Game-Changer: First Race with Loadcell Pedals in iRacing

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  • Опубліковано 30 лис 2024

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  • @robertparfoot-gray8901
    @robertparfoot-gray8901 3 місяці тому +5

    Glad the pedals work not a bad race well done mate

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +2

      Pedals are awesome only problem now is I can’t hide behind my equipment lol so all and any mistakes are me and me alone 😂😂😂. Was a good race I enjoyed it :-).

  • @kgsimracing
    @kgsimracing 3 місяці тому +1

    I just got around to watching this video, since watching your most recent video last night. The shout out surprised me again lol but I appreciate it. I’m glad u went with the pedals and I know u won’t be disappointed. As u get used to them and as you’re able to more easily perform techniques like trail braking and more accurate throttle control, your lap times and tire management will improve significantly. Even the difference between this race and your most recent was a big jump in the right direction. Through a couple close calls and a ghost 4x, u still pulled off another solid finish… great race!!!

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      Cheers buddy. Well you and some others are giving me sound advice so the least I can do is do some shout outs. I am planning to do a lot of practice over the coming days I’ll still post videos as well but need to put your advice to work in practice first. Thank you again buddy I really appreciate it 👍🏻

    • @kgsimracing
      @kgsimracing 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry things will hopefully be slowing down by next weekend, there finally some light at the end of the tunnel. So I’m looking forward to having more free time and hopefully we can get some racing in

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      That’s good news buddy. Absolutely buddy looking forward to some new videos from you too 👍🏻

    • @kgsimracing
      @kgsimracing 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry ya, I can’t wait for that too. I I bought Chicago street course in the hopes to run it this week in the Indy cars. That said, I’m running out of time. I’m hoping to squeeze it in if I get back home in time. Until then I’ve been living vicariously through u guys and all the iRacing UA-cam vids lol

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      @kgsimracing nice well fingers crossed for you buddy. Hopefully you’ll get to squeeze it in and get some videos done to 👍🏻. When are you due back ?

  • @vikingwar-beargaming8843
    @vikingwar-beargaming8843 3 місяці тому +1

    Firstly, I just wanted to say that start launch was really good!
    And yep, I remember coming from g29 potentiometers, to load cells, and the first thing I noticed is that I could trailbrake way more effectively!
    And generally just have more precise inputs.
    But yeah as I've seen a few people here mention, try to learn how to turn the car less with the wheel, and more with your pedal inputs. Track positioning for setting up corner entries, weight transfer to open up rotation without having to turn your wheel as much, and good braking practice will help you get closer to being on the limit with confidence!
    But you're getting round without falling off the track every 2 laps!
    The incident at 8:00 ish minutes was unfortunate...
    Looking at your inputs, it looks like when the guy in front broke, you lifted 100% off the accelerator, and had no brake input for a second, so you were in a coast phase...then you turned and broke, inducing oversteer, then changed down a gear, which just threw you into the spin.
    Happened to the best of us aha.
    Keep going though man, you seem to have an alright base to work from!
    😊 🤘🫶

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      Hi buddy thank you so much for the advice I really appreciate it 👍🏻. Absolutely I’m learning a whole new skill I’ve gone from not trail braking to load cells and trying to trail brake. Thank you for your kind words mate hearing that you think I have a good base to start with is really good encouragement 😁. And also thank you so much for the subscribe I really appreciate it also 👍🏻

  • @billsimpson1085
    @billsimpson1085 3 місяці тому +2

    Just getting into the hobby and looking to upgrade my basic setup. Good info. Thanks for the video!

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely no problem at all. However I can’t take all the credit as it was my fantastic subscribers and our community that have given me the advice and are still helping me now. If you fancy being apart of it please consider subscribing and we can go through the rookies together with help from this fantastic community we have established 👍🏻

    • @billsimpson1085
      @billsimpson1085 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry already subscribed.
      I had begun racing in Assetto Corsa on the Xbox a few years back. But then we had a leak in our roof and guess where the water ended up? Yup. Right on the console. Just picked up a Logitech wheel and pedals second hand. Might start racing again this weekend on RaceRoom.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      Amazing thank you for the support buddy. Oh man that sucks, so are you on PC now ?. Yeah man get back in to it buddy. I have race room on pc but I haven’t really played it yet, I find that each simulator has slightly different characteristics and handles different so I’m worried that of if I start playing another sim I may end up losing everything I’ve improved on IRacing.

    • @billsimpson1085
      @billsimpson1085 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry yes I’m on windows pc. I’ve got about a 3 year gap from the last time I played so I don’t think it will be an issue with remembering the feel.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      Definitely not the muscle memory should still be there. And it will all come flooding back once your behind that wheel 😁

  • @itsblinblin
    @itsblinblin 3 місяці тому +1

    That was fun Harry! Glad the pedal works for you

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      They are fantastic I love them and can’t wait to get better with them and with all the sound advise everyone’s giving me I’ll keep improving and quickly too. Thank you for the comment and support 👍🏻

  • @buzzin-hornet
    @buzzin-hornet 3 місяці тому +1

    I came to see if anybody had commented on the understeer and putting too much steering lock on mid corner lol. Its hard to see things when you're driving, that's why I watch all my stuff back. I could see straight away that you were turning a tiny bit too much and then starting to understeer - and then BECAUSE of the understeer you put more lock on thinking that's what'd fix it. But it's actually the opposite! Practice the same car/track and carry the same speed into the corners and when the car starts to understeer - unwind the steering lock a little to see if it grips up. Let it understeer on purpose so that you can learn what's causing it and how to fix it. These cars have to be driven smoothly without too much scrubbing of the tyres so that you can keep the minimum speed up. Since they are low powered, if you scrub the tyres like this mid corner and carry that scrubbing all the way through it just kills your exit speeds. 7:00 is a perfect example of losing exit speeds by scrubbing the tyres. Watch through to the end of this lap. The final 2 corners show how much it's killing your exit speed. Also to show how little turning the car actually needs watch your spin at the 1st corner next lap 7:50 This shows how little turning of the wheel the car actually needs. You turned a TINY amount and the front tyres gripped up so much that the rear tyres couldn't match them lolol! That's a perfect example that yes you maybe carried a bit too much speed into this spin, but it shows that the car can go faster when it's not understeering! Ps...Apologies for the book I've just written here lol. Happy racing my friend, peace!✌

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      Hi buddy. Thank you so much for the advice. And don’t apologise for the book I take every bit of advice I can get and try and translate it on to the track with practice. I am trying to train my brain to unwind the wheel instead of adding more lock when understeering but that little bit of your brain goes oh we aren’t turning I know I’ll add more lock that will help lol I will keep practicing and hopefully train my brain out of it lol. Thank you so much for comment and subscribe buddy I really appreciate it 👍🏻

    • @buzzin-hornet
      @buzzin-hornet 3 місяці тому

      @@helloharry I ain’t no alien, but I have decent pace. Or DID have lol! Haven’t raced in about a year and it takes a few good hours to get it back. But I listen to anyone that’s willing to help. It can’t hurt to experiment. When I started sim racing in 2012, I looked up all the top sim racers names on UA-cam and anyone that had a UA-cam channel I’d just find a random vid of theirs and ask basic questions. I’d ask each just one or two so that I wasn’t hassling any one person too much haha! Basic car setup tips, braking techniques.. etc… But if u watch what the top guys do it can speed up the learning process…. Literally! lol! All the best! 😉✌🏼🏁

    • @buzzin-hornet
      @buzzin-hornet 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry ua-cam.com/video/vDZ4_VsR5vE/v-deo.htmlsi=CNZR1iqPio4kQa_y This is from years ago and it’s a completely different car, but it kinda exaggerates the steering lock to show what I was meaning. I won a couple Ginetta GT5 champs which needs a very similar driving style to the Mazda, but I have the wheel turned off on those vids. If you see that I unwind the steering as early as possible to avoid the scrubbing. By mid apex I’m unwinding so the tyres are rolling smooth for the exit. Anyway, I’ll leave you be! 🤦🏻‍♂️😂 Catch you dude! And u gained a sub! 😜👊🏼

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      Hey buddy, thank you so much for the sub. And sorry I haven’t replied but I’ve been unwell for a while hence the lack of content as well. I will defo check out the video when I can. And I appreciate all help and advice cause you never know what golden nugget of info will save you a couple of tenths. Peach out bro see you in the next video soon 👍🏻

    • @buzzin-hornet
      @buzzin-hornet 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry The vid’s not important my friend, hope you feel better soon! I haven’t raced for a while due to ongoing health shit. Just that “drive” (appreciate my pun… 😏😂 jokes… ) to get up and to get on and race competitively in about a year. I’ve only just recently started pushing myself to take a car for a spin. I used to be consistently setting pole laps and competing at the front for a good 5 years with my team KCSR. The group of guys are all rapid drivers and then since switching to PC from console - everyone was putting in a lot of practice, where I was ALWAYS a rock up and race! - default setup and off we go! And that used to wind them up. “BUZZ wtf have u done to that car??!” “Erm… nothin…” 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️ lol but now I’d need to put the hours to compete with these guys now and it took the fun out of racing for me… it had become a chore and I wasn’t enjoying it anymore,so I’ve taken a hiatus. I’m now just run TT laps on my own, or cruising a car like it’s a Sunday drive lol! I thought, what’s the point in playing a GAME if I’m not finding it fun? Like really?? So I’m viewing it for what it is… a GAME. ! Yes it’s a sim or whatever, woopty-doo! lol! Just always have fun!! Hope you’re feeling well soon dude! All the best! Buzzzzzzzz.! 🐝🏁👊🏼

  • @underSTATEDexcellence
    @underSTATEDexcellence 3 місяці тому +2

    They make a huge difference when your in a none ABS such as Formula.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      Oh they absolutely do you can really get to the edge of locking up and then bring it back. They are a literal game changer. Thank you for the comment and the support 👍🏻

  • @KraMelius.
    @KraMelius. 3 місяці тому +1

    yes, yes they do.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      They are incredible now just to practice and develop the skills to use them. Thank you for the comment and the support 👍🏻

  • @Christaz9
    @Christaz9 3 місяці тому +1

    Need to build up that muscle memory firt and then do a review its hard to say of they work after the first race. But yeah they do work braking is so much better with loadcells lol

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      Hi buddy I 100% agree. However this was more of a can they improve times straight away or do you need to learn first rather than improve initially then get better as you learn them. If that makes any kind of sense. Which they do do, I saw an Immediate improvement to my times and the more I race and develop that muscle memory the better and quicker I get. Thank you for the comment and the support 👍🏻.

    • @Christaz9
      @Christaz9 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry you will see after a few weeks months your braking will be so easy it will flow while drivinh even when taking a longer break you come back and your muscle memory knows exactly how much pressure to apply.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely buddy I try and practice every night so hopefully will see an improvement again soon. I’m hoping to once my muscle memory has got better to do an updated video with a comparison between this one and the improvements after a few months.

    • @Christaz9
      @Christaz9 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry Sounds good gonna drop that follow for sure! 😃

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      @Cnlne thank you so much buddy I really appreciate it. Any other advice you wanna say please drop a comment in any of my videos. Thank you so much again for the subscribe and support 👍🏻

  • @Injustrial
    @Injustrial 3 місяці тому +5

    Loadcells are a gamechanger. But stop turning your steering so much. Turn with your pedals instead

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for the advice I really appreciate it 🙂. I have a lot of practicing to do over this weekend. Hopefully in my next race I can grasp this method and you will see an improvement. Thank you again for the advice and support 😁

    • @mikehiggs7464
      @mikehiggs7464 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah definitely think you’re pushing too much into the understeer, you’ll be a lot faster when you find the balance in the steering and throttle/brake inputs into and out of corners. Just takes a bit of practice and patience. Don’t be afraid to rotate the car a slight amount on entry with a bit of trail braking

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      @mikehiggs7464 hi buddy thank you 👍🏻. Yeah I’m trying to find the right balance between turning just right and not early as I have a tendency to do that for some reason. Also trying my hardest to learn braking again with this Loadcell pedals whilst learning to rotate the car with the pedals lol it’s like having to start all over again but I’ll get there. Thank you again for your advice and support I appreciate it 😁.

    • @mikehiggs7464
      @mikehiggs7464 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry just remember nobody gets every corner on every lap absolutely perfect, a mistake is just something to learn from and change on the next lap. I’m quite new to iracing myself although i’ve been sim racing on other sims for a long time so absolutely understand getting used to new software and hardware. Keep at it mate, i’d also like to say I did quite enjoy your video and have subscribed to your channel buddy 👍

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      Hey buddy sorry playing catch up with all the comments I’ve been a bit lapse recently due to work and being ill. Thank you so much for the subscribe but I really appreciate it. I am getting better at just rolling with the mistakes and trying to improve lap after lap.

  • @juanplayz1296
    @juanplayz1296 22 дні тому +1

    Just a quick tip (im no expert) i see that you are turning too much which overheats the tires and wears them and gives you less grip. What i mean by less grip is 0.5 seconds after you turn too much another thing is just to listen to your tires the should not be squealing that much

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  22 дні тому +1

      Hi Juan thank you so much for the advice I really appreciate it 👍🏻. I have started to get the hang of trail braking ( although no where near mastered it lol ) and your 100% correct it does over heat the tyres and cost me so much time. I have noticed my times improve since putting less steering input in. Tyre management is still my weak point but I feel I’m improving slowly. Thank you again for your advice buddy 👍🏻

  • @PR1NCETD0T
    @PR1NCETD0T 3 місяці тому +1

    They do make a difference, you can trail brake way better and chances of spinning out is less.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      They really do, I’m still learning them as they are so different to my old pedals. But despite a few errors on my part I haven’t spun out under braking yet. Thank you for your comment and support I really appreciate it.

    • @PR1NCETD0T
      @PR1NCETD0T 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry i spun a lot trying to get my trail braking on point as much as i can while also getting used to load cells (i got the sim jack pros), already setting some PB’s. But i just got iracing so still learning.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      Yeah I was having the same issue in practice before my next video/race which drops at 3pm BST today. When I was braking how I used to brake I didn’t spin at all probably because I was over slowing down but since trying to incorporate the correct technique my amazing subscribers gave me advice on I was spinning out in practice loads. Luckily I pulled it together for the race I’m definitely not perfect but it’s an improvement. Oooooo what are the sim jack pros like ?. That’s fantastic news buddy nothing better than setting new PB’s. I managed to put in times in practice and qualifying that the top split IRacing guys where putting in, a few tenths off in places but still close to them.

    • @PR1NCETD0T
      @PR1NCETD0T 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry so far the sim jack pro’s are amazing, had to do a fair bit of adjustment though because it doesn’t come with its own software. Still need to tweak around with it to get it perfect but so far the muscle memory is in construction. And yep, over-slowing and shifting at the wrong time can kill lap times, its what ive realized.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      @PR1NCETD0T nice man that’s awesome, glad you’ve got them set up right to and that muscle memory is under construction 👍🏻. Yeah I thought I had a basic understanding of racing seems I’m still a noob learning lol

  • @GP120cv
    @GP120cv 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi can i have your onboard visual setup ?Thanks!

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  2 місяці тому

      Of course. I’m on holiday atm but as soon as I’m back I’ll upload a pic of the settings. Do you want my race onboard settings or my replay settings as they are slightly different ?

    • @GP120cv
      @GP120cv 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@helloharry Race settings.Thanks 😊

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  2 місяці тому +1

      No worries I will screenshot them tonight for you 👍🏻

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  2 місяці тому

      Are you looking for anything in particular btw ?

    • @GP120cv
      @GP120cv 2 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry I really like your driving view, I find it very comfortable. A screenshot of the ingame settings is fine!👍

  • @Jack96993
    @Jack96993 3 місяці тому +1

    What load cell pedals do you have? I went with the Fanatec CSL bundle and added a brake load cell
    Then I could use the standard pedal for my clutch pedal Good race by the way 😅

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      Cheers buddy. I was looking at the fanatec bundle but found a thrustmaster T-LCM local to me being sold cheap so went with that still 100kg force etc and is a lovely set of pedals.

    • @Jack96993
      @Jack96993 3 місяці тому +1

      One think that might get you a second or two that you might do already I learned this on the track with my track car Coming into a turn, flick off the gas then brake as required, ( no throttle until apex) and trail brake But it's important to flick off the gas as fast as possible

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      @Jack96993 hi buddy. I have actually only just started doing this as I’ve been practicing trail braking and found that sometimes I needed to flick on and off. But I’m still learning it to get it done properly lol.

    • @Jack96993
      @Jack96993 3 місяці тому +1

      @helloharry For some reason I wasn't flicking off the gas fast, just before the braking zone in iRacing And realized I wasn't doing it and actually coasting into the breaking zone costing me time Oh you're doing great! Keep it up and have fun 👍

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      @Jack96993 I have noticed on my early videos I was doing that now you mention it. Definitely going to be something I watch for again now lol. Thank you buddy I am having fun and love learning all this new stuff :-) 👍🏻

  • @Wzrd8
    @Wzrd8 3 місяці тому +1

    If you don't stay on top of these kinds of pedals they will spike and float all over he place. And with how often I beat on mine I'm constantly having to tighten the bolts and re-calibrate. Fanatech club sports. These things piss me off beyond belief, I almost chucked them into the woods on multiple occasions.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      Ahhhh another top tip as I wasn’t aware that they could loosen I mean I guess over long continuous use I kinda expected it little bit. Thank you I will keep an eye on mine now. Oh dear lol so you wouldn’t recommend Fanatec then ?. Thank you for the comment and support 👍🏻

    • @Wzrd8
      @Wzrd8 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry I'd just not recommend loadcells. They work great if I keep them clean though they can suddenly float mid run and have ruined a few races. I'm sure if I swap the brake cell they'd be golden.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      @Wzrd8 hmmmm that’s concerning I think I might do some more research on to this. I haven’t noticed anything yet but they are fairly new to me so might be ok for a while. What do you think about fanatec going bankrupt ? Do you think you might change brands because of it ?

    • @Wzrd8
      @Wzrd8 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry to be fair mine are quite old and used to belong to an endurance team mate, so thoroughly beaten on. If yours are new you probably do have a while. Then again I'm still using a g25 and it never had the off center issue common to that model. I'll probably end up switching just because I want new every thing and a working h pattern to go with it, the g25s hasn't worked since windows 7. But I have to buy a real car first lmao.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      Ahhhh so they have been well and truly used lol. Mine are used but only by a few months I believe. I would love to get a direct drive wheel at some point as much as I do like my g29 I’d like just abit more power. Have you looked at MOZA stuff ?. Yes defo need to buy a real car first, what have you got in mind for a car ?

  • @kingsaka5042
    @kingsaka5042 3 місяці тому +1

    1 big tip from a average sim racer. try not to oversteer as much as you are in this vid. it doesnt help you steer more and youre actually turning less as youre overheating the front tyres so you just understeer.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому +1

      Hi kingsaka thanks for the advice buddy. A few of my other subscribers have mentioned that as well. I am trying to break the habit but I’ve been doing it for it so long that’s proving hard to kick lol. In my latest video I feel I managed to turn the car more with my pedals and slightly less steering input, and my fall off frrom the grip was significantly less I had a lot less understeer at the end then on my previous races. I will continue to practice and hopefully see an improvement. Thank you so much for the advice and support I really appreciate it 😁

    • @1067148
      @1067148 3 місяці тому +1

      @@helloharry A good example is at 4:47. You are not too bad through the corner, but you understeered on exit. When getting on the gas, the Mazda is very prone to understeering. When you triggered the understeer, your reflex was to add more steering input while it should be to let off the gas a bit.
      When the car is understeering, more steering angle doesn't make the car turn more and it overheat the tire and compound the issue. I find that it was espacially noticable at Tsukuba last week.

    • @helloharry
      @helloharry  3 місяці тому

      @1067148 ahhhh ok thank you buddy good observation. I guess this falls under the using your pedals not your wheel to rotate the car as well. Thank you so much for the comment and the support 👍🏻