Renewable Baseload Power from a single desert location. Enough for 7 million homes!

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Baseload renewable power is the holy grail of our sustainable energy future and, according to some naysayers, an impossible dream. One UK company begs to differ, and they've just announced a £16 billion project that will be generating 3.6GW of solar, wind and battery capacity in South Morocco for an average of 20 hours a day, transmitted directly into the UK via subsea HVDC cables, by 2027. Could this be the most ambitious renewable energy project yet?
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  • @robertotomas
    @robertotomas 2 роки тому +53

    For once I have something to say! I just spent half a month in Casablanca, where I saw in the social media of that environment just how proud they are of their world class solar installations. It’s amazing and very much fulfilling to see globalization excelling like this :)

  • @SunsetNova
    @SunsetNova 2 роки тому +28

    Great to see Morocco and Great Britain collaborating like this 🇲🇦❤🇬🇧

    • @TheHorseshoePartyUK
      @TheHorseshoePartyUK Рік тому

      It really is! We are all Human, none of us are perfect to literally everyone else. Data indicates Most People Are Good. Only a tiny number of us around 1 in 100 to 1 in 20 are the worst.
      The absolute worst dictators arguably less than 1% throughout all human history! We have more in common that unites us than divides us. We all love a good meal, snack, and a good laugh!

    • @dianapennepacker6854
      @dianapennepacker6854 3 місяці тому

      This is a silly idea from a security standpoint.
      Seriously, when is Europe going to learn that not everything stays pretty? Morroco is fighting Islamic terrorists in the Sahara.
      Imagine getting a large portion of someone who can simply cut your grid off. Hold it hostage for diplomacy.
      Just saying. The world isn't as stable as peoples pipe dreams.

  • @rayane7708
    @rayane7708 2 роки тому +9

    Thanks for talking about North Africa .
    Morrocco has Noor PV too , 4 photovoltaic thermal power stations (560 MWc ).

  • @slash196
    @slash196 2 роки тому +2

    More HVDC line factories is a win no matter how you slice it. Once X-links is done, there will be other projects that badly need the capacity they can produce. This isn't just about one project, it's about building out the industries, capital and expertise to be able to do MANY such projects.

  • @michealoflaherty1265
    @michealoflaherty1265 2 роки тому +49

    I remember a German presenter, at an energy conference, stated that their models showed that, with interconnects, they could reach 70% renewables before needing storage.

    • @janami-dharmam
      @janami-dharmam 2 роки тому +5

      But it all depends on the network, most of the time the fault is with the network. In my country, in South Asia, it is always the fault of the network. Village people get power for 8-12 hours a day (most part) and that does not include the prime time.

    • @bazoo513
      @bazoo513 2 роки тому +11

      And yet, they don't even have sufficient capacity _within the country_ to transport wind power from the North to industrial South. The result is expensive electricity, rise of use of natural gas and even talks of reactivation of lignite mines.

    • @TerraPosse
      @TerraPosse 2 роки тому +4

      @@bazoo513 That's what a federal system a la USA will result in. Otherwise the solution to the internal imbalance of distribution would have long been addressed and the offshore wind farms could feed in all the energy they can produce rather than being paid for to stand idle. 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    • @Alexander_Kale
      @Alexander_Kale 2 роки тому +3

      According to the German IFO, you'd need about 11 TWh of storage at current electricity consumption levels for the least expensive combination of installed capacity/storage. On top of that, according to the same guys, 70 percent renewables without storage would mean you lose about 30 percent of your produced electricity.
      See here, at about the 30 min mark.
      ua-cam.com/video/_jBnhq8qnc4/v-deo.html
      At the moment, they have about 30 percent renewables, and they are running head first into the wall of problems that creates.
      And that's just for a country the size of Germany.

    • @weinisable
      @weinisable 2 роки тому +1

      @@Alexander_Kale Germany has 100% renewable capacity (100+GW installed capacity) , but due tto the usual crap efficiency of RE , they cannot exploit it.
      Also, most people would understand that interconnectors with other countries are effectively Storage.!

  • @banana1618
    @banana1618 2 роки тому

    excellent, clear, concise explanation of a briiliant idea.

  • @ricoma6037
    @ricoma6037 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your work from the US! Much appreciated!!!

  • @benlamprecht6414
    @benlamprecht6414 2 роки тому

    Thanks for excellent research and presentation

  • @samirr7181
    @samirr7181 2 роки тому +8

    Brilliant video! Sounds like a win win project for both sides.

  • @firstname4459
    @firstname4459 2 роки тому

    Good to hear there are other plans in the works

  • @danf4447
    @danf4447 Рік тому

    high speed wind loaded with sand blasts fiberglass huge blades with made with narrow tolerances. yeah that will work well

  • @SiSwitzer
    @SiSwitzer 2 роки тому +1

    What a phenomenal idea! This is indeed very hopeful for our future. Whilst the situation we find ourselves in as a species is pretty dire, it’s projects like this and the speed at which technology moves that give me hope🙌

  • @onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475
    @onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 2 роки тому +1

    Whoohoo!
    There's something good on T.V. 📺.
    Great way to start a weekend morning.

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 2 роки тому +1

      of topic but re your name: hide quickly if by air. Unless its from a balloon you can't outrun an airstrike...
      Even so, I do like it :)

  • @steverichmond7142
    @steverichmond7142 2 роки тому +4

    Do not depend on Hinckley point.. It was always an expensive disaster and it's nowhere near finished.... A lot of small power sources with battery storage are the answer

    • @murraycrichton2001
      @murraycrichton2001 2 роки тому +1

      Of course it's not finished, they only started building a few years ago.

    • @steverichmond7142
      @steverichmond7142 2 роки тому

      @@murraycrichton2001 It was started in 2018 and was originally intended to open in 2023 using construction techniques from Japan where a nuclear power plant of similar size took 39 months. I worked in the nuclear industry for many years in the UK and France and the whole thing will be a financial disaster. It should be stopped now... the costs are way out of control.

    • @murraycrichton2001
      @murraycrichton2001 2 роки тому

      @@steverichmond7142 I agree the place is a disaster. I know a lot of people will not work there.
      I have no problems with H&S, but some of the rules machine drivers have to deal with is actually dangerous. And the paperwork just for a roundabout to go in. Let's just say the manager couldn't see way we were pissing ourselves laughing at her.

    • @steverichmond7142
      @steverichmond7142 2 роки тому

      @@murraycrichton2001 I've been there many times with H&S especially working on BNFL sites. The contracts encourage delays and over-runs, and incompetent H&S is a perfect excuse.

  • @vladvostok1723
    @vladvostok1723 2 роки тому

    I AM IN.........KEEP THESE PROJECTS COMING!!!

  • @ns4235
    @ns4235 2 роки тому

    This is a great idea. Strategic concerns would have to be addressed though.

  • @khalidh3091
    @khalidh3091 2 роки тому +22

    It's really an incredible projet, I am from Morocco and we have heard a lot about it here. I hope the project will succeed and will not go the way of another similar project : Deserted a German initiated project which seems to have been canceled.

    • @notransfat1
      @notransfat1 2 роки тому

      I think you mean Desertec.

    • @khalidh3091
      @khalidh3091 2 роки тому +1

      @@notransfat1 Yes sorry, Desertec alas Gboard thought it was a better spelling but I didn't pay attention thanks 😃😃

    • @markzart33
      @markzart33 2 роки тому

      Yes we all hope so too, but take heart, Oil companies have to re-deploy their capital into renewables if they really are to become "Energy Companies" and this kind of money is not that hard to raise. We have a sligtly humerous saying here: " a billion here, a couple of billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money"

  • @xanokothe
    @xanokothe 2 роки тому +1

    My country (Brazil) is seeing as not ecofriendly because of news on deforestation in the amazon. But at least we have 83% of our energy from renewables (63.8% hydroelectric, 9.3% eolic, 8.9% biomass + biogas, 1.3% centralized solar). I think we can do even better with solar, and we can keep using hydroelectric as batteries. It feels to me that finally solar painels in Brazil have a fair cost, and with recent spikes in energy cost the return investment is less than 6 years

  • @adolfodef
    @adolfodef 2 роки тому +1

    00:58 Small mistake in the worldmap at south america: The -country- _region_ known as "Uruguay" is depicted as part of the "United States of Brazil".
    -> Actually, it should be the eastern argentinian province of *"Cisplatina"* .
    [Disregard any angry noises from other comments]

  • @vincentrobinette1507
    @vincentrobinette1507 2 роки тому

    Any time you can combine wind with solar, reduces the energy storage capacity necessary, for a given average load base. When one source can pick up, where the other left off, that's more hours of battery charging, and fewer hours of battery drain. I REALLY hope to see this project come to fruition, but, ALL THAT CABLE!!! They just need to make sure the cable is built with the over-capacity necessary, to allow for future expansion.

  • @RB-eg7mj
    @RB-eg7mj 2 роки тому +23

    This sounds so good, too good. It strikes me that this project ticks all the boxes, like they wrote it to appeal to all the big players. As always we want a knight in shinning armour to save us. Where as in reality the things that will truely make a difference don't grab headlines. What about an app that turns on your WM & DW when there is lots of green elec. Or maybe if we had a duel fuel elec & gas boiler that could soak up excess elec.

    • @b.6603
      @b.6603 2 роки тому +8

      Same sensation here. Running the HVDC cable directly to the UK instead of linking to the European grid and upgrading capacity to take it north is veeery sus.

    • @joe7272
      @joe7272 2 роки тому +1

      the only true way to store energy on a mass scale is similar to what technology connections did: cool your house when energy is cheap to offset the high costs when it heats up in the afternoon

    • @markmuir7338
      @markmuir7338 2 роки тому +2

      At 3.6GW, it's nowhere near enough to replace all the UK's base load (~20GW). So it's only part of the puzzle. Since the UK already has HVDC connections to Europe, the UK can sell excess capacity from this project to Europe. It seems sensible. But the cost sounds overly optimistic to me.

    • @robertweekley5926
      @robertweekley5926 2 роки тому +1

      @@joe7272 - Or, change from Pushing Heat Outside by using Traditional A/C, to sucking out that Heat, for Winter Storage, and Reuse!
      Or, somewhat simpler, use a series of Pipes, Buried jus an average of about 8 Feet down, with sufficient Length to allow air to cool to 10°C/50°F, to provide Cooling for our Homes! (I call this, for want of better terminology, "Low Grade Geothermal", since the biggest piece of machinery needed to Trench, could be a Common Backhoe!)
      Idea comes from "Citrus in Nebraska" UA-cam Video (s)!

    • @mm-qd1ho
      @mm-qd1ho 2 роки тому +2

      @@b.6603 This circumvents the EU-to-UK import duty on electrons

  • @dpg227
    @dpg227 2 роки тому

    I like hearing about projects like this.

  • @johndillon2456
    @johndillon2456 2 роки тому

    Sounds like the "San Sebastian Mines" from Atlas Shrugged...

  • @wlhgmk
    @wlhgmk 2 роки тому

    In a sense, energy storage is also in a cupboard full of clean dishes or clean clothes.

  • @satyr1349
    @satyr1349 2 роки тому

    Great video !

  • @timothylucie-smith5966
    @timothylucie-smith5966 2 роки тому +1

    It seems like a great idea technically and perhaps even financially. Morocco is today judged to be one of the most politically stable north african countries. However I still believe that political risk will be a major limiting factor. Putting a significant part of your source of energy offshore is a major political risk. The history of oil (eg UK/ Iran) is a case in point.

  • @V.Hansen.
    @V.Hansen. 2 роки тому

    Interesting solution for a country without a lot of its own sun. What’s frustrating is that in the US we have our own deserts and we aren’t using them.

  • @tedf1471
    @tedf1471 2 роки тому

    Your twinkling background nearly convinced me I had a migraine coming on - not good!

  • @Larry00000
    @Larry00000 2 роки тому

    We could use a lot more HVDC cable. One across the Bering Strait would connect most of us to continuous sunshine.

  • @jamiefox54
    @jamiefox54 2 роки тому

    Awesome, love it! Great news. Yes, a few downsides but overall delighted.

  • @ZigZagHockey
    @ZigZagHockey 2 роки тому +1

    It is beyond ironic that a nuclear power plant is being closed down - the safest and most energy dense form of power for the supply of electricity there is - and the site is going to be used as a manufacturing point for cables.
    I wonder if in going this route (solar and wind) we are overlooking the research Tesla did into the generation of electricity by the earth itself. Cost was always an inhibiting factor there, because of the scale of such endevours, but the sums being spent on this project seem to be of a similar order.
    Morocco also has night-time and the wind is not as productive as solar, so it seems plausible that places )two or three) that are in sunlight when Morocco is dark could be networked to obtain a continuous supply of solar power. If we track around the globe at that latitude where else is suitable - i.e. politically stable?

  • @0HOON0
    @0HOON0 2 роки тому +1

    Transmission losses will take away much of the advantage of Morocco's sunny climate. Seems like we'd be better off over-buillding local wind/PV/ nuclear generation than sourcing power from thousands of miles away.

    • @derradfahrer5029
      @derradfahrer5029 2 роки тому

      Well with all the NIMBYS it is probably more economically to accept the transmission losses; which are also not thaaat much using high voltage direct current transmission line.

    • @lofturhjalmarsson9896
      @lofturhjalmarsson9896 2 роки тому

      they just build a bigger plant then

  • @Alrukitaf
    @Alrukitaf 2 роки тому +1

    When “Just have a think” says “game changer” I listen up.

  • @martinstent5339
    @martinstent5339 2 роки тому

    Suggestion: Buy up 4 or 5 used container ships and put the cable factories on board. That way you'll have the cables where you need them and save on transport.

  • @marvintpandroid2213
    @marvintpandroid2213 2 роки тому +1

    The problem is the distance that the energy is available to where it is required and the fact that its in another country that is not known for its political stability.

    • @IgnacioMartin
      @IgnacioMartin 2 роки тому

      Morocco is the most politically stable country in northern Africa, but I hope that this project doesn't dodge the issue that the Western Sahara is illegally occupied by Morocco.

    • @marvintpandroid2213
      @marvintpandroid2213 2 роки тому

      @@IgnacioMartin it's a relatively stable country for the region but that isn't saying much.
      If I were running a country and needed to drum up some political support it would be so easy to blackmail the UK into paying large amounts of money to keep the lights on.

  • @mojoneko8303
    @mojoneko8303 2 роки тому

    I figure the more diverse the grid is the more reliable it will be.

  • @ericrawson2909
    @ericrawson2909 2 роки тому

    I read about ten years ago about the possibility of a dc worldwide supergrid with desert area generation. This revolution could have started back then. Instead we have had a decade of media telling us how awful we are and doing stupid things like scrapping perfectly good cars to replace them with stinking diesels belching out carcinogens. This project is an exceedingly rare occasion when I see a proposal and think it is sensible. My only concern is the possibility of being held to ransom by Morocco.

  • @duckndive.
    @duckndive. 2 роки тому

    Great ideas. IF, country,s did not use that supply of energy to gain some control of a country,s affairs ie: France over the UK recently.

  • @markgwynneth5657
    @markgwynneth5657 2 роки тому

    Thank you Dave. Wonderful to see solar being implemented, but l also question why is it not integrated with the European grid, thus saving all that undersea cable? Also, please bear in mind that all this effort will only supply 8% of UK electricity! As vehicles gradually change from liquid fuel to electric, this percentage will be reduced many fold. Similar for the China example, and 26 million people is only 1/55 of China’s population! We all need to learn that we need to drastically reduce the amount of energy we consume.

  • @blackoak4978
    @blackoak4978 2 роки тому

    I think that, like just about everything else, you can't get away with just one solution.
    I think we need large installations like this, but we also need a distributed network of production.
    I think every house should have wind and solar included and hooked up to a smart network that also includes large installations

  • @johnsiegfried
    @johnsiegfried 2 роки тому

    Change the energy produced in the Morocco solar field to hydrogen and pipe it to England. There is some loss in the conversion so increase the size of the solar field. (there is substantial loss due to Ohm's law using electricity).

  • @mohannair5671
    @mohannair5671 2 роки тому

    Perhaps, the Moroccan output can be exoanded@10percent annually and the result be offered to countries enroute to bring do we n transmission liosses and associated costs?

  • @66block84
    @66block84 2 роки тому

    IF the building codes here in the U.S. were updated to require all new houses have at least 2KW of solar on a South facing roof and possibly a vertical axis windmill, then power generation would be everywhere over time & mostly accepted. There will always be naysayers. Other upgrades to building codes could help. Triple pane windows, hore insulation etc.

  • @briannjoroge2344
    @briannjoroge2344 2 роки тому

    the British coming to Africa to extract resources for their own use.. This has obviously never happened before in history! What are the benefits for the local people? Who gets the money after the electricity reaches the UK?

  • @jennyduncan11
    @jennyduncan11 Рік тому

    I am a one-hundred-percent supporter of solar and wind.
    But I wonder if this project is really sensible?
    Investing in all that infrastructure in another country and paying the transport that power that great distance. All to provide power to 7 million homes??
    By the time this project is finished the UK's power consumption may have increased by that amount.
    Perhaps molten-salt nuclear power generators make more sense right now. (Not saying I'm a fan of nuclear, but does it make the most sense? Right now?)

  • @danbenson7587
    @danbenson7587 2 роки тому

    If one just has a think, renewables bet on the climate. So the paradox of countering climate change with renewables that bet on the climate....what could possibly go wrong?

  • @numikonomel
    @numikonomel 2 роки тому

    Huuuge like for the video.
    One little remark though: world map on the first minute looks a little odd :D Few examples (Unified Korea, Russian Japan, Azov Sea is a country).

  • @tonyking2030
    @tonyking2030 2 роки тому

    Brilliant video.......when think the current government spent at least £37 billion on track & trace that puts a scheme like this into the realms of reality....just need a competent government to get it going ASAP!

  • @bobmciver6437
    @bobmciver6437 2 роки тому

    Isn't this creating a massive trade deficit for the U.K.?Also recovering the cost of the cable implies one very long term contract and geopolitical uncertainties.

  • @Jim-si7wz
    @Jim-si7wz 2 роки тому

    oh look they are building right next to the current, look to the left.

  • @christophercampbell5912
    @christophercampbell5912 2 роки тому

    I offer out here in cathedral City California a 1.4 GHz per rotation off of free wind turbine energy by a 12 volt single phase wind turbine by taking 10 wind turbines at 3 in by inch and a quarter in diameter putting them on horseshoes around the steel pole to make a total of 10 12 volt wind turbines on each set then I take 50 cents and put it on 100 ft Pole so 50 times 10 is what 500 12v wind turbines per 100' Pole. So that that 100 ft pool pumps out 68 million volts now your times that by 8,000 poles and a quarter mile stretch down the train track out here in cathedral City California it pump out 1.4 GHz per rotation with 100,000 rotation. I appreciate that the units would have to be replaced every 2 months because of the 100,000 rotation on it would be eating up out here in cathedral City because we have 300 days of windy conditions and we have 6 to 10 trains six times a day 7 days a week out here on this fast

  • @michaeljames5936
    @michaeljames5936 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, thanks. I've been struggling to see why there hasn't been more emphasis on this as a solution, for some time. Would it have been better if this had been put into a European super-grid? Regardless, this is really heartening and a host of countries at the same latitude, could each have their own cables running north. (You know. Like oil pipelines, but less leaky.)

  • @michaelvadney5803
    @michaelvadney5803 2 роки тому +2

    Question: When using such large fields of photovoltaics does the dark color of each panel draw in more heat and eventually raise the temp in the area?
    Thanks.

    • @boncholio
      @boncholio 2 роки тому +2

      I'm also wondering what effect this can have. anyone? :)

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 2 роки тому +1

      No. The energy in the sunlight gets both abosorbed and reflected by the sand, at present. That which is absorbed gets released as heat overnight and helps to power those windmills in their sunset surge of wind power.
      With these solar panels in place, actually less heat is reflected, and less is absorbed. The "missing" heat is turned into electricity.
      We might expect a small drop in the heating effect overall, not an increase.
      My question therefore is whether there is a point at which too many solar panels over the entire Sahara might reduce the wind power -- but looking at the size of the Sahara (bigger than the US) vs the size of one project (about the size of London) we are a long way from that. At the moment.

    • @michaelvadney5803
      @michaelvadney5803 2 роки тому

      If the heat is absorbed by the dark solar panels then its not reflected back out. Shouldn't that raise temperatures? A dark object gets hotter in the sun than a light colored object I thought?
      I guess that I'm missing something here.

    • @malcolmrose3361
      @malcolmrose3361 2 роки тому +1

      They do - the warm air rises (carrying any moisture with it) until the air becomes cold enough that it can't retain the moisture anymore, and it rains somewhere else.

  • @DavidSmith-kv8li
    @DavidSmith-kv8li 2 роки тому

    My only concern is one of security of supply. We are increasingly dependant on other countries for energy, Russia for gas and electricity through France and now Norway. During peaceful relations that is fine but what would happen if these other nations decided to cut of the supply?

    • @TheMagicJIZZ
      @TheMagicJIZZ 2 роки тому

      The sun is negotiating with us now?

    • @TheMagicJIZZ
      @TheMagicJIZZ 2 роки тому

      The royal navy will bomb them obviously

    • @DavidSmith-kv8li
      @DavidSmith-kv8li 2 роки тому

      @@TheMagicJIZZ that is if we have a Royal Navy left.
      Seriously, I throw a spanner in the works. I sometimes wonder if climate change is happening too fast for it just to be man made.
      I ask a simple question, how many of us are prepared to give up our polluting habits? Will we give up our plastic smart phones, plastic TV's, plastic cars, trains, busses and aircraft. Just take a look around your home and remove all those items made from oil. Now throw them all away and get on with your life.
      Are we really ready to take it seriously?

  • @TG-lp9vi
    @TG-lp9vi 2 роки тому

    The way one sends energy around the world is by shipping Hydrogen or Ammonia as we now do. Hydrogen is the only answer to storing energy from Solar and wind and other low carbon sources like Hydro and thermal. How much carbon Is produced in making the very large copper cables and how long will they last?

  • @tomkelly8827
    @tomkelly8827 2 роки тому

    If you ran that cable over to Canada, we could provide you with a plethora of baseload hydro power. Also Iceland is right there. The project seems like a good peace time plan but if it were war time, that would be a very easy lifeline to cut for an unhappy foe.
    Baseload power is not something I think of as a good thing to import. Then there will be solar wars instead of oil wars.

  • @wskinnyodden
    @wskinnyodden 2 роки тому

    Nuclear needs to be part of the equation, but crucially we must abandon high pressure light water reactors, we must move to Molten Salt Reactors, in particular the ones that can take the old reactors waste as fuel and make it much safer (100's of years at worse instead of 1000's)

    • @wskinnyodden
      @wskinnyodden 2 роки тому

      Which should also reduce the cost of fuelling such reactors may I add.

  • @thomaskerkhoff579
    @thomaskerkhoff579 2 роки тому

    A primary concern for me is the reliance upon governmental stability, and requisite international cooperation, in such a project across time to ensure stable UK baseload grid support. Secondarily, does a portion of the energy generation support Morrocco's grid stability and potential expansion?

  • @piccalillipit9211
    @piccalillipit9211 2 роки тому

    *PLEASE DO A VIDEO* on why they use Ultra High Voltage DC instead of AC as normal transmission lines are...
    Cos we are all taught at school that the losses in transmitting the DC was why Westinghouse wone out over Edison.

    • @colinwhittaker4557
      @colinwhittaker4557 2 роки тому

      High voltage dc avoids losses like high voltage ac and has the advantage of not requiring the grids at each end being insync.

    • @JustHaveaThink
      @JustHaveaThink  2 роки тому

      Here's an explainer video I did a while back
      ua-cam.com/video/rThkjp-bp8M/v-deo.html
      The main explanation starts at about 5:00

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 2 роки тому

      @@JustHaveaThink - THANK YOU...!!!

  • @clmdcc
    @clmdcc 2 роки тому

    Is it just me or would it not make more sense to have just borrow some off the capacity from the European super grid which already stretches from Morocco to the UK, rather than making the most extreme Under sea cable.
    Or make a shorter cable to Iceland and get some of that base load renewable geothermal power?

  • @thesilentone4024
    @thesilentone4024 2 роки тому +1

    Thoughts on top 7 different grow lights and how much energy they use.
    We got Sulphur plasma lights and led lights mybe a high pressure Sodium lights.
    Resone to see how far we came along and how efficient are they do we need to mix lights and how hot do they get.

    • @truetech4158
      @truetech4158 2 роки тому

      Bioluminesence is interesting at a low low electron price.

    • @thesilentone4024
      @thesilentone4024 2 роки тому

      @@truetech4158 like living flying lights or plants that make there own.
      Definitely sounds like fun kinda wonder the intensity and the spectrum of light.

  • @daviddunn2297
    @daviddunn2297 2 роки тому

    We still seem to just exploit the planets natural resources without any consideration on nature and ecosystems being impacted!

  • @ventcurtisburkett532
    @ventcurtisburkett532 2 роки тому

    Why would Morocco send its wind solar energy to the UK when Spain and the EU energy grid is literally next door. Libya and Algeria are relatively close to France and Italy and have plenty of deserts for this kind of every plant. Producing energy in south Morocco and sending it to the UK seems silly. Underwater pipelines fail way too often, so how save would thousands of kilometers of high voltage cable be?

  • @SolwiseMD
    @SolwiseMD 2 роки тому +1

    I've heard of using superconductors for distribution as an alternative to high-voltage. Hey it could be completely loss-less! How about a show about the current state of play with this technology? Could we rap super-conducting cable around the equator with branches heading north and south as required? Sounds like a 24 hr base-load carbon-free grid to me.

    • @koenwerf84
      @koenwerf84 2 роки тому

      i think its problematic because of the need to cool superconductors to a couple of degrees Kelvin. Room temperature superconductors would be a great help though. Or a miracle.

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 2 роки тому

      Lossless as regards the cable. But then you factor in the energy used in cooling the cable...

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 2 роки тому

      @@koenwerf84 couple of degrees Kelvin is exaggerating (or very out of date). Many superconductors are within reach of liquid Nitrogen 77K (-190C / -320F)
      The record is around 150K (-120C / 190F ) at normal pressures, and "warmer" still at stupidly high pressures.
      But keeping a long cable that cool under water for thousands of miles would be a bit of an issue...

  • @TedToal_TedToal
    @TedToal_TedToal 2 роки тому

    Is the long distance cable superconducting? Does it use copper? Any problem getting the material to make it?
    Will wind turbines be placed interspersed among the solar panels?

  • @hg60justice
    @hg60justice 2 роки тому +1

    to expensive of infrastructure to deliver it.
    geothermal with our drilling tech can go anywhere, foregoing those expensive cables to deliver power.
    geothermal could be put right out in the subdivisions where needed.
    not across the country.

  • @YS-cs8yq
    @YS-cs8yq 2 роки тому +1

    Why not move some of the heavy electric consuming industry to North Africa if they can have cheap electric there.
    Saves building a long cable costing billions.
    Offcourse you can still build the cable for other electric uses in the UK .

    • @lofturhjalmarsson9896
      @lofturhjalmarsson9896 2 роки тому

      ok...what uk industry uses much power

    • @YS-cs8yq
      @YS-cs8yq 2 роки тому

      @@lofturhjalmarsson9896 use cheap electricity to make hydrogen fuel then use it in this country.

  • @furd8883
    @furd8883 2 роки тому

    Can anyone tell me why we are trying to use photovoltaic panels for large power plants and not molten salt solar thermal plants? Aren't solar panels rare, expensive, and hard to make?

  • @daviddunn2297
    @daviddunn2297 2 роки тому

    What data is there about the loss of land, turning it into a glass desert!
    What effect is this having on local and continental climates?

  • @TheHorizon3000
    @TheHorizon3000 Рік тому

    Québec Will provide you whit clean electricity if you pay your cable

  • @inotaarto8719
    @inotaarto8719 2 роки тому

    7 million, we need it for 7 billions and we needed it yesterday... Peace be on all of you 🕊️ Jesus is the Way

  • @franksanford3126
    @franksanford3126 2 роки тому

    can you look at how much the base load would need to be to support say 70 to 80 percent if of petrol cars and trucks were replaced with electric?

  • @joeyjennings9548
    @joeyjennings9548 2 роки тому

    with many things not addressed that can go wrong i wonder if its cheaper to have solar powered battery ships making the trip to ports to power areas charged from that central location?

  • @andreaswickman1508
    @andreaswickman1508 2 роки тому +1

    Or we just go all out on nuclear and we are done. Max power 24/7 and 90% real power capacity compared to 20-30% for sun and wind

  • @hangglider1979
    @hangglider1979 2 роки тому +2

    I like the concept but fear the, cost, potential political friction and its vulnerability, with it being so far away. I prefer using the idea of using Liquid Air Energy Storage (LAES) using the likes of a British company, Highview Power, with everything being positioned within our own borders and independently controlled. It is already a proven concept, can be commissioned now and is expandable according to need.

    • @Makatea
      @Makatea 2 роки тому +1

      That's only storage, what we need is power generation before there's anything to be stored.

    • @hangglider1979
      @hangglider1979 2 роки тому +1

      @@Makatea I wasn't clear. I was assuming an expanded national wind and solar capability coupled with energy storage to meet our needs.

  • @Feelthefx
    @Feelthefx 2 роки тому +1

    This is a great channel and I love your videos ls but renewable is just another word for energy crisis, unfortunately.

  • @Myrddnn
    @Myrddnn 2 роки тому

    Big bladed wind turbines set high up are simply not practical, especially when several better options for harnessing wind are available. I am pretty sure you have covered them at some point.
    Another problem that is a bit depressing to realize that as good as 8% of the UK's load is covered by this installation, that leaves 92% left to cover. Or, in other words, just do that a dozen times and the UK will be covered. With the constant moving currents just off shore of of the UK itself, wouldn't it be smarter to make a few sea energy farms there?

    • @ps.2
      @ps.2 2 роки тому

      There are dozens of clever designs for wind energy but, as it turns out, none of them are as efficient or practical as those horizontal axis turbines on tall towers. An eye-opener: Rosie's recent video about "new" wind designs. Spoiler: all these "new" ideas are described in a book that is now decades old. ua-cam.com/video/6vb18oXPli4/v-deo.html

  • @rayshepherd2479
    @rayshepherd2479 2 роки тому

    What is the difference in summer versus winter output? It appears it would be twice as much in the summer as the winter. If so how does that affect the project?

  • @AllSectorsHearThis
    @AllSectorsHearThis 2 роки тому

    I would still like to see more regional solutions. What ever happened to Luna Tech's deep sea ocean current modular generators as well. I guess juristiction could be an issue. But isn't it also an issue with deep sea cables between countries?

  • @kingjames4886
    @kingjames4886 2 роки тому

    tesla developed ways to transmit energy long distances without wires hundreds of years ago... it's just hard to figure out how much is being consumed and charge people accordingly so wires.

    • @cncshrops
      @cncshrops 2 роки тому

      No, he really didn't.

  • @paulhaynes8045
    @paulhaynes8045 2 роки тому

    Very interesting - I knew nothing about any of this (how often do I write that on this channel?!). Whilst it obviously makes sense for a country with loads of solar and wind to sell electricity to other countries that need more than they can make, I do have concerns about this. In an ideal world it would be fine, but our world is far from ideal. In reality, this makes us horribly vulnerable - both from potential future blackmail from the supplier country (who may not always be our friend) and from sabotage of the cable in a war or similar situation. The oil crisis of the 70s and current gas price crisis illustrate just how dangerous it is to be dependent on importing energy. Alongside sustainability, our primary goal in energy production should be self-sufficiency.

    • @stevepirie8130
      @stevepirie8130 2 роки тому

      Look at the price hike caused this year by Russia reducing gas exports available (they had every right to). The EU and China have been rush buying any they can lay hands on like from the Middle East affecting many nations who don’t rely on Russian gas.
      When Iran was laying sea mines and attacking oil tankers in the 80s it forced the world to look elsewhere for oil.
      If building massive projects in N Africa help those nations to develop that can’t be a bad thing. They’d be selling free energy from the sun rather than drilling our planet for gas or oil. If it’s big money they’ll protect it. If it makes their countries powerful like Saudi, Russia, USA, etc, then so be it. They have something we want so it’s right we pay for it.

  • @dieselhead24
    @dieselhead24 2 роки тому

    Dave, Dave, I love you but we only have 14 years to save the Earth!!

  • @Andy-ci9ky
    @Andy-ci9ky 2 роки тому

    Relying on a North African nation to keep the lights on is a worry. Morocco has a stable government right now, but what about in 10 years? Look at Libya!
    Modular reactors should be in the mix too.

  • @adolfodef
    @adolfodef 2 роки тому +1

    The real question is... would the British Empire colonize Morocco? (just in case)
    Or would they prefer to keep them on a leash? (do not touch the cables... or else!)

    • @TheMagicJIZZ
      @TheMagicJIZZ 2 роки тому

      Well the royal navy will obviously visiting Morocco a lot more to defend its shared asset

  • @chubbymoth5810
    @chubbymoth5810 2 роки тому

    Very optimistic view. I doubt however, that rolling out a cable to the UK coast will be straightforward. As long as the UK is in breach of international agreements and keeps provoking trouble in NI. this project is technically viable, but politically impossible.

  • @stephenpahl7538
    @stephenpahl7538 2 роки тому

    Humans populations with panic response tend to over shot their goals to problems, SO how will social/economic condition respond to having energy produced beyond our needs and available to the poorest and the remotest.

  • @philleggitt3005
    @philleggitt3005 2 роки тому

    So we rely on Russia for gas Morroco for lecey, what could go wrong with UK power supply???

  • @lesroberts2244
    @lesroberts2244 2 роки тому

    What's wrong with the tides.

  • @johnnylasalle130
    @johnnylasalle130 2 роки тому

    Have any of you heard of regeneration power of elevator lift systems? An extremely underutilized tech

  • @yassinebenryan2814
    @yassinebenryan2814 2 роки тому +22

    We are happy to work with the uk on this one. Love from morocco

    • @Debkah
      @Debkah 2 роки тому

      Skot al3abd , sidek li ghadi khdem witkheles ach dekhel 7martek nta.

    • @yassinebenryan2814
      @yassinebenryan2814 2 роки тому

      @@Debkah ??

    • @KGopidas
      @KGopidas 2 місяці тому

      Wish the project an early success on schedule, within budget snd infinite trouble free operation life?

  • @markgilder9990
    @markgilder9990 2 роки тому +85

    Your'er such a good presenter. I"m surprised some TV channel hasn't snapped you up for their shows. As ever, a revelation finding this channel with such great content. I'm gradually working my way through the vids which are just the right length with enough information and content to make you start to do your own research. You must spend hours reading and researching and recording and editing.
    Xlink, who would have guessed this was even possible.

    • @JustHaveaThink
      @JustHaveaThink  2 роки тому +21

      Thanks Mark. I really appreciate your words of encouragement :-)

    • @MadMadOne
      @MadMadOne 2 роки тому +4

      Haha, tv channels usually get news from the board/CEO. They don't want him.

    • @donnamarie3617
      @donnamarie3617 2 роки тому +2

      Mark, they could not afford him!

    • @dac545j
      @dac545j 2 роки тому

      @@MadMadOne Your name says it all.

    • @Tim_van_de_Leur
      @Tim_van_de_Leur 2 роки тому

      tv is dead, just stay here

  • @herlescraft
    @herlescraft 2 роки тому +36

    if only there was a continent between marocco and the UK with wich to share a power grid for better grid stability and baseload... oh wait.

    • @nickboylen6873
      @nickboylen6873 2 роки тому +2

      If only that continent didn’t wish to harm the UK and wasn’t threatening to cut off existing power supplies…

    • @olivierb9716
      @olivierb9716 2 роки тому +1

      @@nickboylen6873 because marocco can't threatening uk ?? and, for you information, eu provides a lot of electricity for uk.

    • @nickboylen6873
      @nickboylen6873 2 роки тому +5

      @@olivierb9716, I was referring to the EU and, most specifically, France. I think Morocco would be a good partner. The EU does sell power to the UK, but Macron and Baune keep threatening the UK and Jersey with cuts, and so did Ireland against a background of other threats and blockades.

    • @simon7790
      @simon7790 2 роки тому +2

      We already have many Interconnectors. We buy nuclear electricity from France, Hydro from Norway, wind from the Netherlands, and probably Denmark too in future. There's also interconnectors with Belgium and Ireland. So adding one for solar from Morocco and maybe geothermal from Iceland would mitigate supply risks further.

    • @herlescraft
      @herlescraft 2 роки тому +3

      @@nickboylen6873 if only the UK could be bothered to not break international law, have amicable relations with it's largest trading partner and not seek trade wars every time the opportunity present it's self.

  • @offgridwanabe
    @offgridwanabe 2 роки тому +78

    When your energy comes from another country you better hope they stay friendly and are not captured by new political intent.

    • @lis0028
      @lis0028 2 роки тому +21

      Like gas from russia

    • @davidwatson2399
      @davidwatson2399 2 роки тому +16

      @@lis0028
      Or oil from ---------

    • @mantabletin935
      @mantabletin935 2 роки тому +10

      Don't worry, Morocco will be as reliable friend as Russia ;-)

    • @Makatea
      @Makatea 2 роки тому +4

      Morocco still having close ties to the former colonial power France, you Brexiteers better get those fishing and Northern Ireland disputes sorted, otherwise this great idea might very well run afoul of UKs failed policies.

    • @ingridschmid1709
      @ingridschmid1709 2 роки тому +5

      @@Makatea Lots of ties remain although I wouldn't overstate their importance , I do not believe Morocco has such prejudice against the UK and anyways could pretty fast divest the generated power towards other clients should relations sour for an unforeseeable reason
      The main trouble with this endeavour I can think of is that such concentrated mega power links are in essence fragile as was shown with the accidental partial breakdown of the 2000 Megawatt trans-channel link .
      I haven't seen any Brexiteers on this thread so why are you so gratuitously trolling ?

  • @marcm.
    @marcm. 2 роки тому +18

    I have for nearly 20 years, been advocating for something like this, for the USA. Especially, from southwest to northeast. The 3 hour difference would work very well in this case, and if done right, as the swing in use crosses across the country, the system could maintain a near 100% production, to supply the different regions, at their highest use.... It is sad that the USA is no longer the leader in think big

    • @JustHaveaThink
      @JustHaveaThink  2 роки тому +5

      One day Marc. One day :-)

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah. In retrospect it is daft that the two main North American grids are ligned North-South rather than East-West. Even before solar power became a thing, having East-West grids would have distributed the demand better.
      However, when you realise that the geography drove that design (including how to get power across the Rockies) it did make sense at the time.

    • @mohannair5671
      @mohannair5671 2 роки тому

      Wish you all the very best for an early success.

    • @fancyIOP
      @fancyIOP Рік тому +1

      But it's great for those countries who have never lead in history, we are seeing them as modern rising stars.

    • @dianapennepacker6854
      @dianapennepacker6854 3 місяці тому

      Has Europe or UK not learned after Russia that relying on others for your energy needs is not a great idea? This is rubbish.
      The world is not stable. This will force the UK to need to back a Monarchy that isn't completely stable. They are fighting Muslim terrorists in the Western Sarhara. They just had a rebellion during the Arab Spring. They have a portion of their population that does not like the West. North Africa as a whole has extremism spreading or dictators.
      One of the greatest things about renewabls is that it is a way for the West to disconnect from all the chaos of geopolitics. Without having to get intertwined with unsavory actors, or keep people in power.
      Having a third of your power being vulnerable in multiple ways due to having a pipe dream that all is okay is just foolish.
      Even if renewables is more expensive in your area it is worth every penny to have it in your backyard.
      Oh PS. I am from the future. The project has already gone up to 25% more. I'm sure this won't be the last price hike before completion.

  • @douglaslaurents3735
    @douglaslaurents3735 2 роки тому +5

    I like your program very much. For this one on the UK / Morrocco cable, however, there are two big concerns you didnt mention. First is you are putting yourself in the hands of the government of Morrocco.. second, un the map you showed, the cable would run through waters that are the exclusive economic zones of Portugal, Spain and France.

    • @robbrookes4889
      @robbrookes4889 2 роки тому

      Shouldn't we be looking at the world. The world gains 10 GW of renewables and has to recognise we are all interdependent on each other. . Brilliant imv. Cost is miniscule compared to trillions on arms. Lets do lots more renewables and much less killing.

    • @catinthehat906
      @catinthehat906 2 роки тому +1

      My thought exactly, what is to stop an Islamic terror group shutting down the cable once we become dependent on that power. The whole "lets use the Sahara" argument ignores the fact this is one of the most politically unstable parts of the entire globe. Just look at the current spat between Morocco and Algeria over gas transfers between the two.

  • @r.ladaria135
    @r.ladaria135 2 роки тому +8

    Sadly, the people in the kingdom of Morocco is really poor. Every day they risk they lives to reach Europe. But the king and very few are obscene rich. The Monarchy could blow up like Iran in the 70' .

    • @lofturhjalmarsson9896
      @lofturhjalmarsson9896 2 роки тому

      yea this is a main point l guess, a revolution could make the solar farm useless, unless there was like a nato army to guard it or could come to it on a short notice , but then must be willing to shoot men dead who approach , and will the moreroccococko public like the new solar plant if this is the plan....and if they shot men what will buddies do , fire bombs up in air that land on the plant , so perimeter of guarding it must be how wery big.so better in a place with nobody living and l guess that is in disputed land south of morocco is it called west sahara.

    • @christianlibertarian5488
      @christianlibertarian5488 2 роки тому

      This would help mitigate that issue. But yeah, you are right.

    • @r.ladaria135
      @r.ladaria135 2 роки тому

      @@lofturhjalmarsson9896 Well in fact there is an ongoing war just there in the west Sahara.

    • @carlpodrecca5177
      @carlpodrecca5177 2 роки тому

      @ R. Ladaria it is sad Morocco has some of the most medicinally potent olive oil in the world all the people should be prosperous. Just have to check who keeps a shit head dicKtator in power? Hhhmm let’s see .....

    • @TheMagicJIZZ
      @TheMagicJIZZ 2 роки тому

      @@lofturhjalmarsson9896 why would the Moroccan People do that? It's gonna provide them solar jobs

  • @spinnetti
    @spinnetti 2 роки тому +7

    Seems really an inefficient method - why not send the power to Spain and work it through the grid?

    • @itekani
      @itekani 2 роки тому

      I don't think there's an extra couple of gigawatts capacity in the grid just waiting to be used...

    • @TheMagicJIZZ
      @TheMagicJIZZ 2 роки тому

      Yeah Spain...lmao who's a enemy of the UK? That wants to seize Gibraltar and doesn't even recognize it?
      Unless you want UK to pay a annual payment and buy land in Spain?

    •  2 роки тому +1

      The entire grid between "here" and "there" would really absorb most of the capacity. The current would simply run towards wherever the highest price is at the moment, but still the amounts of transmission needed to alleviate for seasonal storage and intermittent renewable is sort of staggering. So this is drop in the ocean more or less.
      Also, transferring via the regular grid all the way would incure insane losses in this case. HVDC has much lower loss for long distances, but it will still be far from lossless with a line this long.

  • @paulwilhelmsen6586
    @paulwilhelmsen6586 2 роки тому +62

    I woke up early on my day off, and literally couldn’t fall back asleep cause I was thinking “doesn’t Just Have A Think come out on sundays…?”
    So much for sleeping in :)

    • @joe7272
      @joe7272 2 роки тому +1

      The day of the holy video!

    • @Utubedarr
      @Utubedarr 2 роки тому +1

      Paul, You really need a life, bro...

    • @paulwilhelmsen6586
      @paulwilhelmsen6586 2 роки тому +1

      @@Utubedarr you’re not wrong.

  • @trentclark77
    @trentclark77 2 роки тому +135

    These types of projects are amazing. Hopefully they'll expand to the point there's so much abundance of electricity that electrolysis/green hydrogen becomes cheap. I'm starting to become a little optimistic in seeing a world where even heavy industries and transport become green. Exciting times for certain.

    • @onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475
      @onebylandtwoifbysearunifby5475 2 роки тому +16

      Yes, as long as Chevron and Shell and Exxon don't derail Green hydrogen with their "Blue" hydrogen scam. ("Black & Blue" hydrogen is more like it.) They're willing to assassinate indigenous environmental justice leaders and Senators- there's nothing they won't do to keep their profits.

    • @fabp.2114
      @fabp.2114 2 роки тому +5

      I hope so much. The whole world is out of joint and so many subsystems are transforming in mostly unpredictable ways, I see more and more often only the choice between paradise and apocalypse. But that is surely a simplification. Anyway, the vision of a green technology revolution and a sustainable society is indeed taking more and more shape. It's a bit as if you have to put the startled world population in the play corner in kindergarten, show them all the great things around them and what they could possibly do with them by gently patting them on the head: "Look, it's all good". Cautious optimism is in order.

    • @chasindigo
      @chasindigo 2 роки тому +4

      Green hydrogen is a scam, just use the electric that is generated.

    • @MarkkuS
      @MarkkuS 2 роки тому +12

      @Horseshoe Party You have a problem, please consult a therapist.

    • @fabp.2114
      @fabp.2114 2 роки тому +7

      @Horseshoe Party wtf

  • @frankbrindle8598
    @frankbrindle8598 2 роки тому +27

    Another great video. Projects like this one need to be chased aggressively by all nations, to ensure that we can survive our occupation of this planet. Keep it up please. You are doing great work for a most noble cause - The future successful existence of humans on planet Earth, through education.

    • @bernventer5949
      @bernventer5949 2 роки тому +1

      Like the Nuclear project, this one is so idilic at the start and then runs into £billions of over budget unforeseen reasons but then it is too late. If it were to work, it would be better to try a country in another time zone so that they had sunshine at the UK peak requirement which is in the evening.

    • @СашаЧерный-э2т
      @СашаЧерный-э2т 2 роки тому +1

      @@bernventer5949 The cost of cables and losses on transmission would be even larger.

    • @linmal2242
      @linmal2242 2 роки тому

      ESPECIALLY female education !

    • @businessproyects2615
      @businessproyects2615 2 роки тому

      Atlantropa rises.