Battle of Mobei 119 BC - Han-Xiongnu War DOCUMENTARY

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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  5 років тому +732

    Let's fight about the origins of the Xiongnu #2

    • @bobettethedestroyerthebuil1034
      @bobettethedestroyerthebuil1034 5 років тому +161

      Kings and Generals xiongnu je srbija

    • @Flow86767
      @Flow86767 5 років тому +75

      Xiongnu were created from Walpole!
      It was Walpole

    • @ozkul_arda200
      @ozkul_arda200 5 років тому +66

      Xiongnu was belgian.

    • @kokunglim175
      @kokunglim175 5 років тому +12

      Thanks for Asia Pacific jungle people war story 😊🌏👍😁.. Next video please. India. Myanmar. Thailand. Malaysia. Combodia and Indo-china war story please 😊🙏

    • @arminbiberovic
      @arminbiberovic 5 років тому +39

      they are serbs

  • @liltigris4335
    @liltigris4335 5 років тому +253

    Huo Qubing may be one of the most legendary generals in the whole China history. He died at only 23 years old. (Shit nowadays a 23-year-old boy can be only a fresh graduate) But before his death, he won so many battles, captured so many kings and conquered so much land. His successful expeditions, along with many other out-standing generals, laid the foundation of a significant part of today's northern China. If I can achieve this much in my life I would die as a happy man. ( Still 23 years is way too short XD)

    • @TKandWG
      @TKandWG 5 років тому +7

      Su Lie (courtesy name Dingfang) is one of my favorite generals, I think he probably way more legendary than Huo Qubing, throughout his career he managed to destroy three enemy countries for his lord including Baekje and both the Eastern and Western Turkic Khaganates, what's more impressing is that he was not just a commander but also a warrior who often fought furiously in battles alongside with his lower ranking soldiers, just like Zhang Liao at Battle of Xiaoyao Ford.

    • @MrLi-fd4hs
      @MrLi-fd4hs 5 років тому +6

      At that time, the Chinese began to get married at the age of thirteen or four and received training from adults.

    • @juliannasreddin5226
      @juliannasreddin5226 3 роки тому +7

      Cao Cao is my favourite.

    • @user-zk9nd4fz2h
      @user-zk9nd4fz2h 3 роки тому +6

      @@juliannasreddin5226 LiShiMin(Taizong of the Tang) him self is legendary too.

    • @juliannasreddin5226
      @juliannasreddin5226 3 роки тому +3

      张蛋疼 Yes definitely. Chinese history is underrated.

  • @AmorFati72
    @AmorFati72 5 років тому +126

    Huo QuBing basically launched several covert military operations, travelling 1000 miles deep into Gobi desert and surprise attacked the Xiongnu. It is hard to imagine how could he be so precious in attacking spots and traveling in the desert...almost felt like he had a GPS at that time lol

    • @thewanderingrey8830
      @thewanderingrey8830 5 років тому +34

      He probably had captured Xiongnu guides with him. Just like the Romans, the Han practice capturing/kidnapping barbarians and turn them into military guide, scouts, or intepreter.

    • @fenixlee5419
      @fenixlee5419 5 років тому +26

      he captured some xiongnus, and... make them into chinese army, I dont know how he did it, but the history book said HuoQubing use xiongnus as his solders

    • @thewanderingrey8830
      @thewanderingrey8830 5 років тому +28

      @@fenixlee5419 not that hard really. The Chinese promised defecting Xiongnus things that we still value today; property, stability from abundant crops (meaning abundant food from farms instead of raiding and stealing and killing Chinese) and share of money from looted/destroyed enemy property. It's known from Chinese records that defected Xiongnus are usually told to abandon their nomadic lifestyle and relocate to capital for "security" and surveillance.

    • @luckmichael
      @luckmichael 3 роки тому

      i think he is luck

    • @lppoqql
      @lppoqql 3 роки тому +4

      He had spies

  • @espadac4746
    @espadac4746 5 років тому +521

    I'm kinda shook to find out that Huo Qubing was the same age as me currently (23) when he commanded tens of thousands of imperial Han troops to wreck the entire Xiongnu confederacy. o.O Makes me wonder what am I doing with my life currently..

    • @lordives7181
      @lordives7181 5 років тому +89

      well u still have many years ahead. Much more than he had. It's never too late.

    • @MrLi-fd4hs
      @MrLi-fd4hs 5 років тому +56

      At that time, the Chinese began to marry at the age of thirteen or four and received training from adults.

    • @xwhitebirdx6575
      @xwhitebirdx6575 5 років тому +62

      Blackparanoia Mehmet the emperor was also 21 as he conquered constantinople

    • @Bazerald777
      @Bazerald777 5 років тому +21

      Well do you want to leave the Earth as soon as him?

    • @evrensaygn1017
      @evrensaygn1017 5 років тому +14

      He had the opportunity, all you can do is do the best you can.

  • @CogitoEdu
    @CogitoEdu 5 років тому +1136

    Last time I was this early the Huns were still the Xiongnu

    • @raymondhu7720
      @raymondhu7720 5 років тому +87

      Yup, and so were the Mongols, Turks and other guys

    • @TheOverlordGirl
      @TheOverlordGirl 5 років тому +12

      Oh my God. 很好笑 😂

    • @HVLLOWS1999
      @HVLLOWS1999 5 років тому +3

      @@danieltabin6470 who were they seriously, i want to know!

    • @turbishon7770
      @turbishon7770 5 років тому +39

      Darth Saiyan They were probably Multicultural empire composed of turks mongols etc. And the ruling class were probably turk.

    • @HVLLOWS1999
      @HVLLOWS1999 5 років тому +4

      @@turbishon7770
      I see so like a nomadic coalition of people's from the steps looking for greener pastures. Thats confusing but history is anyways.
      I know the Huns scared their faces to promote fear in their enemies, did any of the peoples you listed do this on a normal basis. If anyone of them did yhen the Huns were most likely comprised of a majority of those guys. If all the step people did that then never mind. Tnx for the insite though. Much appreciated.

  • @user-gt8bl9wx5d
    @user-gt8bl9wx5d 5 років тому +1071

    hello everyone, I am the one who suggested this video.

    • @alanmike6883
      @alanmike6883 5 років тому +73

      Thank you 👍

    • @midshipman8654
      @midshipman8654 5 років тому +47

      大火 good choice

    • @istvansipos9940
      @istvansipos9940 5 років тому +20

      hello, Two Guys (if I read your name correctly)
      nice suggestion, interesting battle

    • @Scout887
      @Scout887 5 років тому +42

      Chinese history is underrepresented, is it possible to make a video about chinese armament in ancient times? What kind of bows and crossbows were used? What kinds of polearms? How were the troops organized in battle?

    • @user-gt8bl9wx5d
      @user-gt8bl9wx5d 5 років тому +4

      Hh Ii😂

  • @rayray6490
    @rayray6490 5 років тому +169

    The Han under Wudi chased the Xiongnu to the point of them using the Gobi desert as their defensive barrier against Huo's and Wei's pursuit. The Han was on a another level of badass when in their peak

    • @papercat2599
      @papercat2599 4 роки тому +22

      True

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 3 роки тому +5

      Anyone think Wudi would beat Marius or Sulla in battle? I just think the discipline of Wudi's troops and the levies he could raise would be too much for Rome, but if they kept fighting Rome would force a stalemate.

    • @saint8257
      @saint8257 2 роки тому +40

      @N Gaming Haha say that to the Battle of Carrhae. Do you know what one of the things the Han Empire was most famous for inventing early on? Crossbows.
      At one point by late Han era many armies consisted of 30 - 50% crossbowmen because it's fucking OP.
      Crossbow doesn't need as much training as a bow does, and even so; they can still field more peasants with just enough training to shoot a conventional bow at roughly the right range and you have rains of arrows from the skies and rains of arrows flying straight at you by continuous rotating volley fire which produce way more power than a normal bow would once they get in range.
      Also I'll mention that Han's crossbows are notoriously more powerful than Parthian's bows, and since Parthian's bows could penetrate against Roman's armor and shields, as is proven historically, well...
      And to say that Han's armies are not as disciplined is a stretch. They're very organized and used advanced tactics that the Europeans only learned and started to use during the Middle Ages and they also used formations that are very similar to Hoplites. They also has extensive experience in warfare (as you can see from the long period of Chinese history, especially during the Han era).
      Let's just say I don't think it's going to end very well for the Romans turtling tactics with the shields.

    • @saint8257
      @saint8257 2 роки тому +3

      @N Gaming You have no idea what you're talking about.
      Go do your own research maybe since I don't feel like wasting time doing it for a random person on UA-cam. Information is at our fingertips but you're too lazy to even do basic research to back up your nonsensical claims. 😂

    • @monkeyseemonkeydo1794
      @monkeyseemonkeydo1794 2 роки тому +4

      @N Gaming Its pointless to compare military strength because a Dynasty or kingdom's military might changes back and forth like seasons, sometimes significant change even within generations. What's more meaningful is Culture and historical value. What people in the present can learn from our past. These are topics with much more substance. And if you were to compare Legion tactics and formation the Roman legion became outdated before the coming of middle ages. Also "the crossbow never became popular outside of China'. The crossbow was extensively used by European nations right up to when guns became efficient enough to take over them.

  • @philRminiatures
    @philRminiatures 5 років тому +218

    I know almost nothing of the history of China, so it was with great pleasure that I watched this video ...As always informative, beautiflly done, well illustrated...👍👍👍

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  5 років тому +4

      Thank you very much :-)

    • @MasterMalrubius
      @MasterMalrubius 5 років тому +4

      @@KingsandGenerals I agree. Entertaining as well as informative.

    • @user-zk2fu1nn8y
      @user-zk2fu1nn8y 5 років тому +1

      中國的核心思想:【儒家思想】、【漢文化】!! 而且以【漢人文化】為主體。
      GOOGLE translation:China's core ideas: [Confucianism], [Chinese culture]!! And [Han culture] as the main body.

    • @syjiang
      @syjiang 5 років тому +1

      Yeah it is interesting. I encourage you to read more. The scale of this particular conflict was pretty impressive for that time and took generations to resolve. Han China had to undertake substantial internal reorganization of its economy and manpower to project and sustain the massive 300,000 forces into a barren hostile terrain without the benefit of river/ocean transport. The cavalry raids also stood out.

    • @user-jx7uh8in4q
      @user-jx7uh8in4q 4 роки тому

      @@user-zk2fu1nn8y 你就像一个极端穆斯林

  • @Dragons_Armory
    @Dragons_Armory 5 років тому +131

    Hou Qubing was so young when he died, only 23- 24 years old.
    But even by then he already won through many difficult battles. In the end the Han dynasty's commitment in their northern warpath paid off. Well guarded column of supplies and deep penetration into the heart of the steppe lands.
    Hard to think that before most people matured he already made his name and die. The ages of some of history's warriors and conquerors really astounds me sometimes.

    • @user-gw7im8fu8p
      @user-gw7im8fu8p 5 років тому +10

      Yes, there are many young and famous generals in ancient China who died very early, such as Xiang Yu, Sun Ce, Xu Da, Zhou Yu, Huo Qubing, Han Xin...

    • @XuerLi
      @XuerLi 5 років тому +7

      Yeah but I don't like his arrogant characters,he killed Li Guang's son Li Gan, who was probably one of the best warriors of Han dynasty and received no penalty due to his high status.

    • @Dragons_Armory
      @Dragons_Armory 5 років тому +9

      @@XuerLi He has an arrogant streak, yes, and aloof at times. However I am not sure if the combination of his birth (and his need to prove himself) also made him a good general. His ruthless is his focus on getting the job done. It should be said that a great amount of Patton's own soldiers outright hated him but he too was very focused on securing Sicily and taking the fight into Germany. As such he was able to be more of a threat to Axis powers more than most of the allied generals in the western theater.
      As for the morality of the decision, because I did not live during that period I think the later sources can't be relied on to paint a good picture of the events that led up to it. Because Hou was a proven general- implicitly his action was overlooked. And that in itself is wrong simply because of the hindsight's justifications. However I will point to many historical cases where insubordination leads to disasters. Look no further than Bellisarius' Italian campaign where he was undermined at every turn by his co-general Narses. The campaign was not only stalled but the leadership was consistently undermined with Narses encouragement, eventually most of Italy was lost after Bellisarius left the penninsula.

    • @user-yp9pg5op8j
      @user-yp9pg5op8j 5 років тому +4

      Hi Dragon's Armor! Great illustration and website! greet from China!

    • @Dragons_Armory
      @Dragons_Armory 5 років тому +1

      @@user-yp9pg5op8j thank you! Didn't know that it could be browsed in China :) Thank you so much for the kind words!!!

  • @internettroll2626
    @internettroll2626 4 роки тому +98

    18-years-old Huo Qubing's first battle, he and his 800 cavalries defeated Xiong Nu army and executed more than 2000 enemies.

    • @doringgray6952
      @doringgray6952 3 роки тому +17

      And what I'm doing with my life....

    • @shenzhenfactory2713
      @shenzhenfactory2713 8 місяців тому +3

      ​@@doringgray6952 很多人18岁还没有征服过一个女人,更不要说一个部落/国家了!😂😂😂

  • @augustc6121
    @augustc6121 5 років тому +22

    What amazes me is that a non-Chinese document video can have such an accurate description of Chinese ancient records. Kudos to the the detailed research done by the video maker. Throughout the video I can only find one graphic map mistake: when Qinshihuang united China, the main area Qin Dynasty annexed from Xiong-Nu is called He-Tao area which is the part of land south to the Yellow River and surrounded by Yellow River to the East, North , and West. This is a particularly fertile land. Later when Han Dynasty annexed the South of the great Gobi desert, the Huns were forced to move to the North of Gobi desert which has temperature dropped to minus 50 degrees in winter. This meant that the Hun’s economy was doomed, because following each blizzard, massive animals raised by the Huns would die. And the famines then caused the Hun empire to split, and a weakened and split Hun empire collapsed under further invasions from all of its enemies.
    All in all, the Han Xiong-Nu war lasted for 200 years and was a particularly difficult one on both sides to fight. In comparison, the Tang Turkish war was relatively short. 10 years after the last Turkish invasion of Tang, the great Turkish Khan Ji-li Kahn was captured south to the Gobi desert. It was recorded that before Ji-Li Kahn was captured, he was hesitating if to follow the Hun steps and moved to the North of the desert, knowing that moving to the North he will face that minus 50 degree weather for his people. He did not have the chance because the Tang calvary surprise attacked him. The late Eastern Turkish did move to the North of the Gobi desert and was then also economically doomed. The Urgurs overrun the late Eastern Turks and occupied their land, soon found that they were also cursed by the terrible weather. After a huge winter storm and a huge famine, the Ughurs wrote to the Tang court, requesting permission to move to the “former Western Turkish Land”, today’s Xing Jiang.

  • @matthewkuchinski1769
    @matthewkuchinski1769 5 років тому +284

    Chinese history has always fascinated me, especially with regard to their advancements in technology that are still to be marveled at. And this video puts into perspective how incredibly resilient the Chinese people are.

    • @GarrettPetersen
      @GarrettPetersen 5 років тому +14

      I recommend you listen to The History of China podcast. It goes through all this in much greater detail. Listen in chronological order.

    • @ivanlagrossemoule
      @ivanlagrossemoule 5 років тому +50

      ​@@VarietyGamerChannel The Romans struggled against the Huns because they were suffering from famine and a terrible situation at the time. It's a complex matter that isn't just about better armies. Empires fluctuate in power and even the Chinese struggled against Xiongnu for a long time until they finally won. In fact, this whole episode started with them losing.
      Not only that, but it's really stretching it to assume that the Hun were in fact the Xiongnu. At best you can speculate, but trying to draw such conclusions out of it is just pointless.
      Finally, military struggles are much more complex than just better armies winning. Alexander the Great absolutely steamrolled the Persians while they gave a lot of trouble to the Romans. The same Romans that defeated the Greeks.
      Yeah Chinese history is often overlooked (though the opposite often happens too), but you're pretty much stepping into fantasy at that point. And this isn't doing Chinese history any service.

    • @Normacly
      @Normacly 5 років тому +20

      @@VarietyGamerChannel Eh, no.
      The Romans repeatedly sacked the Parthian's Capital during their wars with them. The Romans couldn't simply conquered them due to huge size of the Roman Empire already. Also, unlike Han Dynasty, the Romans faced numerous enemies with Germanic tribes in the north, Parthians/nomands in the northeast/east, and Berber/Nubian raiders in the south. Yet, Roman didn't only repeatedly kept these enemies back but even routinely launched expeditions that crushed them for centuries despite constant civil wars such as in the 3rd century AD.
      @poortaiwanese
      You need to learn more about Roman warfare. Yes, the Roman favored heavy infantry but unlike traditional heavy infantry, the Roman legionnaires were designed for maneuverability. Their formation and commanding chains all focused toward maneuverability in the field of battle. Individual cohort leaders are to a great degree free to command the cohort how they like aka being able to respond quickly to any changes in the battle without having to waste time waiting for command from the general. Also, the Han Chinese traditionally suffered in the cavalry department due to the fact that their soil weren't fit for breeding strong horses. They relied on trading for horses with the steppe nomads or hiring the steppe nomads to serve as their cavalry.
      Moreover, heavy infantry are actually the best counter to the nomad light cavalry with the support of artillery and foot ranged units. The Hungarians aka being descendants of steppe nomads fielded light cavalry against the Mongols and got utterly crushed. It was only when the Hungarians begun to build more fortifications and focused more on crossbowmen and heavy infantry/cavalry did the Hungarians drove back the Mongols for good.

    • @p.c.mlucas9897
      @p.c.mlucas9897 5 років тому +3

      VarietyGamer the tang dynasty would probably have no problem crushing the byzantines but im not sure if they could win against a roman empire in its prime. Which battle did they fight parthians btw

    • @Normacly
      @Normacly 5 років тому

      Jonathan Achre Tang lost Central Asia to a Muslim army at the height of Tang Empire. Meanwhile, the Byzantine fend off the entire Muslim world despite being weaken with centuries of war against the Persians and invasions from steppe nomads.

  • @willyazis
    @willyazis 5 років тому +134

    I cannot wait to see the three kingdom era video :D

    • @AlqGo
      @AlqGo 5 років тому +9

      The warring states are more interesting!

    • @owenwu5554
      @owenwu5554 5 років тому +4

      Every rise & fall of a dynasty in China is like the Three Kingdom.

    • @s-z-l-z
      @s-z-l-z 5 років тому +2

      AL agreed!

    • @MrHuangyiping
      @MrHuangyiping 5 років тому +5

      The most described period of history in China. Can't wait to see. Thanks for contribution!

    • @juliannasreddin5226
      @juliannasreddin5226 3 роки тому

      Scots Grey That's not really accurate. Cao Cao was overall a better commander than Liu Bei and Sun Quan.

  • @rohitrai6187
    @rohitrai6187 5 років тому +49

    Huns came from among the Xiongnu probably, but it is fascinating how Xiongnu influenced so much more. Central Asia at the time was dominated by Indo-European speakers. Xiongnu themselves, and the tribes they displaced, liked Yuezhi began a westward push, and came to make the Turkic people.
    Before the Xiongnu Expansion, it was the Scythians who ruled Central Asia, having defeated the Greco-Bactrians(and pushing them to India). The Yuezhi now pushed the Scythians into India. After they formed the Kushan Empire, they themselves expanded into India.
    A few centuries later, when these outsiders had been assimilated into India, and it was ruled by Gupta Dynasty, the Huns themselves came knocking, and lead to the decline of the Gupta Empire.
    (A part of the Huns too were assimilated into India later)

    • @user-tw7kq5ti8y
      @user-tw7kq5ti8y 5 років тому +9

      Claystead The YueZhi were northern tibeto- burmese ppls their language and culture were almost identical to Qiang(another tibeto- burmese) ppl according to The Book of Han.

    • @protocetus499
      @protocetus499 4 роки тому

      @@user-tw7kq5ti8y yuezhi are pure caucasoids you dumb

    • @pasterofmuppets666
      @pasterofmuppets666 2 роки тому +4

      @@protocetus499 bwahahahahaha

  • @gilberttan6421
    @gilberttan6421 5 років тому +21

    Huo Qubing's short but glorious life needs its own documentary. Definitely one of my favorite Chinese generals

  • @Flow86767
    @Flow86767 5 років тому +190

    We need more video of Chinese history and battles!

    • @theghosthero6173
      @theghosthero6173 5 років тому +9

      yes ! the red turban revolt would be great, or anything regarding the Ming really. The invented so much stuff yet people barely talk about it. The conquest of Yunnan would be especially interesting .

    • @barbiquearea
      @barbiquearea 5 років тому +15

      Hopefully they will get to the Three Kingdoms period as there were quite a number of great battles in that era.

    • @theghosthero6173
      @theghosthero6173 5 років тому +3

      @@barbiquearea yeah but nah, it's overrated and makes to big of a shadow for later Chinese battles, like the war between the tang dynasty and the Tibetan empire for example

    • @_berat.ugur_3089
      @_berat.ugur_3089 3 роки тому

      not chinse history. this video is turk history

    • @Flow86767
      @Flow86767 3 роки тому

      @@_berat.ugur_3089 It can be both?...

  • @MalayArcher
    @MalayArcher 5 років тому +337

    Mods used in TW: Attila engine:
    Han army mod
    Aztec graphic mod
    Kavoo dust mod
    GEMFX
    That's it. :)
    Best wishes,
    Malay Archer.

    • @aimanmarzuqi4804
      @aimanmarzuqi4804 5 років тому +5

      Terima Kasih brader, machinima kau memang selalu gempak.

    • @MalayArcher
      @MalayArcher 5 років тому +4

      Aiman Marzuqi terima kasih

    • @yohopirate
      @yohopirate 5 років тому +1

      Where can I find the Han army mod

    • @adrianng8367
      @adrianng8367 5 років тому

      Bagusnya, tq bang

  • @zoekarlsealland3139
    @zoekarlsealland3139 5 років тому +320

    Fantastic!Your documentary are more precise than most of Chinese documentary that about this period !
    and far more than the textbook. Since childhood we Chinese have learned Han-Xiongnu war through ways. But the history textbook provide few information and even the history of Han dynasty. What's worst, many soap opera have romantified its history, so your video really a Great Joy to me, thank you to you all. Tomorrow I will translate the subtitle to Chinese. It really joyful because my birthday is in this week.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  5 років тому +29

      Happy birthday.

    • @Geobacter
      @Geobacter 5 років тому +19

      Wait a second... there are soap operas about ancient Chinese history? O.o

    • @davidrosner6267
      @davidrosner6267 5 років тому +2

      I’ve never heard the story of this war. Thank you for describing it in such detail.

    • @starrodkirby
      @starrodkirby 5 років тому +25

      @@Geobacter They involve mystical magic, religious spiritual martial arts, single gentlemen heroes fighting entire armies, sensual romance, Boob armor, and parables of trickery and personal faults and intelligence.
      Maybe much like the Medieval period in terms of Western fantasy, or historically like the Epic of Gilgamesh or Homer's Iliad and Odyssey.

    • @lmssx1007
      @lmssx1007 5 років тому +4

      Here is where i watched it. kissasian.es/Drama/Secrets-of-Three-Kingdoms-2018/

  • @khm7705
    @khm7705 5 років тому +5

    Such an exquisite documentary regarding the Han dynasty,
    I am astonished that you actually mentioned the three kingdoms period which is my favorite in Chinese history. I was surprised because I just started searching about them in the past 5 days and I wished that you would talk about it since you are one of the few channels that excel in battle documentaries. Now, there is hope.
    Subscribed

  • @Flow86767
    @Flow86767 5 років тому +56

    Thank you for showing a good little documentary on Chinese history!

    • @InspectHistory
      @InspectHistory 5 років тому +11

      Yeah we want more Chinese History!

    • @nobblkpraetorian5623
      @nobblkpraetorian5623 5 років тому +9

      Damn the Three Kingdoms hype is real. I'm looking forward to Hulao Gate, Guandu, Chibi, Fan Castle and Wuzhang Plains.

  • @jabronjunklove760
    @jabronjunklove760 5 років тому +65

    This channel really knows how to make me feel the wrath of Han.

  • @hkmarhk
    @hkmarhk 5 років тому +19

    Wei Qing and Huo Qubing, two of the best generals in Chinese history. I love reading how they marched thousand of miles into Xiongnu territory.

  • @Mrfake-bt5qp
    @Mrfake-bt5qp 5 років тому +21

    Weiqing and Huoqubing are those legendary kinds, they are born to be the one, the leader, the man that knows the art of war.

    • @zinanmo
      @zinanmo 5 років тому +2

      Too bad Huo died young, a real shame.

  • @VladiSSius
    @VladiSSius 5 років тому +550

    The Chinese were smart; in order to defeat Rome they sent the Xiongnu westward.
    Han China 1 - 0 Rome

    • @fiberchristing9174
      @fiberchristing9174 5 років тому +143

      VladiSSius Lol, Chinese respect Romans,Romans also respect Chinese,we are the two civilization that influence the whole world.

    • @GutsLikesItInTheAss
      @GutsLikesItInTheAss 5 років тому +75

      China playing 4D chess

    • @unifieddynasty
      @unifieddynasty 5 років тому +92

      Good joke
      On a more serious note, China and Rome/Byzantines praised each other, in a "grass is greener on the other side of the fence" sort of way. Each was the other's powerful role model on the edge of the known world. They couldn't have much direct contact due to the long distance so they made up stories about how amazing the other civilization was. It's all documented in historical texts.

    • @lifescience2050
      @lifescience2050 5 років тому +8

      LOL

    • @qujingjing66
      @qujingjing66 5 років тому

      fiber christing truth

  • @xethan3373
    @xethan3373 5 років тому +195

    Huo Qubing was only 23 when he commanded the decisive campaign against xiongnu

    • @Bazerald777
      @Bazerald777 5 років тому +20

      And died soon after

    • @bayanqagan5083
      @bayanqagan5083 4 роки тому +7

      @TK斷屌群衆 If you dig the Chinese history, then the rulers will turn out to be either a proto-Türk or a proto-Mongol, for example Mulan comes from the pro-Mongol tribe Toba, and most of the modern territory of China did not belong to the Chinese, many peoples lived there, especially peoples of European appearance, more than 50% of the modern territory of China belonged to other peoples NOT CHINESE

    • @user-ni1fh8fr9h
      @user-ni1fh8fr9h 4 роки тому +28

      Maine Road Keep dreaming my Turk friends

    • @user-ni1fh8fr9h
      @user-ni1fh8fr9h 4 роки тому +17

      Maine Road Turk keyboard history warrior is great keep on going

    • @hagongda123
      @hagongda123 3 роки тому +17

      @@bayanqagan5083Mulan is Xianbei,not mongolian

  • @jasonshen7600
    @jasonshen7600 2 роки тому +17

    Han: Aight we beat up the Xiongnus and they are going your direction!
    Rome: what the fucking what

  • @LionKing-ew9rm
    @LionKing-ew9rm 5 років тому +200

    Xiongnu, pretty much like all other ancient nomadic raiders, were most likely a combination of different cultural and lingustic groups who had gathered to have a share of the loot! We really shouldn't argue about that. I'm pretty sure that Uralic, Tunguskic, Scythian, Mongolian, Turkic and a lot of other no longer existing groups were involved in this.

    • @karachaybalkar
      @karachaybalkar 5 років тому +47

      They were Turkic. Chinese chronicles show it clearly.

    • @user-tw7kq5ti8y
      @user-tw7kq5ti8y 5 років тому +33

      Baba Eren how were the zhou suppose to be turkic? I understand that the zhou were semi- nomadic but that doesn't mean they were turkics. In fact the sino- tibetan ppls were nomadic back then. They migrated from modern day kulun mountain in Xinjiang to yellow river region.

    • @abanereizei204
      @abanereizei204 5 років тому +27

      ​@Claystead "likely influence from the Yuezhi, who were proto-Turkic." Huh? The Yuezhi were mostly likely Indo-European people(Iranic), not proto-Turkic.

    • @user-qn7xq7pi7t
      @user-qn7xq7pi7t 5 років тому +6

      The nomads have a language connection but may not be able to communicate with each other. Usually after the rise of a tribe, other tribes surrender.

    • @estmeta
      @estmeta 5 років тому +10

      Turkic, MOngolians are also unions of different tribes.

  • @user-qn7xq7pi7t
    @user-qn7xq7pi7t 5 років тому +14

    The video author has done a lot of research work, this video is completely loyal to history, and the explanation is also very detailed.👌

  • @zoekarlsealland3139
    @zoekarlsealland3139 5 років тому +16

    The Chinese subtitle alongside with the translation for title and brief introduction have been upload. It's a great honor for me to translate these documetries that talk one of our Chinese national epic back to Chinese !

    • @ERIC-di7nh
      @ERIC-di7nh 3 роки тому

      小哥你鬼扯啥? 這部視頻的中文翻譯是我兩年前幫他們翻譯的,你怎麼說是你做的?

    • @m_cahit7952
      @m_cahit7952 3 роки тому

      Chinese people built the Great Wall out of fear of Turks, but the Great Wall did not work, the Turks conquered China
      Chinese history people are hiding this war, they don't want to be known
      😂😂

    • @yoloi2470
      @yoloi2470 9 місяців тому

      ​@@m_cahit7952xan u send proof?

    • @yoloi2470
      @yoloi2470 9 місяців тому

      ​@@m_cahit7952all i can see is that the turks scattered all over asia😂😂😂

  • @jordinagel1184
    @jordinagel1184 5 років тому +146

    It’s sad to see how quickly the comments section deteriorates into madness as soon as the words “turkic” or “turkish” are involved...

    • @heavenwatcher100
      @heavenwatcher100 5 років тому +79

      Turks just recognized the wrong ancestors. Being nomads don't mean they are all Turks or direct ancestors of Turks. They really should have more patience and wait until Sui/Tang vs Gokturks.

    • @FK-se4hq
      @FK-se4hq 5 років тому +60

      It's just our monthly dose of Turk cringe and ancestor claiming to feel good about things they didn't do

    • @user-tw7kq5ti8y
      @user-tw7kq5ti8y 5 років тому +26

      Mr Seboss *Scythian eastern Iranic definitely not turkic.

    • @sonofhan9043
      @sonofhan9043 5 років тому +34

      @@elenagelmez5064 Lol, did you even watch the video? We Chinese aren't scared of Xiongnu, we absolutely destroyed them and burnt their stronghold to the ground ^_^

    • @elenagelmez5064
      @elenagelmez5064 5 років тому +2

      SonOfHan why did Maodun chanyu don’t get mentioned in China but in west schools? Are they afraid china gonna become Türk or Moğol Kids?

  • @andersschmich8600
    @andersschmich8600 5 років тому +2

    The Han-Xiongnu war was a massive and fascinating but under rated conflict, glad to see t get the coverage it deserves.

  • @althesian9741
    @althesian9741 5 років тому +114

    Emperor Han Wu Di is arguably the best emperor of the han dynasty. Unlike his predecessors before him who were forced to take defensive measures against the xiongnu, emperor Han Wu Di would do the insurmountable task of attacking his enemies. A cruel politician but also at the the same time a great ruler that will go down and remembered for ushering a golden age for the Chinese people.

    • @hwasiaqhan8923
      @hwasiaqhan8923 5 років тому +12

      It was always more costly for the Chinese to attack the Nomads than the other way around, because the nomads are war focused people who live on raiding goods rather than producing their own, they raid a village or town settle there for awhile eat up everything and leaves, the Chinese however need to constantly supply their front line with foods, if the supply line is cut off then the army is basically paralysed and trapped which happened to Han Gaozu Liu Bang mentioned in this video.

    • @althesian9741
      @althesian9741 5 років тому +7

      The Emperor Of China Yes that is true, but in warfare any army must take care of their supply line with upmost care.
      China’s defensive nature would not help them in the long run. The xiongnu will only get more bolder and attack with continued ferocity when they realized they can constantly get away with this hit and run guerrilla tactic.
      Furthermore china is not exactly the most politically stable country. Dynasty change hands all too often.
      Not ever taking the initiative would only weather out china’s defensive overtime. The xiongnu would push further and divide china. Perhaps it won’t happen in a few decades, but can china resist such raidings for a few more centuries?

    • @hwasiaqhan8923
      @hwasiaqhan8923 5 років тому +9

      Big Iron Yah I agree, that’s why China needed to save up for the war against Xiongnu and end it once and for all, but the early chinese states and dynasties did not see that necessary because the risk was too high. sometimes a politically weaker emperor would rather not take his chances because failure could end up with more internal disasters such as a political coup even causing the collapse of a dynasty which happened to the Sui dynasty.

    • @dongf2618
      @dongf2618 5 років тому +6

      The Xiongnu didn't have the power to attack China, according to a book I read. This is because they lacked shock cavalry and army cohesion. They were still organized loosely and fight in terms of clans or families. According to Han dynasty records, they only raid places where there are little defenses and would run at the sight of the Han army. Numerous records at that time attested they can't stand toe to toe with the Han army.

    • @hwasiaqhan8923
      @hwasiaqhan8923 5 років тому +5

      wic wong Xiongnu at its prime had over 2 million population and war able man around 500000, they did penetrate in to the northern Chinese territories many times, in fact some Chinese states during the Zhou dynasty were destroyed by the Nomadic tribes, including the court of western Zhou it self.

  • @tianelvis2681
    @tianelvis2681 5 років тому +79

    As a Chinese, what really impress me is the man Hou Qubing. Became a general when he was only 17, achieved probably the highest military achievement in Chinese history when he was around 22. Only few could nearly match him accomplishment in Chinese history and i believe even in the world history. Also, this man dead when he was only 24 yrs old. The God offered him unlimited talent and power, in exchange God took away his time.

    • @tianelvis2681
      @tianelvis2681 5 років тому +19

      This is man is a God of war in my opinion....

    • @ythfdsj5843
      @ythfdsj5843 5 років тому +25

      现在中国有个词叫冠军,当时霍去病的号就是冠军侯。后来这次词一直沿用下来。

    • @longyu9336
      @longyu9336 3 роки тому

      How did he die?

    • @FilipMoncrief
      @FilipMoncrief 3 роки тому +1

      Have you heard about Alexander the Great?

    • @lyhthegreat
      @lyhthegreat 3 роки тому +3

      @@FilipMoncrief have you heard of ghengis khan?

  • @yycxiaoyao
    @yycxiaoyao 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for sharing the history of my motherland.It is one of my favorite history piece.

  • @TheShagamemnon
    @TheShagamemnon 5 років тому +6

    I like all of your videos but this one was especially great. Love it guys!

  • @aidabagirova4933
    @aidabagirova4933 5 років тому +2

    In general, the history of China is complex, so the choice of K&G as a documentary video can be approved. I personally always liked the attitude of this channel to world history, regardless of region and chronology. Thank you!

  • @patrickweber8750
    @patrickweber8750 5 років тому +36

    Uploaded on my Birthday!

  • @lifescience2050
    @lifescience2050 5 років тому +3

    The battle tactics presented in the video are so well made! Thank you for the wonderful job.

  • @lx6461
    @lx6461 5 років тому +7

    Han “ 汉 ” is from 3000 years ago Chinese ancient book 《诗经》:“ 维天有汉,监亦有光 ” , Han means Galaxy , 银河 . Xiongnu ' s ancestor was a Han Chinese the name 淳维 (Chun Wei),so whatever Mongols or Turks , both of them are descendants of Han Chinese , before Han dynasty ,we call ourself 华夏 (Hua Xia).

  • @RYHo-ni4my
    @RYHo-ni4my 5 років тому +28

    Huo QuBing is a legendary general for sure.

  • @user-uk2sv5le8h
    @user-uk2sv5le8h 5 років тому +43

    In Han's perspective and records , the Han had a huge quality advantage in the war between the Huns , one China commander once said 一汉当五胡 ,means one Han can deal with 5 savages. The China cavalry armed with armor and lances ,crossbows , the advantage of weapon make them can easily kill the unprotected hun cavalry in combat. But the Han were also impressed by the horse arts and archery of Huns. So after hundreds years of this war , the north savages always used as light cavalry in the China's army.

  • @theOni877
    @theOni877 5 років тому +1

    Been waiting on you to make this video on the Han-Xiongnu war, and you did not disappoint. Yet another quality post my man, keep them coming!

  • @GIMIJAH
    @GIMIJAH 5 років тому +16

    Notification on my phone.. is it my crush? Nooo much better= kings and generals posted new video 😂👍🏻

  • @user-hr9jy8ru1g
    @user-hr9jy8ru1g 5 років тому +24

    Sinology research in Europe
    While the Mongol Empire was in the ascendancy, the power of the Catholic Church seemed to be fading, and the power of the Pope was somewhat shaky. At the same time, the Mongols opened the eastern roads for travel, and the Pope decided that there were now so many evident non-Christians that his power in the West was under severe threat. If he could convert these non-Christians he could regain power. As a result, Jesuit missionaries started to head east. Before spreading Christianity, they researched Chinese beliefs. They examined Chinese history and philosophy. There were some missioners who stayed twenty or thirty years in China, and built up healthy relations with Chinese scholars. They also started to translate Chinese books about both history and philosophy into Western languages. The first translations were made in Portuguese. Then this was translated to the other languages; Spanish, Italian and French. So the West started to learn about China from these Jesuit missionaries.
    Sin means China in Latin and Sinology means “sciences of China." Sinology mainly started with these translations in the sixteenth century, and Turk history became part of this study. Later, the number of Sinology studies increased with many travellers from the West heading to China. The book written by de Guinness in the eighteenth century is accepted as one of the important collected studies about Turkish history. De Guinness did not know Chinese but he wrote the history of the Turks, Mongols and Tartars by using Jesuit missionaries' translations. It was printed under the name of "General History of Turks, Tatars and Mongols."
    All the information obtained to this point by the researchers showed that the Huns were of Turkic origin. We learn nearly all our current knowledge on the Huns from the information left to us by their contemporary neighbours.
    For example. It is pretty definite that their language was Turkic. Chinese annals reveals that the Hunnic language was very close to that of the Töles, a Turkic tribe. The Byzantine Empire said that the language of the Huns was the same as the languages of the Bulgars, Avars, Szeklers (the last of whom were descended from the European Huns themselves - Ed.) and other tribes which were flooding into Eastern Europe from Central Asia. The historians of that period accepted that these Turkic-speaking tribes were no different from the Huns because their languages were the same.
    There are many words written in Chinese chronicles which were used by Huns in daily life. These are Turkic words. K Shiratoriy, reading a Hunnic sentence which has survived to the present day, has proven that it is Turkic. Hunnic-runic writings belonging to European Huns in Cafcasia [sic] has been read and has been proven to be of Turkic origin.
    One area for backing up this claim is that of Hunnic names. It is difficult to explain the names belonging to Asian Huns because of fact that they were translated into Chinese in the form of Chinese names. The meanings of the names of European Huns can be comfortably explained in Turkish. One of the most striking features related to European Hunnic names is that they can't be explained by any language but Turkish. Some of the names belonged to the German language due to cultural interaction, but the majority of them were Turkish.
    I will try to explain some of these:
    (a famous hunnic leader) Balamir = Bala (child, kid) + Mir (king)
    (the son of Attila) Dengizik = sea storm
    (a general) Oniki, known to Europeans as Onegesios, = the number 12
    (the son of Attila) Csaba = shepherd
    (a Hunnic leader) Atakam = Ata (grandfather, father), Kam = the person who is responsible for the religious rituals (in shamanism)
    Eskam = Es = couple + Kam = (as above)
    Aybars = Ay = moon (and also the colour white in Turkish) + Bars (or Pars) = leopard, or a wild animal
    The author W Bang has proven the name of Attila's wife was Arikan in Turkish in the result on his researches.
    Some Hunnish Words
    English
    GOD
    POLITICAL POWER
    GIRL
    WOMAN
    HORSETAIL
    MAGIC
    ARMY
    IRANIAN
    GO
    WOLF
    STRONG/THICK
    SWORD
    COUNTRY
    Hunnish
    TENGRI*
    KUT
    KIZ
    KATUN
    TUG
    BÜYÜ
    ORDA
    TAT
    BAR
    BÖRI
    TOK
    KILIÇ
    EL
    Turkish
    TENGRI
    KUT
    KIZ
    KATUN/KADIN/HATUN
    TUG
    BÜYÜ
    ORDA/ORDU
    TAT
    BAR
    BÖRI/KURT
    TOK
    KILIÇ
    EL
    * Tengri also means "God" or "Heaven" in Mongolian.

  • @HistoryTime
    @HistoryTime 5 років тому +193

    Absolutely wonderful. Xiongnu = ultimate badasses, almost before badass-ary even existed.

    • @umaransari9765
      @umaransari9765 5 років тому +8

      Hoàng Nguyên almost half of Vietnamese have Nguyen surname

    • @HVLLOWS1999
      @HVLLOWS1999 5 років тому +4

      Hey it's history time!!!!!!!

    • @alexwu9546
      @alexwu9546 5 років тому +33

      Hoàng Nguyên respect for Vietnam from China, but we won 1000yrs ago in Han dynasty

    • @HVLLOWS1999
      @HVLLOWS1999 5 років тому

      @@alexwu9546
      Wouldn't it be over 1000 yrs ago

    • @hwasiaqhan8923
      @hwasiaqhan8923 5 років тому +34

      Hoàng Nguyên You failed to mention how China invaded it many times but also colonised vietnam for over 1100+ years. Not to mention sometimes in the history Vietnam was the aggressor, for example the Song China-Vietnam war and Ming China-Vietnam war.

  • @hwasiaqhan8923
    @hwasiaqhan8923 5 років тому +151

    It was always more costly for the Chinese to attack the Nomads than the other way around, because the nomads are war focused people who lived on raiding goods rather than producing their own, they raid a village or town settle there for awhile eat up everything and leaves, the Chinese however need to constantly supply their front line with food, if the supply line is distrupted then the whole army would basically become paralysed and trapped. Therefore the Chinese built the Great Wall because it’s cheaper doing so then go to war with nomads in a long term war.

    • @hwasiaqhan8923
      @hwasiaqhan8923 5 років тому +27

      Hh Ii Northern and southern han chinese have the same Y chromosome. Chinese mandarin sounds different like how every language evolved for example Turkish.
      Non chinese nomads entered China and were all assimilated just like how Turkic tribes, mongol and other nomadic tribes assimilates each other. That’s why the Turkic race has such a huge variety of facial features of Asians and Europeans, today Central Asia Uighur look more like euroasians where as Turkish look European. Yet they are both considered Turkic. Same applies with southern and northern Chinese, not to mention the difference between northern and southern Chinese is far minimal compare to that of the diversity within the Turkic race.
      Also Han dynasty was founded by Southern Chinese, the Han ethnicity is similar to that of the Xiongnu confederate(diverse nomadic tribes join group together) han is a united identity of all chinese states of both northern and southern China.

    • @hwasiaqhan8923
      @hwasiaqhan8923 5 років тому +20

      TÜRK Chinese record suggest that Xiongnu came from Xia dynasty Chinese migrants and native nomads. Don’t know about Turks, turks came much later and were a slave tribe of the Rouran.

    • @johnrockwell5834
      @johnrockwell5834 4 роки тому +5

      Likewise the Nomads was able to rely on their herds for milk( Possibly Goats milk but definitely Mares milk and/or Milk from Cattle) and meat sustaining them all over the grass-rich steppe. Therefore they don't need supply lines like the Chinese do.
      The Chinese Army never adopted similar herds and their milk and meat sustenance to reduce their reliance on Chinese Grain and Rice.

    • @Kirin2022
      @Kirin2022 4 роки тому +3

      The few exceptions were sustained campaigns of pacification that included genocidal policies ( under the most draconian emperors ). Apparently that's what is happening again, but with the CCP eliminating the Uiguhrs, the most rebellious Muslim minority.

    • @user-wg1mv5hu5v
      @user-wg1mv5hu5v 4 роки тому

      @@hwasiaqhan8923 Привет и Скажи мне Был Крестовый поход на Монголию🇲🇳⚔🇵🇹✝️

  • @thewolfofswingthat2035
    @thewolfofswingthat2035 5 років тому +411

    whooppps , china indirectly caused the downfall of the western roman empire...

    • @Novusod
      @Novusod 5 років тому +81

      Those events are half a millennia apart so unlikely. The Xiognu probably ended up in Scythia which basically disappeared as a civilization around this time. No written records survive from central Asia as to why either the Scythians, Sarmatians, or the 1000 cities of Bactria suddenly collapsed and disappeared in the first century BC and first century AD.

    • @hyltoniali257
      @hyltoniali257 5 років тому +3

      So as the Avars (RouRan ruru) pursued by the foundation from the Gökturk

    • @ericconnor8251
      @ericconnor8251 5 років тому +29

      @@Novusod No written records survive from the locals as to why that happened, but we know from contemporary Chinese historiography (e.g. Sima Qian's "Shiji") that parts of Central Asia were at first overrun by the proto-Mongolic Xiongnu, and then by the later Indo-European Yuezhi, who would fill the vacuum of power left behind by Greco-Bactria and the Indo-Greeks to form the Kushan Empire. The Scythians also formed their own kingdom in South Asia around 150 BC, with the Indo-Scythians dominating what is now southern Afghanistan, Pakistan, and northwestern India.

    • @ericconnor8251
      @ericconnor8251 5 років тому +19

      @@shenjiangjun2448 Actually, the Northern Xiongnu were expelled from China by Eastern Han dynasty forces in the year 89 AD at the Battle of the Altai Mountains, and then they fled even further west when the proto-Mongolic Xianbei nomads defeated them in 155 AD. I'm not sure where you're getting this "250 AD" figure, it's actually a century before that. Even so, Xiongnu remained even after Western Jin, given the Sixteen Kingdoms period.

    • @shenjiangjun2448
      @shenjiangjun2448 5 років тому +8

      You're right! I have made a huge mistake in dating the events

  • @JasonDoe1000
    @JasonDoe1000 5 років тому +1

    A Three Kingdoms documentary video, nice!
    Oh how long I waited for this possibility...

  • @SonPham-CompetitiveProgramming
    @SonPham-CompetitiveProgramming 5 років тому +3

    Very glad to see more Chinese history series. A few fun fact related to the video:
    - Qin Shi Huang did not build the entire Great Wall of china. There are already sections of the wall built by separate kingdoms in the Spring Autumn and Warring States period, from as early as 7th century BC. Qin Shi Huang was, however, credited with connecting these walls together into one Great Wall.
    - Even with just connecting this wall, the task was so monumental that it caused so many lives and arguably caused the downfall of the Qin dynasty. The wall was also hopelessly ineffective during many later Mongolian incursions and actually serves better for commerce, as it allows very convenient transportation for the Silk Road.
    - Gao Zu power struggle with Xiang Wu of Chu to create the Han Dynasty is an incredibly fascinating history.
    - There is a lot of "Emperor Wu" in Chinese history. That's because Wu means Martial and Wen means Literature. It is common for the first few emperors of a dynasty to have the title Wu or Wen because of the wisdom that one needs both the army and the scholars to have an effective government.

  • @alexioschen1685
    @alexioschen1685 3 роки тому +8

    After Huo Qubing, 'the sacrifice to the heaven on the mountain Langjuxu(封狼居胥)'has been used to symbolize the highest honor of a Chinese general. And the word 'Guanjun(冠军)' in Chinese from his title 'the Marquis of Guanjun (冠军侯)' has been also used to describe champions in sports competitions until today. There is no doubt that Huo Qubing is one of the most legendary generals in Chinese history.

    • @lyhthegreat
      @lyhthegreat 3 роки тому +3

      yue fei and xiang yu were great generals too

  • @arun3202
    @arun3202 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for regular upload of quality videos of different regions and different era.

  • @michaeltheboombringer2848
    @michaeltheboombringer2848 5 років тому +72

    10:25 It's Cao Wei

    • @patrickanderson4167
      @patrickanderson4167 5 років тому +7

      Can’t wait to see how people pronounce Cao Cao in the future video of the Three kingdoms lol He reminds me of cocoa or coconut lol

    • @exiagan9721
      @exiagan9721 5 років тому +1

      @@Fakeslimshady "sao sao"

    • @jagvillani338
      @jagvillani338 5 років тому +5

      Ts'ao Ts'ao (one of the few places where Wade Giles is easier to use).

    • @michaeltheboombringer2848
      @michaeltheboombringer2848 5 років тому +8

      曹操
      Pinyin: Cáo Cāo
      Wade-Giles: Ts'ao2 Ts'ao1
      IPA: [t͡sʰɑʊ̯³⁵ t͡sʰɑʊ̯⁵⁵]
      Tone graph: resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/pronunciation/Four_tones
      Old Chinese: *N-tsˤu tsʰˤaw

    • @user-tv4rq9qh9y
      @user-tv4rq9qh9y 5 років тому

      That's also what I want to say.😂

  • @user-ij7sp6op6q
    @user-ij7sp6op6q 5 років тому +135

    The ancestors of the Huns.Great video guys.

    • @jack-hq4ek
      @jack-hq4ek 5 років тому +19

      @@samuelclemens6841 they have a similar army, similar names, similar state system. also Joseph de Guignes says so :D.

    • @tugrulc.1804
      @tugrulc.1804 5 років тому +7

      Yes ancestors of Huns and Central asia people

    • @user-ij7sp6op6q
      @user-ij7sp6op6q 5 років тому +17

      My friend it's not ironic at all.I am a Greek and i am proud for my cultyre and my history but i am also studying history and i have a particular interest for the civilisations of the Far East such as China,India,Mongolia and Japan.@Hh Ii

    • @sergelengerelmaa2450
      @sergelengerelmaa2450 5 років тому +1

      @@samuelclemens6841 they are plenty of strong evidence.

    • @yb4b34
      @yb4b34 5 років тому

      yağız their physical symbol were not the same. Xiongnu were very tall, chinese official record claimed the Chanyu had a height of over 190cm. However, Huns were short and strong said by Roman historical scholar. How could possible that people’s physical symbol became so different in couple hundred years?

  • @EricM33
    @EricM33 5 років тому +2

    Amazing video! Thank you. Please do more videos on Ancient China. I can't wait for a series on the Three Kingdoms period. 😁

  • @zhuoyuchen9906
    @zhuoyuchen9906 Рік тому +7

    Modu was a legendary leader of the Xiongnu. His father Touman preferred Modu’s brother so he sent Modu to Yuezhi as a hostage. Touman then attacked Yuezhi, hoping they would kill Modu as a result. However Modu escaped back to Xiongnu.
    Modu then trained a group of loyal soldiers. He instructed them that to shoot arrows wherever he shot at. First Modu shot at his horse then his spouse. Whoever didn’t shoot at his horse and spouse were executed by him. Therefore when Modu finally shot at his father Touman, everyone did not hesitate to put an arrow in the old chanyu.

  • @theazndonut1
    @theazndonut1 5 років тому +3

    Should definitely have Total War Three Kingdoms sponsor you guys, amazing quality btw!!!

  • @boaozhang7188
    @boaozhang7188 5 років тому +2

    Thank you for such accurate video about Chinese history!

  • @napoleonbonapartelempereur9502
    @napoleonbonapartelempereur9502 5 років тому +68

    I am Indian .I love Chinese History very much. China's History is as Glorious as the History of our India.

    • @hyltoniali257
      @hyltoniali257 5 років тому +5

      RAJAT MAZUMDER The teaching of Buddha☸️🙏🏼 influences Cina the most

    • @RocketPropelledMexican
      @RocketPropelledMexican 5 років тому +10

      Fun fact, this war allowed the Han dynasty to colonize Xinjiang, which secured the silk road. This gave China a direct and safe route to India and started the process of transmitting Buddhism to China. The loss of Xinjiang to various nomads a few centuries later led the early Buddhists to become isolated and develop their own Chinese variation.

    • @napoleonbonapartelempereur9502
      @napoleonbonapartelempereur9502 5 років тому +4

      @@RocketPropelledMexican nd Hyltonial I
      U both are right nd made good points.

    • @hwasiaqhan8923
      @hwasiaqhan8923 5 років тому +11

      Hyltonial I Not really, the teaching of Confucianism and Taoism was more influential than Buddhism, Chinese dynasties check their legitimacy thru Confucius morals and Worshipped the highest god of China “The heaven” not Buddha. Buddhism remained a secondary national religion for majority of the time.

    • @napoleonbonapartelempereur9502
      @napoleonbonapartelempereur9502 5 років тому +4

      @@hwasiaqhan8923
      Whatever Buddhhism indeed has deep effect on Chinese Civilisation.

  • @catman998
    @catman998 5 років тому +21

    The tang and han dynasties, the two most powerful dynasties in Chinese history, were also the most powerful countries in the world at that time.

    • @kevinzhu6417
      @kevinzhu6417 4 роки тому

      true golden ages of China that influenced asian society through its many achievements and spreading of its beliefs and culture

  • @oliverchu6946
    @oliverchu6946 5 років тому +1

    I think this is a great Channel that what talks base on ancient Chinese history records ;

  • @Aurica34
    @Aurica34 5 років тому +13

    I feel so sad that General Li Guang was completely forgotten.

  • @BothHands1
    @BothHands1 5 років тому +8

    Your Chinese pronunciation is perfect :)
    Excellent video!

  • @Undecim33
    @Undecim33 5 років тому +1

    A very large period of history, it deserves a whole series. The three kingdoms period is fascinating.

  • @mirzaeser9943
    @mirzaeser9943 5 років тому +165

    The man himself Modu gets his part of the history in Turkic legend Oguz Khan. Similarities between Oguz and Modu(or as Turkic people say Mete) are quite some. Also Oguz Khan( or Mete) recognized as the father of Oguzh's. Oguzhs are 9 tribes that legendly created by 9 sons of Mete. If you wanna learn more I suggest you to read legend of Oguz Khan.

    • @tarkan6485
      @tarkan6485 5 років тому +23

      N.Ya. Bichurin was the first to notice that the biography of the epic ancestor of the Turkic people Oguz-Kagan by Abu al-Ghazi and the Turco-Persian manuscripts (Rashid al-Din, Hondemir, Abulgazi) has a striking similarity with the Maodun biography in the Chinese sources (feud between father and son and murder of the latter, the direction and sequence of conquests, etc.). That observation, confirmed by other scholars, associated in the scientific literature the name of Maodun with the epic personality of the Oguz-Kagan.[5] The similarity is even more remarkable because at the time of the writing, no Chinese annals were translated into either oriental or western languages, and Abu al-Ghazi could not have known about Eastern Huns or Maodun.

    • @user-hr9jy8ru1g
      @user-hr9jy8ru1g 5 років тому +17

      Huns and Xiongu=Altaic Family Mongol And Other Turkic Country
      From Merkid (Ötügen)

    • @otgunz3833
      @otgunz3833 5 років тому +1

      Yeah but most probably the name "Oğuz" or "Oghuz" was actualy the name of the tribe that lived on the oxes which provided the Oghuz nation their milk, meat, fur and the horns and tendons that are used for the Turkic and Mongol composit bows.
      You research it my friend when you are a Turk and your name is Oğuz :D

    • @Intranetusa
      @Intranetusa 5 років тому +3

      @@user-hr9jy8ru1g The Altaic language family has been disproved by modern scholars (including Turkic scholars). The similarities between groups are due to cultural borrowings rather than a single giant language family.

    • @user-tw7kq5ti8y
      @user-tw7kq5ti8y 5 років тому +5

      Hh Ii I believe Chanyu was Indeed a original turkic title for their leader, instead Khan or Khagan was a mongolic origin title because according to the Chinese record the word Khan first appared during the Northern- Southern dynasty where the proto- mongolic ppl Xianbei used it, then later adopted by Rouran ppl. Since turks were vassals to Rouran for quite a long time, it's possible that turk also adopted word Khan as their leader's title. In the Chinese record also stated the Xianbei, Rouran, and turks used to pronounce khan as “Kagan” similar to modern Chinese pronounce of “Kehan”.

  • @maverikmiller6746
    @maverikmiller6746 5 років тому +3

    Our history books never told us the part 0:40 - 2:53 . Thank you very much for telling us this.
    Hoping to see Göktürks also.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  5 років тому

      Thanks for watching!
      We'll see!

    • @sillerjaw6840
      @sillerjaw6840 5 років тому +1

      Maverik Miller you can actually read them yourself aswell as long as you got some history books or watch sources:) listening to schools or parents are not the only single way of getting knowledge from it all anyway.
      I as a Turk have history book that has written pages of History about different Turkic peoples from the Beginning of their civilizations and cultures to their modern peoples and it’s on my device not even home XD

  • @OlafderPirat
    @OlafderPirat 5 років тому +1

    Total War fans looking at the 3 kingdoms expectantly. Can't wait to learn more about china, but love all these videos!

  • @heavenwatcher100
    @heavenwatcher100 5 років тому +4

    What a splendid episode! I feel really proud of what my ancestors had achieved after a heavy blow from the siege of Baideng. They eventually struck back after 4 generations of emperors with glorious victories which were justified by harsh natural conditions, fierce rivals, and immense challenges to logistics. Salute to General Wei, General Huo and many others who fought bravely in countless wars against nomad khaganates. You were the ones who made China great and stepped to the world stage. ( Same respect to diplomats and envoys like Zhang Qian, Gan Ying, and Ban Chao who connected us to the SilkRoad and many other great civilizations!)
    Interesting Fact: Both General Wei Qing and Emperor Wu married to the elder sister of the other guy. General Huo Qubing was the nephew of General Wei Qing. General Wei as the uncle of General Huo, really gave his nephew a chance to get elite troops and captured the capital of Xiongnu.

  • @Joycccce185
    @Joycccce185 4 роки тому +3

    Wei Qing and Huo Qubing are among the greatest generals in China. Together with Empress Wei Zifu, Crown Prince Ju (first-son of Empress Wei and Emperor Wu), and Princess Ping Yang (Emperor Wu's sister and later became Wei Qing's wife), they were called the Wei Family. I have to admit that Wei Qing got promoted in the very first beginning was because of his sister, who was a concubine of the Emperor and later became the Empress who had married the Emperor for 49 years and been an Empress for 38 years. Her son was the crown prince but later was killed by his father (by this time, Prince Ju has lost his biggest political support. His Uncle, Wei Qing and his cousin, Huo Qubing, had passed away for many years). However, her great-grandson, Emperor Xuan, later became one of the greatest emperors in China. It is another legend, a baby whose whole family had been killed by his great-grandfather survived. He was first raised in prison for several years, later became an ordinary person, then returned to his royal family, and became emperor when he was 17 years old.
    Wei Qing was a classic example from rags to the richest. Both he and his sisters were the slaves of Princess Ping Yang (later this princess married her previous "slave", what a story!!!) Wei Qing succeeded in a small war and gradually earned more and more power. He eventually became the highest general ruling all the armies in Han for many years. He was also a very low-key and generous person. In fact, you couldn't find any moral failures in him.
    Huo Qubing was a little bit different. When he was born, his auntie had become the favorite concubine and when he was 3 years old, his auntie became the Empress. We could say he was born super-rich! Emperor Wu and Empress Wei pretty much raised him in the palace. Emperor Wu liked him as he was his true son. When he was around 18, he followed his uncle, Wei Qing, to fight with Xiong Nu and win many battles with very innovative strategies. He was soon awarded as Marquess of Champion (yes, that's exactly how the word "Champion" in Chinese was created)! He was the first general to have a huge ceremony to heaven to memorize Han's victories in Xiong Nu's ruling area. Ever since having a ceremony to heaven in Mountain Lang Juxu (which is the Khentii Mountains in Mongolia) became the most romantic and heroic dream of every general in China. He was like a superstar who was so brilliant yet died so young. Born as rich, he was more free, bold, and proud than his uncle was. That's one of the reasons why he could think of things differently from his uncle and have priority when picking up troops. By the way, he had a half-brother, who later became one of the greatest ministers in China!
    The whole Wei Family is legendary and mysterious since their main family members including Wei Qing and Huo Qubing didn't want to have their own party and didn't want to leave behind biography! They might be born as low-key or they worried that their power and reputation were so strong that they might be doubted as unloyal to the Emperor! There was a saying at that time, "Don't be sad if you give birth to a girl! Don't you see Wei Zifu ruling the whole country!"
    Empress Wei, directly and indirectly, had brought many biggest figures to the Han Dynasty and to the whole Chinese history. Wei Qing (her brother) and Huo Qubing (her nephew) were among the greatest generals in China. Huo Guang (Huo Qubing's half-brother) was one of the top ministers in our history. Emperor Xuan (her great-grandson and Crown Prince Ju's grandson) was even greater than his great-grandfather and had totally defeated Xiong Nu!

  • @globalcombattv
    @globalcombattv 5 років тому +2

    I'm so glad you started to do eastern ancient history as that is my least explored part of history after Southern Africa.

  • @leonjiang3911
    @leonjiang3911 5 років тому +20

    His name is not Gaozu, it’s Liu Bang. Gaozu is a title like “ Alferd the great” “ Alexander the great”

    • @TWHTALMT
      @TWHTALMT 5 років тому +6

      Gaozu 高租 was his temple name (庙号), he was enshrined after his death. What you mentioned was the Posthumous name (谥号), using a single word to describe an emperor deeds after his death. Example: Emperor Wu (武 martial) of Han for his military achievement.

  • @muratlokmanoglu
    @muratlokmanoglu 5 років тому +3

    Another amazing video. Thank you very much. 𐰋𐰃𐰼 𐱃𐰣𐰼𐰢 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰜𐰏 𐰚𐰇𐰔𐰓 𐰘𐰏𐰓

  • @thedirty530
    @thedirty530 5 років тому

    I am such a big fan of History.....And you have done a service that would make the ancients proud!

  • @heavenwatcher100
    @heavenwatcher100 5 років тому +11

    For those of you interested in the siege of Baideng and the anecdote related to Modu Chanyu. Here's the information I compiled and translated.
    Believed it or not, Xiongnu had 400k troops at the peak of Modu Chanyu's reign, 25% more than the size of Han's army during the siege of Baideng. I think the number was not exaggerated in this case since Xiongnu under Modu Chanyu was a very powerful state. Also, during some decisive battles, nomads could raise all their males at appropriate ages to become cavaliers. (Riding horses are vital skills to them thus despite my personal unfavorable attitude toward nomads, I admit they are natural warriors or ethnic groups raised on horsebacks. )
    I read several accounts of this siege and form a quite convincing scenario. Initially, Gaozu Emperor tried to suppress a rebel initiated by the local king of Han(韩王信), whose territory bordered Xiongnu in northern China. The king (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xin,_King_of_Han, not to mess up with the person with the same name.) begged Xiongnu for help. Then Modu Chanyu decided to intervene in this affair. Modu sent 2 vanguards, each with 10k+ troops to assist Xin, the King of rebellious Han kingdom(韩国). But Han dynasty troops(汉朝)managed to crush the joint force of Xiongnu vanguards and Han kingdom(韩国). Modu Chanyu used this minor defeat as a chance to deceive his enemy. Gaozu Emperor's main force (320k) was then lured by the remaining forces of Modu's vanguards and fell into the trap on Baideng plateau, where he was surrounded by 400k of Modu Chanyu's main force. Han dynasty's troops were then besieged for 7 days without any supply.
    Later, one of Gaozu's major advisors, Chen Ping(陈平)pursuaded and bribed the wife of Modu Chanyu and told her if her husband sieged few more days, Han dynasty would accept harsher terms to surrender, which meant Han emperor pledge to give more beauties to Modu Chanyu and threatened her position as the noblest queen consort of Xiongnu. Thus, Modu's wife told her husband they had already achieved a victory and it's time to withdraw troops before more Han reinforcement came. In another account/version, Han dynasty's reinforcement, led by the grand martial Zhou Bo(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhou_Bo) also came from the south and started to relieve the siege.
    Nevertheless, both Gaozu Emperor of Han and Modu Chanyu felt they are tough rivals to each other yet Gaozu was indeed trapped in Baideng without supply for seven days and needed a truce. In the end, Gaozu decided to marry a princess (member of the house of Liu, not specified but more likely to be the nominal daughter of the Gaozu Emperor) to Modu and gave gifts to him, known as Heqin policy. This also meant Han halt offensive wars with Xiongnu until the period of Emperor of Wu(Liu Che) mentioned in the video.
    Still, Modu Chanyu was an ambitious man, and either due to a difference in rituals or pure arrogance, Modu Chanyu sent an insulting letter to the queen regent, widow of Emperor Gaozu when Liu Bang(Gaozu Emperor) passed away. Modu's queen consort, who was bribed by Chen Ping, was also dead at that time. Modu then wrote a letter to his nominal mother-in-law, queen regent Lv Zhi (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_L%C3%BC): Now that you are a widow while I am a wifeless man. Both of us were unhappy. Why wouldn't us exchange what we have for what we don't have? (陛下独立,孤偾独居。两主不乐,无以自虞,愿以所有,易其所无。) The last sentence was a metaphor of sexual relations between males and females (Modu really suggested queen Lv filled her vacuum underneath with his big stick.). It was one of the most humiliating letters in Chinese history though.
    Considering the fact that Modu indeed slain his father Touman Chanyu, possibly inherited several wives/concubines of his dad, and even want to bang his nominal mother-in-law Lv Zhi. I can only say, Modu Chanyu was both a dad-slayer and m*therf**ker or a proficient but morally bankrupt CK2 player.

    • @burakcelik1
      @burakcelik1 Рік тому

      The population of the nomadic Turkic peoples living in the steppe was not even 10/3 of the population of China. It is not possible for the Turks to establish an army of 400,000 men at that time. Shanyu Mao Tun's guerrilla warfare is the biggest proof of this. Turkish troops, moving fast because their numbers were few, wore out the Chinese army. Turkish troops, who were very good at archery, destroyed the Chinese army. Mao Tun's army is estimated at between 20,000 and 40,000.
      Mao Tun's father, Teoman, sent Mao Tun as a prisoner to the Yue-chi tribe at the insistence of his Chinese wife. When Shanyu, who escaped from here, returned, his father was impressed and gave him a 10,000-strong archer unit. Mao Tun trained this army, making it perhaps the most loyal army in world history. and during a hunt, he took the throne by shooting arrows at his father at the same time with his 10,000 soldiers, killing his father. killed all his family members and stepmother. and then he laid the foundations of Turkish history. swept across Asia. Emperor of the Turkish peoples and all humanity, the great Chanyu Mao-Tun Turkic nation misses you.

    • @josephleebob3828
      @josephleebob3828 Рік тому

      china was weak xddd

    • @jackgoodnight2
      @jackgoodnight2 Рік тому +2

      ​@@josephleebob3828better than someone lose the war and run away.😆

    • @josephleebob3828
      @josephleebob3828 Рік тому

      @@jackgoodnight2 china lost war and ran

    • @jackgoodnight2
      @jackgoodnight2 Рік тому +1

      @@josephleebob3828 Fun fact: Pisslam mohammed married a 9 years old little girl. That means mohammed = pedophile.😆

  • @datgaiyong8846
    @datgaiyong8846 5 років тому +9

    The Xiongnu may related to Huns Xiong匈nu奴, this word consists of two Chinese characters, 奴Nu means slaves, and Xiong匈, This Chinese character in ancient Chinese accent is same as Hun(Latin)! But I don't mean that Xiongnu are the Huns, they were different, but the Xiongnu might have been part of them

  • @johnnywalker1333
    @johnnywalker1333 5 років тому +1

    Very nice episode! Please give us more of the glorious history of china and eastern asian kingdoms !

  • @yunli3576
    @yunli3576 5 років тому +16

    China has a history of 4000~5000 years .Four Great Inventions of Ancient China(The compass,Gunpowder,paper-making and printing)make a great contribution to all mankind,China also has many wonders of the world history (such like the Great Wall;
    Terra-Cotta Warriors; Forbidden City and so on). Qin;Han ;Tang;Ming,those Dynasties were World‘s Most powerful empires in Ancient times. Only Idiots like undervalue Chinese History. In Ancient times ,every nation in East Asia and Southeast Asia always called China"Central Empire"and “Heavenly Dynasty”.

    • @yunli3576
      @yunli3576 5 років тому +2

      ​@Capitan Barbosa Another stupid China hater with no education and Brain.Playing on your own, Bye!

    • @charmingsmile9301
      @charmingsmile9301 5 років тому +5

      @Capitan Barbosa Does Japan dare to invade China? At the weakest time in China, Japan failed to win the war of aggression against China. Now you lend some courage to the Japanese to see if the Japanese dare to invade China? Some countries or ethnic groups that have invaded China in history have disappeared and have declined a bit.

    • @ymhktravel
      @ymhktravel 5 років тому +1

      @@charmingsmile9301 Or has assimilated into the Sino culture, like the Manchus.

    • @ymhktravel
      @ymhktravel 5 років тому +2

      @@GeorgE-yo5yc I thought the first mass printing, also known as woodblock printing, was done in ancient China.

    • @nuckingfuts3204
      @nuckingfuts3204 5 років тому

      @@ymhktravel Actually mass printing was observed in ancient time with Cuneiform tablets circulating in Egypt and Babylon.

  • @reddhong6665
    @reddhong6665 5 років тому +6

    Huo Qubing was definitely the god of war for the ancient Chinese army. He was a genius and died in 23 years old because of drinking of poisoned river water by Xiongnu. The Emporer Wu of Han was so sad and titled him Marquis of Champion.

    • @reddhong6665
      @reddhong6665 5 років тому +3

      Huo Qubing said that "the Xiongnu are not yet eliminated, why should I start a family?" It is a very famous phrase in Chinese history. maybe kind of like in the west, Carthago delenda est" (English: "Carthage must be destroyed"), which was said by Cato the Elde

    • @Ethrinus
      @Ethrinus 2 місяці тому

      There was a saying. Heroes dies young while, scourge lives for eternity.

  • @naufalfarris8599
    @naufalfarris8599 5 років тому +2

    It is always an amazing documentary!

  • @korhanyuksel8219
    @korhanyuksel8219 5 років тому +5

    The hatred of the Turkish and Turkic peoples among some Europeans blinds their eyes. You cannot change the history. The connection between Turks and Xiongnu is based on linguistic and cultural truths. And the creators of these ideas are also the European historians.

    • @pozk-tf6ey
      @pozk-tf6ey 5 років тому +3

      Stop pretending please, your ancestors were Indo-European Anatolian people related to the Greeks and Armenians, true nomadic Turkic's were only in high rank of the state, that's the reason why Turkish doesn't look Turkic but have Turkic language. Instead of being proud of questionable nomadic Turkic ancestors, you should learn and research information about "Anatolian" people, that were your true ancestors.

  • @RocketPropelledMexican
    @RocketPropelledMexican 5 років тому +18

    Han Wudi is one of, if not the greatest Chinese emperors, it's a shame he isn't as well known in the west. Breaking free from being a Xiongnu tributary allowed China to focus its resources for expansion and consolidation in the west and south for the next few centuries. Were it not for the Xiongnu wars, China would be a lot smaller of a nation today, if it even survived.

    • @UltraValor
      @UltraValor 5 років тому +3

      Emperor Wu of Han , Emperor Taizong of Tang, and Yongle Emperor, were 3 of the greatest emperors in China history.

    • @AG-GA
      @AG-GA 2 роки тому +1

      @@UltraValor Yes. but they all after The First Emperor Qin shi huang. The SUPER ISO STANDARD FOUNDER

  • @pegeman1510
    @pegeman1510 5 років тому +2

    These videos are making everything so clear! So, that’s where Huns come from. Perfect!

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  5 років тому +1

      Really happy to hear that :-) But, a quick note: that is just one of the theories.

  • @hannibalbarca2928
    @hannibalbarca2928 5 років тому +209

    The Xiognu, the ancestor of Turkic and Mongols, was one of the most powerful nomadic fighters in the world.The Chinese were forced to do the Great Wall of China.but it was among the most powerful states of their time in both states.

    • @heavenwatcher100
      @heavenwatcher100 5 років тому +67

      Xiongnu is Turk's great great great great granduncle but not a direct ancestor. (Not all nomads are Turkic since cultural identities are different. You just happened to share similar birthplaces and haplogroups. ) Xiongnu is Hun's great great great grandfather though (Huns are arguably ancestors of Hungarian or even Bulgarian). This is what I learned back in China. Turkey's direct ancestors are Gokturk Khaganate/Federation, followed by groups like Seljuks, Rum, and the Ottomans though.
      I agree with the other part you mentioned. Xiongnu, especially under Modu Chanyu, was a very powerful nomadic khaganate. Han became more powerful after 4 generations of emperors and stepped up to become a great power among the world.

    • @hannibalbarca2928
      @hannibalbarca2928 5 років тому +63

      @@heavenwatcher100
      Most of the nomads are Turks.
      Khazak,Oghuz,Uzbek,Tatar,pecheneg,kıpchak,Turkmen,kırghız etc..so Xiognus are generally Turks.and also in Xiognu ... there were Mongols, Magyars, Tungus and Chinese.but most historians recognize it as Turkic-Mongol.So you didn't think China would give objective training to its people, would you?No state describes the history of the nations it does not like.
      The earliest documented Turkic peoples appear as nomadic tribes on the plains of the Far East north of the Great Wall of China, which was constructed as a fortified border essentially between Han dynasty (206 BCE-220 CE) China (though started earlier) and the Xiongnu.
      Source Original WİKİPEDİA
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_migration
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      origins of Xiognu
      www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Xiongnu

    • @heavenwatcher100
      @heavenwatcher100 5 років тому +49

      @@hannibalbarca2928 But all the groups you mentioned are at least 500 years after the timeline of this episode. Yes, Khazak,Oghuz,Uzbek,Tatar,pecheneg,kıpchak,Turkmen,kırghız belong to the Turk family whom all descended from the Gokturk Khaganate. The Gokturk Khaganate had a humble origin of being Rouran's blacksmith slaves. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_Khaganate Your direct ancestors were humiliated by Rouran after paying sweat and blood to the liege but received disdain, thus they decided to form Turks' own empire and overthrown Rouran. Being nomads didn't mean all of them are your direct ancestors, you could call them great uncles or cousins but not your great grandfathers. Some nomadic members like Rouran were even among the worst group who treated your direct ancestors. At least you should be grateful to us Chinese for recording this event and know how your ancestors rose from rags to riches instead of thinking we fabricated history. If we really love fabricating, why should we recognize the achievement of Modu Chanyu or even record the existence of Gokturk Khaganate and acknowledge defeats like the battle of Talas?

    • @hannibalbarca2928
      @hannibalbarca2928 5 років тому +30

      @@heavenwatcher100
      You don't understand what I said.Xiongnu is the grandfather of the Turks and the Mongols.I gave you a source from one of the most reliable sources, right?I can even give you one more reliable source.
      www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/07_03/ancient.shtml?fbclid=IwAR1MUAWwoxgPYYgO_ODbuZYbuQQnbmNvKiI72E38_6rHiYjTe3kc-Ht2FHY
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      About the origin of the Huns..
      www.quora.com/Are-the-Huns-Turks-or-Mongolian?fbclid=IwAR0OZADJc3nd1MfUHK7V_YdG20mQQUUD9ktoaIvztMyybos7cmQcI7ig28c
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      The earliest documented Turkic peoples appear as nomadic tribes on the plains of the Far East north of the Great Wall of China, which was constructed as a fortified border essentially between Han dynasty (206 BCE-220 CE) China (though started earlier) and the Xiongnu.
      Source Original WİKİPEDİA
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_migration
      You understand now, don't you, buddy?

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 5 років тому +19

      @@heavenwatcher100 You can't read your own sources?
      ''Whatever the case, that the Turks were "slaves" need not be taken literally, but probably represented a form of vassalage, or *even* *unequal* *alliance* .''
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_Khaganate
      Turkic people weren't just few 'blacksmith slaves' otherwise how we could establish a huge empire just after overthrowing Rourans?? Nobody could believe that, neither your source is saying that!! It says Turkic people were vassals or unequal part of Rouran and it is most probably true at least for some Turkic tribes which lived in that region due it was tradition in nomads that the defeated tribe was becoming a part of winner tribe in a confederation! The great Hun empire-Xiongnu was exactly same, a confederation of central asian nomads therefore without any question Turkic tribes were part of it. It was also exactly same when Cenghis khan established Mongol empire there were many Turkic soldiers in his armies!! Here you can find many evidence in this link that Turkic tribes were part of even European hun empire such as:
      ''All other information on Hunnic is contained in personal names and tribal ethnonyms. On the basis of these names, scholars have proposed that Hunnic may have been a Turkic language''
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huns
      Another example is when Mete became khan he reorganized the military with decimal system in 209 BC that today we still use and all Turkic, Mongolic tribes including the ones who invaded Europe were using same decimal system which proves the connection and thanks to that their armies were much better organized compared to their enemies therefore they all became very successful and invaded many lands from Europe to China!! Chinese people knew how to write for very long time but never really learned how to fight and kept randomly sending messes of thousands who got easily slaughtered! China got invaded countless times by Turkic, Mongolic and Japanese people or even Koreans defeated your armies many times...

  • @XuerLi
    @XuerLi 5 років тому +28

    Do not forget the "flying general" Li Guang, he was the true pride of early Han dynasty.

    • @user-tv4rq9qh9y
      @user-tv4rq9qh9y 5 років тому +7

      但使龙城飞将在,不教胡马度阴山。

    • @pozk-tf6ey
      @pozk-tf6ey 5 років тому

      Li Guang forced to the Xiongnus isn't he?

    • @zsarimaxim692
      @zsarimaxim692 5 років тому +4

      @@pozk-tf6ey No, that would be Li Guang Li. Li Guang is actually the commander of the east wing that failed to arrive on time for the battle, and he committed suicide afterwards.

    • @mydad4332
      @mydad4332 5 років тому

      flying General is not correct, should be Air General like Air Jordan.

    • @2200zy
      @2200zy 5 років тому +4

      .太史公偏心,才给了一个毫无大战战绩的人这么大篇幅。

  • @sirfrancisdrake3766
    @sirfrancisdrake3766 5 років тому

    Definitely you’re best History Channel

  • @rickrolled638
    @rickrolled638 3 роки тому +11

    土耳其人最鍾意認親認戚, 祖先被人打到要走難到小亞細亞, 血統溝到亂晒, 仲好意思食匈奴豆腐

    • @zealop4728
      @zealop4728 3 роки тому +4

      土耳其人的爱好就是到处认祖宗,前几年土耳其有过一次大规模DNA测试,结果显示他们在基因上和他们自己所谓的祖宗(突厥),基本没有任何关系,哈哈哈哈哈。

    • @turanbirligi8135
      @turanbirligi8135 2 роки тому +1

      @@zealop4728 土耳其的真實土耳其語率是20%,也許是40%,土耳其講土耳其語的比率在八分之一是98%,你因為害怕匈奴而建造了中國的長城,你在這裡空了。

    • @jackgoodnight2
      @jackgoodnight2 Рік тому

      ​@@turanbirligi8135Poor translate🤣 this translate make a lot of funnier hahah

    • @turanbirligi8135
      @turanbirligi8135 Рік тому

      @@jackgoodnight2 türkçe konuş sam sanki çok anlı can ya mal 😂

    • @jesse89625
      @jesse89625 6 місяців тому +1

      土鸡的传统

  • @frankincensemerchant1284
    @frankincensemerchant1284 5 років тому +3

    Great documentary and thank you for finally doing an episode on the Han dynasty. Hope to see more.

  • @groovynerd
    @groovynerd 5 років тому +2

    these videos would be so interesting to show for classes. cheers !

    • @user-gt8bl9wx5d
      @user-gt8bl9wx5d 5 років тому

      Klayden Ng I actually used this video for my presentation 😂

  • @yourlocalt72
    @yourlocalt72 5 років тому +6

    thanks for this when people think about turk or mongol history they think about genghis khan and ottomans but not xiongnu era

    • @volkanozturkmen6245
      @volkanozturkmen6245 3 місяці тому

      Xiongnu empire
      Hunnic empire
      White hun empire
      Avar Khaganate
      Gokturk Khaganate
      Turkic

  • @sumlungsumlung3926
    @sumlungsumlung3926 5 років тому +16

    could u please me ake a video about Qi Jiguang fighting off japanese pirates in Ming dynasty or the battle that directly led to the death of Mongol emperor Mongo during the southern song dynasty ? those teachers don't mention these important events in school,which really pisses me off

  • @ancient-rhinowang6641
    @ancient-rhinowang6641 5 років тому

    Great video! I am so glad you took the advice to address more on East Asia. Can't wait for Three Kingdoms 😄👍

  • @newsionl6092
    @newsionl6092 5 років тому +25

    China conquered all the land that could be see and could be used for farming.
    North, frozen soil.
    South, rainforest.
    East, Pacific.
    West, Himalayas.

    • @senseypires8817
      @senseypires8817 4 роки тому

      north frozen soil WTF

    • @senseypires8817
      @senseypires8817 4 роки тому

      @DiscordChaos i am talking about central asia, cihina was moved to the in to of central asia but turks allied with islamic state against them, after battle of Battle of Talas they lost their army after that china never moved to the SİLK ROAD turkic tribes allways stand at their borders, even they built against them a great wall.

    • @Ethrinus
      @Ethrinus 2 місяці тому

      ​@@senseypires8817great wall was builed 1k before the battle of talas.

  • @hilee7390
    @hilee7390 5 років тому +7

    The great generals Huo Qubing(霍去病) had crush Xiongnu armies as 4.000 troops during Han-Xiongnu War. He didn't get supplied food from Han governments, and he had resolved a food problem by pillage and slaughter in enemies area. More amazing facts are Han dynasty have farmed A few Thousand military horse and training Cavalry as huge scale, for this war.

    • @TWHTALMT
      @TWHTALMT 5 років тому

      This is called 'living off the land' in modern terms.

  • @frankwu4747
    @frankwu4747 5 років тому +1

    Amazing! I hope you cover the Three Kingdoms period

  • @uAozzie
    @uAozzie 5 років тому +244

    Xiongnu are ancestors of Huns, Turks, Mongols

    • @uAozzie
      @uAozzie 5 років тому +126

      @@DimitarFCBM Orkhon inscriptions read this on wikipedia and you will understand why Xiongnu were Turkic.

    • @LOLquendoTV
      @LOLquendoTV 5 років тому +11

      I do wonder why central asia gave rise to such powerful groups

    • @Novusod
      @Novusod 5 років тому +51

      @@LOLquendoTV The land couldn't support proper agriculture so nomadic people never settled down. They became raiders and focused on warfare.

    • @nomooon
      @nomooon 5 років тому +3

      @@LOLquendoTV poor lands produce happy fighters, since there isn't much happiness doing anything else...

    • @LOLquendoTV
      @LOLquendoTV 5 років тому +1

      @@Novusod An interesting thought, yeah, a lot of nomadic armies probably came about from those conditions, harsh weather breeds harsh people, specially when they spend so much time on horseback

  • @Medskywalker
    @Medskywalker 4 роки тому +3

    Many people thinks Turks are only from Ottomans, thank you for showing Xiongnu or Hun Turks

  • @karachaybalkar
    @karachaybalkar 5 років тому

    Wow, man, i just wrote under last video that you must do the Xiongnu - Chinese battles' episodes, and now i see that you upload first one! You're a magician!
    P.S. Love your channel. Thank you for this great work, bro :)

  • @4pplypr3ssure
    @4pplypr3ssure 5 років тому +10

    I am still here waiting for that sweet sweet documentary about the China 's unification war (spring autumn war)

  • @siyuanzuo3750
    @siyuanzuo3750 3 роки тому +3

    The ascension of Modu has a famous backstory to it: The Whistling Arrow Patricide. Chieftan Tuman, Modu's father, wanted to replace Modu with another son from his favourite concubine as heir, so Modu invented a whistling Arrow and secretly trained a squad of horseback archers with the discipline of shooting a volley at whatever target Modu shoots the whistling arrow at, those who hesitated were punishable by death. The target practice included wild games, then Modu's favourite steed and eventually his favourite women.
    Tuman became Modu's last practice target when he was invited to a hunt by his son and heir.

  • @Dragons_Armory
    @Dragons_Armory 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for covering this.
    Also good job with the pronunciations mate

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  5 років тому +1

      Thank you! I don't think we were perfect, but we did our best :-)

  • @gusgar36
    @gusgar36 2 роки тому +7

    How is it that china could annihilate an entire nation of Horse archers but The Europeans couldnt even handle 1 Tribe Lmao...

    • @he-yi-jie-you-wei-you-bao-fu
      @he-yi-jie-you-wei-you-bao-fu 2 роки тому +1

      At that time, China used crossbows and infantry on a large scale

    • @mapoleo
      @mapoleo 3 місяці тому

      Europe mostly focuses on heavy infantries and skirmishers at the time, while China had repeating crossbows and cavalry tactics