It was impressive. What an amazing piece of history. Mark, I have watched all your videos in 3 weeks!!! I'm addicted to your job and need more videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very nice machine. Worth noting that with a machine like this you can (and probably should) close the lid when playing as the lid acts as a low pass filter and removes a significant amount of surface noise. Listening from the next room also achieves a similar improvement 😀👍
Thanks! I found that out when I had some table top units in for repair. I can’t believe how loud they are, and they definitely sounded better with the lid closed. 👍
@@MendItMark Yes, I find when I play these in my little workshop they really can be too loud 😅. Mechanical reproduction is great fun though and really interesting to experiment with IMHO. Thanks 😀 👍
Hi Mark? I have time today to tell you how much I’ve been enjoying and appreciating your vids recently. I’ve learned so much from you, you wouldn’t believe? Mostly I’ve learned that I’ve left it too late to learn and study electronics as you obviously have. I feel that way about other subjects too, so I really have no chance ha ha! Not to worry, I am busy just trying to keep healthy and happy and enjoying what’s left of my time on this earth. Thank you for your vids, I do enjoy them.
Hello music lovers, surprised too find your video, brilliant!!! Thank you very, very much for sharing your knowledge with us beginners!! Lol just recently bought a Gilbert, love it and intend on learning more about these wonderful machines . Thanks again Mark, your our hero!!!
I had this exact model given to me when I was a teen in the 80's by my neighbour, on the promise I'd look after it. And look after I did for over 30 years until I had to pass it on to a new owner. Hope it's still around.
Hi Mark, great video I used to live about 5 mins walk away from the top English marker of radio , gramophones it was HMV with the little dog , mum worked there and half the street was there this was pre war era .
I have the very same model! I see the one you have there has an open trumpet when you open the door. Mine was but i noticed some traces of fabric behind the wooden frame and I managed to find a very close match and replaced it. Mind without the fabric closing of the front of the horn it does give you the option of stiffing something in there to reduce the volume. Perhaps that is were the saying originated, "Put A Sock In It"? 78 rpm, you could count that to trim your speed adjustment.
A lot of people make the mistake of playing more modern 78's on these machines but they will get completely ruined. Don’t play Elvis or Frank Sinatra for example on one of these, the newer ones were made from a different material.
I have seen a 78 and it had only one side recorded on and as far as I know the reason for that was the thinking that it would make the disc to brittle with both sides recorded on.
These were very high-end Machines; Gilbert were not around for many years. (around ten at most) They were put out of business mainly by 'propaganda' with a little bit of snobbery that HMV in particular were a better Machine - but they weren’t! Gilbert were in fact the very best Machines ever made - though you’ll find very few Collectors to admit it. They used the unique 'Mother of Pearl’ Soundbox which literally lasted forever, and the Bugle Snake Tone Arm and the best quality motors. I have several Gramophones, and these are really the very best. I own this particular Model.
@@radiogramgramophonetoons5802 Yes it has; all Gilbert Models were made with Mother of Pearl - they made no other. Unless of course people later changed their Soundbox. This has the original - you can just about see it as he places the Tone Arm on the Record.
@@nintendy ………. Oh ok, so the mother of Pearl (that I read was a patented item for Gilbert) is actually inside that soundbox tone arm head, I see. I only asked as yesterday I bought a Gilbert but I don’t know which model it is. But on mine, the whole face is visibly the mother of Pearl, and somehow looks chunkier that the one in your vid. Mine has issues that need addressing, like the brake and in transit yesterday in the back of my car, something has gone a-Miss. I had it laying down on its back as it was too tall to stand in the back of the car and on several occasions it was sliding from side of car to side of car. It’s developed a clunking noise when the platter is spinning !!!!
@@radiogramgramophonetoons5802 Yes; although all Models were made using Mother of Pearl, they varied; the 'chunkier’ one you describe was of a higher quality - but none of them were cheap - all brilliant.
The record actually is harder than the steel needle and the needle wears down in a single play. Provided you change the needle every time, you can play the record many times before any wear is noticeable
And, if you use Thorne or Bamboo needles, the wear factor is much less. Great reduction in "Surface Noise" also. I put SF between "" marks noice is NOT do to the non-metalic needle muffling high tones, but is from metal scraping against the groove, you will find high pitch notesusic not muffled/filtered at all. Another factor is that if you are foolish enough not to change after each side, the steel needles act to chiseled grooved, but fibers tend to break down into a bunch of fibers like a brush, limiting damages.
It was impressive. What an amazing piece of history.
Mark, I have watched all your videos in 3 weeks!!!
I'm addicted to your job and need more videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very nice machine. Worth noting that with a machine like this you can (and probably should) close the lid when playing as the lid acts as a low pass filter and removes a significant amount of surface noise. Listening from the next room also achieves a similar improvement 😀👍
Thanks! I found that out when I had some table top units in for repair. I can’t believe how loud they are, and they definitely sounded better with the lid closed. 👍
@@MendItMark Yes, I find when I play these in my little workshop they really can be too loud 😅. Mechanical reproduction is great fun though and really interesting to experiment with IMHO. Thanks 😀 👍
Amazing patience, hats off to you Mark
Hi Mark? I have time today to tell you how much I’ve been enjoying and appreciating your vids recently. I’ve learned so much from you, you wouldn’t believe? Mostly I’ve learned that I’ve left it too late to learn and study electronics as you obviously have. I feel that way about other subjects too, so I really have no chance ha ha! Not to worry, I am busy just trying to keep healthy and happy and enjoying what’s left of my time on this earth. Thank you for your vids, I do enjoy them.
Hello music lovers, surprised too find your video, brilliant!!! Thank you very, very much for sharing your knowledge with us beginners!! Lol just recently bought a Gilbert, love it and intend on learning more about these wonderful machines . Thanks again Mark, your our hero!!!
I had this exact model given to me when I was a teen in the 80's by my neighbour, on the promise I'd look after it. And look after I did for over 30 years until I had to pass it on to a new owner. Hope it's still around.
Hi Mark, great video I used to live about 5 mins walk away from the top English marker of radio , gramophones it was HMV with the little dog , mum worked there and half the street was there this was pre war era .
Thank you for sharing.
I have the very same model! I see the one you have there has an open trumpet when you open the door. Mine was but i noticed some traces of fabric behind the wooden frame and I managed to find a very close match and replaced it. Mind without the fabric closing of the front of the horn it does give you the option of stiffing something in there to reduce the volume. Perhaps that is were the saying originated, "Put A Sock In It"? 78 rpm, you could count that to trim your speed adjustment.
A great record player and record
Did you say it’s made by garrard? I didn’t know they went back that far. Amazing
That background noise plays in every audiophile's nightmare
"No electronics"
I'll go as far as to say, no electricity at all, let alone electronics!
Gilberts were made in Sheffield. I have my Dads old "portable" its in terrible condition but a sentimental family heirloom.
I have a Victrola from 1928. It was my grandfather's.
Perhaps it was worth setting the speed of the disk according to the strobe?
A lot of people make the mistake of playing more modern 78's on these machines but they will get completely ruined. Don’t play Elvis or Frank Sinatra for example on one of these, the newer ones were made from a different material.
They made acoustic gramophones until the 50’s :)
I have seen a 78 and it had only one side recorded on and as far as I know the reason for that was the thinking that it would make the disc to brittle with both sides recorded on.
These were very high-end Machines; Gilbert were not around for many years. (around ten at most) They were put out of business mainly by 'propaganda' with a little bit of snobbery that HMV in particular were a better Machine - but they weren’t! Gilbert were in fact the very best Machines ever made - though you’ll find very few Collectors to admit it. They used the unique 'Mother of Pearl’ Soundbox which literally lasted forever, and the Bugle Snake Tone Arm and the best quality motors. I have several Gramophones, and these are really the very best. I own this particular Model.
Which is this particular model ?
This model hasn’t got the mother of Pearl ?
@@radiogramgramophonetoons5802 Yes it has; all Gilbert Models were made with Mother of Pearl - they made no other. Unless of course people later changed their Soundbox. This has the original - you can just about see it as he places the Tone Arm on the Record.
@@nintendy ………. Oh ok, so the mother of Pearl (that I read was a patented item for Gilbert) is actually inside that soundbox tone arm head, I see.
I only asked as yesterday I bought a Gilbert but I don’t know which model it is. But on mine, the whole face is visibly the mother of Pearl, and somehow looks chunkier that the one in your vid.
Mine has issues that need addressing, like the brake and in transit yesterday in the back of my car, something has gone a-Miss. I had it laying down on its back as it was too tall to stand in the back of the car and on several occasions it was sliding from side of car to side of car. It’s developed a clunking noise when the platter is spinning !!!!
@@radiogramgramophonetoons5802 Yes; although all Models were made using Mother of Pearl, they varied; the 'chunkier’ one you describe was of a higher quality - but none of them were cheap - all brilliant.
Beautiful ❤️
You did find use for a spool of solder though :)
Thanks not beeing too popular and making ads on yt yet ,I rest my mind .
138 gram tonearm weight. Jeez Louise!!!
The tracking weight is not for vinyl...its for 78s its not surprising.
I'm surprised the records last more than a few plays with that tracking force 😖
The record actually is harder than the steel needle and the needle wears down in a single play. Provided you change the needle every time, you can play the record many times before any wear is noticeable
And, if you use Thorne
or Bamboo needles,
the wear factor is
much less.
Great reduction in
"Surface Noise" also.
I put SF between "" marks
noice is NOT do to
the non-metalic needle
muffling high tones,
but is from metal
scraping against the
groove, you will find
high pitch notesusic
not muffled/filtered
at all.
Another factor is that if you are foolish enough not to change after each side, the steel needles act to chiseled grooved, but fibers tend to break down into a bunch of fibers like a brush, limiting damages.
Rammstein at 7:55 😂
The records back then were made out of lacquer not vinyl. They shatter like glass when broken.
Shellac
It will still work after the nuclear apocalypse.
138g is ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIC!!! the sound is very loud from it too