New Beginnings - Episode 1 William Branham Historical Research Podcast

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  • @olumidejesusdavid5393
    @olumidejesusdavid5393 2 роки тому +31

    From Lagos Nigeria, fire on brothers! We are getting liberated through this work.
    More grace

    • @gofamintkasoaghana8476
      @gofamintkasoaghana8476 11 місяців тому

      Good morning, I left the message in 1994, I started the End time message journey with Grace and Truth of Late Bishop John Ogu.

  • @CRWottrich
    @CRWottrich 2 роки тому +34

    Thank you for your courage to share openly Charles! And thank you John for your continued efforts to share the truth. I’m looking forward to all the new information that Charles brings to the table.

  • @LongforTruth1
    @LongforTruth1 2 роки тому +21

    Can't wait to see this!

  • @brothercaleb
    @brothercaleb 2 роки тому +11

    Let’s go!!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @forkids1212
    @forkids1212 2 роки тому +2

    Glory Glory Hallelujah...
    Glory Glory Hallelujah..
    Glory Glory Hallelujah....
    His Truth is Matching on....
    Standing in the Gap...
    I love the Message....
    God bless you...

  • @trishgoski4944
    @trishgoski4944 2 роки тому +8

    Thank you! What you’re doing can help so many people who have come out of other cults as well. The cult leaders have the same MO’s, with different flavors & different intensities of abuse. I actually did research back in the 90’s regarding grief & loss as it relates to former cult members.

  • @David-Rwema
    @David-Rwema 2 роки тому +25

    I was born in DR Congo and grew up in Rwanda in East and Central Africa there are a lot of Brothers and Sisters which believe the message of Branham. I pray they receive this truth about Branham

    • @quintusgaius5477
      @quintusgaius5477 2 роки тому +3

      @RestoredToTruth it is the truth !!! The truth will set you free !!

    • @quintusgaius5477
      @quintusgaius5477 2 роки тому

      @RestoredToTruth you know what .... Dumitru Duduman à romanian christian à man of God wrote à book. He had visions God gave him visions and he said that Russia will do harm to America. A message believer wrote that nothing can destroy america, à message believer said that WMB said : nothing can destroy america. WMB is a fake prophet à fake fake fake prophet. And Russia will do harm to America. Russia is in Ukraine right now and Russia is not afraid !!!! WMB is a fake prophet. Doyou know what ... Derek Prince à great great man of God wrote à book Prosecution from Déception and in his book he pointed out that WMB had à ministry and his ministry was influenced by 2 différent spirits.

    • @quintusgaius5477
      @quintusgaius5477 2 роки тому +3

      @RestoredToTruth you know what .... WMB took à picture with Anna Schrader and Billy Paul Branham. WMB said that Anna Schrader was a great great prophetess filled with the Holy Spirit. Anna Schrader gave a prophecy about the death of WMB : I will take the life of WMB because of damage he is doing in the Body of Christ !!!!
      Even Gordan Linsday knew that prophecy and warned WMB. Gordon told him : Billy you are not à teacher so do not teach, but WMB did not obey. He said : I will teach anyway !! I will teach !! I will teach !! And once again Anna gave a prophecy : Warn WMB, Warn him, he is taking the way of Dowie Dowie Dowie !!!! Dowie siad he was Malachi 4 but in reality he was not Malachi 4 Elijah.

    • @quintusgaius5477
      @quintusgaius5477 2 роки тому

      @RestoredToTruth you know what.... there are à lot of things that you do not know. I love William Seymour ( Azusa Street Revival ). You know what.... during the Azusa Street Revival there was Spiritual Gifts and other Spiritual gifts such as : writing in foreign languages, writing in foreign languages, writting in foreign languages. Some people who had no éducation no instruction no PHD who had nothing could write write write in foreign languages. And William Seymour said this : the Bible talks about 9 Gifts 9, 9, 9 not 10, not 11, not 12 but 9 so we have to stay with the Holy Bible. We had to stay with what is written in the Holy Bible. Ohhhh I love this man of God. He did not want to do a big mistake this is why he said : we have to stay with what the Bible says. The Bible says 9 Gifts so stay with 9 gifts.
      But but but WMB has donc what his angel told him to do. Here is the problem !!! His angel gave him 3 unknown words and Brabham accepted it. But but but what says Colossians 3 v 17 ???? Read read read !!! Stay with the Bible !! William Seymour said it and even FF Bosworth said it, stay with the Bible. Do not go on the left, do not go on the right but stay with what it is written !!!! In the book Christ the Healer of FF Bosworth, Bosworth recommand us to stay with its written its written its written, the Bible says, the Bible says the Bible says, its written !!!

    • @pastorcaleb999
      @pastorcaleb999 10 місяців тому +1

      True Prophet is not honoured in his own country, that's what happened in the ministry of mighty Prophet Branham, but around the world millions of millions people rely on his message and his message came from God, no true minister of God or a true believer of God never speaks against the true Prophet of God

  • @suechapel1443
    @suechapel1443 2 роки тому +22

    I watched you John on Daniel Long, so much great information 👍 I've never heard of W.B. until recently but can see his tentacles in many ways in other cults such as NAR.

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@suechapel1443 Why is it only people like you call Message Believers a “cult?” Are other religions cults too based on what they believe in?

  • @carlosparra1777
    @carlosparra1777 2 роки тому +13

    "We knew for years what does it hurt for you to beleive it anyways"- what a conceal proverb from the sect. They know better.

    • @unbelievable6220
      @unbelievable6220 2 роки тому +1

      The Truth shall you set you free, Amen!

    • @carlosparra1777
      @carlosparra1777 2 роки тому

      @@unbelievable6220 Yes, the truth of the Gospel the good news. Proverbs 1:7. We are free, we are reformed Christians in the words of God. Not another Jesus, but the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch
    @StevenKozarMessedUpChurch 2 роки тому +22

    Keep up the good work, John!!

    • @exvan3571
      @exvan3571 2 роки тому +2

      Oh noes....the Kozarses!

    • @justinchamberlain3443
      @justinchamberlain3443 2 роки тому

      There seems to be some truth here but Martin luther and John Calvin ordered the drowning of thousands of innocent anabaptist women. So he's likely a con but how many innocent anabaptist women did william Branham order to be drown? Can you murder ppl and still be saved? 1Jn3:15 How about doing a video on the false prophets luther & calvin based off of the historically documented & irrefutable research found in Matryrs Mirror. How about do a video on the German farmer fritz erbe that luther specifically tortured at Wartburg to death for at least 8 yrs until he finally died? You see no one gets to hsve heroes

  • @David-Rwema
    @David-Rwema 2 роки тому +24

    Hello, you made me think about every lies I have been preached since I was a teenager in so called Branham’s latter days Message. I am no longer one of the people who believe that Branham is a prophet anymore. Truth set me free
    Thank you so much. Shalom

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  2 роки тому +5

      I am very glad you are free, my friend!

    • @quintusgaius5477
      @quintusgaius5477 2 роки тому

      @RestoredToTruth you are à slave !!! Seek the truth and the truth will set you free.

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      What lies were you told?? Why don’t you believe he’s a prophet??

    • @David-Rwema
      @David-Rwema Місяць тому +1

      @@paulemongo1929 why do I have to believe he was a prophet?
      You can believe they way you want do not worry about me I am not in that occult anymore

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@David-Rwema You don’t have to believe that he is and quite frankly it doesn’t matter if you do or don’t because he was a true vindicated prophet of God.
      Also, the message believers aren’t a “cult” we are the Elected Bride of Christ!!

  • @leahmckay1431
    @leahmckay1431 2 роки тому +16

    I'm looking forward to watching!

  • @lesliewells1062
    @lesliewells1062 2 роки тому +11

    Praise the Lord!! I am putting it on my calendar!!!!

  • @Nfl233
    @Nfl233 Рік тому +7

    I'm really excited for this series. Great work, guys, and thanks for doing this!

  • @lisravert1725
    @lisravert1725 2 роки тому +7

    Charles I love your library... along with all the other information you're sharing.

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  2 роки тому +1

      @Lelk Hope Wait'll you see the next episode when we start digging into that library ;)

  • @jerrysullivan8424
    @jerrysullivan8424 2 роки тому +18

    Thank you for exposing false teachings. My prayers are with you all. If any Branham nites are watching in the Kansas City metro area, you are in my prayers.

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@jerrysullivan8424 There’s no such thing as “Branhamites” we are Message Believers and if you’re not that’s okay.
      What are the false teachings? I’d love to hear your point of view

  • @phyllislunsford8657
    @phyllislunsford8657 2 роки тому +7

    I’m so excited about This podcast. Thank you so much for your hard diligent work and research. I was in charismatic for a few years but it messed me up. Thank God I had sound theology before and God pulled me out and I’ve been watching discernment ministries , hit the bar and a messed up church, fighting for the faith, long for the truth. And that’s how I was introduced to you guys praise God many people need to be set free. And this can equipped me to help bring light to people that are in darkness. But they truly think they’re saved. It breaks my heart. thank you very much

    • @phyllislunsford8657
      @phyllislunsford8657 2 роки тому +1

      @Lelk Hope First of all thank you for the kind and personal response that you gave me. In 1994 I was born again through a little home church in Temecula California. I was 34 and I couldn’t read. So it made it very difficult for me to read the word of God eventually God taught me. but I was at the mercy of people teaching me either right or wrong. I had no clue at all that there were false teachings out there at the time.
      I personally didn’t get very rooted and grounded in the Word because of it. I was like a little child that believed everything that was told me. I picked up the left behind series and started reading it. Reading these books helped me to learn how to read as I was struggling through the Bible. That was my first exposure to false doctrine. Then I got in a Calvary chapel church. Which was pretty sound but lacking so much depth of imagery and types and shadows and understanding Poetry are essential things you need to know to understand the old testament and revelation. A few years went by and I drifted because of events in my life that rocked my faith. And I fell away. And then I had a friend I’ve known for quite a while she was involved in this small church that was all about John G lake and Wigglesworth and so many other false dead guys. They were all about healing and it was your fault if you didn’t get healed. I first resisted They never taught the word out of the Bible they used to make what they called truth papers and they were just single scriptures put together on a page to convey what they wanted the Bible to say.
      They very much promoted sinlessness in this life if you had one sin AT ALL, anything you had lost the Holy Spirit and you were dead in your trespasses. You are no longer a Christian.
      After years of this and can’t live up to the standard. It discourages your heart and I fell away again. But I quickly got back up and I went into a ministry called Teen Challenge. I believe David Wilkerson was pretty sound but he was a Pentecostal he believed in prophets. He’s passed away maybe 14 years ago now and that ministry has gone rogue. They are supported and promoted by assemblies of god. They definitely believe in laughing in the spirit and rolling on the ground like a dog out-of-control, slain in the spirit. There’s slang in a spirit all right a wicked spirit.
      I noticed right away none of the leaders had a clue who God was. After five months I actually became staff for about a year and a half and this is when my eyes were opened. I was amongst women and men that did not have a clue who God was absolutely teaching whatever they wanted the Bible to say and not knowing the true of God, it’s all about a feeling. And wanting to know the next word for someone’s life. This is very appealing to someone who’s really lost and broken and have been rejected by their family and their love ones. It feeds your ego that you’re OK your special God‘s gonna do great things through you.
      Praise God he brought across my feed fighting for the faith with Chris Roseboro. And for about three years now I watch discernment ministries, include you, Steve Kosar, long for the truth. These men have taught me how to see underneath what they’re saying to what they’re really getting at and how it’s not even in the Bible not even close. So now I have a burning desire in my heart to not just evangelize but to do apologetics so I study the different religions and cults. I’m in a great little church in Lake Elsinore that is solid in the word of God learning every single time I’m there which is quite often during the week. I study the word myself in the Holy Spirit teaches me. I have matured in the word of God and I’m ready for my part of the fight.
      I’m angry at these men and women. I know so many people and also I see most of Christianity is locked up in this. And what interest me with you guys is these are the roots, you need to know the roots to know if the tree is good or bad.
      I need to know the information you guys have and know it well. I pray God set many people free from just knowing the background and where this started. Thank you so much for your response hope this wasn’t too long.
      In His service
      Phyllis

    • @phyllislunsford8657
      @phyllislunsford8657 2 роки тому

      Can I ask you a question about a man called Reese Howells?
      Have you read his book I believe he was from Welse and right about the time before World War started and during World War II he had a Bible college. I would like to know if you’re familiar with this man and if you can you give me information about who he really is? I appreciate your time.
      In His service
      Phyllis

    • @phyllislunsford8657
      @phyllislunsford8657 2 роки тому

      Praise God I really enjoyed his book I read it more than once the things he did were pretty impossible the way he starved himself and lived among the sick. Eight and only wore clothing that the homeless people. But it’s not impossible if that’s your call thank, you so much. I love the account of how his school in prayer helped change the war is pretty amazing. And I’m glad I’m not disappointed thank you

    • @phyllislunsford8657
      @phyllislunsford8657 2 роки тому

      I don’t understand your question when you asked me actually what I was saying concerning the digs. What are the digs pardon my ignorance.
      I also was at Bethel for only six weeks right before I got hired for Teen Challenge and I knew in my spirit during worship something was seriously wrong. And their so-called worship services were evil. They had these kids hysterically out of control and believing every lie they told. Made me sick. But until I actually experienced their church I thought there was a move of God up there and I only knew their music that’s it, nothing else about them. I believe millions are being led astray by so-called “Christian music”. I listen to hymns hundreds of years old awesome hymns.
      I wrote my testimony in a poem that’s absolutely profound I have never written a poem and I asked the Lord if I could and I wrote in 2 nights. I have it I could send it to you on email if you would like it?
      If you would like it please send me your email and I will send it thank you so much

    • @phyllislunsford8657
      @phyllislunsford8657 2 роки тому

      Yes at Bethel I went to there Saturday healing services. And they tried to lengthen my leg lol. When I went up for prayer they were trying to push me on the ground I refused.
      They had many worship services with just their BSSM students. They were demonically out of control it made me sick I had to leave I couldn’t be outside they were crazy in the parking lot inside while demonic music is being played. it made me sick to my stomach. But I haven’t figured it all out yet. God hadn’t revealed everything but little by little it only took six weeks so praise God for that. I even went to their Sozo therapy ( ONE TIME) it was the most ridiculous thing in my life they wanted me to pay $75 I’m not paying anything until I have a session. It was a joke it was so unbelievable they told me to ask my physical heart for forgiveness. 🤦🏼‍♀️
      Now I went from that fire I even went through a fire tunnel.
      I was a football mom so it’s just like when the parents stand on either side and the team runs through and you cheer them on that’s exactly what it was it was ridiculous.
      I even took a picture with Bill Johnson. 😂
      But it was living with these students and graduates, I was renting a little back house from these students some of them were in school and some of them have been graduated for five years. And they had many concerts in the house and we went to different peoples houses and they were all playing music but as soon as the music stopped, and they open their mouth what they were supposedly prophesying over each other was at her nonsense wasn’t practically English that’s where I saw the fruit of that church and their school.

  • @kristigibs
    @kristigibs 2 роки тому +23

    Thanks for sharing what you know with us, Charles! And welcome to the ex-message community. We look forward to getting to know you better through the podcast.

    • @brothercaleb
      @brothercaleb 2 роки тому +4

      Absolutely

    • @sharon-rosenyakurwa-mhanga7124
      @sharon-rosenyakurwa-mhanga7124 Рік тому

      You are weird,why do you need a community for such,you know you left the truth and try to.comfort each other with these lies

  • @karmajeffers3194
    @karmajeffers3194 2 роки тому +11

    Looking forward to it👍

  • @arthurbrugge2457
    @arthurbrugge2457 2 роки тому +5

    God bless, brothers. You are doing a great work. Just one more in the line of those who bring people out of falsehood. I appreciate your candour and honesty, while still being kind. Thank you.

  • @cdb2161
    @cdb2161 2 роки тому +7

    I'm ready!

  • @foreman_spike
    @foreman_spike 2 роки тому +9

    Been looking forward to this!

  • @dannyboi_663
    @dannyboi_663 2 роки тому +16

    So glad the podcast is back up!

  • @brothercaleb
    @brothercaleb 2 роки тому +7

    See you in the live chat everybody 🍿

  • @matthayes3679
    @matthayes3679 2 роки тому +3

    Appreciate both of you

  • @Radicallambschannel
    @Radicallambschannel Рік тому +5

    Hey John, there's a white light over your left shoulder! 😮 And it's larger than WB's! 😂

  • @LolaPope-s3p
    @LolaPope-s3p Рік тому +3

    Great research

  • @paulcaucci2528
    @paulcaucci2528 2 роки тому +7

    I read a book several years ago by Derek Prince, " Protection from Deception", and he mentions William Branum, and it was pointing out the fact that Branum had two different spirits operating in his ministry. A frightening reality to say the least. I highly recommend the book. Bless your ministry.

    • @theemptyatom
      @theemptyatom Рік тому

      Derek Prince was as much of a fraud as Branham

    • @paulcaucci2528
      @paulcaucci2528 Рік тому +1

      @@theemptyatom You probably don't know either one of them. Your name is appropriate for your understanding.

    • @theemptyatom
      @theemptyatom Рік тому

      @@paulcaucci2528 Actually, I know quite a bit about both of them. Clearly, you do not, or you would not be defending these lowlifes and realize how much and often they scammed people. Arguing with someone like you who has "true believer syndrome" is like arguing with people today who think women have penises.

    • @paulcaucci2528
      @paulcaucci2528 Рік тому

      @@theemptyatom I doubt it. And you are full of yourself. You think too much of your lame opinion. I knew Derek Prince personally and you accused him of being a fraud. That proves that you don't know him.

    • @theemptyatom
      @theemptyatom Рік тому

      @@paulcaucci2528 Peope said that about Oral Roberts and Jim Jones too, and now Derek Prince apparently

  • @heidispeasmaker4809
    @heidispeasmaker4809 2 роки тому +3

    I Hope you guys have copies of that library in a vault somewhere. You have some creepy stories of being stalked! Praying for your protection as you courageously bring light to the darkness. May the Lord bless and keep you.

  • @Sekte-kultovi
    @Sekte-kultovi 2 роки тому +4

    God bless you both

  • @jamesmanuel3671
    @jamesmanuel3671 2 роки тому +6

    Wow!! Just wow!!

    • @ettienesauls5143
      @ettienesauls5143 Рік тому

      One of you guys are either divorced gay or enjoying red wine and started wearing funny clothes.Just go on with your lives live it.Just enjoy your lives brothers.We're praying for you

  • @TheElizabethashby
    @TheElizabethashby 2 роки тому +3

    THANK YOU

  • @biblicalworldview1
    @biblicalworldview1 Рік тому +4

    Hey! I just discovered this podcast. I'm so excited to listen to it. Thank you both for all the work you put into this. Your book, Preacher Behind the White Hoods, was shocking and meticulously researched. I long knew Branham was a lying charlatan, but the depths of evil is truly breathtaking.
    It's Kris B.

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@biblicalworldview1 What exactly did WMB lie about?? I believe he was a man who made humanly mistakes just as you and I do

    • @biblicalworldview1
      @biblicalworldview1 Місяць тому

      @@paulemongo1929 He lied about being under the cloud (after first saying it was a day or two before or after when it was over a week). He lied about the "pillar" of fire over his head. He lied about writing down the seven prophecies in 1933, which changed as he told it, and never provided a shred of evidence that these were prophesied prior to their completion. He lied about miracles and healings. He lied about what the Bible teaches on the triune nature of God. He lied about Serpent Seed false teaching. There are lists of his lies as they far exceed the few that I have listed here. He was a racist, evil false prophet and false teacher who led thousands astray.

  • @simon23604
    @simon23604 2 роки тому +4

    I can’t wait for the next episode

  • @Amezoe7
    @Amezoe7 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks all this. I personally would like to know more about william marvin Branham true story, the whole of it. his education and miracle birth of his younger son Joseph.

  • @bloodjl1
    @bloodjl1 Рік тому +3

    God have mercy is the only thing I can even say. 😢 nothing can ever pull the truth out of my heart. You can believe what you want that is between you and God but for me and my house we know Bro. Branham is a prophet of God.

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  Рік тому +1

      Thank you, friend! All of us need a little more of God’s mercy!

  • @TRONMAGNUM2099
    @TRONMAGNUM2099 2 роки тому +4

    WOW!!!

  • @jossiahkandoje1151
    @jossiahkandoje1151 2 роки тому +13

    I love listening to this. Keep up the good work… follower from Malawi

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  2 роки тому +7

      Wow! I had to look up where Malawi is -- You come from a long way, my friend! Hope you enjoy the podcast!

    • @annameyers5557
      @annameyers5557 2 роки тому

      Someday someone Wiil through out your skeletons too.I believe there is a lot in your closets.

    • @annameyers5557
      @annameyers5557 2 роки тому

      My daughter just remind me that br Branham won't be please with my anger towards you if he was still still alive.

    • @numbernine8571
      @numbernine8571 Рік тому

      I pray that you and your family are safe.
      This video may have saved your life.

  • @carlosparra1777
    @carlosparra1777 2 роки тому +4

    Let's go.......

  • @ericgatera7149
    @ericgatera7149 2 роки тому +6

    Interesting exchange. In our region (Rwanda and DRC), we call Brahnam followers, Brahnamistes. Interesting to hear that in other part of the world they have other names such as Brahnamites or the followers of 'the message'. As a Catholic, I have been debating Brahnamistes since 1996 either informally i.e in persons exchange or formaly (once in a public debate at a Brahnamiste Church on the topic of Polygamy). It good to hear that they are people who are leaving the sects and rebuilding their lives on truthful information.

    • @ericgatera7149
      @ericgatera7149 2 роки тому

      @Lelk Hope yes, all the time. And they had a special vehemence against the Holy Catholic Church, even above other trinitarian assemblies.

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@ericgatera7149 We are message believers not “Branhamites” there’s no such thing as that. You all have made that label from yourselves. Catholicism is just a perversion of Christianity

  • @krangkraken6466
    @krangkraken6466 2 роки тому +4

    The strategies you mention are especially interesting considering that Jim Jones claimed that Branham offered to teach him to attract crowds.

  • @TheALLYCAT97
    @TheALLYCAT97 Рік тому +3

    I heard a local Preacher of this Ministry say he only had a 8th grade education and his message he once preached was it wasn't important to graduate. And it is a blasphemy for women to go off to college they needed to be at home with the children.

    • @dannyboi_663
      @dannyboi_663 Рік тому

      Women at my old message church were BLASTED for getting higher education or a job. Makes me sick.

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@TheALLYCAT97 Education is important and Brother Branham also said it was. Now, when you start putting everything else in front of God that’s when it becomes a problem.

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@dannyboi_663 To be fair the Bible never taught for women to work only men but to your point of view with this economy it does the man and woman to work.

  • @olegluzanov6012
    @olegluzanov6012 2 роки тому +9

    Great job! Keep on exposing the lies

  • @emmaanderson3523
    @emmaanderson3523 10 місяців тому +2

    People can build a cult around any name they choose? We can pray for all but "My sheep will hear My voice " is greatest to know.

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@emmaanderson3523 Okay, so is your religion or what you believe in a cult??

  • @jonkoenig5828
    @jonkoenig5828 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you very much!

  • @Whereevertheymaybe
    @Whereevertheymaybe 10 місяців тому +1

    What a blessing to hear this conversation. The Lord Jesus brought you both out, a true resuer and Saviour. I was delivered out of a false system. Wow what a Lord. Keep contending for the Fairh. Your doing the Lord's work, exposing darkeness, its dangerous work. Prayer for your protection, Satan and his ministers are not happy with your rescue mission.

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      Actually his is Satan and his ministry work looking to deceive even the very elect. Shame on you!

  • @taylorvandermartin2946
    @taylorvandermartin2946 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you men for sharing your story. I don't have any direct connection to the message. Just watching many false teachings exposed from many sources. God bless

  • @faithworks217
    @faithworks217 Рік тому +4

    Lol! You had an uncle who said you were a homosexual? I was raised in the two-by-two cult. I had an uncle who was angry at me because I became a Christian outside of that church. I think he heard that I was helping to feed the homeless in downtown Vancouver and it made him jealous on behalf of his church. The two-by-twos don't do charitable works, that I know of. Their holiness is wrapped up in how they dress and other rules they adhere to. My uncle told my relatives that I was retarded and selling my body on the street. My youngest brother was furious when he told me about this.

  • @TheElizabethashby
    @TheElizabethashby 2 роки тому +3

    WOW, HOW DID I MISS THIS ONE?

  • @farmchick5705
    @farmchick5705 2 роки тому +5

    While I was never part of a direct ministry of Branham's, I recognize this evil man's influence within The Church in general. I realize his manure-filled doctrine infiltrated the denomination of my upbringing, too. I am forever grateful for your research and the historic details shared, which has helped me reject, renounce, and terminate any involvement the hijacked, diabolic belief systems this man man has influenced. Christ alone!

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  2 роки тому +2

      I am very glad that you are free, my friend!

    • @quintusgaius5477
      @quintusgaius5477 2 роки тому

      @RestoredToTruth but but what are you doing here ??? If you love the message so get off !!! Get out of here !!! Go to another channel !!!

    • @farmchick5705
      @farmchick5705 2 роки тому

      @RestoredToTruth Leave the flippancy at the door! 'Tis the Holy Spirit who has KEPT ME, REVEALING TRUTH through scripture. The work done by 'Leaving the Message' remains a gift from God for many who were ensnared by the hijinks of false leaders and faith movements. (Matt. 7:13-14)

    • @farmchick5705
      @farmchick5705 2 роки тому

      ​@RestoredToTruth I see engaging in banter with you proves to be pearls before swine! I walk with Christ alone. All other is sinking sand.

    • @farmchick5705
      @farmchick5705 2 роки тому +1

      @RestoredToTruth Your flippancy, accusing me of not seeking council through Scriptures in previous engagement belies your supposed Godly intent. Movin' on.

  • @johnfinger4592
    @johnfinger4592 2 роки тому +3

    Spent a year trying to learn about B.B . Just could not get past his anger issues and his Revaluation teaching. So I was trying to hold on to his life story found on U tube. Now I have to delete the whole entire account from my soul. A little leaven spoils the whole lump. It’s a very humbling experience. Did he see any visions at all?

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@johnfinger4592 Yes, indeed he did!

  • @Idrissengana-wmb
    @Idrissengana-wmb 4 дні тому

    I believed message of the hour 🙀😔 ❤

  • @ngouloubennlistone
    @ngouloubennlistone 6 місяців тому +1

    There are many Branhamists in French-speaking Central Africa. If this whole series could be translated into French it could enlighten a lot of peuple...

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@ngouloubennlistone There are also a lot of non believers like you who do exist. I hope you come to your senses and believe one day

  • @ConstantCompanion
    @ConstantCompanion 4 дні тому

    I won't get into it but when I confronted my father? He said something similar. I literally thought I was going to pass out. He instantly became a completely different person. Eventually he disowned me. Never told me why.

  • @faithworks217
    @faithworks217 Рік тому +4

    Will you be doing a podcast about John G. Lake?

  • @jamegumb6625
    @jamegumb6625 Рік тому +5

    I’m an ex cult member that’s looking for answers after going full atheist, I live in Florida, can I attend the church online?

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@jamegumb6625 What cult were you in? How can you go from believing God exists to not believing He doesn’t?

  • @probunnysaavy7589
    @probunnysaavy7589 Рік тому +2

    I thought Hobart Freeman pastored a church called Faith Assembly in Indiana.

    • @Charles-Paisley
      @Charles-Paisley Рік тому +1

      Yes, he did. Elkhart Indiana. About 125 people died in that church before they were shut down about 1985.

  • @theemptyatom
    @theemptyatom Рік тому +5

    Leave a cult and within one year already starting another church - that is pretty quick, interesting.

  • @karmajeffers3194
    @karmajeffers3194 Рік тому +1

    I was unable to get your podcast today l suppose the message people to person was successful in shutting the broadcast down hope something can be done soon about this. You guys are definitely getting under these people skin

  • @caasiarabi8341
    @caasiarabi8341 2 роки тому +3

    Hi Shalom. You guys have a Facebook live going one as well. Can't seem to find any. I'll share the link though!

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  2 роки тому +2

      Yes. Facebook, Twitter, (and other social) links on the website on this page:
      william-branham.org/site/social
      Main Facebook page here:
      facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg
      Videos go to another page in case the cult brings down another UA-cam site:
      facebook.com/wmbvideo

  • @michelleruyter9712
    @michelleruyter9712 Рік тому +4

    My husband stills believes the message due to the apparent healings and vindication...how do I address this. Help

    • @jasonm2261
      @jasonm2261 Рік тому +1

      Scripture and Prayer. Praying for you. My brother and Aunt's are still firm believers please pray for them.

    • @mattleitner5194
      @mattleitner5194 6 місяців тому

      Sharing Truth with Message Believers | Part 1: How to prepare
      This series from CR Wattrich on UA-cam is very helpful
      I also found the book from Peter Duyzer very helpful; but a person has to be willing to read the book.
      My wife and daughters are still in the message, I just got out a year ago myself and I have many friends and relatives in TM.

  • @greglogan7706
    @greglogan7706 Рік тому +2

    John - My Apologies for not following up with my lack of clearly understanding your email - I have sent you an email of clarification and apology.
    I look forward to reviewing the links below before following up further.
    Greg

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  Рік тому +1

      Well, friend, when I ... did ... respond, I shared the research with the examples of using "prayer cards" like all the other bogus faith healers of the era, which did not work so well when people had difficult-to-pronounce names or got in line out of order.
      Your response to me was, and I quote: "Thanks for the speedy follow-up - and the well informed podcasts."
      For others who wish to see the information that I shared:
      william-branham.org/site/research/topics/prayer_cards
      william-branham.org/site/research/topics/prayer_lines
      william-branham.org/site/research/topics/errors_in_discernment

  • @pastorcaleb999
    @pastorcaleb999 10 місяців тому +1

    Fallen angels never stand with the truth only the genuine children of God stand with Prophet Branham's

  • @tulanijones7865
    @tulanijones7865 9 місяців тому +1

    Where can we see Roy Davis' letter to Gordon Lindsey exposing Branham's backstory?

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  9 місяців тому +1

      william-branham.org/site/research/topics/life_story_exposed_by_voice_of_healing

  • @twelvmnkys
    @twelvmnkys 9 місяців тому +1

    I can't find season 1 in the podcast section of this channel. Does it still exist?

  • @Savedbygrace22
    @Savedbygrace22 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks John this is truly interesting. Saw you on Long For Truth a while back then again on your latest interview. I was thinking this man’s life is like a dime store novel except it seems to be much darker. I had heard of this man by Benny Hinn but had no idea there are cults that follow his “personas” like you did.
    I wonder if there is a book somewhere on his life that’s not a lie like Gods Generals is?
    Also if this information your talking about is new maybe you both could collaborate on one.
    I’ll be praying for you and your family as well as Charles’s, it seems there is active dangerous warfare going on towards you. God is greater than he who is in the world.✝️
    Btw, this may sound dumb but I haven’t heard your testimony of salvation, do you speak of it somewhere? Peace🙏

  • @JohnnyG2011
    @JohnnyG2011 2 роки тому +4

    “Everyone Loved the Blue Boar”, unless of course, you were a minority! LOL
    What sect did Charles belong to and how did it differ from Branham Taberknuckle?

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  2 роки тому +2

      LOL! "Taberknuckle". I'm going to reuse this joke :)
      We will get into this more as we continue. He mentions being in Raymond "Junior" Jackson's sect. Jackson was a high-ranking member of Branham's cult of personality, also in Jeffersonville at what Branham called "the sister church".

  • @richard8daylim76
    @richard8daylim76 2 роки тому +1

    Do you have a list of what main teachings of Brother branham and the arguments against it? thanks

  • @KAC-5555
    @KAC-5555 7 місяців тому +1

    Never heard if the message ? Except tge bible ( The Message)

  • @annielyst
    @annielyst 10 місяців тому +1

    What is "The Message"?

  • @carolynbateman5138
    @carolynbateman5138 2 роки тому +2

    How much Freemason connection?

  • @Idrissengana-wmb
    @Idrissengana-wmb 4 дні тому

    This is crazy 🤣😧

  • @brothercaleb
    @brothercaleb 2 роки тому +4

    John, are you going to put this in a separate playlist? Currently there’s no playlist on the channel.
    Thanks again

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  2 роки тому +3

      ua-cam.com/play/PL-dhzfp_gxGcmCqYPCDbnRSda6PiHosPt.html

    • @brothercaleb
      @brothercaleb 2 роки тому +1

      @@LeavingtheMessage awesome 👍🏾

  • @dennistolar8362
    @dennistolar8362 2 роки тому

    I missed something. What book did William Branham get some of his doctrine from?

    • @dennistolar8362
      @dennistolar8362 2 роки тому

      @RestoredToTruth That's not the one they were talking about.

  • @kellentia
    @kellentia 10 місяців тому +1

    Sorry but what is "the message"?

  • @landoncraighead7688
    @landoncraighead7688 Рік тому +2

    Theres a halo ov we r ur left shoulder 😮

  • @Whereevertheymaybe
    @Whereevertheymaybe 10 місяців тому +2

    A suggestion, take those verses of Scripture Branham used to deceive and give the right interpretation, and expose his false message. A works salvation and a false Jesus. This cult mixes truth with error, show where he did this. Expose his false teaching with the Truth. U would like to see a pidcast of all the false teaching of this man. And what to avoid, explain what to look for in warnings of these splinter groups. Thanks

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@Whereevertheymaybe What scriptures did he use to deceive?? I’d love to hear what you believe and if it’s Bible Based… What you should avoid is listening to this foolish videos by John Collins

  • @NihilisticJawbreaker
    @NihilisticJawbreaker Рік тому +2

    As a highly educated, LGBT+ woman who survived and was excommunicated from an offshoot of this cult and its abuses, I appreciate what you are doing here. Thank you for sharing your stories.
    Although I must say that it hurts my heart that you would even care if someone thought you were gay and feel the need to defend yourself against it. People want to know why we (LGBT+, women, and others) leave churches and don't find other places of worship. It's because we don't feel safe or even very welcome in Christianity at this point.

    • @matthewleitner6399
      @matthewleitner6399 Рік тому +4

      Amanda. I am sorry for your bad experiences with a cult and you not feeling safe or welcome in Christianity. I believe Jesus and his people welcome everyone, that doesn't mean that God is like a permissive parent just letting His children do whatever they want. This kind of parent demonstrates a lack of love. A good parent, loves, cares, nurtures and sets boundaries and enforces the rules. Ideally these rules are for the child's betterment. Our Creator has done the same for us, and he certainly, loves, cares and nurtures us human beings! He also has set boundaries/rules/commandments. One of God's rules prohibit homosexual activity. This does not mean that God or His people do not love you Amanda. Please consider checking out some of the many ministries out there that are reaching out to the LGBT+ community. With love and tears for you. Matt

    • @jknga5869
      @jknga5869 2 місяці тому

      Can I try to add a little perspective to this? I have been a Christian since 1988. I have seen many people who have been addicted to certain things be set free from their Addictions.
      When alcoholics come to Jesus, they have to repent of their sins, including alcohol, and live their life in a manner that glorifies Christ.
      Same thing with drugs, pornography, etc. A person can only live a life to honor Jesus through repentance of their sins.
      This is the same with people in the LGBTQ movement. Homosexuality is a sin against God, and the only way you can live a life to honor Jesus is to repent of your sins and peace that lifestyle.
      This has been done successfully. Jesus will give you the strength to do this if you choose to.
      I pray that the Holy Spirit will bring you to a place of wholeness in Jesus Christ

  • @goldenstar7400
    @goldenstar7400 2 роки тому +2

    I can see how someone that was raised in a cult could believe someone like him but how an intelligent adult that can think for themselves could believe anyone once it can be shown they are a lier totally escapes me.

  • @richard8daylim76
    @richard8daylim76 2 роки тому

    Kindly review Pastor Gino Jennings teachings.

  • @theemptyatom
    @theemptyatom Рік тому +1

    Are the red hardback books on the shelf, the Will Durant Story of Civilation series?

  • @merledesouza264
    @merledesouza264 2 місяці тому +1

    mr John judas walk with Juses but he was born a tratar check your self r u his brother

  • @juhanipitkakari5999
    @juhanipitkakari5999 2 роки тому +1

    He was a succesful conartist for decades, untill, in 1965, the Lord said: Enough!

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@juhanipitkakari5999 He was a successful prophet of God! His time was up and God took him that’s it and that’s all

    • @juhanipitkakari5999
      @juhanipitkakari5999 Місяць тому

      @@paulemongo1929 You are free to worship a dead man as much as you like.

  • @richard8daylim76
    @richard8daylim76 2 роки тому +1

    How do you explain the story Bro Branham says that a whirling fire came down when he was baptizing & the voice affirms that he is the one from Malachi 4.

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  2 роки тому +3

      Branham also says that the Associated Press picked up the story and it was printed in newspapers “plumb up into Canada.” Newspaper archives are now online and searchable. When you find one, let me know :)

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@LeavingtheMessage There were also witnesses there that confirmed it to be true

  • @technodan3083
    @technodan3083 2 роки тому +2

    Why was William Branham referred to as "Brother"? I think that's a little odd.

    • @LeavingtheMessage
      @LeavingtheMessage  2 роки тому +8

      Charles and his family only recently escaped from Branham's cult of personality. It's very common for escapees to use the phrase "Brother Branham" for a few years, simply due to having repeated it for decades. (It's out of habit, not out of respect)

    • @technodan3083
      @technodan3083 2 роки тому

      @@LeavingtheMessage OK, but if I were a former Catholic, I would hope I would be gently corrected if I referred to the pope as "his holiness". Other than that, I very much do appreciate all the work you have done, John. I've listened to you on Cultish and Longfortruth, and enjoyed all the discussions.

    • @lesliewells1062
      @lesliewells1062 2 роки тому +1

      @@LeavingtheMessage It's a really hard habit to break!! I called it the message, then went to Branhamism, which is actually a pretty awkward word, and I call WMB Brother Branham. Now I call it the cult. And if I have to say WMB's name, I say Wiliam Marvin Branham, which does gives me some satisfaction, because it exposes his lie about his own name, or I just call him Branham. But I have been out of the cult since 2004 and I was in each stage for years!! Literally. I would never condemn a former believer for what stage of what they call the cult or WMB is in at the moment.

    • @dutchman7777
      @dutchman7777 Рік тому

      Bro Branham IS God’s true & vindicated 7th Church Age Prophet Messenger! Like he said, the Message is ONLY for Believers, not unbelievers.

  • @mpinky777
    @mpinky777 2 роки тому +5

    I feel sorry for you x’ers. You got nowhere to go but down. The wonderful message that God gave us was not of man but from Jesus Christ. If only you could have endured until the end.

    • @josephtiyo
      @josephtiyo 2 роки тому

      Mike i hate this guy with all of my heart Christ let these people die and perish just like Jannes and Jambres

    • @Radicallambschannel
      @Radicallambschannel Рік тому +2

      If only you had the courage to seek the Truth. It would set you free.

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@Radicallambschannel He does have the truth but unfortunately it’s you who needs to seek the truth and to be set free.

  • @richard8daylim76
    @richard8daylim76 2 роки тому +1

    who is the 7th angel to the church?

    • @quintusgaius5477
      @quintusgaius5477 2 роки тому

      @@eagleeyes6642 read the Bible and you will see what God says about the 7th angel. LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @davidamik5134
      @davidamik5134 2 роки тому

      No one knows, and there are/were NO seven church AGES, except those that constructed such doctrines and those that believed that lie and called it their "Revelation".

    • @davidamik5134
      @davidamik5134 2 роки тому

      @RestoredToTruth Here Mr. RTT is your statement: " He will POINT to that which was in the original Gospel which Paul preached.
      The world has perverted the ORIGINAL Gospel, and caused them that perverted it to become accursed!"
      What Paul said about the gospel he received and preached was THAT " which in other ages was NOT MADE KNOWN unto the SONS of MEN,..." A SECRET ....NOT to Amos, not to Isaiah, Zechariah, Jerimiah, WB etc....The Lord Jesus Himself did not teach what He revealed to Paul to His Disciples in His earthly ministry, Where did even JTB speak about Christ Jesus to be the HEAD of The Body (Church).
      Did WB teach such doctrine? Did Apostle to the Gentiles Preach what WB taught to The Church, Body of Christ??
      One of the the many secrets Paul revealed: " And by him all that believe ARE justified from ALL things , FROM which ye COULD NOT be justified BY the law of Moses"....Now that is what GRACE does: by Him ALL that believe......NOT Make believe any perversion of Scripture!

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@richard8daylim76 William Marrion Branham

  • @HENRYMIDEKOTUTORIALS-sk3ep
    @HENRYMIDEKOTUTORIALS-sk3ep 11 місяців тому +1

    it does me no harm to believe bro Branham was God's prophet. I will continue believing because I get atmost spiritual satisfaction. have seen a lesbian who was excommunicated from the message comment by praising your work. that's wat makes me know the message is the truth and u and that lesbian u r all lost..

  • @displaying_reality
    @displaying_reality Рік тому

    I think you guys imagined a lot... It caused you to stumble upon a the rock which God placed. So shocked that you guys did not go through the books all these years. Instead of getting interviews and gaining knowledge from your sources if you would've asked God he would've guided you much better. This age is the age of information & science and you guys went through that channel. I am more inspired to hear the ordained voice for this age and see it in the bible.
    Stay where you guys are. Show down is coming soon.👍🏻

    • @jknga5869
      @jknga5869 Місяць тому

      You are right. The showdown is coming soon. If you are not saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, you will lose.

  • @truerevelationtoday5522
    @truerevelationtoday5522 2 роки тому +5

    Lets get one thing clear here
    William Branham is God's annointed prophet for this day and age
    When Jesus walked this earth, his very own people condemned him to the point of calling him "the chief of devils." and these people that condemned him were the scribes and pharisees of the day.
    The revelation of God's annointed one stood before them but they found every way to pull the crowd away from Jesus, but no matter what the critics said - the gospel still went on...
    The scribes and pharisees are the so called bible teachers of this day (preachers), people that was once in the faith and left the faith because of whaty "THEY" believe is true.
    Unfortunately
    You can have a million channels to discuss reasons as to why "YOU" feel William Branham is a False Prophet, you can lead thousands astray but there is two things i want to tell you
    1) No matter what you do - the Message of GOD's ONLY PROPHET / GOD's ELIJAH FOR THIS DAY will still go on and win souls for Christ - say what you want - study what you want - reveal your lies - the bible says that people such as yourselves will be given to seducing spirits where a spirit of delusion will fall upon you and you will believe your lies to be so true that you would damn your soul and go to hell...
    2) Your end is near - REPENT before its too late because if you condemn a prophet, your soul is damned - everyone that visits this channel please note the date that i said this to the person posting these things - this is THUS SAITH THE LORD - Mr, REPENT and mend your ways as your end is near....

    • @matthewcraig8926
      @matthewcraig8926 2 роки тому +1

      Did Elijah get involved with hateful groups in his day, like the KKK in modern time? Did Elijah extort people for money? Did Elijah lie about the place and time he was born? Did Elijah get his prophecies wrong? Show us Scripture that supports this. Because I can't find one. Our God is not a liar!
      You call Branham Elijah of this day. What Bible do you read? The so called Passion Translation??
      You tell these 2 to repent and mend your ways. For what? Telling you the truth?
      Before making judgement on people, calling them Pharasee, I encourage you to put down your pride and arrogance for just a minute, and to take a look in the mirror.

    • @truerevelationtoday5522
      @truerevelationtoday5522 2 роки тому +1

      @@matthewcraig8926 I want to recall your attention to the scriptures that says that the very prophet Elisha (that came under the spirit of Elijah) when innocent kids called him a baldy - he called for two bears to devour those kids ...why?? Because they came against a real man of God under the third pull ministry.... The same with today - the spirit of Elijah came to this world the fifth day on William Branham - you don't like it it doesn't make a difference the TRUTH WILL GO FORTH - like it or not/accept it or not BROTHER BRANHAM IS GOD'S MESSENGER FOR THIS DAY AND AGE - LET EVERY DEVIL HEAR THIS - WILLIAM BRANHAM IS GOD'S ELIJAH FOR THIS DAY - also note that what I say is THUS SAITH THE LORD - the person posing these videos against an annointed Prophet of God will come to an end - his end is near and when that happens(which is soon) you will know that William Branham is God's chosen
      TOO SAD IF YOU CANT ACCEPT TRUTH AND REALITY

    • @truerevelationtoday5522
      @truerevelationtoday5522 2 роки тому

      @@matthewcraig8926 WILLIAM BRANHAM NEVER MADE A MISTAKE IN ANY PROPHECY - THE BIBLE SAYS IF YOU WILL LOOK FOR ERRORS GOD WILL SEND A SPIRIT OF Delusion FO YOU TO STUMBLE IN YOUR FOLLY DAMN YOUR SOUL AND GO TO HELL !! becareful or you will soon find yourself where you don't want to be

    • @truerevelationtoday5522
      @truerevelationtoday5522 2 роки тому +2

      @@matthewcraig8926 oh and one more thing- show me one place where brother Branham took money from people???? YOU WILL NEVER FIND IT!! when people offered millions of rands he never accepted it - and if money was collected from his campaigns he gave it back to the people - he had to even borrow suits to preach so don't come here and think you know everything when you know nothing

    • @matthewcraig8926
      @matthewcraig8926 2 роки тому

      @@truerevelationtoday5522 I prefer the Truth of Jesus Christ over the lies of William Branham. I prefer the Word of God over the lips of man, especially when it comes to a false prophet who has been PROVEN False!. It is very evident which god, or gods you've chosen to serve. Branham did extort people for money, particularly towards the end of his ministry. Look at the facts. Get out of the mind control that has been placed over you. God does not want that in your life.
      Oh, and you only addressed one part of my original response to you. What do you think about the other things, regarding Branhams KKK ties, his lies about where he was from and when he was born, his prophecies that proved wrong.?? How can you even compare this man to Elijah?

  • @karens.strickland9634
    @karens.strickland9634 9 місяців тому

    Please tell me. When he preached that God took him to paradise and he saw his 1st wife and daughter. He said everything you ever loved and everything that has ever loved you will be in paradise with you. Not teue huh?

    • @paulemongo1929
      @paulemongo1929 Місяць тому

      @@karens.strickland9634 Are you for or against the message?

  • @ezekieltimothy421
    @ezekieltimothy421 Рік тому

    150 They made many mistakes. The newspaper’s write-up here, not long ago, in McCrall, or, McCall’s, when that man threatened my meeting up there at Minneapolis, some of them, Mr. Peterson and them, come telling me that he was in the meeting. I said, “No doubt at all. But you never searched your articles right. You said A. A. Allen wrote that book. And A. A. Allen had nothing to do with it. Then, if that was such a mistake, I believe the rest of it is a lot of mistake.” I said, “Truly, the brethren might deserve a lot of criticism. They made many mistakes. That’s all right. But, brother, I’d rather be found on the battlefield, making mistakes, than to be a criticizer of the man that’s trying to get souls saved to God.” What are you doing about it?
    57-0407E - Then Jesus Came
    Rev. William Marrion Branham

  • @yonniq713
    @yonniq713 10 місяців тому

    I have been listening for almost 20 mins and not heard any real arguments.
    All am hearing is how church folk did you bad. But this is the nature of church folk...it happens in all churches.
    And yes, there are cults that came out of it...remember people wanted to worship paul and barnabas?
    I would rather you address his message with real arguments. I dont think we will say the Apostles were a cult because some believers make grave images of them after their death?

  • @truerealist757
    @truerealist757 2 роки тому +3

    Too much rambling. Just get to the topic right from the get go.

    • @truerealist757
      @truerealist757 2 роки тому +1

      @RestoredToTruth I dont think he is a babbler...And I really did not say it to be mean. I just prefer a more direct and businesslike delivery.
      William Branham is a false prophet and I think the work they are doing is bold and needed. I was a message believer once and I tell you that message puts God a million miles away from both God and reality.
      May message people wake up and believe the Gospel not William Branham lies.

    • @truerealist757
      @truerealist757 2 роки тому +1

      @RestoredToTruth I try my best to follow a humble spirit as I was taught by our Lord. Listen online friend or bro/sis once you have faith towards Jesus. I loved this message. I devoured this message with my body, soul and mind. I was young and zealous...but as I read I saw inconsistencies in this message that would blow your mind long before this gentle bro, here started to speak out. The sad thing is you will always notice these errors but since you think you are a christian BECAUSE of the message you naturally try to explain the errors away.
      Let me give you a very simple one that should make us run out WMB as a deceiver.
      He said that for a man to be a PASTOR/ELDER he must marry a virgin. Now where did WMB get this idea? When one looks for the qualifications where does one go? Look diligently do you see listed there any demands for an elder to have a virgin wife? Now what does the word say about those who seek to add or take away? Or what does Paul say about anyone who does not think his words are from God and complete as they were given? Or what does Paul say about saying differently from what was originally taught.
      God cannot have one standard for Balaam and another for Moses. Did we not see that although Moses was the genuine prophet once he violated God's word judgement struck him? Did God make excuses for any prophet's sin or disobedience? If no, then why are you teaching men to believe a lie. Or why are you telling us that God brings truth out of error. Or that God makes keepers of the word out of those who follow those who break the work? How do you read your bible? Is there sin in God? Are his servants the ministers of sin?
      Listen, I am soooooooooo happy I am free from Branham's mind control cult and I thank God for all who are exposing this evil thing. This golden calf scheme.

    • @davidamik5134
      @davidamik5134 2 роки тому

      ​@RestoredToTruth "Therefore, they are used as the representatives of God for the people, that they are ministering to. Paul laid the foundation, WMB carried it out."
      You quoted what Paul said to only use as support for your thought, to give?it some validity?..If you believed what Paul said you will discard your beliefs about who WB used for the Ephesus "messenger" in his "exposition of the seven church AGES"
      Paul's gospel is from the risen and ascended Lord Jesus Christ. REVELATION of "THE DISPESATION OF THE GRACE OF GOD" to Paul alone. (Eph 3: 2) If WB and his ministers "carried" out as you state, what Paul said he received and preached, why do they attempt to corrupt Paul's GOSPEL? . Example: John (one of the twelve) in Rev 2) mentioned "Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write..." WB,his ministers after him run with his "revelation" that Paul was "that angel to Ephesus. Granted there is alot in the book of Revelations and in this portion we are addressing... we can start with a question? Why would Paul after he said what he said in his letters and epistles, RETURN to Judaism? (Acts 13:39) against what he said in his letters to Galatian and Hebrew Saints.?Why do msg ministers dwell in O.T. types and shadows as does wb? When Paul said his revelation and what he said he preached were secrets?( unsearchable riches ..not found in prophets)
      If you read Paul, and believe what he is saying to "youward" you would endeavor " to make ALL men see what is the fellowship (not division) of the mystery (secret), which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God,.."

    • @davidamik5134
      @davidamik5134 2 роки тому

      @RestoredToTruth Bless your understanding... of the quotes of scripture you submit to your fellow believers...pro or con.

    • @davidamik5134
      @davidamik5134 2 роки тому

      @RestoredToTruth Also scripture clearly ( in its context) refutes WB's doctrine(s).

  • @Royaleagle-qi5xc
    @Royaleagle-qi5xc 10 місяців тому

    These six things doth the LORD hate: yea seven are an abomination unto Him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A FALSE WITNESS THAT SPEAKETH LIES, AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BERTHREN. Prov 6: 16-19.
    As the saying goes, let God be the judge. Personally I think these people on the so call "Leaving the Message" channel, what they are doing is nothing but foolishness and adding more nails to their own coffin.
    I've been in this "Message" for almost 50 years, I don't say I've listen to all of the messages preached by W. Branham, and by God's Grace I don't think either it has transformed me becoming a legalistic nor I've been a religious fanatic which you guys try to classify us as "branhamite" a cult so to speak, this I thank God Almighty The LORD Jesus Christ. By the same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead, I like to say one thing here, for who is speaking lies and who has other ulterior motive on all these things here is clear to see; My Spirit have more confidence with the Spirit of W. Branham and his teaching than all of your guys put together and trying to do; when you try to justify your spirit of unbelieve, the only thing you do is by bad mouth the "Message" and the man. You're deceiving yourself and not us.
    One time Jesus mentioned about Judas , "Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?" John 6: 70 See? Judas was ordained to do what he was suppose to do and that is to betray Jesus, and He even said to him go and do what he was "ordain" to do quickly! (John 13: 27). Therefore, you guys who started this channel, of course you couldn't help it but can only do the likewise Judas did as he was "ordain" to do, he betrayed the man and you betray the WORD, to me same spirit only in different persons.

  • @ngonidzaishem1607
    @ngonidzaishem1607 Рік тому

    A whole podcasts of biased information.... Your work is not from God go start your own ministry.. Heal the sick show the power of God like Brother Brahman did

  • @theemptyatom
    @theemptyatom Рік тому

    he died in 1965 not 1967

    • @Charles-Paisley
      @Charles-Paisley Рік тому +2

      Right, and after he died, in 1967, my family left the tabernacle and began attending Raymond Jackson's church.

  • @stevewhitlow8474
    @stevewhitlow8474 2 роки тому

    why do he say branham pass away in 1967 he pass in 1965 this guy is a liear just like branham

    • @jackinthebox53
      @jackinthebox53 Рік тому

      He didn't say he died in 1967, He said his family left in 1967, after he died.

  • @nannyann65
    @nannyann65 9 місяців тому +1

    Bro John that is exactly what my sister n law Cindy Roberts has done to her oldest child. That child cries for her mama everyday. How can anyone be so cruel. What in all that is Holy was we in? I’m scared and worried.