Hello, #conqueringfinale. I've a qstn about the Tuplet Tool on Finale 2014 and 26. I'm currently using principles of numerical-rhythmic proportion, presented at different structural levels of complex durations for composing. As I have said, I want to apply these principles, making subdivision of values, at different levels of structuring and complexity of the same rhythmic figure(s). My qstn focuses on the digitized notation to some musical situations, around the use of Tuplet Definition Tool, selecting the option NUMBER (X: Y or X : Yq or Xq: Yq). I want to apply any type of desired proportion (5: 6; 13:10; 11:10, etc.), taking the value of x-duration (quarter notes, eighth notes, etc.) in the y-space (quarter notes, eighth notes, etc.) will give me any flexible rhythmic form. So far, finale allows me to make any type of configuration desired in the metric, applied to a layer. What is inconvenient for me and I would like to know is how to solve it when I want to apply a new ratio to a figure or group of rhythmic figures that have already been proportionated (example: 7:5 and taking some part and subdividing again in 6:4). I have tried, in principle, to apply the ratio 7:5 to a layer 1 (divided in three halfdotted notes) and later apply the new subdivision of 6:4 (to one or two of the half dotted notes to a layer 2), but unfortunately the result is not as expected. Grettings, Andrés;
If I’m understanding the circumstances of your question correctly, you’re trying to create nested Tuplets divided between Layers 1 and 2. If the tuplet within the tuplet exists only in Layer 2 you wouldn’t be able to do that without also creating the primary, larger tuplet somehow in Layer 2 as well as Layer 1. My suggestion would be to create the larger outer tuplet in Layer 1 as you need to. Then in Layer 2 create the larger outer tuplet using rests which you can hide later, then create the nested tuplet in Layer 2 where you need it and finish out the primary outer tuplet with hidden rests. Rhythmically Finale treats each layer uniquely so it wouldn’t be able to put the inner tuplet in the correct spot in Layer 2 without understanding where it would start in relation to the outer tuplet. Hopefully I understood the problem and hopefully this answers it!
In Speedy Entry: define the triplet, add the first quarter note and then add a half note. In Simple Entry: add the first quarter note, define the triplet and then add a half note. That's all there is to it.
It does not work when entering on beat 3 and 4. Ihave a tuplet on beat 1 and 2 and a tuplet on beat 3 and 4 when I enter the second tuplet I am unable to place the hallf note.
@@bernsaxman Hmmm. It definitely works in Speedy Entry. In Simple Entry, I see the problem. It does not allow you to enter that last half note. Seems like a bug to me. The workaround is to instead of using 9 to define the triplet, press Opt-9 (alt-9 on Windows) to pull up the custom tuplet definition box. Choose 3 quarter notes in the space of 2 quarter notes instead of 3 "use current" in the space of 2 "use current". That solves the problem and allows you to enter that last half note at the end of the bar. Weird. I'd say it's a bug though for sure.
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Hello, #conqueringfinale. I've a qstn about the Tuplet Tool on Finale 2014 and
26. I'm currently using principles of numerical-rhythmic proportion,
presented at different structural levels of complex durations for
composing. As I have said, I want to apply these principles, making
subdivision of values, at different levels of structuring and complexity
of the same rhythmic figure(s). My qstn focuses on the digitized
notation to some musical situations, around the use of Tuplet Definition
Tool, selecting the option NUMBER (X: Y or X : Yq or Xq: Yq).
I want to apply any type of desired proportion (5: 6; 13:10; 11:10, etc.), taking
the value of x-duration (quarter notes, eighth notes, etc.) in the
y-space (quarter notes, eighth notes, etc.) will give me any flexible
rhythmic form. So far, finale allows me to make any type of
configuration desired in the metric, applied to a layer. What is
inconvenient for me and I would like to know is how to solve it when I
want to apply a new ratio to a figure or group of rhythmic figures that
have already been proportionated (example: 7:5 and taking some part and
subdividing again in 6:4).
I have tried, in principle, to apply the ratio 7:5
to a layer 1 (divided in three halfdotted notes) and later apply the
new subdivision of 6:4 (to one or two of the half dotted notes to a
layer 2), but unfortunately the result is not as expected.
Grettings,
Andrés;
If I’m understanding the circumstances of your question correctly, you’re trying to create nested Tuplets divided between Layers 1 and 2. If the tuplet within the tuplet exists only in Layer 2 you wouldn’t be able to do that without also creating the primary, larger tuplet somehow in Layer 2 as well as Layer 1. My suggestion would be to create the larger outer tuplet in Layer 1 as you need to. Then in Layer 2 create the larger outer tuplet using rests which you can hide later, then create the nested tuplet in Layer 2 where you need it and finish out the primary outer tuplet with hidden rests. Rhythmically Finale treats each layer uniquely so it wouldn’t be able to put the inner tuplet in the correct spot in Layer 2 without understanding where it would start in relation to the outer tuplet. Hopefully I understood the problem and hopefully this answers it!
Hello, I want to display a quarter note triplet with one quarter and one half note how can it be done?
In Speedy Entry: define the triplet, add the first quarter note and then add a half note.
In Simple Entry: add the first quarter note, define the triplet and then add a half note.
That's all there is to it.
It does not work when entering on beat 3 and 4. Ihave a tuplet on beat 1 and 2 and a tuplet on beat 3 and 4 when I enter the second tuplet I am unable to place the hallf note.
@@bernsaxman Hmmm. It definitely works in Speedy Entry. In Simple Entry, I see the problem. It does not allow you to enter that last half note. Seems like a bug to me. The workaround is to instead of using 9 to define the triplet, press Opt-9 (alt-9 on Windows) to pull up the custom tuplet definition box. Choose 3 quarter notes in the space of 2 quarter notes instead of 3 "use current" in the space of 2 "use current". That solves the problem and allows you to enter that last half note at the end of the bar. Weird. I'd say it's a bug though for sure.