Why did Mitrabha call the arbiter? Dubov vs Mitrabha | World Rapid 2021
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- Опубліковано 18 січ 2022
- India's 72nd GM Mitrabha Guha made a phenomenal debut at the World Rapid 2021. He defeated Vahap Sanal (TUR, 2509), Aryan Tari (NOR, 2542), Rinat Jumabayev (KAZ, 2562), Alexandr Predke (RUS, 2630), Volodymyr Onyschuk (UKR, 2687), Baadur Jobava (GEO, 2679) and drew with Sergey Karjakin (RUS, 2757). In the final round, he was up against former World Rapid champion Daniil Dubov (RUS, 2735). How did he fare against him? Find out in this video. Also try to find who had a great opportunity to gain decisive advantage.
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Dubov in end be like-Draw chahiye? lele bhai muje nahi khelna
That is how a threefold repetition is suppose to be claimed, by calling the arbiter to witness the last move. If you do not call the arbiter he may refuse to grant it.
@Twitch Land These cameras are not setup by the organisers. They are setup by people who stream on different platforms or just record the game. Hundreds of people play it is not possible to monitor all of them. Hence arbiter is needed.
Don't you think now after these digital boards have come, all moves are being recorded which can later be revisited by the arbiter. I think the same kind of situation happened recently in a game with arjun where his opponent claimed a 50move no capture draw rule. They went to the arbiter and he checked it on his laptop and declared a draw.
@Twitch Land This isn't a question about cameras. If you make a move and press the clock, your opponent can make a different move and then it's a new position on the board (not a repetition). You can only claim the draw when it's your move (nor your opponent's) and you do that by stopping the clock and calling the arbiter as you saw here.
Not true. The game record will.
@@hmrhuang Game record doesn't make it a draw. A threefold repetition is not a DRAW if you don't claim it as a draw,.You can have 3 5, 10 repetitions but it will still not be a draw if no players claim it. (That happens all the time) It's only draw if the player claims it as a draw. And the player can claim only when it's his move. If you make a move and press the clock, the opponent is allowed to make a new move and change the position.
13:30 is what you are looking for
Thanks!
They are good guys both of them ... they will go along just fine :)
13:29 is why you clicked this video
He did the right thing calling the arbiter. That's their job
Great going Chessbase India
Legends don't know how to play,but still watching😂😂
Haha, I love this! the same legends are in chat during a live stream.
interesting that the final position is winning for white in many ways, according to the tablebase...
Alternative Title: Why did Mitrabha claim a 3-fold repitition.
But why did Dubov repeat the checks? He has the better (winning) position.
Time
It is obviously desirable when the arbiter doesn't need to get involved. However, in a position where clearly one of the two players (Mitrabha here) is going for the draw, the way to avoid arbiter involvement is for the side that is nominally ahead (Dubov) to concede the draw. By not extending his hand for a draw, the responsibility for involving the arbiter lies with Dubov not Mitrabha.
duhhh, dubov clearly didnt react to the repetition, thats why the arbiter was called.
shut up fool...the players record their moves 3 fold reps are not brain surgery to find
white is clearly winning after Kd5 instead of Rb7+
Handshake ?
"No, i'm not sure"
Said Debov at the end
14:01 when he move king and touch the clock!!!! hahahah
Answer: To claim draw because of threefold repetition.
By the way, if we check the replay, we can clearly see that it is not a 3 fold repetition..
Why?
Both players should repeat the same moves 3 times .
@@deepaksbharadwaj no. if you want to claim a threefold repetition, you call the arbiter over and show the move you are going to make. if you make your move first and reach the position, then the move is considered to be completed and the arbiter can reject your threefold repeition claim.
Вот Даня, такую партию не выиграл. Помните, индийский шахматист поставил ферзя на е4, он задел белого ферзя и ладью зацепил. Поставьте в настройках самую маленькую скорость 0.25 и вы увидите что, индус сбивает ферзя специально. Если человек случайно задевает фигуру, то траектория идёт до конца поля, куда он хотел поставить фигуру и только потом, поправляет случайно сбившую фигуру. А тут мы видим, когда индус сбивает ферзя, то его рука останавливается на мгновенье и уже потом ставите своего ферзя на е4. А Даня вместо хода ладьёй на d1 ( симпатичного свиду) , выигрывал простым шахом ферзя на g3!! Шахматист из Индии повёл себя недостойно!!
Except for the endgame Mitrabha excelled throughout.
What do you mean by "excelled"? I mean, he was completely outplayed in a completely equal endgame and only thing that saved him was this three-fold repetition because of time trouble, if that didn't happen he would've lost the game.
@@andrejatodorovic4094 aren't you literally explained the answer itself? The guy literally said 'except for endgame', so Mitrabha only good at overall chess except when he is on endgame, like what we saw. He is actually defending well against Dubov who is good at making aggressive attack, well, until endgame met.
Nevertheless, a great game.
4:17 what about Re5?
Re5 Qe5?
6:54 queen b8 checkmate?
I see rook e8 block. and queen protects. but ill just leave this here.
A lot of people here are saying it's not 3 fold. Please review or learn what 3 fold repetition is.
What if his three fold repetition claim is wrong?? Did he loose his game?
If his claim is wrong, I believe your opponent just gets additional time. You don’t lose any games if you try to claim something. There use to be a FIDE rule where if you promoted, you had to place the queen on the board first then hit your clock. If you failed to do that during promotion you lost the game immediately. Now it’s just more time for your opponent which is fair
@@Theunknownworld77 yes but in this particular position what defender need is time so that he can think how to draw... So what if someone wrongly claim just to get some time?
@@SHUBHAMSINGH-wf2dj what? Your opponent gets more time. So if Mitrabha claims it is 3 fold and it isn’t, Dubov gets extra time. It doesn’t benefit you in any way if you made an incorrect claim.
For example here, Dubov didn’t know if it was 3-fold or not. Mitrabha could make a claim that oh it was 3-fold and the worst is that Dubov gets extra time. This is more useful when you are trying to claim 50 moves. Where you make a claim to be 50 moves and the arbiter has to check how many moves you are off to reaching it
Well, it would be silly if there was no repetition of moves - so only likely in a very long ending with little material left on the board. Then the position may have happened at different times.
But titled players can be coldblooded enough to make an illegal move (using both hands to capture or castle, for example) to get some extra time while the referee adjusts the clock. But iirc you lose if you make two illegal moves in the same game. Don't know how many times one can claim third repetition - but after the first one it's probably a judgement call for the referee...
@@Theunknownworld77 There's 3 times in b6...the thing is how many times a piece remains in a square, not how many time the player repeats.
Some Gms have explained that in videos.
Could Dubov have won if the game had not been stopped?
Not after the third time Rb6 had been played. If a different move was played, there might have been a different outcome.
@@izzjaboi4337 ah, position was repeated thrice. Thank you.
@@izzjaboi4337 The position was never repeated three times.
It was going to be*
Dubov clearly had chances of win. Distinctive weakness in endgame of Mitrabha was evident.
Not even a handshake to Dubov?
Dubov was too sluggish in this game, being very slow almost like he was on something, haha.
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But wasn't 3
Dubov was winning
It's just twice???
Play Kf4 instead of Rb7
Because black Rook in a7 out of game ( not active )
Mitrabha should approach Daniil rather than the arbiter about his repitition claim.
Dubov would beat!
Lucky day for mitrabha,he is losing actually
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Ok
Dubov was better!!!
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Mitrabha was playing for a draw clearly. He should have asked Dubov for a draw instead of calling the arbiter. Why not try and win? This should be a turn off for any Mitrabha fan.
Bruh
is there any mitrabha fan yet? and if if there are some mitraabha fan out there he is not even in top100 so having a draw against a top player is a big achievement and fans will surely proud at him.
First view
He is IM
was
First comment
Lots of mistakes and missed chances by Dubov.
Such a clickbait title
For me, Mitrabha lost here. What ever you say, he lost here. His play is so unlcassy!
They repeated twice, but Mithraba drew by rascal.
It was mitrabha's move. As soon as mitrabha moves his king back(which he did after coming back to the board), it's a draw. He paused tha game and called the arbitrator before moving his piece which is perfectly fine.
He did exactly what you are supposed to do. If he had played ...Ke7 for the third time before claiming the draw it would not have been approved. I've seen that happen a couple of times in the team series.
3 times in b6... It's a draw.
It's not that the player repeats a move 3 times.
It's the same *position* three times and you have to claim before you complete the third repetition of the position.
Basic knowledge if you are a tournament player.
wtf dubov doing? winning position but repeating the same move.
mithraba counted wrong silly boy
It was mitrabha's move. As soon as mitrabha moves his king back(which he did after coming back to the board), it's a draw. He paused tha game and called the arbitrator before moving his piece which is perfectly fine.
…..this indian is in losing position, he tried so hard to make it draw….dubov i m pretty sure, he can win it…india ohhh indiaaaa…whyyy whyyyy
this mithraba Is the anti chess style...