A Nice Olympiad Algebra Problem | X=? & Y= ?

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  • @is7728
    @is7728 10 місяців тому +14

    10:37 it should be m = -7, but luckily it didn't affect the square of m at 11:55 😊

  • @joseeoliviero6078
    @joseeoliviero6078 10 місяців тому +4

    Amazing that this can be done. However, I wish I could watch someone teach me how to do this type of math instead of just watching someone do the math. I can't learn it by watching the video. Nothing against the person doing this math. I just wish I could find a teacher that can teach what goes on in a person's head as you put a plan together and solve this type of math problem.
    Great job!

  • @muwlgr
    @muwlgr 9 місяців тому +1

    "perfect square" is formula for expansion of (a+-b)**2 into a**2+-2*a*b+b**2 and back
    formula for a**2-b**2 = (a+b)*(a-b) is called "difference of squares"

  • @nagarmanibhai5676
    @nagarmanibhai5676 10 місяців тому +9

    M+7=0. M= -7

    • @nagarajahshiremagalore226
      @nagarajahshiremagalore226 9 місяців тому +2

      Yes you are right. He has wrongly written.

    • @thekoolaOriginal
      @thekoolaOriginal 5 місяців тому

      ​@@nagarajahshiremagalore226 yep, but then it (luckly) was squared so the result doesn't't change.

  • @wilfredosalazar1824
    @wilfredosalazar1824 10 місяців тому

    The methodology consists of decomposing the the powers in terms that could be factored and identify them with the given equations the additional trick is to create the new variables for easy manipulation

  • @oahuhawaii2141
    @oahuhawaii2141 3 місяці тому

    x³ + y³ = 35 { E1 }
    x² + y² = 13 { E2 }
    Note: x & y are interchangeable.
    Use z = x, y as roots of a quadratic equation:
    (z - x)*(z - y) = 0
    z² - (x + y)*z + x*y = 0 { Note sum and product }
    z = ((x + y) ± √((x + y)² - 4*x*y))/2 { E3 }
    = ((x + y) ± √(x² + 2*x*y + y² - 4*x*y))/2
    = ((x + y) ± √(x² - 2*x*y + y²))/2
    = ((x + y) ± √(x - y)²)/2
    = ((x + y) ± (x - y))/2
    z = x, y { For "±", the "+" yields x, the "-" yields y. }
    Let s = (x + y) and p = (x*y) in E3:
    z = (s ± √(s² - 4*p))/2 { E3' }
    Let z⁺ = (s + √(s² - 4*p))/2
    Let z⁻ = (s - √(s² - 4*p))/2
    Thus, (x, y) = (z⁺, z⁻)
    Since x & y are interchangeable, this means:
    (x, y) = (z⁻, z⁺), (z⁺, z⁻) { E3" }
    Use E1 in the expansion of the cube of the sum:
    (x + y)³ = x³ + 3*x²*y + 3*x*y² + y³
    (x + y)³ = (x³ + y³) + 3*x*y*(x + y)
    s³ = 35 + 3*p*s { E1' }
    Use E2 in the expansion of the square of the sum:
    (x + y)² = x² + 2*x*y + y²
    (x + y)² = (x² + y²) + 2*x*y
    s² = 13 + 2*p
    p = (s² - 13)/2 { E2' }
    Use E2' in E1' to eliminate p, and find s:
    s³ = 35 + 3*((s² - 13)/2)*s
    s³ = 35 + 3*s³/2 - 39*s/2
    0 = 35 + s³/2 - 39*s/2
    s³ - 39*s + 70 = 0
    s³ - 4*s - 35*s + 70 = 0
    s*(s - 2)*(s + 2) - 35*(s - 2) = 0
    (s - 2)*(s² + 2*s - 35) = 0
    s = 2, (-2 ± √144)/2
    = 2, -1 ± 6
    = 2, 5, -7
    Use E2' in E3', and substitute s:
    z = (s ± √(s² - 4*(s² - 13)/2))/2
    = (s ± √(s² - 2*(s² - 13)))/2
    = (s ± √(26 - s²))/2
    = (2 ± √22)/2, (5 ± 1)/2, (-7 ± i*√23)/2
    From E3", we list the solutions:
    (x, y) = (z⁻, z⁺), (z⁺, z⁻) =
    (1 - √22/2, 1 + √22/2),
    (1 + √22/2, 1 - √22/2),
    (2, 3),
    (3, 2),
    (-7/2 - i*√23/2, -7/2 + i*√23/2),
    (-7/2 + i*√23/2, -7/2 - i*√23/2)
    Alternative solution:
    x³ + y³ = 35 { Note: 3³ + 2³ }
    x² + y² = 13 { Note: 3² + 2² }
    x & y are interchangeable.
    y⁶ = y⁶
    (y²)³ = (y³)²
    (13 - x²)³ = (35 - x³)²
    13³ - 3*13²*x² + 3*13*x⁴ - x⁶ = 1225 - 70*x³ + x⁶
    2*x⁶ - 39*x⁴ - 70*x³ + 507*x² - 972 = 0
    (x² - 5*x + 6)*(2*x² - 4*x - 9)*(x² + 7*x + 18) = 0
    x = (5 ± 1)/2, 1 ± √22/2, (-7 ± i*√23)/2
    y = (5 ∓ 1)/2, 1 ∓ √22/2, (-7 ∓ i*√23)/2
    (x, y) = (2, 3), (3, 2),
    (1 - √22/2, 1 + √22/2),
    (1 + √22/2, 1 - √22/2),
    ((-7 - i*√23)/2, (-7 + i*√23)/2),
    ((-7 + i*√23)/2, (-7 - i*√23)/2)
    Full factorization was done via synthetic division.
    x = 2, 3 , so a factor is (x - 2)*(x - 3) = x² - 5*x + 6 .
    1 -5 6 * 2 10 -1 -135 -162
    2 0 -39 -70 507 0 -972
    2 -10 12
    0 10 -51 -70 507 0 -972
    0 10 -50 60
    0 0 -1 -130 507 0 -972
    0 0 -1 5 -6
    0 0 0 -135 513 0 -972
    0 0 0 -135 675 -810
    0 0 0 0 -162 810 -972
    0 0 0 0 -162 810 -972
    Factor 2: 1*2 . Factor -162: -2*3⁴ = -9*18 .
    2 -4 -9 * 1 7 18
    2 10 -1 -135 -162
    2 -4 -9
    0 14 8 -135 -162
    0 14 -28 -63
    0 0 36 -72 -162
    0 0 36 -72 -162
    Other factorizations:
    (2*x³ - 10*x² + 3*x + 27)*(x³ + 5*x² + 4*x - 36) = 0
    (2*x³ - 8*x² - x + 18)*(x³ + 4*x² - 3*x - 54) = 0
    Commentary on video:
    07:45 (m² - 4) isn't a perfect square
    09:23 you can complete the square to solve faster:
    m² + 2* m + 1 = (m + 1)² = 36
    m = -1 ± 6 = 5, -7
    10:37 you wrote 7 instead of -7
    13:30 m is the sum, and n is the product.
    They're the coefficients of a quadratic equation:
    z² - m*z + n = 0
    This is readily solved via the quadratic formula:
    z = (m ± √(m² - 4*n)/2
    You can put in the m & n values directly and simplify to get the roots immediately.
    15:09 you wrote x instead of x²
    You previously had mispronounced it "eksy", and later mispronounce discriminant as "de-criminint".

  • @parvinkumarmalhotra3644
    @parvinkumarmalhotra3644 8 місяців тому

    Think two less than 13 such that sum of their square equals 13.2and 3 sre such twonumbers. The sum of the cubes of these numbers equals 35 Hence x = 2or3 while y= 3 or 2 are the solution of these two equations.
    P.k.Malhotra

    • @oahuhawaii2141
      @oahuhawaii2141 3 місяці тому

      But you missed the other 4 solutions.

  • @SlexBi
    @SlexBi 10 місяців тому +2

    You must write equal sign on the fraction line level, not on the numerator level. This together with other mistakes mentioned here and idiotic thumbs in response to those mentions makes video ugly.

  • @merciyu4764
    @merciyu4764 10 місяців тому +2

    10:38 wrong, that should equal to -7.

  • @АндрейПергаев-з4н
    @АндрейПергаев-з4н 8 місяців тому

    Сделать замену ху=а, х+у=с, тогда уравнение 1 имеет вид
    с*(13-а)=35
    Уравнение 2
    с^2-2а=14
    Тогда
    с*(40-с^2)=70

  • @MerryDrums
    @MerryDrums 7 місяців тому

    Ah, I see someone else has also noted the Tutor's small error. M does not equal +7 but in fact equals -7. Still an excellent video! If this was a student's work very few marks should have been taken off, unless of course the error had made the rest of the working very much easier! I was told this at college many moons ago.

  • @davidshen5916
    @davidshen5916 4 місяці тому

    M^3-3MN=35, M^2-2N=13 ➡️ 2M^3-6MN=70, 3M^3-6MN=39M,➡️M^3-39M+70=0

  • @奥村泰雄-e5n
    @奥村泰雄-e5n 10 місяців тому

    いかにも簡単に見えて難しいですね。xが3でyが2でしょうね。

  • @NBuser70
    @NBuser70 10 місяців тому

    In the second possible solution (m) will be equal to (-7) not (7)

  • @khalilatie5154
    @khalilatie5154 10 місяців тому

    This level of mathematics is secondary or university

  • @is7728
    @is7728 10 місяців тому +1

    And also it should be 2x^2 at 15:08

  • @merciyu4764
    @merciyu4764 10 місяців тому +1

    15:10 should be 2x^2

  • @ahmadhabibi3348
    @ahmadhabibi3348 5 місяців тому

    correction m2=-7 and
    2x^2-4x-9 =0 not 2x-4x-9=0

  • @medlebon4913
    @medlebon4913 4 місяці тому

    M= -7 Une erreur d'inattention qui peut tout fausser.

  • @mdesai1255
    @mdesai1255 7 місяців тому

    M=_7

  • @BehrouzKatirachi
    @BehrouzKatirachi 6 місяців тому

    NEW WAY

  • @user-Robloxs
    @user-Robloxs 10 місяців тому

    2X2 -4X-9=0

  • @salemblbas5465
    @salemblbas5465 9 місяців тому

    m=-7

  • @anestismoutafidis4575
    @anestismoutafidis4575 10 місяців тому +1

    x=2; y=3;

  • @user-Robloxs
    @user-Robloxs 10 місяців тому

    M+7=0. M=-7

  • @ПолинаКнязева-у5г
    @ПолинаКнязева-у5г 10 місяців тому +1

    3 и 2

  • @ianosescuion9218
    @ianosescuion9218 10 місяців тому

    X=2,Y =3

    • @oahuhawaii2141
      @oahuhawaii2141 3 місяці тому

      But you missed the other 5 solutions.

  • @sudarshandutta2498
    @sudarshandutta2498 7 місяців тому

    X=3,.Y=2.

    • @oahuhawaii2141
      @oahuhawaii2141 3 місяці тому

      But you missed the other 5 solutions.

  • @beatahinoul3853
    @beatahinoul3853 10 місяців тому

    m=-7

  • @alidhawadi
    @alidhawadi 10 місяців тому

    M=😮

  • @advalk9505
    @advalk9505 10 місяців тому

    M = -7 !!!!!

  • @santoniusyunus5488
    @santoniusyunus5488 5 місяців тому

    m+7 =0, so m = -7, not 7

  • @ludmilak9396
    @ludmilak9396 8 місяців тому

    Очень плохо. Допущены две ошибки. Такое впечатление, что стример зазубрил текст, не понимая смысла.

  • @flame_of_the_west8909
    @flame_of_the_west8909 10 місяців тому

    2 and 3. In three seconds with trial and error

    • @oahuhawaii2141
      @oahuhawaii2141 3 місяці тому

      But you missed the other 4 solutions.

  • @tamnguyen-gq6pz
    @tamnguyen-gq6pz 7 місяців тому

    m=-7

  • @MilenaMircic-io5gd
    @MilenaMircic-io5gd 10 місяців тому

    m=-7