Have it on my 701 enduro. First QS I’ve ever had. Was short shifting in the beginning and it made for a rough ride, but now that I keep each gear longer the QS is buttery smooth.
Pretty soon the dirt bike will do everything for you to where all you do is sit down and twist a throttle. The overall experience of banging gears, twisting the throttle and being on the clutch is fun and what’s it’s all about.
Lol it’s not like a quickshifter will make you go faster suddenly😂 Yes it’s a bit easier but i usually shift wide open and tap the clutch a little bit. It’s basically the same as quickshifting
If you had a thumb lever and a finger lever such like the MTN bikes. You wouldn’t want buttons say next to your kill switch. Up and down. You would have to reach up with your thumb. I feel that would put your hand at risk of being removed from the grip on a bump or something.
Pull in the clutch? i only ever use that for start and stops, never onced used it shifting while racing! and it never gave 1 problem either, My 2003 Troy Yamaha YZ125 i never used the cluth while already moving, and only let off half way to shift, and it was always so rock solid and never a problem, Im a Team Green guy but that was my favorite bike i ever owned!
same! I just posted my experiences "quick shifting", but I was never brave enough to do it from a start because you know how it makes that "BANG!" when go from stopped to 1st gear without a clutch. lol...at least when you're already in 2nd going like 15mph it's really smooth upshifting without a clutch.
guess I'd have to try it to understand because I've been "quick shifting" my bikes since 2003. No clutch, never letting off the gas just bang the shifter up a gear. I know a guy who did this on his CRF450Rs from neutral to first from a deadstop and high RPMs, then "quick shift"up through the gear box at Talladega. Think about that...I wouldn't do it, thought it would eventually rip apart the clutch/tranny. Never do it downshifting but going from 2 to 3rd to 4th and 5th...all-day, easy day. I keep all my race bikes to 80 hours, never had any trans issues either.
so i have the 2023 ktm 450 sxf and tried to use it and i was cruising in 2nd and then activated it and tried powering through and wouldnt shift how do i use it?
I cant wait to use it properly on my huskyfc350 23 , just getting used to the power a bike at min after a 09 yz250f also wanna try the traction control and launch control too
“Kawi transmissions are garbage” I would agree, but I run golden spectro in my kdx 220R and with that oil it shifts like a dream, easily comparable to a Yamaha 2 stroke, I’d say I hit false neutrals more on a yz than my Kawasaki. How you take care of things, and what you use in them will go a long way in the future…
I agree. With the right maintenance any machine will last. However Kawasaki and Suzuki have the worst "feeling" trans. Not even unreliable as they both are reliable but a KTM trans is just so smooth. Even Honda shifts are funny. Yamaha I have never ridden other than a TTR225 and that trans is hot garbage. Lol
@@nathanielostrowski2437 mine is an original 2003 kdx 220. Bought it a few years ago. The guy had it in storage, so all I did was put new graphics on it, rode it a little, then had the engine redone/checked out. The whole key to that bike and ktm’s 2 strokes are the transmissions. That old Kawasaki is a 6 speed, and that is what makes the difference really. I still don’t get why even Yamaha doesn’t move the 250x to a 6 speed, it’s already a damn good bike, but that move alone would make a big difference
@@dementedspirit1359 haha I have a 99 KDX 220 and a 16 KTM 250 SX at the moment. Both are great bikes and I will agree with you. The 6th gear is so welcome. Lol. Wish I had the 16 as an XC but the SX is what I got. The KDX has always clicked in but loves it's random false neutral reality checks from time to time. Not dissing the KDX either as it is a great bike and a lovely bike for any skill but the trans has never impressed me. Always have ran Bel Ray 2t and Kawasaki trans oil since new. The KTM has been on Amsoil since my ownership
@@jonathoncatterson8901 what exact bike? and going from what gear to gear does it happen most? I'm thinking of buying this bike just to eliminate false nuetrals cause I've had two bad crashes over last few years from false nuetrals and a few other close calls
Sounds like would help alot on 4strokes in racing mx. My old 2006 yz125 i could shift without clutch or backing off the throttle in races and you could hardly even hear revs change at all. Always up near top revs worked easiest. All my 2strokes since have been almost the same. Got 300 now and can do but don't have to change gears anywhere asmuch. 2nd and mostly 3rd most of time. After that your up around 100kmh, hard to go like that all day on single trails or mx track. I will have to have a go on couple of new 4stroke mx bikes from work and have a rip. Just have never ridden alot apart from few quick go's of mates bikes. But most of us ride the 2bangas as we're not racing. Avagud1 fella's
Until it starts Hessitating out of nowhere, Ya know the orange is finally growing on me a little, but back in the day the Black ones looked better, but neither as good looking as Green!.......Team Green ALWAYS!
I commented on the tiktok when you first announced this. And I retract my statement. It looks like a huge improvement on the early KTM street bike QS. Very impressive KTM. Is their an auto blipper down?
@@mxgryan I think this is a great feature! If it remains reliable I would love to have one... I assume it requires some additional sensors that weren't there before, will see if the system remains reliable (which I assume KTM did their homework and it will hold up over time just fine :)). This system only works for UP SHIFTING? I assume that is what is meant above by "auto blipper down". Hopefully they will expand the system to work with shifting in both directions but since the "power" is sorta going through the transmission in the opposite direction on decel I'd imagine down shifting has some unique challenges. Do any street bikes have a similar function for both up and down shifts? I'd think for down shifts you would actually need to blip the throttle to increase engine RPM's to match the transmission i the next lower gear. Still pretty cool!
Old tech finally making it to the dirt world. My KTM 1290 SAR was awesome with quick shit. What's really fun is auto blip downshifts into a corner then WOT out of the corner on a street bike. HOLD ON. LOL
Can all the parts associated with the KTM quick shift be adapted to other makes, regardless of price to adapt to my ESR 325 YZ . . . I'd like to try it out on my bike
@@mxgryan hhuummmm i may have to check em out ,i will google them and familiarise myself with them, we got a 09 530 with a 570 big bore kit with a rekluse clutch kit it's awesome how you can leave the clutch alone and still be able to take off in whatever gear or you can still fan it like a normal clutch if that's ya thing, cheers mate 👍
I think the device makes it so he can shift without letting off the throttle or use the clutch around 3:10 he looks down at his foot and it’s under the shifter
it slighty pauses the RPMs/Timing when it senses you shifting the lever, which from my experience is actually a disadvantage to guys like me (and others here) that don't let off the gas or touch the clutch when upshifting anyway. Honestly, if you upshift while going 10+mph from 2 to 3, 4, 5 without using clutch or letting off, just pop it up, you wont hurt the bike and you'll get a faster shift then this tech. I've only used on starts or when I've got arm pump in a long GP and don't want to be pulling in the clutch lever...try it.@@maxs4986
Hey I've been having an issue with my bike. It's an old KTM RFS motor and I just rebuilt the entire top end but the head gasket started leaking so I replaced it again and it's still leaking. Any idea what could be causing this?
@mxgryan why I've got a 2024 husky fe 350 pro and it won't shift when qs is on and it's under the pump from my right hand ,and at the price of them new its really giving me the shits
Maybe it’s just me, and I hate to be negative, but I just think quick shift is ridiculously stupid. I would much rather see 3 selectable maps (or something else) over QS.
For me, who already shifting gears without the clutch 90% of the time.. This is just icing on the cake.
Had a QS on my sportbike their game changers. Make riding/racing so much easier.
Definitely an advantage on the starting line. Maybe a bikes length by the first corner.
Have it on my 701 enduro. First QS I’ve ever had. Was short shifting in the beginning and it made for a rough ride, but now that I keep each gear longer the QS is buttery smooth.
Its so awesome on those bikes, and on the 790 890 its even sicker!
Pretty soon the dirt bike will do everything for you to where all you do is sit down and twist a throttle. The overall experience of banging gears, twisting the throttle and being on the clutch is fun and what’s it’s all about.
Dont forget the simplicity
You still have to shift man.
Lol it’s not like a quickshifter will make you go faster suddenly😂 Yes it’s a bit easier but i usually shift wide open and tap the clutch a little bit. It’s basically the same as quickshifting
At first, when I saw the thumbnail, I thought it was some sort of electric shift with upshift and downshift buttons.
That would be sick right!?!
If you had a thumb lever and a finger lever such like the MTN bikes. You wouldn’t want buttons say next to your kill switch. Up and down. You would have to reach up with your thumb. I feel that would put your hand at risk of being removed from the grip on a bump or something.
Same here!
This thing is sweet. I had it on KTM790R. Definitely something that makes sense to have on a dirtbike.
Pull in the clutch? i only ever use that for start and stops, never onced used it shifting while racing! and it never gave 1 problem either, My 2003 Troy Yamaha YZ125 i never used the cluth while already moving, and only let off half way to shift, and it was always so rock solid and never a problem, Im a Team Green guy but that was my favorite bike i ever owned!
same! I just posted my experiences "quick shifting", but I was never brave enough to do it from a start because you know how it makes that "BANG!" when go from stopped to 1st gear without a clutch. lol...at least when you're already in 2nd going like 15mph it's really smooth upshifting without a clutch.
guess I'd have to try it to understand because I've been "quick shifting" my bikes since 2003. No clutch, never letting off the gas just bang the shifter up a gear. I know a guy who did this on his CRF450Rs from neutral to first from a deadstop and high RPMs, then "quick shift"up through the gear box at Talladega. Think about that...I wouldn't do it, thought it would eventually rip apart the clutch/tranny. Never do it downshifting but going from 2 to 3rd to 4th and 5th...all-day, easy day. I keep all my race bikes to 80 hours, never had any trans issues either.
The quickshift duration can be adjusted, right?
I wondered what was meant by a quick shifter, but now I see it’s no different than what’s been used in dragracing for decades.
How does this compare on a snowbike kit vs not having the qs???
so i have the 2023 ktm 450 sxf and tried to use it and i was cruising in 2nd and then activated it and tried powering through and wouldnt shift how do i use it?
I cant wait to use it properly on my huskyfc350 23 , just getting used to the power a bike at min after a 09 yz250f also wanna try the traction control and launch control too
Does it work the same when downshifting? Even into first gear?
No and no.
“Kawi transmissions are garbage” I would agree, but I run golden spectro in my kdx 220R and with that oil it shifts like a dream, easily comparable to a Yamaha 2 stroke, I’d say I hit false neutrals more on a yz than my Kawasaki.
How you take care of things, and what you use in them will go a long way in the future…
I agree. With the right maintenance any machine will last. However Kawasaki and Suzuki have the worst "feeling" trans. Not even unreliable as they both are reliable but a KTM trans is just so smooth. Even Honda shifts are funny. Yamaha I have never ridden other than a TTR225 and that trans is hot garbage. Lol
@@nathanielostrowski2437 mine is an original 2003 kdx 220. Bought it a few years ago. The guy had it in storage, so all I did was put new graphics on it, rode it a little, then had the engine redone/checked out.
The whole key to that bike and ktm’s 2 strokes are the transmissions. That old Kawasaki is a 6 speed, and that is what makes the difference really. I still don’t get why even Yamaha doesn’t move the 250x to a 6 speed, it’s already a damn good bike, but that move alone would make a big difference
@@dementedspirit1359 haha I have a 99 KDX 220 and a 16 KTM 250 SX at the moment. Both are great bikes and I will agree with you. The 6th gear is so welcome. Lol. Wish I had the 16 as an XC but the SX is what I got. The KDX has always clicked in but loves it's random false neutral reality checks from time to time. Not dissing the KDX either as it is a great bike and a lovely bike for any skill but the trans has never impressed me. Always have ran Bel Ray 2t and Kawasaki trans oil since new. The KTM has been on Amsoil since my ownership
I always hit false neutrals on my gasgas. Never was a problem with my yamaha
@@jonathoncatterson8901 what exact bike? and going from what gear to gear does it happen most? I'm thinking of buying this bike just to eliminate false nuetrals cause I've had two bad crashes over last few years from false nuetrals and a few other close calls
That is actually so so cool. Is it easy to bump though?
This is sick !! 🔥🔥
I really dig it!
Do you keep it on 24/7?
Yup
whats your fav dirtbike brand?
Sounds like would help alot on 4strokes in racing mx. My old 2006 yz125 i could shift without clutch or backing off the throttle in races and you could hardly even hear revs change at all. Always up near top revs worked easiest. All my 2strokes since have been almost the same. Got 300 now and can do but don't have to change gears anywhere asmuch. 2nd and mostly 3rd most of time. After that your up around 100kmh, hard to go like that all day on single trails or mx track. I will have to have a go on couple of new 4stroke mx bikes from work and have a rip. Just have never ridden alot apart from few quick go's of mates bikes. But most of us ride the 2bangas as we're not racing. Avagud1 fella's
Until it starts Hessitating out of nowhere, Ya know the orange is finally growing on me a little, but back in the day the Black ones looked better, but neither as good looking as Green!.......Team Green ALWAYS!
I always power change on a dirt bike though 😐
Hmm... as much as I use the clutch, I hardly ever use it for shifting, up or down
Me either, but I let off the gas to take the load off the transmission.
Quick shift works really good but if you want to put a ecu you can’t use it.
good point, i didn't think of that yet
I’m getting the same bike and I don’t rlly understand how it works can you explain it to me plz? Like does it shift it self?
Sensor on the shift drum hesitates the ignition to take load off the transmission and allow it to shift.
@@mxgryan so I don’t rlly have to shift when accelerating?
@@chriscarignan7307 yeah of course you do.
@@mxgryan okok i was confused
I commented on the tiktok when you first announced this. And I retract my statement. It looks like a huge improvement on the early KTM street bike QS. Very impressive KTM.
Is their an auto blipper down?
Thanks Thomas! No there isn't, but that must be next on their list right? That was my favorite part about the street bikes.
@@mxgryan I think this is a great feature! If it remains reliable I would love to have one... I assume it requires some additional sensors that weren't there before, will see if the system remains reliable (which I assume KTM did their homework and it will hold up over time just fine :)). This system only works for UP SHIFTING? I assume that is what is meant above by "auto blipper down". Hopefully they will expand the system to work with shifting in both directions but since the "power" is sorta going through the transmission in the opposite direction on decel I'd imagine down shifting has some unique challenges. Do any street bikes have a similar function for both up and down shifts? I'd think for down shifts you would actually need to blip the throttle to increase engine RPM's to match the transmission i the next lower gear. Still pretty cool!
Old tech finally making it to the dirt world. My KTM 1290 SAR was awesome with quick shit. What's really fun is auto blip downshifts into a corner then WOT out of the corner on a street bike. HOLD ON. LOL
Can all the parts associated with the KTM quick shift be adapted to other makes, regardless of price to adapt to my ESR 325 YZ . . . I'd like to try it out on my bike
No it cannot!
Is it a on/off switch for the quick shift on the bar?
yeah
@@DeanPSX cool...thanks
You can put a Quickshifter on any bike...I have had it for 3 years on my KTM 450
Lol
So it's similar to a rekluse clutch kit basically?
No sir, nothing like the Rekluse!
@@mxgryan hhuummmm i may have to check em out ,i will google them and familiarise myself with them, we got a 09 530 with a 570 big bore kit with a rekluse clutch kit it's awesome how you can leave the clutch alone and still be able to take off in whatever gear or you can still fan it like a normal clutch if that's ya thing, cheers mate 👍
Thats interesting, so it just shifts for you past 2nd gear?
I think the device makes it so he can shift without letting off the throttle or use the clutch around 3:10 he looks down at his foot and it’s under the shifter
@@Lyokofn oh so just no clutch or throttle changes when shifting you just shift and no problem?
@@maxs4986 yeah it will probably be good for hard enduro guys when there hands are tired from using the clutch a break in the straight always
it slighty pauses the RPMs/Timing when it senses you shifting the lever, which from my experience is actually a disadvantage to guys like me (and others here) that don't let off the gas or touch the clutch when upshifting anyway. Honestly, if you upshift while going 10+mph from 2 to 3, 4, 5 without using clutch or letting off, just pop it up, you wont hurt the bike and you'll get a faster shift then this tech. I've only used on starts or when I've got arm pump in a long GP and don't want to be pulling in the clutch lever...try it.@@maxs4986
Is it availible aslo on 2-strokes ?
every 10th of every of a second adds up!
Hey I've been having an issue with my bike. It's an old KTM RFS motor and I just rebuilt the entire top end but the head gasket started leaking so I replaced it again and it's still leaking. Any idea what could be causing this?
That would mean something is warped!
@@mxgryan Welp, time to send it off to my mechanic and see if he can fix it! Thanks MXG I'll let you know how it goes!
Nice Review. Thanks.
Thanks for swinging by my channel Anthony!
Pretty cool 😎
I bought one. But quickshifter function does not works in my bike. I have a 2024 350 excf. Does anybody knows how to make it works?
It won't work on that bike
@@mxgryan but the ktm website anounces that works
@mxgryan why I've got a 2024 husky fe 350 pro and it won't shift when qs is on and it's under the pump from my right hand ,and at the price of them new its really giving me the shits
@@mxgryanwhy ?
@brianallison5699 its only for the mx bikes.
Wow that is crazy
I dig it John!
If only Honda would see the upgrades in todays world and bring back a 2 stroke maybe a 350
Honda is doing bad suspension is valved horrible and computer is tuned to bog out.
Support the company that builds what you want
Maybe it’s just me, and I hate to be negative, but I just think quick shift is ridiculously stupid. I would much rather see 3 selectable maps (or something else) over QS.
More electrical , more problem...
No
@@mxgryan realy ? Modern bike , no problem injection ? No problem battery why No kickstarter .🤔😉
Coming from street bikes that’s not impressive
Coming from dirtbikes, it's unprecedented.
@@mxgryan also not needed
@@ESHARDY08 I'll appreciate it anyway, it's feels great.
So basically an automatic? 🤔 making people lazier than they already are. No thanks, not for me.
No, nothing like that.