I dont play DK nor shaman enh but man I never seen another class being so shit on by blizzard. I am meta slave so it doesnt touch me but I still think that thats fucked up to always nerf the most those 2 classes
@@Luntrus100 why? dk frost has only been a patch after almost 5 years and only for pve because pvp sucks, at the very least it deserved to stand out (I don't play dk in case you ask)
Bruh, but you have to do a perfect setup, which is extremely complicated and hard to do on this melee meta to throw those 24 lava bursts, and if by luck you set it up perfectly it's very easy to just LOS..
I think maybe Blizzard should use a machine learning algorithm to handle their class tuning from now on because it seems like the devs frequently miss the mark when adding buffs/nerfs. They always make a class too strong or too weak. For a game that has been doing this for 20 years you'd think they would have a more accurate way of class tuning.
WoW has had quite the balanced competitive scene if you ask me. Multiple cases where most classes are viable at the highest level. Rogue/Mage is something thats always there, but in terms of balacing MMORPG PvP, WoW seems like the best at it.
I think it's pretty simple. They don't play the game themselves and they don't look at player feedback, the only QA and testing that is done, is done on PTR by players. Bugs and balancing issues won't get changed unless there's enough of an uproar. That's the Blizzard way. And it's not just in PvP either, there's been scaling issues since release with level 10s 1 shotting every single dungeon boss, it was ignored and now we have low levels 2 shotting raid bosses in the BRD raid. Guild bank issue is still ignored, the vast majority of guild banks were emptied over night, literal decades of guild bank materials, gold, collectibles, rare items completely gone and there's been ZERO response from Blizzard. This happened over a month ago. There are still bugs in the game that has existed since Vanilla (combat bug). Since TWW release there's been a DC bug in BG Blitz/Shuffle, which you get punished for, despite it not being your fault. There's random oneshot bugs in PvP. This is just what's fresh in my mind, there's tons more.
The complete PvP department is a JOKE, If one exists at all, game is going to shit. Small indie passionate companies would fix this in a heartbeat and a multi billion corporation can't fix this at all (there are so many feedbacks, forums, reddit, youtube) and they just do what they think is right, they don't even play the game lol. Don't get me started on broken classes like feral and casters... This is just a spit in PvP community face, I really think they hate the PvP section.
It is getting so ridiculous and outta hand that i couldnt even go to work!! I felt physically sick! Threw up, feeling like im gonna die! This is so disgusting! Omgawd! Couldnt even look at my son in the eyes!!
@@beastlyshotzfulthey were fine before patch, a small buff would of been fine but it feels like a dev put a decimal or a number in the wrong place. There is a clip going around of a 25 mil DPS pull in a stone vault
@@comradeshmoo see? If ya have to explain it then it was wrong. Also, you’re supposed to use that saying when someone indicates they are having an exceptional experience that you’re mildly offended about. So, hey. Are you offended by his comment?
Is this seriously what pvp is going to become though? like the masses just slave to the meta because of tuning imbalance. is every flavour of the month shadow priest and feral druid now going to be elemental shamans? when does it end.
This is the problem with LEVELING AND GEARING for PvP being wayyyyy too fast and easy to do on multiple characters. It's already been like this for years and years, whatever class/comp is overtuned when balance patches hit, you see hundreds of them come out of nowhere and just flood PvP. If leveling and gearing were actually like literally any other MMO, this wouldn't be a problem. If they would actually separate PvP and PvE completely and quit doing ferris wheel balance patches and slowed down the infinite treadmill of HP/Damage/Healing/Power gains so that they could ACTUALLY get some balance within the game, the weekly meta slave bs wouldn't be nearly as bad and leveling/gearing insanely fast wouldn't be an issue really but sadly, Blizz gave up on actually caring about PvP almost a decade ago, it's a shell of what it was and what it could be and I miss WANTING to do it 12+ hours a day for enjoyment and to get better like I used to many many years ago.
Nah but it just fucks up the aspect of the game; back in Wotlk.. I remember everyone playing classes because they liked them, nothing was overwhelming.. OG Wotlk too not that new classic stuff
I played caster ele but now they removed hard cast pvp talent (vulcanic surge) for this insta burst shit, I cancelled my sub because this patch came out mid pvp season. Who wants to have changes every 2 weeks anyway….
It’s impressive how many times blizzard does the same thing with shaman over and over again. Don’t worry you mage players, this won’t last long like usual. You’ll end up on top again
I know we all can see Ven's going through a "bald Britney" phase, looking stoned and high all the time, but can we appreciate how fun his videos are now? Compared to when he was bitter and sad all the time? I know it is not healthy the way he is coping, but god damn this video made me laugh so much!
This build is a meme and works for rolling 1700 mmr in solo shuffle, but the moment ascendance ends, you have less consistent DPS than before, especially if you stack mastery and have zero haste. You're relegate to a 3 min cd. Fire ele doesn't have high uptime anymore, either. FS still on CD. Lava surge proc chance decreases per individual flame shock the more that you have out. It's also bloated with keybinds. I've played ele for over a decade, and I haven't had fun since legion.
@@ThatNiueanGuya spec where shammy doesn't need totems at all? Bro go play mage and get outta here, totems are a core mechanic of the class. Always has been
To be fair, there was one dude doing the same thing throughout Dragonflight, and Elemental Shaman wasn’t even considered overpowered back then. He stopped uploading new videos after WW launched, but I’m guessing he’ll be back soon.
the thing is, when you design a spec around proccing extra casts, and then people start getting good stats, you'lll just be constantly nerfing and buffing and nerfing again. its like they didnt learn anything the last 2 expansions with Elemental.
@@r-ex2945 It's been a little confusing because the arena meter has been showing different results with details for me as well and to this day I still don't know which one is real. Maybe details is bugged.
@DH-ht9pl what's a bug fully gearing haste all season then a rework happens mid season and I have to re gear mastery? That's a bug man that's a wild bug
he has so much fun oneshotting people and without any complains whatsoever. For some weird reason he trashtalked Rets when the ret rework happened, but rets didnt actually oneshot people they were just overall too strong. Now Ven runs around does unhealable dam oneshotting left and right but no trashtalk at all, nice.
@K33SKAAS yeah it's pretty weird out there. Time to kill for some specs, has been reduced to a second or two. Some specs are only twice as powerful as they're supposed to be, which isn't as bad. It's just crazy.
900k right into 2.2 mil in less than half second. Now blizzard wants me to believe that it’s actually possible to keep track of what’s actually going on in the fight while understanding what actually hits you and now with all these SPAM of info you should be focused enough… to do what? How in the world would that person survive this burst if you literally don’t have to set it up even….
Am playing classic SoD at this point Was big arena player,it just dosent cut it for me anymore,the pvp aspect of wow is not going in the right direction for years now
This is completely ridiculous. everytime i'm having fun , a stupid patch comes in and make the balance of the game even worse . glad i got at least my elite / glad tabard before quitting.
So, uh. I have learned today that San'layn is circumstantially busted as shit in PvP for UHDK. Turns out I can cause even tanks to disintegrate in seconds. The nerf is coming. I feel it in my bones.
damn that damage is absurd! they should definitely nerf DK.
Definitely nerf enh sham xD
Yeah DK are OP. They should nerf dmg and survivability
Love me some dk tears from the morning
I dont play DK nor shaman enh but man I never seen another class being so shit on by blizzard. I am meta slave so it doesnt touch me but I still think that thats fucked up to always nerf the most those 2 classes
@@Luntrus100 why?
dk frost has only been a patch after almost 5 years and only for pve because pvp sucks, at the very least it deserved to stand out (I don't play dk in case you ask)
just line the 24 lava bursts bro
😂
The way i fucking laughed lmao
Bruh, but you have to do a perfect setup, which is extremely complicated and hard to do on this melee meta to throw those 24 lava bursts, and if by luck you set it up perfectly it's very easy to just LOS..
@@ferbz5936 did you see the same footage i did? looked pretty easy to me.
@@terreurcodeyeah, I'm being sarcastic lol. Reddit has bunch of ele shamans stating what I'm saying.
I think maybe Blizzard should use a machine learning algorithm to handle their class tuning from now on because it seems like the devs frequently miss the mark when adding buffs/nerfs. They always make a class too strong or too weak. For a game that has been doing this for 20 years you'd think they would have a more accurate way of class tuning.
@@hushed6160 damn you owned his ass, well said sensei.
@@hushed6160 Do you want a cookie? It's not that serious.
@@hushed6160what about Valorant or cs2?
WoW has had quite the balanced competitive scene if you ask me. Multiple cases where most classes are viable at the highest level. Rogue/Mage is something thats always there, but in terms of balacing MMORPG PvP, WoW seems like the best at it.
I think it's pretty simple. They don't play the game themselves and they don't look at player feedback, the only QA and testing that is done, is done on PTR by players. Bugs and balancing issues won't get changed unless there's enough of an uproar. That's the Blizzard way.
And it's not just in PvP either, there's been scaling issues since release with level 10s 1 shotting every single dungeon boss, it was ignored and now we have low levels 2 shotting raid bosses in the BRD raid.
Guild bank issue is still ignored, the vast majority of guild banks were emptied over night, literal decades of guild bank materials, gold, collectibles, rare items completely gone and there's been ZERO response from Blizzard. This happened over a month ago.
There are still bugs in the game that has existed since Vanilla (combat bug). Since TWW release there's been a DC bug in BG Blitz/Shuffle, which you get punished for, despite it not being your fault. There's random oneshot bugs in PvP.
This is just what's fresh in my mind, there's tons more.
The complete PvP department is a JOKE, If one exists at all, game is going to shit. Small indie passionate companies would fix this in a heartbeat and a multi billion corporation can't fix this at all (there are so many feedbacks, forums, reddit, youtube) and they just do what they think is right, they don't even play the game lol. Don't get me started on broken classes like feral and casters... This is just a spit in PvP community face, I really think they hate the PvP section.
I love how we still complain about feral being "broken" yet they're no where close to doing dmg like Ele.
I dont think they have pvp department 😂
Blizzard is so stupid to be honest, do they even test a patch before dropping it ?
No we test it for them
Correct,this company belongs from gays and feminisms,what do you think
Absolutely ridiculous. Can't even play right now because of this cap.
it's weird seeing him get excited - this is terrible gameplay
It is getting so ridiculous and outta hand that i couldnt even go to work!! I felt physically sick! Threw up, feeling like im gonna die! This is so disgusting! Omgawd! Couldnt even look at my son in the eyes!!
blzzard isn't aware they are making a game
It’s gonna get hot fixed, the pve damage is also insane. They over did it on the patch
Yeah, with completely different builds too. So ele is in line for a huge nerf.
@@beastlyshotzfulthey were fine before patch, a small buff would of been fine but it feels like a dev put a decimal or a number in the wrong place. There is a clip going around of a 25 mil DPS pull in a stone vault
did everyone just forget about all the other specs that are busted? leave ele alone lmao
@@krewshal3374no other class can do this. You have zero idea what you're even spewing.
@@pxkdrakewell, say it when ret “accidentally” kills someone not even their main target back in DF season2
Yeah this totally makes me want to log back in after not playing for 2 weeks.
No matter what Ven says, all I hear is “make mage Even better so I can be happy again”
sounds like a you problem tbh
@@comradeshmooyou used that saying wrong
Ven doesn’t need mages to be OP he’s not a noob
@@SeemsLikeSomething lol no. if OP is hearing something ven isn't saying that's obviously OP's problem. l2read maybe?
@@comradeshmoo see? If ya have to explain it then it was wrong. Also, you’re supposed to use that saying when someone indicates they are having an exceptional experience that you’re mildly offended about. So, hey. Are you offended by his comment?
If this was warlock they would’ve hotfixed it before the patch went live
Lol what about rogue, they've tanked it since shadowlands.
Why do they always do that to warlocks?
Preach
Are you actually trying to say warlocks have never been OP? LMAOOOOOO
@@Fpsmedia1337 Not like this and they get nerfed quick!!
meanwhile MM hunter hitting for like your entire hp bar with two button presses. Please nerf frost DK again
Yea shaman op mm op nerf dk more!!!! Seems like that's blizzards thought process lol.
Lmao and unholy to be sure
It was a bug it's fixed now. Mm isn't that strong anymore
MM had one of the slowest one shots on Snup's video fam...even BM was faster. For that matter tanks were faster.
The moment shaman gets the nerf bat is the moment you will stop playing the shaman.
all he does is cry when his class gets owned by other casters,he 'll make one and play it and qq like in this video.
8:24 "its like you're in a casino being overstimulated", wonder how many Blizzard devs were replaced by King devs
Is this seriously what pvp is going to become though? like the masses just slave to the meta because of tuning imbalance. is every flavour of the month shadow priest and feral druid now going to be elemental shamans? when does it end.
It's already been like this. Now it's just worse..
And people wonder why we leave after exp launch!
@@heroman1322 It’s like that in every game, it’s a human issue rather than a specific game.
Cod, Fortnite, league, all of these have the “meta”
This is the problem with LEVELING AND GEARING for PvP being wayyyyy too fast and easy to do on multiple characters. It's already been like this for years and years, whatever class/comp is overtuned when balance patches hit, you see hundreds of them come out of nowhere and just flood PvP. If leveling and gearing were actually like literally any other MMO, this wouldn't be a problem.
If they would actually separate PvP and PvE completely and quit doing ferris wheel balance patches and slowed down the infinite treadmill of HP/Damage/Healing/Power gains so that they could ACTUALLY get some balance within the game, the weekly meta slave bs wouldn't be nearly as bad and leveling/gearing insanely fast wouldn't be an issue really but sadly, Blizz gave up on actually caring about PvP almost a decade ago, it's a shell of what it was and what it could be and I miss WANTING to do it 12+ hours a day for enjoyment and to get better like I used to many many years ago.
@@Tooamazin people would just quit instead of rerolling dont act like trapping someone on a dogshit class is going their game or your game more fun
Nah but it just fucks up the aspect of the game; back in Wotlk.. I remember everyone playing classes because they liked them, nothing was overwhelming.. OG Wotlk too not that new classic stuff
Love how ele has 0 casting required
that's basically every class melee can't be kited casters don't cast 2024 pvp
@@bravepotatoe7513 my demolock wants a word with you, because he cant cast at all besides his 2 free demon bolts.
In a weird twist of fate frost actually has to spam hardcast to do damage, which is good
I played caster ele but now they removed hard cast pvp talent (vulcanic surge) for this insta burst shit, I cancelled my sub because this patch came out mid pvp season. Who wants to have changes every 2 weeks anyway….
Such all casters.
"i have no idea what i'm doing"
*lands perfect combo every time*
When the ele shaman grounds your damage.. look at the healing meter lol
The end of the video explaining shaman pvp was literally spot on. Just flame shock here, flame shock there then brlbrlbrlbrl
Community - "feral is insane, nothing can compete"
Blizzard - "hold my beer"
It’s impressive how many times blizzard does the same thing with shaman over and over again. Don’t worry you mage players, this won’t last long like usual. You’ll end up on top again
lol any spec is broken when you’re a rank 1 playing at 1600 😂 saying “ I don’t even know what I’m doing “ classic 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah. Bait vidéo.. viewers will reroll sham and face déception 😅
@@Taessya lol everytime
I’ve played this game for 16 years. I’ve seen a lot of bullshit.
This patch feels straight up disrespectful. So depressing
This is nothing compared to the past.
I know we all can see Ven's going through a "bald Britney" phase, looking stoned and high all the time, but can we appreciate how fun his videos are now? Compared to when he was bitter and sad all the time? I know it is not healthy the way he is coping, but god damn this video made me laugh so much!
Ele hits like regular mage now, whats wrong with it?
Ive played this game for 20 years and ive still never seen a shaman named Elliott. Thats a top tier pun name.
This build is a meme and works for rolling 1700 mmr in solo shuffle, but the moment ascendance ends, you have less consistent DPS than before, especially if you stack mastery and have zero haste. You're relegate to a 3 min cd. Fire ele doesn't have high uptime anymore, either. FS still on CD. Lava surge proc chance decreases per individual flame shock the more that you have out.
It's also bloated with keybinds. I've played ele for over a decade, and I haven't had fun since legion.
No shot it feels sluggish out of insane half gcd one shot mode? Why would that be? That's kinda weird huh
@pxkdrake it feels bad he never has to cast and has more utility then most classes by a mile 😢
Doesn't matter if the other team is just dead.
i want a spec where shammy doesnt need totems at all...only reason I dont play it
@@ThatNiueanGuya spec where shammy doesn't need totems at all? Bro go play mage and get outta here, totems are a core mechanic of the class. Always has been
We ve waited for so many years, it will last less than a week, stay strong my dear shamans, in a few years we will be back again
This was a very fun way to start my morning, the laughs were had. I will not be stepping into arena for a bit after watching this though 🤣
Well, we know 100% that 1: blizzard does not do pvp at all and 2) this is a pattern at this point and 3) this shit is getting nerfed in 1 week.
The 2 mil non crit earth shock on that Druid was the definition of overkill lol.
To be fair, there was one dude doing the same thing throughout Dragonflight, and Elemental Shaman wasn’t even considered overpowered back then. He stopped uploading new videos after WW launched, but I’m guessing he’ll be back soon.
And they buffed frost mage and just announced more buffs for feral. Devs are absolutely clueless about PvP balance currently. Its complete trash.
The comparison to casino stimulation overload is so on point and had me cracking up. 🤣
And this is why i only play at the end of an expansion
Um congrats ? I enjoy the game the whole time , to each their own I guess ?
@@slamminsammy941 why even comment if your point is to each their own ?
@slamminsammy941
“Enjoy”
Average slop consumer
@@RyuMai he saying to each their own but is questioning his idea of playing only the end. LOOK AT THIS GUY EVERYONE LAUGH HE IS HURT
Who cares? Why are you people so afraid of unbalance?
Dogs on elem and bm very happy, they can pump only with broken talents
Ever since the ele mastery change they don’t know how to buff it without making it terrible or super strong
The fact they just don’t hard focus u at that point is wild
the thing is, when you design a spec around proccing extra casts, and then people start getting good stats, you'lll just be constantly nerfing and buffing and nerfing again. its like they didnt learn anything the last 2 expansions with Elemental.
Making ascendance automatically put flame shock on everyone was a great dev idea.
Literally insane!! They don’t even have time to wall because this is absolutely mind blowing they definitely were qq lmao
Can u send u oneshot Makro?
Hmmm.. more importantly, how is that priest doing MORE DAMAGE?
I said it aswell hahaha. But hey SP is still fine hahaha and venruki still saying ret is op hahaha
@@r-ex2945 It's been a little confusing because the arena meter has been showing different results with details for me as well and to this day I still don't know which one is real.
Maybe details is bugged.
Because we priests are a superior race. Loved by the light and the void.
Deal with it ugly hater
Sp is like the only caster that still has to cast leave them be
@@bingusbongus968 you shouldn't be worried.
You should add the chat overlay to your vids it’d be funny to see chats reaction and yours together
what's the weakaura that shows the important enemy cd's
you know things are bad with balancing when pika is on a feral druid and ven is on an ele shaman O.O
I swear they shadow nerfed them last night
I love how they try and fail at making enhance relevant by giving them massive buffs but they just look at ele shaman and they become an OP nightmare.
meanwhile demolocks: guess i'll die.
It's fun but as a shaman main I was not happy I had to completely re gear my character mid season without Conquest cap being gone
Its a bug bro calm down
@DH-ht9pl what's a bug fully gearing haste all season then a rework happens mid season and I have to re gear mastery? That's a bug man that's a wild bug
@@HamboneOG Haste build is still better unless you play at 1700mmr
@maagi1 oh nice I'm just bitching to bitch tbh I'm a wow player man I haven't even tested my ele lol playing dev 😂
Can we talk about all the new glad hunter with the 6m bug ?
It's fixed lol
Could you maybe show your talent tree....?
Is there a link to the build maybe?
Imagine if blizzard hired people who knew what they were doing but that's impossible.
Is on weekend AWC again? Than we will see a few ele gameplay
What's the name of his character? Procpooper a dark iron dwarf?
Did I hear a RUDE BUSTER remix in there? Hell yeah.
There’s no way it stays like this right? But incase it does… lemme get that one shot macro lol
At least they nerfed the fire mage, everything is balanced now.
Insane damage, they might nerf DK again
he has so much fun oneshotting people and without any complains whatsoever. For some weird reason he trashtalked Rets when the ret rework happened, but rets didnt actually oneshot people they were just overall too strong. Now Ven runs around does unhealable dam oneshotting left and right but no trashtalk at all, nice.
When I saw the title, I immediately knew it was going to be Venruki complaining about Sham again 😪
why there is no buld?
Maybe it's just me but some spells don't get stopped from inturupts anymore?
No it’s not you. It’s a bug and it’s one of many game breaking bugs that came with the anniversary.
@K33SKAAS yeah it's pretty weird out there. Time to kill for some specs, has been reduced to a second or two. Some specs are only twice as powerful as they're supposed to be, which isn't as bad. It's just crazy.
This is an embarrassment for a company with 20 years experience to release shit content like this and actually charge people to play their game…
They don’t have 20 years experience tho all these employees are noobs basically all the OGs have left or been fired there’s not many left
900k right into 2.2 mil in less than half second. Now blizzard wants me to believe that it’s actually possible to keep track of what’s actually going on in the fight while understanding what actually hits you and now with all these SPAM of info you should be focused enough… to do what? How in the world would that person survive this burst if you literally don’t have to set it up even….
whats the talent build
whats the addon to have less buffs/debuffs on target?
mage to do well = phd
other classes when fotm Urr Durr idk what is going on
Just let the shamans have this expansion...they've been waiting 20 years.
ive never played shaman before... im about to
What's the swifty macro?
I real talk think i bumped into you in solo yesterday. Ele sham ate me like a bag of chips in 4 seconds. A few times
Yes Blizzard really outdone themselves with this patch.
Wow this is crazy, better Nerf ARMS Warrior again!
Queued my ele now and it was nothing like this idk wtf im doing wrong, I've been multi 2.4 xp and im getting owned by hunters over and over
I dont know whats going on, no clue: Every top ele shaman player ever
Talent link pls
I was on yesterday and I definitely felt stronger but not this strong lol. Hectic.
When you play WoW but you are the main character
Yeah PVP is absolutely cooked in this game. I’m convinced nobody at blizzard actually PvPs, this would’ve been caught in testing easily.
Am playing classic SoD at this point
Was big arena player,it just dosent cut it for me anymore,the pvp aspect of wow is not going in the right direction for years now
damn they should totally buff ele survivability :P
why is this this way? Blizzard cannot test 1 times this one reworked class?
You spoken again about eles,where is your video about mages doing 1.5m frostfire and 1.3 icylance while pressing space button and jumping?
blizzard need to stop redisigning classes every 2 years, so they can balance it, but it never happends
Its like the ret rework from df s1, but on crack and classwide 😅
This is completely ridiculous. everytime i'm having fun , a stupid patch comes in and make the balance of the game even worse . glad i got at least my elite / glad tabard before quitting.
So, uh. I have learned today that San'layn is circumstantially busted as shit in PvP for UHDK. Turns out I can cause even tanks to disintegrate in seconds. The nerf is coming. I feel it in my bones.
Hush. Dk always first on list to nerf to unplayable. Don't rush it. It will be nerfed by friday!
Can you put an import code for talents for me?
Awesome video
Shaman is that 1 class if you see it doing great it means in a couple of weeks it will be almost unplayable
Get ready for the FOTM train
Why u dont show building…
I like how not 1 guy in that arena decided to focus cc you xD
yup, now shuffle is ruined again.
Every time I think about re-subbing I see something like this and come back to my senses.
Why are you avoiding fun?
You’re smart it’s all fucked up lately
Why don't people just dodge 27 meatballs throwing at them???
Because it's potato mmr.
no build ?
the balance of pvp
1400 MMR players... no buttons pressed ya this doesnt say much at all, seen ALOT of specs delting ppl atm surv feral enhance sub