1:14 - 1:59 There it is. Liam had feelings for Steffy. He couldn't stop thinking about her and he clearly felt guilty for having those feelings because he was with Hope.
@tiffani7352 No that's not true Hope and Liam meets first Hope helps Liam found his father Bill she turned her obsession with Liam full force and knowing that Hope and Liam are dating but that didn't stop her and she is no better than Brooke when she accused Brooke of doing to get what she wants
@jenniferprioleau1786 The very 1st episode of Liam in B&B, Steffy introduced him as a computer tech guy and he was helping her with her laptop. So Steffy did meet Liam 1st
17:15 Liam was so irritated by Bill comment. He looked almost jealous. Lolol. Liam was trying soooooo hard to suppress his feelings for Steffy. He should have been honest to Hope and Steffy from the start.
2021 Steffy is married to Sheila's son Finn, Liam knows that he is Hayes papa but keeps it to himself, still has massive deep feelings for Steffy and now wants to spend more time in the Cliffhouse with Steffy and his children because he doesn't trust Finn !!!
it shows liam was falling for Steffy and that's why he asked Hope to marry him pot of the blue He was afraid of his own feelings especially as Steffy had been Bills lover
Mandy Rayner... at this stage Bill and Steffy had not consummated their relationship... lots of kissing and fondling but no intercourse.... not until many years later after Bill had LOL... schtupped BrHooker a thousand times.
I like how Steffy got Liam to admit that he was feeling the same way she was feeling before she made a move on him. It was kind of like he gave her permission to kiss him
You know, in a weird way, you kind of gotta respect Steffy for the fact she did not hide her feelings from Hope. She stepped to her like a woman and gave her a heads up about her intentions.
That was not conviction..she admitted to the psychiatrist that it was a defense mechanism due to the trauma her mother put her through..later on she even said to Ally that she was extreme and did some growing up (concerning sex and stuff)
@@linorafreeman6234 I don't think waiting until marriage was a bad thing. And while dealing with Brooke's scandals were harmful, to me what really messed Hope up was her mother pushing her to go against her convictions and chase a married man and have sex with a married man. Brooke took Hope to the psychiatrist not to help Hope grow as a person but as Brooke said, "to make it right for Liam." And Brooke was pushing Hope to have sex with Liam not for love and connection and Hope's desires but "to take the wife's power." That's just sick. That poor girl was taking pills followed by booze to stomach having sex with a married man. And she was torn for being a hypocrite to boot. Hope was working on dealing with the first Steam marriage and would have been better off but Brooke and Katie pushed her.
Lol I just love the boldness of Steffy. When someone has something she wants, she gets right in that person's face and basically says "You have something I want and I'm going to take it from you"
Lol Steffy is slick. Shes not saying "I have feelings for you" or "Im attracted to you". She's saying its him. Shes making it look like hes the one that's coming on to her when its the other way around. Subtle manipulation tactic
So this episode here proves that Liam became interested in Steffy. Even though he knew that his father had a thing with her. Even though his father told him to stay away from Steffy and focus on Hope. It doesnt matter what Steffy did or how forceful she was. Liam had developed something for her and people need to accept that. Logan fans judge Steffy so much for getting with Bill in later episodes but they dont judge Liam here for looking at Steffy in a lustful way after witnessing her relationship with his father. Liam needed and wanted a woman but he tried hard to stay with Hope. Hope was trying so hard not to be like the other Logan women that she lost her true self in the process.
Oh absolutely. Liam became attracted to Steffy after the bathtub incident and Steffy knew it. Liam tried to deny it, that's why he quickly proposed to Hope after this episode cause Liam was scared of his feelings for Steffy. Liam should have known tho that a proposal wasn't gonna stop Steffy lol. I mean she went after Bill and he was actually married
I'm a steffy fan, she has grown so much, but, hope should have stand by your choice, u are not being a freak. U should be proud of your decision. Sadly u didn't live up to your convictions.
Steffy really set herself up to be in a love triangle from the very beginning. She just wanted to steamroll her way into his life and WIN him no matter by what means..no matter how he felt about hope..Liam was so weak so he gave in but never really took to time to get hope out his system of steffy is who he really wanted
How Steffy seduces a man in a relationship: Plants seeds of doubt in the man's partner and then presents herself as the better alternative. Then, take advantage of any problems the man and his partner have in their relationship and then relentlessly pursue him until he finally gives in lol
I really want viewers to go back and watch this season!! Steffy met Liam first! Hope was in love with Oliver when Liam hit the scene! Steffy didn’t manipulate Liam, she prevented Hope from getting to him, but she made her intentions known from the beginning! NO ONE knew Liam would propose to Steffy after Hope dumped him! NO ONE made Liam say yes on that mountain top!! And HOPE, that house wasn’t purchased for you, it was purchased for Amber and her baby!! The same things you accuse a Steffy of, are the EXACT same things your mother has done! So Steffy saw what worked for Brooke and took notes 🤷🏽♀️
While it's true Steffy did meet Liam first, she didn't show him any romantic interest first. She didn't even look at Liam that way until she found out he liked Hope and when he became a Spencer
Actually, it's not lust nor feelings Steffy has for Liam. It's about her using him and her body to keep him under control as a toy to attack and hurt Hope. Look what that two-face Hopeless have done! Liam has became damage goods and caught up in the real Logan vs Forrester war all because of Hope!
Yes I do admire Steffy. Her love for Liam began because of her resentment of the Logan girls but I saw pure mature love for Liam as they were together much deeper than what Hope had for Liam.
Im sure that played a part of it but eventually it stop being about beating The Logans. She genuinely loved the guy and all she wanted was for him to love her the same way
he believed what Bill said and the logans about Steffy thats why Liam asked Hope to get engaged he thinks her as some kind of devine angel victim Its laughable really
I love watching these old episodes and comparing it how the relationship and characters developed. Steffy - she was spoilt and went after a guy in a relationship, she made some mistakes (as Hopeless likes to remind us about the Gondola even in 2020) but she has become Liam’s friend first and up most and is his best friend until now... she has changed, she has grown she has learned from her mistakes and blossomed into an independent inspiring woman who is raising a daughter in the best way possible.... while still supporting the love of her life even though he isn’t with her. Liam - still loves two woman and waffles between them, still afraid to actually go after what he wants instead being manipulated and bullied into a relationship he doesn’t really want to be in by reminding of this promise to Hopeless a decade ago. He is a good father to Beth, but he seems to easily forget about Kelly (which angers the hell out of me) whilst still being secretly in love with Steffy but having no balls to go after her and Hopeless might have another breakdown... Hopeless - the most despised, boring, spoilt, entitled double standards character which is painful to watch and should be written off.....
marcia Ferguson I know... in last 2 years Liam who I used to adore and who I wanted for Steffy disappeared into the abyss of Logans’ mansion of intrigues, lying, manipulative behaviour and double standards. It’s like they took his soul and replaced it with this wishy-washy lame version... the Liam he is now isn’t good enough for Steffy. I think if/when Steam reunites, the first thing needs to happen is for Liam get rid of that whiney little girl who is the most disgusting character on tv I have ever seen. Only then he can be free to find himself and to start fighting for his Steffy and Kelly. But in the meantime, I think Bell should step up the game and give Steffy a man who truly cherishes her and Kelly and who shows Liam what he can lose.
@@zuzanavystrcilova7001 I really love this comment 👍👍👍 Steffy is the ONLY one that actually grew up n owned her shortcomings n corrected them, now she moved on to a man who loves her n her daughter with his whole heart....Hope is still stuck in the Gondola married to a man whose secretly still in love with his Ex-wife 😂 😂 😂 😂 Hopeless will never have Liam's whole heart
liam asked was Steffy just getting at his dad so already his feelings were growing but he gets engaged to Hope because hes scared and I expect of his dad too
So because Steffy would sleep with him and Hope would rather wait until marriage not actually not fall into a parents bad choices that makes her the wrong woman? Massimo said it best about the Forresters and relationships.
Steffy is so cruel... Sex is not everything and Hope is respecting herself and waiting there is nothing wrong with that. Loving someone is deeper than the physical And for someone how always want to call out Brooke your acting a lot like the woman you “say”Brooke is ... she is a hypocrite smh
Wow I used to say if Liam can’t wait for sex then he’s not worthy but now realising that Hope has been leading him around but the ‘nose’ for almost 2 YEARS… no wonder Steffy was able to get under his skin and he had to propose to the virgin to get the ball rolling 😂😂😂😂😂 so to speak.
Its liams fault no women can steal anothers women's man if the man dont let them liam should have completely stayed away from steffy . Yeah steffy should not have went after him but liam let it happen the women always get the blame in this show bout time the men got held accountable.
1:14 - 1:59 There it is. Liam had feelings for Steffy. He couldn't stop thinking about her and he clearly felt guilty for having those feelings because he was with Hope.
I hadn't before noticed Liam trying to cover the picture of Steffy he was looking at after she walked in (13:20) 😂So funny. Love them together.
Lol I love that too. And I love how she saw it anyway and teased him
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Yes, sooo good.
This is to cute she makes him nervous
I miss Marcus💪💪 and Dayzee🌼. They were so good together 🥰😍.
Steffy will only be doing what Brook has done in her past ! Liam is not saying no to Steffy!
Yass..... I love this comment ❤. So accurate 🤣
Liam knew Steffy first before Hope.
How?
Steffy met Liam first. He worked on her laptop & was friends with her before he met Hopeless!
@@tiffani7352 oh ok... i missed that part.
@tiffani7352 No that's not true Hope and Liam meets first Hope helps Liam found his father Bill she turned her obsession with Liam full force and knowing that Hope and Liam are dating but that didn't stop her and she is no better than Brooke when she accused Brooke of doing to get what she wants
@jenniferprioleau1786 The very 1st episode of Liam in B&B, Steffy introduced him as a computer tech guy and he was helping her with her laptop. So Steffy did meet Liam 1st
Lol Liam proposed to Hope out of nowhere after this cause he was terrified of his growing attraction to Steffy
LMAO Liam was a goner after ONE kiss!! Talk about Chemistry!! 😍
I think if he was laying the pipe to hope it wouldn't have mattered
Oh hell yeah
@@avataz exactly 💯
@@avataz I think so too. Considering Steffy was butt naked when being rescued 🔥🤣🤣🤣 Hope was right to worry
It was called SEDUCTION since Hope was STILL a Virgin ....LOL Only way STEFFY EVER got a man back then you can't rewrite history of the show
17:15 Liam was so irritated by Bill comment. He looked almost jealous. Lolol. Liam was trying soooooo hard to suppress his feelings for Steffy. He should have been honest to Hope and Steffy from the start.
Liam thought it was just a little crush that would go away in time. He underestimated his own feelings
Liam should have broken up with Hope. When he started having feelings for Steffy
@@sherquettaingram2578He should have been honest to Hope and tell her that Steffy's sluty behavior appeals more to him that morals.
Liam rushed to marry the virgin because he didn’t trust himself around Steffy.
2021 Steffy is married to Sheila's son Finn, Liam knows that he is Hayes papa but keeps it to himself, still has massive deep feelings for Steffy and now wants to spend more time in the Cliffhouse with Steffy and his children because he doesn't trust Finn !!!
@luisaoelkers813 Lol I keep seeing that rumor that Liam is Hayes real dad. That would be crazy if that ends up being true
See he admitted things changed for him, and he had feelings for Steffy.
If only hope knew how much liam think about steffy in the beginning and even now
Liam was hooked after one kiss
He was hooked before the kiss lol. He was already fantasizing about Steffy before she showed up at his house
it shows liam was falling for Steffy and that's why he asked Hope to marry him pot of the blue He was afraid of his own feelings especially as Steffy had been Bills lover
Mandy Rayner... at this stage Bill and Steffy had not consummated their relationship... lots of kissing and fondling but no intercourse.... not until many years later after Bill had LOL... schtupped BrHooker a thousand times.
I thought I was the only one who saw that 😊 loved this comment 👏👏👏👏
@@Scobster51 yessss...lol. I knew that. So that's why it stumped me how the Hoegans can say it was an affair. Must be talking the emotional affair.
Very obvious because he wouldn't have married Steffy if he didn't have feelings for her. She definitely didn't manipulate his love for her.
That was a full on make out session 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol yep. Everytime Steffy kissed him, his mind went blank
I like how Steffy got Liam to admit that he was feeling the same way she was feeling before she made a move on him. It was kind of like he gave her permission to kiss him
You know, in a weird way, you kind of gotta respect Steffy for the fact she did not hide her feelings from Hope. She stepped to her like a woman and gave her a heads up about her intentions.
Lol that look on Liam's face before Steffy kissed him always gets me. Its like he was trying to process what was happening and then BAM.
They should have put Dayzee and Marcus on screen more and kept them. A delightful distraction from the Logan/Hayes/Forrester/Spencer mess.
Liam and Steffy is heating up
Brooke changed that supporting Hope sticking to her convictions right after Steffy and Liam got married!
That was not conviction..she admitted to the psychiatrist that it was a defense mechanism due to the trauma her mother put her through..later on she even said to Ally that she was extreme and did some growing up (concerning sex and stuff)
@@daniellak.7521 , Hope was with Wyatt when she told Ally that. Hope and Wyatt were really good together.
So sad that Brooke's history with men made Hope do a 180 and decided to wait until marriage to avoid scandal.
@@linorafreeman6234 I don't think waiting until marriage was a bad thing. And while dealing with Brooke's scandals were harmful, to me what really messed Hope up was her mother pushing her to go against her convictions and chase a married man and have sex with a married man. Brooke took Hope to the psychiatrist not to help Hope grow as a person but as Brooke said, "to make it right for Liam." And Brooke was pushing Hope to have sex with Liam not for love and connection and Hope's desires but "to take the wife's power." That's just sick. That poor girl was taking pills followed by booze to stomach having sex with a married man. And she was torn for being a hypocrite to boot. Hope was working on dealing with the first Steam marriage and would have been better off but Brooke and Katie pushed her.
@@shelaswaucrier3752 I totally agree 💯
Lol I just love the boldness of Steffy. When someone has something she wants, she gets right in that person's face and basically says "You have something I want and I'm going to take it from you"
not a admirable trait
@@sippifire💯
So now we have Liam telling Bill to back off of Steffy. Delicious. Just delicious. LOL! Way to go, Liam!
Hope's gonna have a problem on her hands because Liam's feeling something for her stepsister.
marcus and dayzee!!! ❤
she was honest she knew liam was already thinking of her
Steffy just walk in Liam house without knocking on the door. Liam should have locked the door
That's one of the tropes on tv, especially soaps: Nobody ever locks their doors lol
That's right hope go running to Mommy
High school girl hoe😅😅😅
Lol Steffy is slick. Shes not saying "I have feelings for you" or "Im attracted to you". She's saying its him. Shes making it look like hes the one that's coming on to her when its the other way around. Subtle manipulation tactic
So this episode here proves that Liam became interested in Steffy. Even though he knew that his father had a thing with her. Even though his father told him to stay away from Steffy and focus on Hope. It doesnt matter what Steffy did or how forceful she was. Liam had developed something for her and people need to accept that. Logan fans judge Steffy so much for getting with Bill in later episodes but they dont judge Liam here for looking at Steffy in a lustful way after witnessing her relationship with his father. Liam needed and wanted a woman but he tried hard to stay with Hope. Hope was trying so hard not to be like the other Logan women that she lost her true self in the process.
Oh absolutely. Liam became attracted to Steffy after the bathtub incident and Steffy knew it. Liam tried to deny it, that's why he quickly proposed to Hope after this episode cause Liam was scared of his feelings for Steffy. Liam should have known tho that a proposal wasn't gonna stop Steffy lol. I mean she went after Bill and he was actually married
Steffy has really grown up from watching this until the show now. It was good seeing the show and how she grew up when she had Kelly.
Becoming a mom changed her. For the better
I'm a steffy fan, she has grown so much, but, hope should have stand by your choice, u are not being a freak. U should be proud of your decision. Sadly u didn't live up to your convictions.
It is sad Hope listen to Brooke and Katie
Steffy has ALWAYS badmouthed Hope! She's always been jealous.
ARE YALL LISTENING to STEFFY REALLY same line with Oliver, Bill, Owen and NOW Liam!!
And Bill and Liam fell for it. Clearly The Spencers are weak to Steffy's charm lol
LMAO!.." it's not JUST about sex"!😂..yet every time they have a sudden " memory" they're kissing or in bed!!😂😂😅😂
Steffy really set herself up to be in a love triangle from the very beginning. She just wanted to steamroll her way into his life and WIN him no matter by what means..no matter how he felt about hope..Liam was so weak so he gave in but never really took to time to get hope out his system of steffy is who he really wanted
The list triangle begins
Hope Liam and steffy
Again steffy goes after someone who is already taken.
Bill took advantage?
Steffy is the one who perused Bill.
It's because of Bill's feelings for Steffy, Thomas and Brooke were saved from the Island.
How Steffy seduces a man in a relationship: Plants seeds of doubt in the man's partner and then presents herself as the better alternative. Then, take advantage of any problems the man and his partner have in their relationship and then relentlessly pursue him until he finally gives in lol
Yah right Steffy stole Liam.....what was he doing kissing her back over and over again?
Right! Someone can't be stolen they chose their actions themselves.
13:20 Liam tries to cover up Steffy's photo by sliding the folder over it
16:27: Steffy sees it anyway and teases him lol
Steffy is the one controlling him with x. Not Hope.
I really want viewers to go back and watch this season!! Steffy met Liam first! Hope was in love with Oliver when Liam hit the scene! Steffy didn’t manipulate Liam, she prevented Hope from getting to him, but she made her intentions known from the beginning! NO ONE knew Liam would propose to Steffy after Hope dumped him! NO ONE made Liam say yes on that mountain top!! And HOPE, that house wasn’t purchased for you, it was purchased for Amber and her baby!! The same things you accuse a Steffy of, are the EXACT same things your mother has done! So Steffy saw what worked for Brooke and took notes 🤷🏽♀️
While it's true Steffy did meet Liam first, she didn't show him any romantic interest first. She didn't even look at Liam that way until she found out he liked Hope and when he became a Spencer
She came into the world with scandal. Really Steffy. Hitting below the belt.
I mean did she lie? Hope is the product of infidelity
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi but is it her fault?
How about STEFFY’s father, Ridge?
Those are not feelings it’s lust.
Actually, it's not lust nor feelings Steffy has for Liam. It's about her using him and her body to keep him under control as a toy to attack and hurt Hope. Look what that two-face Hopeless have done! Liam has became damage goods and caught up in the real Logan vs Forrester war all because of Hope!
Exactly
"Everything we've been through" Steffy calm down lmao
Liam cheated on hope over and over.
I like him without the beard
2019 liam has kids with both of these women and steffy is still telling men how they feel
Steffy can never talk about how Brooke used she body to get man. Because Steffy did the exact same thing. So sad.
Exactly she did what she claimed she couldn't stand Brooke for doing
Steffy was an admirable character until her motive for love was fueled by getting back at the Logans.
Yes I do admire Steffy. Her love for Liam began because of her resentment of the Logan girls but I saw pure mature love for Liam as they were together much deeper than what Hope had for Liam.
Im sure that played a part of it but eventually it stop being about beating The Logans. She genuinely loved the guy and all she wanted was for him to love her the same way
9:50 - 10:06
When the girl you're fantasizing about is suddenly standing in your living room lol
he believed what Bill said and the logans about Steffy thats why Liam asked Hope to get engaged he thinks her as some kind of devine angel victim Its laughable really
I love watching these old episodes and comparing it how the relationship and characters developed.
Steffy - she was spoilt and went after a guy in a relationship, she made some mistakes (as Hopeless likes to remind us about the Gondola even in 2020) but she has become Liam’s friend first and up most and is his best friend until now... she has changed, she has grown she has learned from her mistakes and blossomed into an independent inspiring woman who is raising a daughter in the best way possible.... while still supporting the love of her life even though he isn’t with her.
Liam - still loves two woman and waffles between them, still afraid to actually go after what he wants instead being manipulated and bullied into a relationship he doesn’t really want to be in by reminding of this promise to Hopeless a decade ago. He is a good father to Beth, but he seems to easily forget about Kelly (which angers the hell out of me) whilst still being secretly in love with Steffy but having no balls to go after her and Hopeless might have another breakdown...
Hopeless - the most despised, boring, spoilt, entitled double standards character which is painful to watch and should be written off.....
@@zuzanavystrcilova7001 You hit the nail on the head !! My thoughts exactly...Only difference NOW I CANT STAND LIAMASSE
marcia Ferguson I know... in last 2 years Liam who I used to adore and who I wanted for Steffy disappeared into the abyss of Logans’ mansion of intrigues, lying, manipulative behaviour and double standards. It’s like they took his soul and replaced it with this wishy-washy lame version... the Liam he is now isn’t good enough for Steffy. I think if/when Steam reunites, the first thing needs to happen is for Liam get rid of that whiney little girl who is the most disgusting character on tv I have ever seen. Only then he can be free to find himself and to start fighting for his Steffy and Kelly. But in the meantime, I think Bell should step up the game and give Steffy a man who truly cherishes her and Kelly and who shows Liam what he can lose.
@@zuzanavystrcilova7001 I really love this comment 👍👍👍 Steffy is the ONLY one that actually grew up n owned her shortcomings n corrected them, now she moved on to a man who loves her n her daughter with his whole heart....Hope is still stuck in the Gondola married to a man whose secretly still in love with his Ex-wife 😂 😂 😂 😂 Hopeless will never have Liam's whole heart
liam asked was Steffy just getting at his dad so already his feelings were growing but he gets engaged to Hope because hes scared and I expect of his dad too
And he definitely doesn’t kiss like he isn’t interested... that boy is smitten and starting to develop feelings....
Lol Liam wasnt prepared for Steffy at all. He had no chance at resisting her
Men are adventurous. Liam is interested in knowing what his father saw in steffy. He later got stacked.
Steffy has failed to tell Daddy dearest how she went after Bill, relentlessly went after Bill. Throwing herself at every opportunity.
Steffy thinks the only way to get a man is sex. I admire Hope fir wanting to wait
So because Steffy would sleep with him and Hope would rather wait until marriage not actually not fall into a parents bad choices that makes her the wrong woman? Massimo said it best about the Forresters and relationships.
What did he say?
What did he say?
Taylor force stuffy to be with Liam , no wonder she lost Ridge Brooke
Told you this show going with fake relationship
She’s doing it Liam to get back at Hope and all of the Logans.
Finally, someone understand the picture! 👏🙌🍾🥂✊🤗
In The beginning than After cabo No more Liam Changed her
Steffy is so cruel... Sex is not everything and Hope is respecting herself and waiting there is nothing wrong with that. Loving someone is deeper than the physical And for someone how always want to call out Brooke your acting a lot like the woman you “say”Brooke is ... she is a hypocrite smh
Brooke holier-than-thou attitude is irritating.
Steffy talking about Hope with Liam wont get him look on your Merit Ridge tell the truth you were listening to their conversation
Desperado Steffy
Sorry no he's not your boyfriend hope
Hope you can't even fight your own battles in 2023. Because she is listened to others people opinions
Wow I used to say if Liam can’t wait for sex then he’s not worthy but now realising that Hope has been leading him around but the ‘nose’ for almost 2 YEARS… no wonder Steffy was able to get under his skin and he had to propose to the virgin to get the ball rolling 😂😂😂😂😂 so to speak.
Hope little girl running to her mom😂😂😂😂😂
She was very young at that time, so?
Ivy Forrestor or someone from cooper past before la years should surface and should create quite a stir in the current episodes
Lol Bill took advantage. Of the girl that constantly seduced him. Steffy needed to be truthful with Daddy.
So are Dayzee and Thomas over?
Hope you still sound like high school girl
Ja but now he is whit Hope...
I can’t stand steffy!
I agree, she needs to find her own damn man!
RobCutpictures 28 the problem is the writers love her.
MsGhost79 so true! I no longer watch the show because I’m sick of Liam/Steffy/Hope triangle
@@whitneyfan9019 they dragged this out for too long it's really frustrating.
MsGhost79 absolutely agree! Now I hear they are doing some crazy story with hopes baby. I can’t with this show anymore
They REALLY tried playing Steffy off as sexy in THAT dress?! Lol!
:D..she has come a long way..her and (this) Hope. Kim Matula and JMW are the most beautiful women (new generation) on that show.
Now Steffies face is plumpy compared to this episode.
❤️
Hope we got it you don't want to be like your mother Brooke
Its liams fault no women can steal anothers women's man if the man dont let them liam should have completely stayed away from steffy . Yeah steffy should not have went after him but liam let it happen the women always get the blame in this show bout time the men got held accountable.
Play boy Liam