I used to live in Havant and often took these trains into Portsmouth, as i was about 10 at the time, me and my Friend built a Den track side to watch the trains go by. (yes, even though we were only 10, we knew the dangers and stayed well clear of the tracks) Havant used to have a 3rd track running though the middle of the station for freight and non stop traffic.
+Daniel Gregory (EpicDavinci) Awesome :) I remember when they had the extra track at Havant, I think it may have been the only time I travelled along the West Coastway in a Class 421. If I remember rightly the track was removed around ten years ago, though I'm not certain?
Great video, with the level crossing at busy crossing: such as ones near station which have half barriers the Alarm stays on to warn pedestrians that crossing is down.
thomas charles It's very unusual to have half barrier crossings at stations. Even so, that noise doesn't go through me in real life like it does in game lol :p
Peter. a fascinating video of how it used to be. I grew up in EPB territory on the commuter line from Dartford to Charing Cross and love to see a route with new EPB that you mentioned. Just a thought: who closed all the open slam doors shown in cut outs in this video? Roger Crick
+Roger Crick Thank you Roger. In some ways, I prefer things how they used to be to how they are now. I guess that as humans we get terribly nostalgic for some perceived better past sometimes? I will see what I can do about making a video in the EPB. In Train Simulator, all the doors close themselves lol!
There is another version of the PDL available on steam workshop which has been completely revamped. In addition the line from Woking to aldershot has been added. I believe it is called "Portsmouth direct line - updated"
The speed limits are indeed different in each direction. Between Portsmouth and Woking there are 3 sections of 90mph going towards Portsmouth but nothing over 85mph going towards London. Between Petersfield and Liss the speed limit is 80-85mph going towards London but 85-90mph towards Portsmouth. There isn't a 50mph section either with goods trains able to do 60mph-85mph depending on the exact location between Petersfield and Loss. Additionally the long section of 60mph between Milford and Farnham in the London-bound direction is 75-80mph going towards Portsmouth. This theme of differing speeds limits in each direction is particularly prevalent on the Portsmouth Line but is not unique to it. If you have any further speed limits queries please don't hesitate to ask me, Ben.
Very good question. The only thing I can think of is something to do with signal spacing having an effect on braking distances and therefore maximum permissible speeds.
Your videos are always entertaining and informative. One thing though, on the older scenarios like this one, there were no "searchlight" style colour lights as depicted here. Is this a problem that cannot be rectified because of the program? I have noticed similar problems on other scenarios by other contributors. Other than that slight criticism, great work as always!
hi pgt i love your videos :) cant stop watching them allways looking forward to a new video. im from Leeds and wondering is there any routes around the Yorkshire area if so is it possible for you to do a run round yorkshire in a deisel unit. Thanks
Great video. I've been on part of this line from Eastleigh to London. The trains look great and also sound a lot like old EMUs. Do you know how to sort out this problem I have with Train Simulator 2013/16? The problem is massive lag. The trains move really slow. I can hardly do anything. It takes about 1 minute for a train to go about a metre.
Byron Horne Yes I can see that from the seven nearly identical comments you have left me. Please don't leave so many comments, I don't appreciate people spamming my videos.
Hello again. Great video as always. Made me go out and purchase this DLC. Love the 421 Southern so this will be no different, besides the skin. I have a question, I've been trying to make my own scenario on the London-Brighton route. I'm wondering is there a specific place you get the real life timetables from. I'm from Canada so I don't know the ins and outs of the UK routes. I've found sites that give me the timetables of the route but no platform numbers. It's quite easy for the smaller stations, like Hassocks and Balcombe for example, but for the bigger stations like Gatwick Airport and especially London Victoria, how do you know what platform is correct. As well as the service number for each train? That'd be a huge help for me. Thanks.
These videos are great. I'm currently doing roads for SWR. It's been impossible to get out there at moment due to coronavirus and there is some good information in here. Some speeds boards are in the wrong places though, is that because of the 1994 scenario?
TheBVE2010 They sure are! With just a couple of minor tweaks in this, making trains delayed by a couple of minutes here and there so we saw some adverse signals. But all AI services are based on the real timetable in all my scenarios, that's the way I like it and I wouldn't have it any other way :)
PTGRail Nice, I try very hard to have my scenarios based on a real timetable, but I just end up having trains blocking each other. May I ask how you use the info from timetables to place trains in the editor. Is there a certain website or certain software you use. Please let me know if you didn't understand my question :)
TheBVE2010 I use www.realtimetrains.co.uk for timetable information as it gives me the headcodes too which I copy and paste as the service name. Do you know about changing priorities so that certain trains are given signalling priority over others? That can help when services block each other. I simply look at the timetable information and add the trains in to the editor manually.
PTGRail Thanks! Yes I do, I believe express passenger services are given priority over stopping passenger services, and express freight is given priority over standard freight. Am I right?
+TheBVE2010 If you're asking about real life, then not quite! But as a standard rule of thumb, yes. Express, stopping, freight. In real life there are certain rules about which trains take priority over each other, which can depend on the 'value' of a service...
Regarding making a video for another country. Could you do the German DB Class 103 electric locomotive as it is my favourite German train. If you don't own it then perhaps an ICE 3, ICE T or ICE TD set instead? Many thanks, Ben. ☺
Hi, Peter. I've created a number of steam workshop scenarios, and I have currently two (that I know of) scenarios which use the real timetable, one of which is called 'Northbound 225' on the DPSimulation East Coast MainLine - North East. You can find it here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=447723201 A full list of reskins and DLC can be found on the page, I believe you have the correct stock, just some reskin downloads. There is one piece of DLC which I know you haven't got, which is the Class 220 from DTG, however, I don't see why you can't swap it out for the Just Trains version instead.EDIT: if you wish to cover the route in the 'up' (Southbound) direction, you can use this scenario: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=349777972 which is based off a fictional timetable, as it is set in BR days, and couldn't use a BR timetable.
Just out of curiosity if you know how to do your own reskins. Could you maybe try the gatwick express reskin on the class 395 so that it would sort of look like the old class 460?
I was just wondering what that round "gauge" is to the left of the window that lights up yellow & black and a buzzing sound is emitted whenever it lights up. It kinda looks like a flower to me when it's all lit up, lol. I've noticed that all of the trains have that. What is that?
+Aaron Lewis it's the AWS 'sunflower'. AWS = Automatic Warning System. Basically when it shows a yellow set of 'petals' it warns the driver that the signal aspect is set to caution (yellow or red). When it's not showing anything, it means it's a clear aspect (i.e. green).It's also responsible for one of the ringing/buzzing noises. I forget which (I'm not a train driver so don't have to remember :P)
+Sarnoc Sunflower! That's the kinda flower it reminds me of! I just couldn't think of it at the time. For the longest time I've been trying to figure out what that was for and now I know. Thanks for the info!
Just to clarify, is Super elevation where one rail is at a different height to the other, making the train tilt for corners? I'm not entirely sure if this is correct.
I used to live in Havant and often took these trains into Portsmouth, as i was about 10 at the time, me and my Friend built a Den track side to watch the trains go by. (yes, even though we were only 10, we knew the dangers and stayed well clear of the tracks)
Havant used to have a 3rd track running though the middle of the station for freight and non stop traffic.
+Daniel Gregory (EpicDavinci) Awesome :) I remember when they had the extra track at Havant, I think it may have been the only time I travelled along the West Coastway in a Class 421. If I remember rightly the track was removed around ten years ago, though I'm not certain?
keep doing these videos... never leave this work ... love your work a lot
+Prabhasis Singh Thank you, I don't plan to leave this work! I really appreciate your comment :)
Thank You for the upload! Very interesting and informative. Enjoyed it. Keep up the good work.
TheBVE2010 Thanks! :)
I absolutely love your videos and your dry British wit! Keep up the good work! /A railfan in Sweden :)
+Nightsearch Thanks! XD I really appreciate your comment :)
Very useful and informative. Thanks for this.
I’m glad you enjoyed! :)
Great video, with the level crossing at busy crossing: such as ones near station which have half barriers the Alarm stays on to warn pedestrians that crossing is down.
thomas charles It's very unusual to have half barrier crossings at stations. Even so, that noise doesn't go through me in real life like it does in game lol :p
+PTGRail I can tell it's the pitch that does it if only someone made a sound file that made it less harsh to the ear
thomas charles Agreed! XD
Been to this station once before! Got a SWT 444 to Fareham before getting a FGW 158 to Harbour nice journey :-)
+HSTJames1 Awesome :)
Peter. a fascinating video of how it used to be. I grew up in EPB territory on the commuter line from Dartford to Charing Cross and love to see a route with new EPB that you mentioned. Just a thought: who closed all the open slam doors shown in cut outs in this video? Roger Crick
+Roger Crick Thank you Roger. In some ways, I prefer things how they used to be to how they are now. I guess that as humans we get terribly nostalgic for some perceived better past sometimes? I will see what I can do about making a video in the EPB. In Train Simulator, all the doors close themselves lol!
Great video, enjoy your style its interesting. I bought heavy haul and found it terribly boring so went back to ts2017.
There is another version of the PDL available on steam workshop which has been completely revamped. In addition the line from Woking to aldershot has been added. I believe it is called "Portsmouth direct line - updated"
Yes, I've got that now. I may make a video on it in the near future :)
The speed limits are indeed different in each direction. Between Portsmouth and Woking there are 3 sections of 90mph going towards Portsmouth but nothing over 85mph going towards London. Between Petersfield and Liss the speed limit is 80-85mph going towards London but 85-90mph towards Portsmouth. There isn't a 50mph section either with goods trains able to do 60mph-85mph depending on the exact location between Petersfield and Loss. Additionally the long section of 60mph between Milford and Farnham in the London-bound direction is 75-80mph going towards Portsmouth. This theme of differing speeds limits in each direction is particularly prevalent on the Portsmouth Line but is not unique to it. If you have any further speed limits queries please don't hesitate to ask me, Ben.
+Ben Reid The question is why do the speed limits differ?
Very good question. The only thing I can think of is something to do with signal spacing having an effect on braking distances and therefore maximum permissible speeds.
Awesome route learning video, as usual. Well done Peter! How do I request a scenario, just typing it here, or send you a message about it?
Your videos are always entertaining and informative. One thing though, on the older scenarios like this one, there were no "searchlight" style colour lights as depicted here. Is this a problem that cannot be rectified because of the program? I have noticed similar problems on other scenarios by other contributors. Other than that slight criticism, great work as always!
hi pgt i love your videos :) cant stop watching them allways looking forward to a new video. im from Leeds and wondering is there any routes around the Yorkshire area if so is it possible for you to do a run round yorkshire in a deisel unit. Thanks
+Hilary Baines Thanks! :) Unfortunately there aren't any routes in that area which I know of.
Great video. I've been on part of this line from Eastleigh to London. The trains look great and also sound a lot like old EMUs. Do you know how to sort out this problem I have with Train Simulator 2013/16? The problem is massive lag. The trains move really slow. I can hardly do anything. It takes about 1 minute for a train to go about a metre.
Hi there. I have a scenario for London to Faversherm. Just search Euro southeastern and you should find it. Screenshot is of the island line
Byron Horne Yes I can see that from the seven nearly identical comments you have left me. Please don't leave so many comments, I don't appreciate people spamming my videos.
sorry. when I submitted the comment it said "Comment unsuccessful" or something similar.
Hello again. Great video as always. Made me go out and purchase this DLC. Love the 421 Southern so this will be no different, besides the skin. I have a question, I've been trying to make my own scenario on the London-Brighton route. I'm wondering is there a specific place you get the real life timetables from. I'm from Canada so I don't know the ins and outs of the UK routes. I've found sites that give me the timetables of the route but no platform numbers. It's quite easy for the smaller stations, like Hassocks and Balcombe for example, but for the bigger stations like Gatwick Airport and especially London Victoria, how do you know what platform is correct. As well as the service number for each train? That'd be a huge help for me. Thanks.
+Joel Stevens Service numbers are at www.semgonline.com/headcodes/eheadcodes.html
+Byron Horne You only need to say once, not spam the comments section...
Please can you make a London to Brighton route learning video I will find it very helpful. In a class 377 thank you.
Themonkeyman001 I sure will be doing one in the not too distant future! :)
These videos are great. I'm currently doing roads for SWR. It's been impossible to get out there at moment due to coronavirus and there is some good information in here. Some speeds boards are in the wrong places though, is that because of the 1994 scenario?
Hi there. I have a scenario for London to Faversherm. Search Euro southeastern and you should find it Screenshot is of the island line
stop it
lee swain I've just removed most of his comments lol XD
PTGRail lol
One question PTG. Are the A.I trains in your scenarios based on a real timeteble as well as the player trains. Once again, great video!
TheBVE2010 They sure are! With just a couple of minor tweaks in this, making trains delayed by a couple of minutes here and there so we saw some adverse signals. But all AI services are based on the real timetable in all my scenarios, that's the way I like it and I wouldn't have it any other way :)
PTGRail Nice, I try very hard to have my scenarios based on a real timetable, but I just end up having trains blocking each other. May I ask how you use the info from timetables to place trains in the editor. Is there a certain website or certain software you use. Please let me know if you didn't understand my question :)
TheBVE2010 I use www.realtimetrains.co.uk for timetable information as it gives me the headcodes too which I copy and paste as the service name. Do you know about changing priorities so that certain trains are given signalling priority over others? That can help when services block each other. I simply look at the timetable information and add the trains in to the editor manually.
PTGRail Thanks! Yes I do, I believe express passenger services are given priority over stopping passenger services, and express freight is given priority over standard freight. Am I right?
+TheBVE2010 If you're asking about real life, then not quite! But as a standard rule of thumb, yes. Express, stopping, freight. In real life there are certain rules about which trains take priority over each other, which can depend on the 'value' of a service...
Regarding making a video for another country. Could you do the German DB Class 103 electric locomotive as it is my favourite German train. If you don't own it then perhaps an ICE 3, ICE T or ICE TD set instead? Many thanks, Ben. ☺
+Ben Reid I do indeed have the BR 103, and I really like it too. That's not a bad idea, and I'll look into making a video on that sometime soon :)
Thanks, I appreciate your consideration.
Hi, Peter. I've created a number of steam workshop scenarios, and I have currently two (that I know of) scenarios which use the real timetable, one of which is called 'Northbound 225' on the DPSimulation East Coast MainLine - North East. You can find it here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=447723201 A full list of reskins and DLC can be found on the page, I believe you have the correct stock, just some reskin downloads. There is one piece of DLC which I know you haven't got, which is the Class 220 from DTG, however, I don't see why you can't swap it out for the Just Trains version instead.EDIT: if you wish to cover the route in the 'up' (Southbound) direction, you can use this scenario: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=349777972 which is based off a fictional timetable, as it is set in BR days, and couldn't use a BR timetable.
+Camerons Gaming Thanks, I will check them out and see what I think :)
Just out of curiosity if you know how to do your own reskins. Could you maybe try the gatwick express reskin on the class 395 so that it would sort of look like the old class 460?
Luke Amarn Unfortunately not, I don't know how to do my own reskins lol
I was just wondering what that round "gauge" is to the left of the window that lights up yellow & black and a buzzing sound is emitted whenever it lights up. It kinda looks like a flower to me when it's all lit up, lol. I've noticed that all of the trains have that. What is that?
+Aaron Lewis it's the AWS 'sunflower'. AWS = Automatic Warning System. Basically when it shows a yellow set of 'petals' it warns the driver that the signal aspect is set to caution (yellow or red). When it's not showing anything, it means it's a clear aspect (i.e. green).It's also responsible for one of the ringing/buzzing noises. I forget which (I'm not a train driver so don't have to remember :P)
+Sarnoc Sunflower! That's the kinda flower it reminds me of! I just couldn't think of it at the time. For the longest time I've been trying to figure out what that was for and now I know. Thanks for the info!
could you do a video on south london to brighton from london bride to brighton in the class 421 southern
+Colin Engelbert I'll see what I can do :)
okay thanks.
He sounds like The 9th Doctor
Haha, I've never watched much Doctor Who, but now you've made me want to check out the 9th Doctor for myself :p
PTGRail It was meant to be a complement and not an insult! Great video By the way
Patrick MacCreoghan
Don't worry, I didn't think it was an insult :)
And thanks!
Just to clarify, is Super elevation where one rail is at a different height to the other, making the train tilt for corners? I'm not entirely sure if this is correct.
Ah, thanks.
Mil Pop It sure it, and it makes the movement of trains in TS look a lot better and more realistic :)
+PTGRail I thought some trains tilted alot on bends like the Pendolino :P I'm guessing it must be the Super elevation. Its a nice idea and it works :)
Yeah I know that. The pendolino of course :P
how did you get the X car stop signs on the portsmouth direct line because i have this route but there isnt any car stop signs on the platforms?
+Luke Winson I'm using the free update by DP Simulation so I guess that may have added the stop markers in :)
+PTGRail ok thanks
Can you drive my scenario on the Berlin to Wittenberg route? It's called Morning ICE by ericen_13.
+ericen_13 I will check it out and see what I can do :)
Is it diesel or electric?
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Doesn't look like Portsmouth Harbour to me
First comment, hi ptgrail I'm 44353 from the Matt peddles ton stream on 8 25 15,
Carl Flounder Hiii there lol :)
I miss the old slam door trains. Screw South West Trains.
+Sir Peepsalot I totally agree with you!
+PearsonPatrol I thought they were holding together well lol XD
+PTGRail At least the acceleration sound of the Desiros is quite amusing. Personally, I like both modern and slam-door trains.
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