I was trying to get something like this going DIY, but it is rather hard without specialized gear. So it is very interesting to see that a company is filling this gap in the comms market.
The French army still has a carrier pigeon unit that has seen service in many wars since the 19th century. Very reliable and almost impossible to intercept the messages.
Nice turnkey solution, not expensive like HF ham radios, maybe with this kind of solution more people can get onboard. Only thing it could do better - not relie on smartphones, just add a display, and keyboard
I mentioned to Jason that I'll do the setup and labor at no charge to deploy a WaveShark mesh network for your survival group. The hardware cost will be under $500 per family, which will be a one-time investment with no recurring subscriptions or fees. That's not to mention 100% protected from Big Tech and three letter agencies snooping on y'all.
So I bluetooth a text message from my phone to the device. Then the device transmits it line-of-sight to repeaters and other devices. But how widely used is this mesh network in the US? How many people have repeaters in a Faraday cage, ready to set up after an EMP when the SHTF?
So … if several hundred people across an urban or suburban area have a system, and if all of them are turned on. Then you can communicate across your area of interest. Worthless to me living in an area with one person per square mile, most of them with little interest in technology beyond how far they must drive to get a cell signal. I’ll stick with my HAM HF system for beyond visual range, and my UHF/VHF HAM systems within visual range.
I appreciate your efforts to inform folks about off grid comms but you can literally build a LORA device for about $50. You can build a repeater for about $100.
The average person can’t. And, many people would rather buy a turnkey solution because their time is worth more than saving pennies. Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. There’s no one size fits all solution for the vast majority of topics. Each to their own.
@@SurvivalDispatch Respectfully, the average person can. How do I know this? I’m an average person and I did it. The time factor is minimal. I learned how to do it over a weekend. In a true emergency people need skills not just a product.
@@ascott701 I've worked in the tech industry for decades and respectfully most people can't. Also, as your pay grade goes up, the less sense it makes to tackle DIY projects. Again, there's no one size fits all. If DIY works for you, that's fantastic. It doesn't mean it's the best solution for everybody else. Also, WaveShark use a bunch of American made components and pay Americans to build and support their products.
I'd love to hear more about it. I'm not one for the higher priced items or who can spend money for convenience. I need reasonable, budget and cheaper. Most everything I own I purchased on sale and clearance.
@@ascott701 I'm in agreement with the other person who commented (Harry T ?) and suggested you start your own channel for "how to" on diy option. No offense intended but "American made" DOESN'T always equate to "quality" product although it does promote job growth, although at a higher cost in most cases. Current conflict in Ukraine (and others) exposes how poorly our overpriced, over-hyped US military equipment performs.
The problem with these is its all line of sight, meaning anything in the way to block the signal is going to significantly cut down on the distance. Height is might, but at $200 each these will get very expensive.
Amen to that. For a turnkey solution the WaveSharks are a great value for the average person. How many people are capable of building their own stuff from components? Not very many. WaveShark also have a ton of R&D behind them that makes them more robust than piecemealing something together.
For a turnkey solution it's really cheap, not many people can diy that kind of solution ( I can, but have no one to communicate with this kind of service 😔)
@@68Tboy Amen. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Time is the most valuable commodity in the world. In many cases it's not worth expending the time to save pennies. Especially when you could be spending that time with your family. It's also relevant for many people who have a decent pay grade. Everything is relative and what one suits one person doesn't necessarily suit another who's life circumstances are different. We built our own white boxes (desktop computers) for many years, but the warranty and convenience of buying from a tier one OEM eventually made more sense from a time and money perspective. We're hardcore libertarians. Note the lower case L. Those Libertarian party people a nuts. We believe people should be able to do whatever they want, as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. It's a major pet peeve when people try to impose their way on others because they believe their way is the only way. That's BS and pure hubris.
LoRa will do data packets that can then be used by any protocol like VoIP etc. WaveShark have downloadable free gateway software to run on a computer with a WaveShark Communicator attached by USB. Any device Bluetoothed to a WaveShark Communicator on the LAN side can use any other installed apps to reach the Internet no different than if they were connected by WIFI or Ethernet.
There are varying levels of SHTF. The prospect of the entire country being knocked out by EMPs is extremely low. It would essentially mean Armageddon was underway and next to nobody will survive anyway. We don't live in a black and white world. There are a gazillion stages of grey.
Meshtastic is a piecemeal solution. The radio equipment is comprised of SBCs without housings, that have to be fabricated by the end-user. It's for diehard techies, and as far as we know it does not come with the ability to deploy a gateway to provide Internet access to LAN side LoRa clients. The WaveShark is a turnkey solution. You're comparing apples and oranges.
GoTenna is not a private mesh network. WaveShark is a 100% isolated, encrypted, private mesh network that you own outright with no recurring fees. Also, WaveShark provide free gateway software to allow all LAN mesh network clients to access the Internet with any network/data apps installed on them such as web browsers, email clients, social media clients etc.
I was trying to get something like this going DIY, but it is rather hard without specialized gear. So it is very interesting to see that a company is filling this gap in the comms market.
The French army still has a carrier pigeon unit that has seen service in many wars since the 19th century. Very reliable and almost impossible to intercept the messages.
no there s just one sergeant training pigeons as an hobby for tournaments and entertainment. pigeons are not used anymore for any military service.
Nice turnkey solution, not expensive like HF ham radios, maybe with this kind of solution more people can get onboard.
Only thing it could do better - not relie on smartphones, just add a display, and keyboard
Carrier pigeon dogs 😂, good ideas
My interests is definitely peaked. I think I might have to get the system. Thanks for the info
I mentioned to Jason that I'll do the setup and labor at no charge to deploy a WaveShark mesh network for your survival group. The hardware cost will be under $500 per family, which will be a one-time investment with no recurring subscriptions or fees. That's not to mention 100% protected from Big Tech and three letter agencies snooping on y'all.
Communication is key!
Very interesting thanks!
I'm using string and cup, 80s style
I was looking at a DIY like this using LoRa. They cost about $35 each without a case or battery.
My question is how traceable are they? It might be encrypted, but doesn't mean it can't be used against you
Great video guys
So I bluetooth a text message from my phone to the device. Then the device transmits it line-of-sight to repeaters and other devices. But how widely used is this mesh network in the US? How many people have repeaters in a Faraday cage, ready to set up after an EMP when the SHTF?
Good content...keep up the good work...
I'll stick to P2P Winlink, JS8Call and other classic ham radio modes.
So … if several hundred people across an urban or suburban area have a system, and if all of them are turned on. Then you can communicate across your area of interest. Worthless to me living in an area with one person per square mile, most of them with little interest in technology beyond how far they must drive to get a cell signal. I’ll stick with my HAM HF system for beyond visual range, and my UHF/VHF HAM systems within visual range.
That wave shark network would be nice 👍
I’m gonna be hearing “DEE-vice” in my dreams.
Could this be used for example with the ARLO camera system? Were in Hi Springs outside G Ville.
I appreciate your efforts to inform folks about off grid comms but you can literally build a LORA device for about $50. You can build a repeater for about $100.
The average person can’t. And, many people would rather buy a turnkey solution because their time is worth more than saving pennies. Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. There’s no one size fits all solution for the vast majority of topics. Each to their own.
@@SurvivalDispatch Respectfully, the average person can. How do I know this? I’m an average person and I did it. The time factor is minimal. I learned how to do it over a weekend. In a true emergency people need skills not just a product.
@@ascott701 I've worked in the tech industry for decades and respectfully most people can't. Also, as your pay grade goes up, the less sense it makes to tackle DIY projects. Again, there's no one size fits all. If DIY works for you, that's fantastic. It doesn't mean it's the best solution for everybody else. Also, WaveShark use a bunch of American made components and pay Americans to build and support their products.
I'd love to hear more about it. I'm not one for the higher priced items or who can spend money for convenience. I need reasonable, budget and cheaper. Most everything I own I purchased on sale and clearance.
@@ascott701 I'm in agreement with the other person who commented
(Harry T ?) and suggested you start your own channel for "how to" on diy option.
No offense intended but "American made" DOESN'T always equate to "quality" product although it does promote job growth, although at a higher cost in most cases. Current conflict in Ukraine (and others) exposes how poorly our overpriced, over-hyped US military equipment performs.
Finally a way I can finally leave this stupid raft I have been in sea for 8days straight I have been eating electricity
Nah, I'll just stick with smoke signals, the keen eyes of the Hawk, and the howl of the coyote.
The problem with these is its all line of sight, meaning anything in the way to block the signal is going to significantly cut down on the distance. Height is might, but at $200 each these will get very expensive.
Digital Goon & Cma Executor made an AH WAN using HackRF, DragonOS & custom antenna relay. Bandwidth on LoRa isn’t the wide for data tx.
I just want to confirm, the product that is for sale in the online store is for a SINGLE device, not a pair correct?
The WaveShark Communicators are $199 each. The WaveShark Repeaters are $249 each.
$150 bucks for a $30 circuit board?? 10$ enclosure, a battery. I built my own last year...this is nothing new..except its over priced.
If you have the ability to provide better value at a better price, you should launch your own product.
Amen to that. For a turnkey solution the WaveSharks are a great value for the average person. How many people are capable of building their own stuff from components? Not very many. WaveShark also have a ton of R&D behind them that makes them more robust than piecemealing something together.
For a turnkey solution it's really cheap, not many people can diy that kind of solution ( I can, but have no one to communicate with this kind of service 😔)
I know how to build my own computer, but I don't. Waste of time, and I would rather just buy a completed product.
@@68Tboy Amen. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Time is the most valuable commodity in the world. In many cases it's not worth expending the time to save pennies. Especially when you could be spending that time with your family. It's also relevant for many people who have a decent pay grade. Everything is relative and what one suits one person doesn't necessarily suit another who's life circumstances are different.
We built our own white boxes (desktop computers) for many years, but the warranty and convenience of buying from a tier one OEM eventually made more sense from a time and money perspective.
We're hardcore libertarians. Note the lower case L. Those Libertarian party people a nuts. We believe people should be able to do whatever they want, as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. It's a major pet peeve when people try to impose their way on others because they believe their way is the only way. That's BS and pure hubris.
Just like Meshtastic
So does this allow voice? I believe LORA will only do texts
LoRa will do data packets that can then be used by any protocol like VoIP etc. WaveShark have downloadable free gateway software to run on a computer with a WaveShark Communicator attached by USB. Any device Bluetoothed to a WaveShark Communicator on the LAN side can use any other installed apps to reach the Internet no different than if they were connected by WIFI or Ethernet.
@@SurvivalDispatch ook, cool. Thanks
Just get baofengs and and send encrypted one time pad messages
EMP will fry these.
There are varying levels of SHTF. The prospect of the entire country being knocked out by EMPs is extremely low. It would essentially mean Armageddon was underway and next to nobody will survive anyway. We don't live in a black and white world. There are a gazillion stages of grey.
EMP will fry almost everything, so it's better to have spare useful gadgets locked in a faraday cage
this is the same as meshtastic, just more expensive.
Meshtastic is a piecemeal solution. The radio equipment is comprised of SBCs without housings, that have to be fabricated by the end-user. It's for diehard techies, and as far as we know it does not come with the ability to deploy a gateway to provide Internet access to LAN side LoRa clients. The WaveShark is a turnkey solution. You're comparing apples and oranges.
How is this different than GoTenna which already has lots of users?
GoTenna is not a private mesh network. WaveShark is a 100% isolated, encrypted, private mesh network that you own outright with no recurring fees. Also, WaveShark provide free gateway software to allow all LAN mesh network clients to access the Internet with any network/data apps installed on them such as web browsers, email clients, social media clients etc.
If it's a signal. It can be picked up. So nice try
Well it depends . Yes but you would better off with a Feng and a yagi antenna
ncscout is a good course to take