kicks Rock Creek. The Kicks is now available in AWD, 360 camera, very short overhang on front and rear bumpers, and has 8.4" of ground clearance (more than the Rogue) stock already. Just put on the same wheels from the Rogue Rock Creek on a SR trim, change a few badges and colors, and call it a day. Inexpensive to produce and would be a nice option over the huge wheel rubber band tires they currently offer on the SR trim since that trim is not offered in anything but 19" wheels.
Why are all these car manufacturers acting every customer needs a hardcore, rocking crawling SUV. The ones that really do, are NOT buying a nissan rouge lol
The same reason people buy a Wrangler with lockers to take it to Aldi - pandering to people who will put down cash for something as an ego boost. SUVs just tend to be one of the most profitable segments right now.
My Wife owns a 2021 Rogue we got new and now has 40k miles it is surprising nice and ppl who ride in it are surprised too with how nice it is. Ppl hate Nissan for no other reason than the internet lol Her 14 rogue went 160k with no issues just maintenance and we traded that in for this rogue.
The true reason Honda wants to acquire Nissan and Mitsubishi is for their CrossCabriolet technology and to rebadge the mirage as the all new Honda beat.
The Rock Creek attire gives Rogue a distinctive personality variation, versus most competitors. Soft ride, soft inputs, and generally average performance? Seems like an appealing way to smooth out the fatigue of traffic, errands, and commutes on life's coarse and congested roadways.
This is a great rental vehicle and if you get this used with warranty and documents that prove all work done on it. And also get extended warranty and sell after warranty is up.
Two more payments and the Cabriolet will be payed off. I’ll take a hard look at the Rogue. Jack mentioned Nissan had some amazing financing terms right now. Winning!
So my question is what model rogue is the rock creek equal to as far as luxuries? Is it a base S or a SV OR A PLATINUM. To me it looks like a SV with roof racks I could be wrong though
since it seems a little offroad light maybe it should've been called the Rogue 'Puddle-Jumper' edition ... "guaranteed to get you across puddles less than two inches deep!"
I don't understand, what else did they do beyond the AT tires? Also what does it supposedly do over buying a regular Rogue and using your own AT tires for your soft road adventures?
Nothing, but this comes with standard AWD, looks neat, nicer wheel/tire package for softroading, roof rack that can hold 250lbs, front camera on with hill decent control, and well a 360 camera in general. They took an SV Premium trim and gave it a styling and mild offroad package, which is fine everything is a compromise. If they lifted it 2" higher it would be over 10" tall and it would ruin the handling.
If you want a very capable in all conditions, mainly on-road vehicle just get a Forester, old or new. The SJ generation with the turbo blows all of these out of the water in performance too, in addition to the superior all wheel drive.
@@RONderluck Honda merges (buys) Nissan...Honda puts their engine/transmission in Nissan vehicle (see Toyota > Mazda)...no more crappy engine/CVT pairing!
On the flip side - in a segment where there's no real dynamic difference, and the buyers are people who don't know or care - this is arguably the coolest looking and most "expressive" seeming entry in the segment. In some ways, I don't think a CR-V buyer would be cross-shopping this, and vice versa, just purely based on the looks and vibe. This one feels much more fun, youthful, and interesting - whether or not it actually is. I don't hate it.
I always liked the Rogue for what it is. The problem is that stupid transmission, which I heard has largely been fixed for the current generation. I had one a few companies back, 2018 model year, and they never had transmission issues, but that could be due to actual proper on time maintenance in addition to living in a cold state.
I go to mountain bike trails heads and way back country trails to backpack on in my type R. MOST wilderness stuff is accessible by MOST cars. You need an adventure package vehicle so that other people know that you are an adventure person. Otherwise, how else would they know?!
Exactly. An old coworker of mine had a 5 speed Impreza Sport (no Outback, no Crosstrek) and used to take it anywhere he needed to go to go mountain biking. He loved it, and never really had any issue with respect to it getting where he needed it to go, which included some light trails. The whole crossover trend, in addition to the outdoors packages, is pandering to people who want to broadcast an image, not because it's necessary.
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I have a little story to share. A friend of mine works for a dealership that has a Honda dealership and a Nissan dealership. He told me that an engine or transmission swap out at the Honda dealership would be a big deal. It almost never happens. They have to special order it. It takes forever because of the shipping. Yada, yada, yada. - He says so this one day, I had to go over to the Nissan dealership. In the back they had a bunch of engines and transmissions. He said wow, you have that many swaps scheduled?! They said, we have a few on deck. The rest are just good to keep on hand. Because we do them a lot.... - Enough said. lol
@ Is that number being skewed by the recall on the new engine in the new Tundra? - Not that they get a pass for that issue. But if that’s an issue way outside the norm and skewed the numbers, then it should be noted ya know. Also like you pointed out Toyota sells way more as well. So that might have a far lower percentage, and still pass them in numbers.
8:45 Ii don't care all that much about reconnecting with nature. I want a ride that will get me through the worst a Minnesota winter can throw at me, not cost a crap-ton of money, and has a pretty decent stereo to boot. If I can get it in a cool shade of red, so much the better. That's why I'm on my third CX-5 lease, and will likely buy the one I have outright in a couple of years.
The only company that puts a modicum of effort into their soft road shitbox trim is Subaru. You get a lift, tires, different bumpers, CVT cooler, more aggressive final drive ratio, retuned torque vectoring maps, increased tow rating, increased load capacity roof bars, as well as all of the appearance bits. Everyone else just does appearance, tires, and maybe some off road modes.
What I find pretty hilarious is towards the end. It states if you don’t have any disposable income. $35,000 financed for 60 months at the average interest rate is close to $700 a month. If that is 10% of your net income you’re making $7000 a month yeah that’s pretty good.I feel like automotive journalist is really don’t understand the cost of vehicles and what people can actually afford. A $70,000 vehicle is going to be $1200 a month easily. Which is now approaching to being the average.
I had to do the math myself because I didn't believe you at first and wow. Let's just say I'm glad I traded my car when I did to get that sweet 2% APR. It's paid off now and I have NO desire to get back under the bank. 1200/mo for a new vehicle is robbery but it's fact that most people buying large SUVs or trucks are paying that amount unless they've brought equity to the table.
You need a decent down payment these days. I am in the market and honestly, I have thought about waiting another year to have a much larger down payment. I just don't like having massive car payments on something that loses value.
Personally said it about the Pathfinder Rock Creek and the same with that Rogue - they’re infallible proof that Americans are dumb enough to spend extra money for an appearance package - albeit the Suburban Z71 is my typical go-to in the debate.
Why even bother with this review? You have nothing good to say and you both look bored out of your mind. Asa brand new subscriber I'm hoping this isn't the norm, there's way too many other sites that review with some pizazz and personality.
Mark is a Nissan man first and foremost. Anyone who owns a Murano Cross Cabriolet is obviously deeply Nissan
He is a strong independent young man indeed
@@AngryWalter *waves finger in sassy manner* He don't need no woman
He is compromised
A deeply closeted Nissan man, that old lump of coal.
@@AngryWalterso brave and stunning 🥰🥰🥰
I have seen fake vents and artificial aero , but this could be the first time I’ve ever seen what are essentially red paint-on fake tow hooks. I’m disgusted and impressed. they’ll say it’s just a fun styling cue, but that’s 100% them trying to simulate the look of red tow hooks without actually putting on tow hooks. Amazing
electric tape on that shit immediately
Once the CVT fails, you won't even see them.
I actually didn't even notice this at first. I do think it looks pretty stylish overall, but after your comment I can't un-see the fake tow hooks. The fake tow hooks kind of summarize/represent these off-road packages in a nutshell - Cosmetics designed to make you think you're adventurous as you drive to Starbucks.
Or spray paint more. Own it. Like in an ironic way. Ask Alanis.
@@panzer_TZ More likely going to Dollar General.
1.5 3 cylinder variable compression & CVT. What could go wrong
And no skid plates, these will die mall parking crawling.
and a turbo...
Wet belt as well?
Right! Just get a Rav4 Adventure.
An old coworker had a 2023 as his outside sales vehicle, actually he has had two or is on his third, cant remember. Anyways, the first one with the 3cy turbo never gave him issues and put 120k miles on it in a year, hard miles too. He would drive that thing at 80-85mph for hours at a time.
I needed the rock creek model because Target installed a speed bump
lmao
dead
Whomever is in charge of roof racks at Nissan is the one carrying that brand, and has been for years. Imagine an Xterra without a roof rack. Terrible, right? But now look at a 2011-ish Frontier vs a Frontier Pro-4X, the roof rack is what makes it look good. I'd argue the same goes for the current Pathfinder vs Pathfinder Rock Creek and now the Rogue vs the Rogue Rock Creek. Those beefy tubular roof racks are carrying a lot of the aesthetic weight for these vehicles. So once again; Mr./Mrs. Roof Rack Designer, we salute you as the true load-bearing hero that you are.
hurts fuel economy and NVH though
😂😂😂😂
So no underbody protection, additional ride height, or suspension changes. Got it.
Yep, my first thought was, you can get the same level of capability if you just put those same tires on any other trim. No need to waste money on the rock creek.
Its a soft-roader, perfect for someone that is spending 99% of the time on the highway and 1% of the time on fireroads at a camp site. Its comfortable, good fuel economy, handles fine, and 8.2" of ground clearance thanks to its low overhangs is sufficient. The 360 camera and front view on fire roads is good, and the AWD systems are so advanced now this had no issues going through what just about anyone would ACTUALLY put this through on a camping trip with the family... and it looks cool.
in a sense it's the most honest offroad package I've seen. it knows you're just gonna whip it into the Arby's parking lot most of the time
@@umadachi Its a Nissan; Church's Chicken.
@@BoopSnoot thats dumb. Any suv can go camping. This is for people who feel better buying fake styling queues.
My salesman was great, and so honest. When I told him I could afford $999/month he talked me down to the SV model for $799 so I can afford to replace the VC turbo every three years! Talk about customer focused!
Remember: the dealership is your friend!
Salesperson: Welcome to the Nissan dealership, how can I help you.
Buyer: I have bad credit.
Salesperson: Altima or Rogue?
lol
Buddy of mine wanted a Rogue few years back and we went to the dealership to get one. He’s super good with his finances and the whole reason he wanted a Rogue was because they were doing five year term financing at 0.99%. We were in the finance office and they pulled out the credit report and it came back as a perfect 900.
The lady actually said “Oh wow, that’s a first”.
Nailed it !
So stupid. Buy an SR5 4Runner.
I just bought one. Five thousand down and in 108 months this baby will be all mine.
9 years on a car. That’s so horrible it’s funny
Didn’t know credit scores could be sub 200; does the repo man follow you, not if but when it’s on the wrecker.
Ah, the venerable Talltima
Back in the 1990’s we were really roughing it. We would go tent camping with the kids in a ’87 Chrysler 5th Avenue with anemic air conditioning. The 318 V8 and auto trans got us thru anything. I cannot image exploring the outdoors in a lifestyle vehicle with a three cylinder variable compression engine linked to a CVT made by Nissan.
The latest CVT is called the CVT-X, its torque rating is very high. Its a dual pump chain style unit, just like in the Subaru Wilderness line, which are similar soft-road vehicles. And I'm guessing you're aware, its not cylinders that matter its horsepower and torque. The engine makes 205hp and 225ftlbs of torque at low RPM, more than the inline-6 in my old Jeep, and more than enough to power this relatively lightweight AWD vehicle.
@@BoopSnoot those are great numbers, but has there been any history with this powertrain? I want there to be a reliable and affordable crossover, but Nissan’s CVTs have a bad reputation for a reason.
On the other hand, I really like the brown exterior color. I hope more automakers get onboard with this and the recent sandy/gold colors we’ve seen in Mazda CX-50 and Honda Civics.
@@BoopSnoot Amount of cylinders and displacement ABSOLUTELY MATTER. It tells you by how much the engine is being OVERTAXED. So the lower the displacement the harder it is working. The harder it is working (especially with a turbo) the shorter its life span. Add onto that all the bullshit technology like "variable compression" and pair it with a CVT and you have a turd sandwich. Hey if it floats your goat go for it but i'd rather pay a little extra for peace of mind that comes with reliability. Like Toyota or Honda...
@@GOLD_FEVER lol ok grandpa... turbos are mainstream and its variable compression so its never overtaxed
@@BoopSnoot You don't sound like a Nissan shill at all.
The compression and gear ratios are variable, but the failure rate is consistent…
You guys are lucky you have a large and loyal fanbase. The amount of existing knowledge about your show and cars in general needed to understand this level of sarcasm would leave any rando shopping for a car scratching their heads.
Never change guys!
They did get a little carried away in this one. But driving home they already reviewed the car and they were just covering the trim, it made sense
3:07 - Honda Rogue Trail Sport - I wish Acura made a version so I could go glamping in it.
Just picked one of these up and I'm ready to hit the trails. Traded in my restored 1998 TJ with a five-speed for something with, let's just say, A little more nut? 🥜
3 cyl turbo, CVT, Nissan build quality. What could go wrong?
You made a fantastic choice! The Nissan will chew through any offroading whether it's a logging road all the way to extreme rock crawling. Nissan Strong!! 💪
Yeah, that old TJ is such a drag. Especially restored....
Aren’t these trims mostly a response to most CUVs all looking like blobs. The “outdoor” thing is an attempt to get the cars to look a bit more brawny, and to help their owners forget their suburban cookie cutter existence. If anything, companies should just make their base models more square and save themselves the complexity of an extra trim line.
Re-make the Cube but put an engine and transmission in it that isn't complete ass (impossible challenge).
I want to love the Cube but damn those Micra underpinnings just destroy it for me.
@@deanchur Bring back the Honda Element, by gum
Wow, I loved the music at the end. I also love your outbursts in these videos. They catch me by surprise and make me laugh every time
Mark is head to toe in his Patagonia off road appearance package. 😂
"Get my supper ready!" 🤣
Fake recovery hooks? that's a new low.
Makes me wonder whether it even has a real one. 🤭
@@DowlphinI mean it’s a three cylinder Nissan rogue. If you’re taking this hardcore off-roading you’re really dumb lol
Jack gives off the vibes of the guys I used to play Magic the Gathering with a decade back
Is it tuff enough to handle Martha's Vineyard?
I was not ready for that phone call 🤣
Incredible film my legends. I'm waiting for the Nissan Rogue ROCK LOBSTER PACKAGE 🪨🦞
I'm surprised you never talk about the Mitsubishi Outlander and how it's a Rouge but with a longer warranty.
Last gen Rogue unfortunately, gets the old engine, old transmission, and old infotainment. Nissan wouldn't give them the new stuff, otherwise I'd be driving a Outlander now as they look great IMO.
5:20 LMAO I had the same reaction, I always love Marks deadpan deliveries. I bet he couldn't contain himself when he heard Nissan and Honda were teaming up
It's kind of sad how cvt's blowing up 10 years ago almost completely destroyed Nissan.
They need to pull a hyundai and offer a great warranty to earn peoples trust. Everyone wants nissan to make great vehicles again.
To use modern lingo, that was before the technology really blew up. 🤪
I have driven this car numerous times here in Japan, where it is called the X-Trail; it is primarily sold as a hybrid (e-4ORCE). The difference that hybrid engine makes is massive. It goes from an underwhelming noisy car to downright luxurious.
I own a 2023 Rogue special edition and I love it. I haven driven over 20k km without any issues. Everything in the car just works and is very intuitive to use. The engine and cvt transmission work really well in the city and the highway. I used to drive an F150 before and the 10sp transmission was the worst. I much prefer the cvt in the Rogue. I live in Toronto and both the Rav4 and CRV are being stolen left and right. Subaru has that awful center screen and Mazda doesn't offer lane centering and remote start on the key fob. I will take my Rogue over all these other vehicles anytime.
It's not a bad vehicle, enthusiasts just need something to hate on it
Toronto car thief have better taste in car than you do. 😂
Just make sure to stay on top of maintenance. Turbo engines and CVTs do not take kindly to neglect. Probably do the CVT service every 30k
Nothing like a new "front fascia" and some red emblems to help me out when I go off-road! Thanks Nissan!
We talk a lot about Nissan reliability but it all still feels analogous to me. No one ever has real knowledge on the numbers other than fringe examples. Even when I go to the junk yard, multiple yards, its harder to find examples of Nissan cars than it is to find Toyota, GM, or Ford examples. Hard to say if thats just a sales number thing, but Nissan sales aren’t so low that they’d be nearly absent from where everyone pretends they end up
I've has the opposite not many toyota some more nissans and rows of altimas.
I just feel bad for Honda. 😢
Mark's enthusiastic excitement for this product...er...SUV, has got me questioning which car I should buy next.....I thought I knew...but now...thanks to Marks excitement for this suv.....I will have to decide between it, or a RAM TRX. Tell me which one should I get.
I once loved Nissan. I had a 1989 Pulsar, 1996 Maxima SE manual, and later another 1995 Maxima SE manual. I haven't trusted their products since the early 2000s. I hope that day returns.
I owe nothing but Nissans since the mid 90s and they’ve given me no issues at all. All these people complaining about their CVT problems are full of it.
Same. I loved almost anything they put from the 80's to early 2010's. I even had a Infiniti G35 at one point.
That car was amazing fun from top to bottom.
My gf now has a Rogue and we both hate it.
@RONderluck that's great to hear! One of my neighbors has been leasing Nissans one after another. But never keeps them. I figured they were good for a while but not worth keeping. I appreciate your feedback.
@ right because mostly women drive rogues
Had a 2006 350Z but after a couple of years the interior looked like shit from normal wear and tear. And the clutch pedal wore quickly.
Kind of surprised it wasn't mentioned The reason that people buy Nissans are because they offer more for less. Do Honda and Toyota make better products probably but this will be significantly cheaper after discounting. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get this for under 30 grand this time next year.
So looking forward to the new Hondassanubishi models.
With the 2 1/2 cylinders supercharged turbos and 3 wheel drive. 😂
The CVT makes the engine sound like it's bouncing off of a really slow rev limiter.
continuously variable rev limiter
I really wish they just stopped with the fake gear shifts. It's a CVT, let it be.
I had this decision to make, Toyota RAV4, Honda CR-V, Nissian Roge and many more. I drove a slew of them, watched a boat load of videos on reviews and in the end I went with a 2024 Subaru Forester Wilderness. The safety factor, and CR having the Forester in theor top 5 for the past 10 years helped. So far, 8k miles and not one issue. Even though Subaru America says the CVT fluid never needs changing, Subaru Japan says do it at 50k or so. I follow what Subaru Japan says. Mr. Subaru here on Yt recommends the same thing, change it.
First time taking the first comment!
I love how this is the only channel that points out how pointless these offroad trims are for the crossover space.
I too have been saying this while working at Kia Georgia. The sportage and the telluride sx pro has always left me feeling like I’m deceiving customers into buying a fake product not designed to do what it’s marketed as.
The Big Altima Energy reference is the real gem of this video
I hate all crossovers, they compromise on everything and excel at nothing. They are seriously pointless vehicles but they sell because Americans love a station wagon but will never admit it.
Fully agree @@viper306m
@@viper306mthey are basically station wagons, so it's just the fact that they ride a bit higher that has you bothered?
@@viper306m Settle down
You don't have to point out the uselessness of an "appearance" package. No really. It's sort of obvious.
I'm pretty sure this class of SUV is considered compact and not mid-sized.
“This is an incredible car, one of the best”
(uncontrollable laughter)
Is this Nissan’s death knell, pushing out tens of unforgettable models before Honda turns them all into econoboxes?
Love the honesty. Respect the Geese.
I will speak a bit from enthusiast/consumer perspective.
I am from Croatia, Europe.
Currently I drive 2024 Suzuki S-Cross Allgrip MT6, 1.4t mild hybrid, bit of a peach, that car.
However, last year my parents bought 2023 Nissan Xtrail/Rouge with the 1.5 VCT engine 163hp in Europe, only sold as FWD. That car in top trim is 44K euros, my Suzuki is just under 29K euros, just a bit of context. Rav4 and CRV are hybrid only and cost 50K-60K(Xtrail has hybrid option which is around 50K top trim). Also Ive just driven my friends 2023 2.0L 165hp AT6 CX5 which is midspec around 40K euros.
Knowing all this, Xtrail/Rogue in Europe is very price competitive and as we all know chassis is full of aluminum, they use acousting glass etc. And that car FEELS premium in normal driving, highway... that Mazda CX5 cannot quite reach(6speed in Mazda feels no better in normal driving than CVT in Nissan, both respond to padels fine enough, but VC-T is torquier, more refined and uses less fuel). Also, warranty on the car is 6years, 150.000km and our Nissan dealer says they havent had SINGLE blown trans in any Nissan last 6, 7 years. We have great experiences from 2.0L Qashqai's before(2 of them, above 200.000km each, no major issues except new exhaust and some interior trim). New Xtrail feels as quality as any other nice crossover with good propilot assist, great insulation and nice materials with competitive pricing is just good deal and great car. Every time I drive it I do feel money well spent.
Both my Suzuki and that Nissan are ceramic coated and we take care of cars. But our experiences so far with Nissans in Europe are very good(Xtrail for EU is built in Japan, as is, I think Rogue for US, I guess same factory). Really possible that Nissan sends worse cars to US than Europe?
Bronco Sport Badlands is the answer in this class
Does rust come from the factory?
I just want to know who decided to brand it "Rock Creek."
I'm sure Rock Creek is a relatively common name for a few places, but it is perhaps most famously the name of a giant city park that splits Washington, D.C. in two, with the eponymous creek finding its way to the Potomac.
Nissan decided to give its "rugged" trim a name that equates to city driving along a parkway. And maybe a visit to the zoo.
Maybe it was the only alternative to Nissan South Park.
I'd honestly like to see a '25 Kicks Rock Creek. The Kicks is now available in AWD, 360 camera, very short overhang on front and rear bumpers, and has 8.4" of ground clearance (more than the Rogue) stock already. Just put on the same wheels from the Rogue Rock Creek on a SR trim, change a few badges and colors, and call it a day. Inexpensive to produce and would be a nice option over the huge wheel rubber band tires they currently offer on the SR trim since that trim is not offered in anything but 19" wheels.
Why are all these car manufacturers acting every customer needs a hardcore, rocking crawling SUV. The ones that really do, are NOT buying a nissan rouge lol
The same reason people buy a Wrangler with lockers to take it to Aldi - pandering to people who will put down cash for something as an ego boost. SUVs just tend to be one of the most profitable segments right now.
"Incredible, one of the best."
Top 900 all-time best of all cars!
I love at the end how he just wanted to say, “get a Subaru at this point.”
My Wife owns a 2021 Rogue we got new and now has 40k miles it is surprising nice and ppl who ride in it are surprised too with how nice it is. Ppl hate Nissan for no other reason than the internet lol Her 14 rogue went 160k with no issues just maintenance and we traded that in for this rogue.
We hate Nissan due to their CVTs which blow up
A few of my family own Nissans as well and haven't had any serious issues. The CVT issue is thrown out like a blanket statement.
Ppl hate Nissan because most Nissan drivers drive it like they stole it.
21 nothing like 14; keep driving, you will see the light grasshopper !
@@shermc4587 And with these finance terms, they practically have!
The true reason Honda wants to acquire Nissan and Mitsubishi is for their CrossCabriolet technology and to rebadge the mirage as the all new Honda beat.
Three cylinder variable compression turbo mated to a CVT.. Just screams reliability.
The Rock Creek: "For the other lesbians at the trailhead."
The Rock Creek attire gives Rogue a distinctive personality variation, versus most competitors. Soft ride, soft inputs, and generally average performance? Seems like an appealing way to smooth out the fatigue of traffic, errands, and commutes on life's coarse and congested roadways.
Definitely need to offroad with this towed behind my 120k "overlanding" Mercedes Sprinter, and some 10k e-bikes.
This is a great rental vehicle and if you get this used with warranty and documents that prove all work done on it. And also get extended warranty and sell after warranty is up.
Everything you said here is completely wrong
3:08 "Mark, we're about to set off in the Honda Rogue trail Sport"
Hilarious. Now it can go the same places any fwd car can!
I love this new Honda Rogue.
Oh, my word... another one. (for the Algorithm) I can't wait for Chevrolet to release the Trax "HammerCracker" Package.
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Its a box... but, its a good box.
I am curious, though, about the VC engine... Will it last longer than the tranmisssion?
Well Done.
Not likely. They replaced an unreliable CVT (which is now a bit better) with an unreliable VC turbo.
You get a lot for the money with a Nissan. I still have my '16 Maxima I bought new with 167K miles.
Two more payments and the Cabriolet will be payed off. I’ll take a hard look at the Rogue. Jack mentioned Nissan had some amazing financing terms right now. Winning!
So my question is what model rogue is the rock creek equal to as far as luxuries? Is it a base S or a SV OR A PLATINUM. To me it looks like a SV with roof racks I could be wrong though
I can’t believe I’m saying this but Nissan makes some nice looking vehicles. Especially their interiors. Too bad most have their notoriously bad CVTs.
Their CVTs haven't had major issues since 2017. This has the new CVT-X which has proven to be reliable.
since it seems a little offroad light maybe it should've been called the Rogue 'Puddle-Jumper' edition ... "guaranteed to get you across puddles less than two inches deep!"
How is the transmission
I don't understand, what else did they do beyond the AT tires? Also what does it supposedly do over buying a regular Rogue and using your own AT tires for your soft road adventures?
Nothing, but this comes with standard AWD, looks neat, nicer wheel/tire package for softroading, roof rack that can hold 250lbs, front camera on with hill decent control, and well a 360 camera in general. They took an SV Premium trim and gave it a styling and mild offroad package, which is fine everything is a compromise. If they lifted it 2" higher it would be over 10" tall and it would ruin the handling.
If you want a very capable in all conditions, mainly on-road vehicle just get a Forester, old or new.
The SJ generation with the turbo blows all of these out of the water in performance too, in addition to the superior all wheel drive.
Think of this w/ the Honda eCVT and engine...unfortunately, won't see this till 2027.
What are you talking about?
@@RONderluck honda and nissan merger fool
@@RONderluck Honda merges (buys) Nissan...Honda puts their engine/transmission in Nissan vehicle (see Toyota > Mazda)...no more crappy engine/CVT pairing!
@ that is not going to happen you need to stop it
@@RONderluck How do you know? Honda merger seems real. Either way any changes will take many years so who knows?
On the flip side - in a segment where there's no real dynamic difference, and the buyers are people who don't know or care - this is arguably the coolest looking and most "expressive" seeming entry in the segment. In some ways, I don't think a CR-V buyer would be cross-shopping this, and vice versa, just purely based on the looks and vibe. This one feels much more fun, youthful, and interesting - whether or not it actually is. I don't hate it.
That sad music at the end .. is that the honda nissan merger theme music ??
I thought it was called the Rock Ridge for a sec... "WE'RE GONNA NEED A SHITLOAD OF DIMES"
"Rock Ridge! Rock Ridge! Splendid!" -Hedley Lamar
I always liked the Rogue for what it is. The problem is that stupid transmission, which I heard has largely been fixed for the current generation. I had one a few companies back, 2018 model year, and they never had transmission issues, but that could be due to actual proper on time maintenance in addition to living in a cold state.
I go to mountain bike trails heads and way back country trails to backpack on in my type R. MOST wilderness stuff is accessible by MOST cars. You need an adventure package vehicle so that other people know that you are an adventure person. Otherwise, how else would they know?!
Exactly. An old coworker of mine had a 5 speed Impreza Sport (no Outback, no Crosstrek) and used to take it anywhere he needed to go to go mountain biking. He loved it, and never really had any issue with respect to it getting where he needed it to go, which included some light trails. The whole crossover trend, in addition to the outdoors packages, is pandering to people who want to broadcast an image, not because it's necessary.
1:20 these don't appear to be faux beadlock. Jack, as pennance please 2 hours of Porsche reviews to atone for your Nissins.
Why no Outlander PHEV yet😊
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looks very tough to tackle the mall parking lot
I have a little story to share. A friend of mine works for a dealership that has a Honda dealership and a Nissan dealership. He told me that an engine or transmission swap out at the Honda dealership would be a big deal. It almost never happens. They have to special order it. It takes forever because of the shipping. Yada, yada, yada. - He says so this one day, I had to go over to the Nissan dealership. In the back they had a bunch of engines and transmissions. He said wow, you have that many swaps scheduled?! They said, we have a few on deck. The rest are just good to keep on hand. Because we do them a lot.... - Enough said. lol
According to the numbers, in 2024 Toyota replaced nearly seven times as many engines as Nissan. Yes, Toyota sells more vehicles, but enough said. lol
@ Is that number being skewed by the recall on the new engine in the new Tundra? - Not that they get a pass for that issue. But if that’s an issue way outside the norm and skewed the numbers, then it should be noted ya know. Also like you pointed out Toyota sells way more as well. So that might have a far lower percentage, and still pass them in numbers.
BIG ALTIMA ENERGY 🗿
Holy crap, the bots are working overtime this morning!
Beep boop. 🤖
Do they offer fake tow straps by chance? I think that would help to sell the outdoorsiness. Take it to the next level.
Where is the Booty cheek creek edition?
The Rogue in this video has more dirt on the bottom than 99 percent of other Rogues will ever have.
I see a lot of Nissan's in my area
8:45 Ii don't care all that much about reconnecting with nature. I want a ride that will get me through the worst a Minnesota winter can throw at me, not cost a crap-ton of money, and has a pretty decent stereo to boot. If I can get it in a cool shade of red, so much the better. That's why I'm on my third CX-5 lease, and will likely buy the one I have outright in a couple of years.
Needs the 2.0T to justify the price. The 1.5T should be in the current Kicks and Sentra.
I know I'll find a bunch of these parked outside my local EMS station for all those medics that need to "offroad" to get to work.
SHOULD have called it Rockridge Blazing Saddles Edition
Mongo only pawn in game of life.
Was supper ready and what was it? Teri, get your act together!
The only company that puts a modicum of effort into their soft road shitbox trim is Subaru. You get a lift, tires, different bumpers, CVT cooler, more aggressive final drive ratio, retuned torque vectoring maps, increased tow rating, increased load capacity roof bars, as well as all of the appearance bits.
Everyone else just does appearance, tires, and maybe some off road modes.
Did he say Honda? 3:08
GET MY SUPPER READY I SAID
My dad saw this and thought it was a redesign of the 2025 model. I had to try explain to him it's just a trim level.
"Honda" Rogue Trail Sport...?
What I find pretty hilarious is towards the end. It states if you don’t have any disposable income. $35,000 financed for 60 months at the average interest rate is close to $700 a month. If that is 10% of your net income you’re making $7000 a month yeah that’s pretty good.I feel like automotive journalist is really don’t understand the cost of vehicles and what people can actually afford. A $70,000 vehicle is going to be $1200 a month easily. Which is now approaching to being the average.
Add insurance and maintenance costs.
I had to do the math myself because I didn't believe you at first and wow. Let's just say I'm glad I traded my car when I did to get that sweet 2% APR. It's paid off now and I have NO desire to get back under the bank. 1200/mo for a new vehicle is robbery but it's fact that most people buying large SUVs or trucks are paying that amount unless they've brought equity to the table.
@ yup exactly! 👍🏻
@@scurfie2343 absolutely
You need a decent down payment these days. I am in the market and honestly, I have thought about waiting another year to have a much larger down payment. I just don't like having massive car payments on something that loses value.
Personally said it about the Pathfinder Rock Creek and the same with that Rogue - they’re infallible proof that Americans are dumb enough to spend extra money for an appearance package - albeit the Suburban Z71 is my typical go-to in the debate.
Why even bother with this review? You have nothing good to say and you both look bored out of your mind. Asa brand new subscriber I'm hoping this isn't the norm, there's way too many other sites that review with some pizazz and personality.