Stieb deserves to be in the hall of fame, I guarantee you if he played for the Yankees, royals or any other team that had success in the 80s he’d be a hall of famer
Saberhagen did and had very similar career numbers, but he’s also not in the hall. It seems like very few of the best pitchers from the 80s got any love from the voters.
agreed, jays players get alot of bias on the ballot Mcgriff, Alomar not being a first balloter and Tony Fernández whos stats are VERY similar ozzie smith are all prime examples. He was 2 pitches away from being a hall of famer, because a pitcher with his stats and 3 no-no's is hard to deny a hof spot for. all though he should have been in the hof anyway, regardless if he did not throw the extra no-hitters, he was just so good.
“If he played for the Royals he’d be in the hall of fame” Is the most nonsensical baseball statement I’ve ever read. 80’s success or not national media and the BBWAA has always ignored the royals
Stieb doesn't get the love he deserves for being a dominant pitcher in the 80s. Probably because they never won anything. How ironic that the best hit ball of the bunch was the one that got him the no hitter
1990, the year I fell in love with baseball as an 11 year old. Yeah, I'm old. That division race was amazing, came down to the last day of the season. My Red Sox won it on a sliding catch by Tom Brunansky in the right field corner, hit by Ozzie Guillen with the White Sox. Jeff Reardon with the save, also was the rookie year of Frank Thomas. God I love baseball.
I don't even think playing for the Yankees would help him, just look at David Cone. There is just this strange blind spot when it comes to 1980's and 1990's players for some reason, especially pitchers.
Amazing, lead the al in innings pitched, finished the 80s the the 13th best era+ (peaking with an absurd era+ of 171 in 1985) while pitching all those innings. That 1985 season he pitched 265 innings! For comparison's sake Cole lead the AL with a 185 ERA+ but only with 212 innings pitched! Those 212 innings pitched is most Cole has pitched in his career. Between 1980 and 1985 Dave Steib only pitched once less than 212 innings. He pitched 242, 185, 288 (leading the league), 278, 267 (again leading the league) and finally 260 innings pitched. And yet he only got 1.4% voting when he's name came up on the ballot. Disgraceful. I dunno if he did enough to make the hall (his advanced stats are impressive; 9 seasons in the 80s he was top ten in WHIP); but the fact that he only got 1.4% says how little the Hall knows about baseball history.
In your opinion maybe was unluckiest, no disrespect meant. Imo Stieb is the greatest Blue Jay pitcher. Sure Halliday was great, and statistically I couldn't tell you off the top of my head who was better? I could Google and act all that, but I'm not. Some might say 85 Jays was their best team ever? It was awesome, first time Blue Jays pennant fever! You had to have been there back in 85. Like careers ago...
Since you just did this video on a pitcher who lost a no hitter in the ninth two games in a row, maybe you could do a video talking about the pitcher who threw no hitters in back to back starts?
Dude look at ziggy palffy for a potential hall of fame video. Guy is criminally underrated and still lit up the scoreboard playing for some really crappy teams.
No Cy Young awards, only 1 ERA title, never led the league in strikeouts (only about 5 K’s per 9 innings), less than 200 career wins. He did lead the league in HBP more than a few times, though. Career WAR is borderline at best. Does that sound like a HOF career? I’m just playing. He was consistently one of the best pitchers during the 80s. If Jack Morris belongs, so does Stieb.
losing a no hitter on a freak hop like that?!?!? are you for real 😤😤 edit: way too premature, i meant to say, losing back to back no hitters on a crazy hop off the lip and then a GOTdamn texas leaguer
I remember watching him pitch growing up. He wasn't a Hall of Famer, but a damm good pitcher. He got to play MLB for a long time, had a great career. I'm not feeling bad for him. Of all the people in the world to think about how their life was ruined b/c of bad luck or something, Dave Stieb is not on the list.
Stieb deserves to be in the hall of fame, I guarantee you if he played for the Yankees, royals or any other team that had success in the 80s he’d be a hall of famer
Hell yes!
Saberhagen did and had very similar career numbers, but he’s also not in the hall. It seems like very few of the best pitchers from the 80s got any love from the voters.
agreed, jays players get alot of bias on the ballot Mcgriff, Alomar not being a first balloter and Tony Fernández
whos stats are VERY similar ozzie smith are all prime examples. He was 2 pitches away from being a hall of famer, because a pitcher with his stats and 3 no-no's is hard to deny a hof spot for. all though he should have been in the hof anyway, regardless if he did not throw the extra no-hitters, he was just so good.
Royals? You know Brett is the ONLY Royal in the hall Of Fame, right? Not exactly over-represented.
“If he played for the Royals he’d be in the hall of fame”
Is the most nonsensical baseball statement I’ve ever read. 80’s success or not national media and the BBWAA has always ignored the royals
People forget how dominant prime Dave Stieb was. We're talking Randy Johnson or Pedro Martinez type dominant. At his peak he was virtually unhittable.
Stieb doesn't get the love he deserves for being a dominant pitcher in the 80s. Probably because they never won anything. How ironic that the best hit ball of the bunch was the one that got him the no hitter
Don Clark yep, blew a 3-1 lead
@Don Clark well i was thinking no WS appearances at least
@Don Clark All I remember from that series is, are the Bret(t)s.
Well put.
He was part of the 1992 Jays that won the world series; although he never pitched in the playoffs. He was the fifth starter that season for the Jays.
At the end I was waiting for him to say 'welcome to a moment in history'
Hey thanks for giving the spotlight to a very underappreciated star - awesome!
It is a good day when sports storm posts!!! I look forward to these so much
You know they're good videos when they make you feel something
Dave Stieb should be in the HOF and its a shame he never will
He could get in through the veterans committee
@@dfgccgggff7963 If harold baines can make it with a war of 39 then Stieb should make it
Jon Bois is gonna get him there! mwuhahahaha! They already did it for Larry Walker! the Era committee awaits!
These are legit some of my favorite baseball videos around, keep it up!
Haven't even watched the video and I already know this is Dave Stieb
1990, the year I fell in love with baseball as an 11 year old. Yeah, I'm old. That division race was amazing, came down to the last day of the season. My Red Sox won it on a sliding catch by Tom Brunansky in the right field corner, hit by Ozzie Guillen with the White Sox. Jeff Reardon with the save, also was the rookie year of Frank Thomas. God I love baseball.
But yeah, Steib was Toronto's ace for nearly a decade, he was a hell of a pitcher.
Dave Stieb! I actually know this off the top of my head!
Great video, thanks for featuring my Jays! Stieb was definitely one of the best pitchers of the 80’s, so glad he finally got that no-no
*Sees title*
Ah, good ol’ Dave Steib, is it?
As a Yankee fan growing up in the 80s and early 90s, Stieb dominated the Yankees during this period. A legit ace and should be in the HOF.
Good job UA-cam Algorithm, pointing me here right after finishing Dorktown's documentary series on Stieb. Everyone go watch that.
Still was the greatest Bluejays pitcher Ever. The Doc is a close second
You're famous now! Jon Bois did a video on your topic! Celebrate!
I’m glad this story had a happy ending 😊
Your SRS videos brought me here! Great channel, great content!
Best pitcher of the 80s. Definitely should be in the Hall. If Jack Morris or Bert Blyleven are in the Hall, Stieb should be there too.
Man Steib had NO luck! Very informative video! Glad he finally got that no-no! I would've preferred the perfect game myself though!
Thanks SB for introducing me to this legendary player.
Love Steib, one of the most underrated pitchers of his era! actually covered his misfortunes a few months ago
Stieb! Already knew this thanks to Jon bois
My favourite video…well done …can you show more bluejays videos please
Here before dork town blows this up
I was so happy for him!
This guy was SO close to matching the GOAT Sandy Koufax...Never heard of him, but I bloody well know and respect him now!
inb4 jon bois. good work.
I wish we didn’t only retire Hall of Famers numbers because Stieb’s number should no doubt be retired by the Blue Jays
Great video!
Thanks!
If Stieb played for the Yankees or Royals, he’d be the Hall of Fame
Instead, he played his prime on some hard luck teams in a foreign country
Why the Royals?
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They were good back then, the model franchise of the day
@@warlordofbritannia ahh
I don't even think playing for the Yankees would help him, just look at David Cone. There is just this strange blind spot when it comes to 1980's and 1990's players for some reason, especially pitchers.
I can't remember if it was Key or Stieb, but I saw one of them get shelled in Boston. It was odd, since they were both really solid pitchers.
Please make more videos like this.
Pain
I swear I see you on every video I watch
Amazing, lead the al in innings pitched, finished the 80s the the 13th best era+ (peaking with an absurd era+ of 171 in 1985) while pitching all those innings. That 1985 season he pitched 265 innings! For comparison's sake Cole lead the AL with a 185 ERA+ but only with 212 innings pitched! Those 212 innings pitched is most Cole has pitched in his career. Between 1980 and 1985 Dave Steib only pitched once less than 212 innings. He pitched 242, 185, 288 (leading the league), 278, 267 (again leading the league) and finally 260 innings pitched.
And yet he only got 1.4% voting when he's name came up on the ballot. Disgraceful. I dunno if he did enough to make the hall (his advanced stats are impressive; 9 seasons in the 80s he was top ten in WHIP); but the fact that he only got 1.4% says how little the Hall knows about baseball history.
At least he got his no hitter in the end.... And he was Tha main character in Magnum
I have a Stieb jersey on my wall :)
You can say unluckiest pitcher but those were 2 rare and incredible back to back starts from a ML pitcher.
Just by looking at the title, I knew it was about Dave Stieb lol
In your opinion maybe was unluckiest, no disrespect meant. Imo Stieb is the greatest Blue Jay pitcher. Sure Halliday was great, and statistically I couldn't tell you off the top of my head who was better? I could Google and act all that, but I'm not. Some might say 85 Jays was their best team ever? It was awesome, first time Blue Jays pennant fever! You had to have been there back in 85. Like careers ago...
Since you just did this video on a pitcher who lost a no hitter in the ninth two games in a row, maybe you could do a video talking about the pitcher who threw no hitters in back to back starts?
Dude look at ziggy palffy for a potential hall of fame video. Guy is criminally underrated and still lit up the scoreboard playing for some really crappy teams.
Stieb the goat
Bro dont u also do the company man yt channel?
good job on the pronunciation
You should talk about the man who did the opposite of this. Johnny Vander Meer, the man who pitched no hitters in back to back starts.
Preintegration stats are trash. Such a watered down league.
Dave Stieb was a Hall of Famer, change my mind. You can't.
he def was
No Cy Young awards, only 1 ERA title, never led the league in strikeouts (only about 5 K’s per 9 innings), less than 200 career wins. He did lead the league in HBP more than a few times, though. Career WAR is borderline at best. Does that sound like a HOF career? I’m just playing. He was consistently one of the best pitchers during the 80s. If Jack Morris belongs, so does Stieb.
@@vindog2461 Highest pitching WAR in the 80's. Deserves the HOF. Borderline case but if I had a vote I would give him the nod...
@@ManCub25 I would too, especially since Morris is in. There are several others more deserving than Morris in that era as well.
Dave Stieb is the Buffalo Bills of the baseball world.
Dorktown: brb, gone cooking...
wow
That would suck losing a no no in the 9th inning.
Stieb had some NASTY, NASTY, STUFF.....
Candy Maldonado sounds me a Venezuelan strippers name
How is he not a hall of famer?
losing a no hitter on a freak hop like that?!?!? are you for real 😤😤
edit: way too premature, i meant to say, losing back to back no hitters on a crazy hop off the lip and then a GOTdamn texas leaguer
So I looked up his stats and idk how he’s not a hof
should be in cooperstown was great
The real bad luck brian
I thought Dickey had a No-Hitter for the Jays
@@sandyc7250 As well as Marco Estrada getting close a few times
Hi
SPOILER ALERT: I'm glad this had a happy ending
I remember watching him pitch growing up. He wasn't a Hall of Famer, but a damm good pitcher. He got to play MLB for a long time, had a great career.
I'm not feeling bad for him. Of all the people in the world to think about how their life was ruined b/c of bad luck or something, Dave Stieb is not on the list.
7:01 You don’t know what the hell you’re doing!
I think you really enjoy saying the name “Stieb”.
Does anyone else have hundreds of Dave stieb cards lol
Unluckier than the guy whose arm fell off?
I always belive that baseball is somehow a game of luck
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13th comment.
I'm gonna guess Anibal Sanchez.
Good video, but you need to learn how to use pronouns. If I had a dollar for every time you said "Stieb", I could retire.
Love your content, but you sound like a guy with a lot of questions.