No its not surprising the world doesn't revolve around Europe or north America and not sure if you noticed plenty of Nintendo games have japanese in jokes and jokes to previous japanese release only game your just being privileged lmfao. (Privileged was a joke just incase somone doesn't realise XD but if you need to be told that you're better off not online tbh)
As a Wave Race 64 speedrunner, I can say there is likely some small remastering done to the overall feel and play of the Shindou version of the game that makes it play better than the original 1.0 JP and US versions. All of the top IL players use the Shindou version and it is the best version for RTA as you pointed out the load time differences in your video. I appreciate the spotlight on these two awesome games and the very well made video SSFF :)
So basically your saying Waverace 64 Shindou, is the better version between the two, and Mario 64 Shindou, is worse mainly for speedrunners so all round being worse overall despite the rumbling helping you not get cramped up which would help speedrunning ironically.
Just wanted to say that your content is fantastic and you guys deserve WAY more subscribers than you currently have. SSFF has some of the most entertaining gaming content on all of UA-cam and I wish you guys the best.
A year and a half after this video was uploaded, the Shindou version of SM64 is getting rereleased in 3D All Stars. Really interesting that the West is getting the Shindou version this time.
Maybe you should cover the select games that have received the largest amount of ports? With some focus given to certain re releases that added more content or graphics & gameplay improvements. Among the most ported games I can think of are Sonic 1, Resi4, Cave Story, Street Fighter 2, etc.
There's this game I want you guys to cover, but I fear it might be a rumor. I think the game in question is Shining Force III for the Saturn, for the simple reason of what someone from Sega said to face of its developer about the cost of manufacturing the disc and the price of the game. That quote needs to be heard to be believed.
Cover the secret behind the Unlimited Lives code on the US version of Contra: Hard Corps (Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, B, A). I got it to work yesterday by spamming the hell out of it before the first stage begins but I tried to do it again today and just can't figure out exactly where you do it and there is next to nothing on the Internet about it. I can't believe this many years have passed and in this day and age of the Internet that it's still relatively unknown.
Wow, 4.5 minutes of pure background information. Most would just say "it's the re-release with rumble support" and jump straight into changes. I didn't even know there were other "shindou" games until now.
I've always appreciated this channel for taking in-depth looks into things like this when most just treat it as a foot note. Also: I want an episode on *I Am A Teacher: Super Mario Sweater.** a Famicom Disk System game that is a sewing simulator. Real thing.
Played some Wave Race for a few hours on Switch yesterday. I honestly did not remember how dirty the AI is on higher difficulty settings. Even on Hard the other 3 were steering directly into me non-stop 😭
Technically, the Dual Analog Controller on PlayStation came first, and was released days before Star Fox 64 and the rumble pack. The Japanese models of the Dual Analog Controller had a built in vibration function, and Tobal 2 was the first PS game with analog and vibration support.
"As you can see, [the loading times] definitely aren't as big of a difference as Mario 64." The heck you talking about? The level started up almost a second earlier than the other versions. That Mario comparison had like, 5 frames of extra buffering. Am I going mental?
The shindou version of Mario 64 is great in my opinion because it added rumble and fixed a lot of glitches and added more voice clips that America already had! I can understand why people don’t like this version saying it’s the worst version because it takes a little longer to load and they fixed the backwards long jump making this terrible for speed running! I would prefer the English original but this is still great in my opinion! My only problem is that Mario doesn’t say So long gay Bowser in this version for obvious reasons!
You think the PAL versions existing in 1997 was bad? Every home console release of Super Mario 64 in Europe was the PAL ISO. 50Hz speed, black borders, just shit all round.
Its obvious that Nintendo does not like speedrunners. If I were to guess it is because Nintendo just does not like people poking holes/exploiting their code for the sake of sequence breaking glitches. Nintendo does not like fun. See: when they sued Game Genie
Just got Mario 3D all stars. Mario’s voice in 64 was driving me crazy! Now it makes sense knowing it’s the shindou version ! So weird they did this kinda wish they just released the American version but oh well
Of course Star Fox 64 sold like poorly in Japan. The CONSOLE wasn't selling very well over there, lagging behind he Saturn and WELL behind the PlayStation.
What if Totaka's Song is actually hidden in Shindou Wave Race, but is played by the Rumble Pak's vibrations? Also, shout out to that quality pun in the description.
I use an N64 controller with a USB adapter, and I keep the rumble pack inserted even though my adapter does not support the rumble pak because I prefer the additional weight. I am weird.
Dimensiom I honestly don’t mind the extra weight myself; in fact, because I only put it in for games that support it (which I started doing because of my suspicion that it drained the batteries anyway), it’s kinda jarring when I use an N64 controller without a rumble pak inserted after I used it with it.
3:58 See if Segata Sanshiro renamed himself to "The Rumble Boy" and put out some J-Pop hits I bet SEGA would still be making consoles. Dude could break the laws of physics but had nothing to combat the power of teen idol marketing.
@@otaking3582 a friend of mine actually bought one when it was on sale specifically because of the linear actuator rumble after experiencing it in their Apple Watch, so I guess they're officially an HD rumble enthusiast (to be clear I super love HD rumble too, but I don't have anything else that uses it, let alone a steam controller)
8:33 "China's legendary bootleg" is a weak statement kind of. The bootlegging capabilities of china are incredible to this day, they can imitate any electronic device.
i'm going through a hard time and using your videos to fall asleep. don't worry, i rewatch many during the day and catch what i think is interesting. thank you, this kind of thing keeps me going.
Well dang. I still have my original Japanese copy of Mario 64. Kinda weird that it's considered a rare revision. I never knew I had the Shindou version of Wave Race 64. The rumble was pretty cool in that game.
We finally get to play the Shindou version of the game in 3D Allstars Collection. There is proof that it is this version because the in trailer Mario says bye bye.
I get the feeling Derek is going through a bit of N64 nostalgia. I seriously feel like the N64 gets an inordinate amount of coverage lately. Ironically Mario 64 and Wave Race were my first two N64 games... with Wave Race being my actual first and still my favorite N64 game.
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Big shout out to all my dolphin buddies for watching and making this video possible!
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So long, and thanks for all the fish!
I want your shirt. Where do I get it? @derek
No its not surprising the world doesn't revolve around Europe or north America and not sure if you noticed plenty of Nintendo games have japanese in jokes and jokes to previous japanese release only game your just being privileged lmfao. (Privileged was a joke just incase somone doesn't realise XD but if you need to be told that you're better off not online tbh)
Can you look at the First Sonic game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a Wave Race 64 speedrunner, I can say there is likely some small remastering done to the overall feel and play of the Shindou version of the game that makes it play better than the original 1.0 JP and US versions. All of the top IL players use the Shindou version and it is the best version for RTA as you pointed out the load time differences in your video. I appreciate the spotlight on these two awesome games and the very well made video SSFF :)
So basically your saying Waverace 64 Shindou, is the better version between the two, and Mario 64 Shindou, is worse mainly for speedrunners so all round being worse overall despite the rumbling helping you not get cramped up which would help speedrunning ironically.
"We'd like to thank N64th street for letting us borrow their PRISTINE boxed copies of these games." Also 6:08. 😂
My thoughts exactly! LOL
“...for letting us borrow their PRISTINE boxed copies!” **smashes boxes together**
Just wanted to say that your content is fantastic and you guys deserve WAY more subscribers than you currently have. SSFF has some of the most entertaining gaming content on all of UA-cam and I wish you guys the best.
A year and a half after this video was uploaded, the Shindou version of SM64 is getting rereleased in 3D All Stars. Really interesting that the West is getting the Shindou version this time.
Another fun fact: the rumble pack can be modded to be battery-less just by relocating a single resistor. It cuts the weight by a good bit.
Glad to see I'm not the only fan of the very 90s Wave Race 64 soundtrack! I love the synth piano use in the soundtrack.
Maybe you should cover the select games that have received the largest amount of ports? With some focus given to certain re releases that added more content or graphics & gameplay improvements. Among the most ported games I can think of are Sonic 1, Resi4, Cave Story, Street Fighter 2, etc.
Sonic 1 AND Sonic 2.
A review of amazing WhiteHead versions would be great.
ok you called it, I want a video about the NDS Rumble Pak, and I want it NOW
There's this game I want you guys to cover, but I fear it might be a rumor.
I think the game in question is Shining Force III for the Saturn, for the simple reason of what someone from Sega said to face of its developer about the cost of manufacturing the disc and the price of the game. That quote needs to be heard to be believed.
Another awesome video, I'm glad I found this channel last year!
I was playing Minecraft the other day, and 2 skeletons started actually fighting. I immediately thought of this channel lmao.
Hey now, Japan had Saikyō Habu Shōgi as a launch title too.
The first ever version of Super Mario 64 I ever played was the Shindou Version.
I think the Hey You, Pikachu microphone might make for some interesting source materiel if not already covered.
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Cover the secret behind the Unlimited Lives code on the US version of Contra: Hard Corps (Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A, B, B, A). I got it to work yesterday by spamming the hell out of it before the first stage begins but I tried to do it again today and just can't figure out exactly where you do it and there is next to nothing on the Internet about it. I can't believe this many years have passed and in this day and age of the Internet that it's still relatively unknown.
I'm much rather watch a speedrun of the Shindou Mario 64
Alexander Roberts Somebody should do that. Good luck, cheaters.
Thanks for the Birthday present!
Wow, 4.5 minutes of pure background information. Most would just say "it's the re-release with rumble support" and jump straight into changes.
I didn't even know there were other "shindou" games until now.
Two quick questions. What is different about HD rumble compared to regular rumble? And what’s the problem with the PAL Wave Race?
26:68 i love how he did the backflip
I've always appreciated this channel for taking in-depth looks into things like this when most just treat it as a foot note.
Also: I want an episode on *I Am A Teacher: Super Mario Sweater.** a Famicom Disk System game that is a sewing simulator. Real thing.
I there were a few PS1 games like this too, like MGS Integral.
Or Resident Evil 1, which had three versions only in the Play Station 1!
Pretty sure it was the extended play sessions of the rumble pak connected to the N64 controller that gave me arthritis...
Played some Wave Race for a few hours on Switch yesterday. I honestly did not remember how dirty the AI is on higher difficulty settings. Even on Hard the other 3 were steering directly into me non-stop 😭
Technically, the Dual Analog Controller on PlayStation came first, and was released days before Star Fox 64 and the rumble pack. The Japanese models of the Dual Analog Controller had a built in vibration function, and Tobal 2 was the first PS game with analog and vibration support.
Let's get ready to... FORCE FEEEEEEDBAAAAAACK!!!!
Okie... an automatic like, cos you mentioned Hirosue Ryoko-san. I was obsessed with her when I was a teen.
Bang and TomGuycott above the tv. That takes me waaaayyy back.
I remember we had these third party rumble pak accessories that had a slot for Memory cards, you could have both.
What a pleasure, as always
My first time experiencing rumble was with Ape Escape. That was my friggin childhood.
"As you can see, [the loading times] definitely aren't as big of a difference as Mario 64."
The heck you talking about? The level started up almost a second earlier than the other versions. That Mario comparison had like, 5 frames of extra buffering. Am I going mental?
Is this the version in 3D All stars?
Most likely.
I actually DO care about HD rumble! Seeing it used in Mario Party is so cool.
And in Kirby!
You don't spend very much time stopping skeletons from fighting...
Rumble? What’s rumble?
-PS3 Controller 2006-2009
Finally! A new SSFF!
Sick shirt
There's a rumble pack/memory card pack I remember having as a kid
SSFF .. Stronger than ever.
I wish we’d get translation romhacks of these. Love playing the games with rumble :)
the mario one is what's used for the switch 3d allstars
The shindou version of Mario 64 is great in my opinion because it added rumble and fixed a lot of glitches and added more voice clips that America already had! I can understand why people don’t like this version saying it’s the worst version because it takes a little longer to load and they fixed the backwards long jump making this terrible for speed running! I would prefer the English original but this is still great in my opinion! My only problem is that Mario doesn’t say So long gay Bowser in this version for obvious reasons!
Great Video as always ^^ Maybe next Final Fantasy? ^^
DID SOMEONE SAY DOLPHIN BUDDIES??!
I really love the N64 episodes, since i grew up with a N64.
You think the PAL versions existing in 1997 was bad? Every home console release of Super Mario 64 in Europe was the PAL ISO. 50Hz speed, black borders, just shit all round.
I hate vibration in controllers, I always disable it.
No wonder why i always see the Japanese Verision of Mario 64 in speedruns.
2:42 can’t remember the name of the manufacturer but a 3rd party made a (really heavy) rumble pack that had a slot for memory cards.
Was it madkatz?
Oh my, where can I find that shirt?
Yo who made this awesome mii maker remix?
Would love to watch you go over the ique on detail
Wait wave race is on Nintendo 64 i only played the gameboy version
Could you eventually do a video on WarioWare: D.I.Y. Showcase and its compatibility with WarioWare: D.I.Y. some time?
I didn't even know about these versions
I just want to know where did you got that sweet smash bros T-Shirt. I really need one
hope you or someone make you cover iQue
interesting stuffs to cover and right up in your alley
Its obvious that Nintendo does not like speedrunners. If I were to guess it is because Nintendo just does not like people poking holes/exploiting their code for the sake of sequence breaking glitches. Nintendo does not like fun. See: when they sued Game Genie
Just got Mario 3D all stars. Mario’s voice in 64 was driving me crazy! Now it makes sense knowing it’s the shindou version ! So weird they did this kinda wish they just released the American version but oh well
Hirosue Ryoko is damn cute back then
she is still very beautiful now btw
One way the west was better in two words.
*_Gay Bowser_*
My top hat is better then you!
Of course Star Fox 64 sold like poorly in Japan. The CONSOLE wasn't selling very well over there, lagging behind he Saturn and WELL behind the PlayStation.
Could we potentially see an iQue video?
“The BLJ was patched.”
/cries in SimpleFlips
Shout out to SimpleFlips
- No BLJ means no GBJ
*cries in Piplup Guy*
Críes in cheese05, puncayssun, and the thousands of other Mario 64 speedruners...
Shoutouts to Simpleflips
SimpleFLOPS
*Me living in Europe and wondering why I never liked Waverace 64*
Derek: At least it's not as bad as the PAL version
Me: Ooooooooohhhh
Thank you for doing a good, comprehensive video on these.
Most go for clickbait titles and have no actual substance on the video.
Always love Derek's dorky enthusiasm. It keeps me coming back. DOLPHIN BUDDIES. It's what the world needs now.
“SO LONG, GAY BOSWER!”
Wish I wasn’t in public while watching this with headphones, cuz everyone looked at me when I started laughing like a maniac!
Worth it.
That's not what it says anyway lol.
@@ninja_tony duh
What if Totaka's Song is actually hidden in Shindou Wave Race, but is played by the Rumble Pak's vibrations?
Also, shout out to that quality pun in the description.
Sadly this isn't HD rumble, so it can't play music
"Played by the rumble pak's vibrations"
*VRRRT VRRVRRVRRT VRRT VRRRT VRRT VRRT VRRT*
I tried.
@@otaking3582 Did you ever hear the song The Lumberjack by Jackyl? Anything can play music, even chainsaws.
Wave Race 64 has such an amazing soundtrack! N64 really blew 12-year-old me away at launch, we played Wave Race & Mario so much
I fucking love your N64 coverage. Gotta be the best on UA-cam!
definitely the most slept on console in youtube
I use an N64 controller with a USB adapter, and I keep the rumble pack inserted even though my adapter does not support the rumble pak because I prefer the additional weight.
I am weird.
Dimensiom I honestly don’t mind the extra weight myself; in fact, because I only put it in for games that support it (which I started doing because of my suspicion that it drained the batteries anyway), it’s kinda jarring when I use an N64 controller without a rumble pak inserted after I used it with it.
The HD Rumble for the Switch version of Tumbleseed is amazing. It feels like the seed is rolling around inside the Switch.
Two different types of people.
Mario 64 team: Screw your fun backwards long jump.
Wave Race team: Did someone say fun? HAVE SOME DOLPHIN FRIENDS.
3:58
See if Segata Sanshiro renamed himself to "The Rumble Boy" and put out some J-Pop hits I bet SEGA would still be making consoles. Dude could break the laws of physics but had nothing to combat the power of teen idol marketing.
The shindou version of wave race seems worth checking out just for the dolphin time trial addition. That's a pretty cool add-on imo.
2:16 - Hey! I have the same scale for selling drugs!
This video gets far more interesting now that 3D all-Stars has been the first time Shindou Mario 64 is available outside of Japan.
*I* care about HD rumble! How many other controllers are able to play Kirby music without having built-in speakers?!
honestly that's the best part of hd rumble 1 2 switch can go suck my ass
@GreyZX 1) How?
2) Since when?
3) Who the hell uses a Steam controller?
@@otaking3582 a friend of mine actually bought one when it was on sale specifically because of the linear actuator rumble after experiencing it in their Apple Watch, so I guess they're officially an HD rumble enthusiast (to be clear I super love HD rumble too, but I don't have anything else that uses it, let alone a steam controller)
WTF?! Ryoko Hirosue was in a Starfox commercial? Biggest celebrity crush of my entire life.
"It just assaults you with vibration"
So that's what the middle hand grip is ment to be 🤣
You've been on a roll with these video drops! Quality stuff keep it up
8:33 "China's legendary bootleg" is a weak statement kind of. The bootlegging capabilities of china are incredible to this day, they can imitate any electronic device.
"Thanks for letting us borrow your pristine boxed copies"
*slams the boxes together*
Lolol super good video regardless
i'm going through a hard time and using your videos to fall asleep. don't worry, i rewatch many during the day and catch what i think is interesting. thank you, this kind of thing keeps me going.
Stay powerful!
Well dang. I still have my original Japanese copy of Mario 64. Kinda weird that it's considered a rare revision.
I never knew I had the Shindou version of Wave Race 64. The rumble was pretty cool in that game.
We finally get to play the Shindou version of the game in 3D Allstars Collection. There is proof that it is this version because the in trailer Mario says bye bye.
I think you mean Bye Bi.
Stop tryin to flex with your better rumble and other micelanious upgraded functionality’s.
Best breakdown of these games I've seen.
As for what to cover next? How about a Konami topic for the 50th anniversary?
4:19 - I'm about 95% sure I've seen them on some Japanese auction sites before, I might have a picture saved somewhere.
Dude, yes! It is great to hear you talk about the shindou versions of WaveRace and Mario 64.
Could revisit this with All-Stars. I'm pretty sure SM64 is the Shindou version in the states now too.
I really love HD rumble the subtle vibrations do wonders personally
It might be interesting to see a video about n64 games with irregularly colored carts. Like the Majora's Mask gold cart or somesuch. I dunno.
I think we're now getting the Shindou version of Mario 64 via Super Mario 3D All-Stars!
Side note: Microsoft and Sony's lawsuits were filed by a patent troll company, not a legit one.
the n64 DID NOT feel right without the weight of the rumble pak
2020: took them a while but they finally gave us the Shindou Version in the Mario 3d all stars collection with rumble included.
I get the feeling Derek is going through a bit of N64 nostalgia. I seriously feel like the N64 gets an inordinate amount of coverage lately.
Ironically Mario 64 and Wave Race were my first two N64 games... with Wave Race being my actual first and still my favorite N64 game.
That's not ironic, that's coincidental.