My Hot-Tent Wood Stove Setup for Preventing Floor Melt...and more.

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @bikemannc
    @bikemannc Рік тому

    What an excellent subject to share from your long experience in the bush. I will definitely be forever grateful you shared this! Thank you again! 👍

  • @bwbeney
    @bwbeney 3 роки тому +4

    Great advice and very helpful, Martin. Looking forward to avoiding the pool of water in our front entrance the next time we go out.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks and glad you found it helpful. I'm sure it will make a difference on your future trips.
      Happy camping,
      - Martin

    • @bwbeney
      @bwbeney 3 роки тому +2

      @@PineMartyn One other quick question if you don't mind me asking. What do you place under your sleep system when on the snow? Tarp? Pad? We have not camped on Crown land so a bow bed is not an option. Once again, thanks.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  3 роки тому +2

      @@bwbeney Great question. I lay down a waterproof tarp, then my inflatable sleeping pad on that, and atop that goes my closed-cell foam pad, and lastly my sleeping bag.
      When camping on Crown land and spruce or fir boughs are plentiful, I make a bough bed and put my sleep system atop that for greater insulation and comfort.
      Cheers,
      -Martin

    • @bikemannc
      @bikemannc Рік тому +1

      ​@@PineMartynHad been wondering what replacement for my newly purchased closed cell pad would work as the pad felt rock hard and unusable. Is your waterproof tarp run only the length of your pad, bag length? Or just inside the tents' inside perimeter covering everyone's sleeping area? ( 1st year using a Hot Tent and stove in the NC Winter forests).

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  7 місяців тому

      @@bikemannc I apologize for not replying sooner, but I have only now noticed your question. The waterproof ground tarp I use just covers my sleeping area, but it could be larger if you wished. I'd just keep anything that could burn or melt far enough away from the stove.
      Hope this helps,
      - Martin

  • @boonedockery7220
    @boonedockery7220 3 роки тому +1

    Absolutely Brillant! It may be common knowledge to some, however, I am a novice Hot Tenter. The information you provided is invaluable! Thank You!

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  3 роки тому +1

      I really appreciate the kind comment and am glad it was useful to you. Happy hot-tenting!
      Cheers,
      - Martin

  • @MeetMeOutside
    @MeetMeOutside 4 роки тому +1

    Nicely done Martin ! Very enjoyable video ! Cheers !

  • @AbuInsights
    @AbuInsights 4 роки тому +3

    Love your ideas and thank you for sharing . Greetings from Ontario.

  • @ATOMark
    @ATOMark 4 роки тому +1

    Grest tips my friend! I really like that skid setup. Not only does the wood shield the snow from the heat but it also allows for air to circulate under and keeps a little cold air buffer under the whole setup. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge brother! That's the best way I have seen it done!

  • @schultzoutdoors8799
    @schultzoutdoors8799 4 роки тому +1

    This looks like a really good setup. Impressed at the lack of snowmelt! Thanks for sharing. Dan.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому

      Thanks Dan. I'm glad you liked it. It's proven to be a really good setup. Even I was impressed at the lack of melt after three days of above-freezing temperatures.
      - Martin

  • @Hammocksandhikes
    @Hammocksandhikes 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent video! Exactly the information I needed!

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  3 роки тому

      I'm delighted to hear that. I hope you have fun out there.🙂
      Cheers,
      - Martin

  • @brianspencer4220
    @brianspencer4220 4 роки тому +2

    Hi Martin: I always appreciate that you bring your brain & thought processes with you on your trips. Necessity can be eased into with experience & forethought. Thanks Brian 79

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому +3

      Thanks for the kind words. I find my camping trips go more smoothly when I remember to bring my brain with me. lol
      Thanks, as always, for tuning in,
      - Martin

  • @sambrandt3688
    @sambrandt3688 4 роки тому +1

    Very interesting, its not until you mentioned all this stuff that It dawned on me that there are tons of little bits of information needed to be safe and comfortable while you are in the woods. I am sure this is what is called common sense. But unless you have camped a lot or have a fellow camper who has, you will never know about this stuff. I have never camped and over the past few years find myself needing to prepare. Thank you from a long time (2012) subscriber.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому +1

      It's interesting what you say about common sense. When it comes to camping (and undoubtedly many other areas of life), one often doesn't know what is common sense or obvious. When you see someone who is experienced in some domain, and you see what they are doing, it strikes one as common sense, but before seeing what they do to be safe and comfortable, one might not have had a clue what steps to take, what gear to bring, or what skills to develop. But, that's the beauty of UA-cam; we all get to benefit from people who are knowledgeable in some little slice of life that we're still new to, or just curious about.
      Thanks for watching all these years.
      Gratefully,,
      - Martin

    • @sambrandt3688
      @sambrandt3688 4 роки тому

      @@PineMartyn Yup, between common sense and the obvious, this is why humans have flat foreheads! LOL

  • @retiredoutside
    @retiredoutside 4 роки тому +2

    I love the way you use science in your backwoods adventuring. You're great at explaining the reasons for your decisions, and everything is always well thought out. I'm curious to know how much of how you do things you figured out on your own, and how much of it you learned and adapted from others. I also wonder how many years it took you to come up with your way of doing things, and whether it's evolving much any more. We love your videos and always learn something from them - keep them coming.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому +3

      That's a very interesting question. I couldn't accurately specify how much of what went into my own camping know-how came from personal discovery and learning from others, but I think it's safe to say most of what I have learned I have learned from others (books, videos, documentaries, personal conversations, blogs, etc.), but invariably there is conflicting advice from all such sources, so one has to inevitably discover for oneself what works best among the things one has learned from other or come up with on one's own. I do make a point of never recommending a practice that I have not tried or hasn't worked well for me or consistently enough.
      I am grateful for your compliments and especially because you are yourself a very experienced outdoorsman. Someday, a trip together is in order.
      Cheers,
      - Martin

  • @justinflott5133
    @justinflott5133 3 роки тому +2

    Missing your videos. Hope you are doing well.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  3 роки тому +1

      Hi Justin,
      We are doing well here and keeping safe. I've never been a high-output video maker, but I definitely have some videos in the works. Forgive the turtle-like speed.
      Keep well and safe,
      - Martin

  • @MiscMitz
    @MiscMitz 4 роки тому +1

    Very informative. If I get a hot tent, I will set up this way

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you. I trust you'll find it works for you as well.
      Cheers,
      - Martin

  • @gcruishank9663
    @gcruishank9663 3 роки тому +1

    Great advice! I want to use a tent floor on part of the ground in my tipi. Don't want the snow/ice to melt then freeze again and have the floor stuck to the ice.

  • @CanoehoundAdventures
    @CanoehoundAdventures 4 роки тому +2

    Great Tips Martin... newbies like me truly appreciate the tips... Dennis, Canoehound Adventures

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому

      That's very nice of you to say, Dennis. And by the way, we need to plan a trip together sometime.
      Cheers!
      - Martin

  • @HerEcolife
    @HerEcolife 4 роки тому +1

    Salut Martyn de la vieille souche ;) In from Raindance. Nice to meet you!

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому

      Thanks for visiting my channel. I hope you enjoyed yesterday's livestream.
      Cheers!
      - Martin

  • @ItsGoodintheWoods
    @ItsGoodintheWoods 4 роки тому +1

    Nice set up. I like your tent. Hot tents are awesome!

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому

      They are indeed. I find the initial investment in new gear (tent, stove, sleds, etc.) to be entirely worth it for the comfort and ease that hot-tenting affords us. The tent, by the way, is a Snowtrekker Hybrid (8.5' x 11').
      Cheers,
      - Martin

  • @papabear2515
    @papabear2515 4 роки тому +1

    Hope you two are well and safe. Look forward to seeing what is your next trip

  • @prayfornathannatureshow
    @prayfornathannatureshow 4 роки тому +1

    Great video well packed with helpful information.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому

      Thank you Nathan. I appreciate that kind comment.
      Cheers!
      - Martin

  • @DorothysHobbyFarm
    @DorothysHobbyFarm 4 роки тому

    Those were really good tips and thank you for sharing.

  • @ItsGoodintheWoods
    @ItsGoodintheWoods 4 роки тому +1

    This is a great explanation of the process.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому

      Thanks very much. Glad you found it informative.
      Cheers,
      - Martin

  • @FisherGirl333
    @FisherGirl333 4 роки тому +1

    Can you please comment or create another video explaining how putting 2 ninety degree angles in your hot tent stove pipe is a no-no 🤔. Thank you for finally explaining a proper stove setup. I worry about some of our backcountry friends setups and want everyone to stay as safe as possible out there. Great video.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому +1

      Hmm, that's an interesting thing you describe. I think the only time I have seen two 90 degree elbows used in a hot tent is in very large tents for large groups, where the stove jack hole was high on one vertical wall (not in the roof, as it common in most smaller hot-tents). Such tents invariably have a quite large stove with very wide diameter stove pipes which make it possible to have 2 such elbow joints and remain sturdy and avoid backflow of smoke into the tent. I'd certainly caution against this in more typical camping hot-tents.
      I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
      Cheers!
      - Martin

  • @terryw.milburn8565
    @terryw.milburn8565 4 роки тому +1

    Hi, Martin ; Great Explanation on this ! Thanks & Be Well, Friend ! Happy Trails From Down East. ATB T God Bless

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому

      Thank you Terry. I really appreciate you two tuning in all these years.
      Cheers!
      - Martin

  • @trailtrashoutdoors8173
    @trailtrashoutdoors8173 4 роки тому

    New friends here from Trail Trash Outdoors! I have always wanted to live in the Northern Wilderness, in some kind of hot tent or yurt. Even a weekender would be an experience! Thanks for sharing and Much love-TTO

  • @ThePursuitofPassion
    @ThePursuitofPassion 4 роки тому +1

    Great advice and pointers Martin! Already been employing some of the techniques you've mentioned.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks David. I appreciate the compliment. I look forward to the day when you make instructional videos of your own, alongside trip reports, because you're a veritable wealth of knowledge and experience, from which others (including myself), could greatly benefit.
      Cheers,
      - Martin

    • @ThePursuitofPassion
      @ThePursuitofPassion 4 роки тому

      @@PineMartyn You are too kind Martin. Not too sure about that, but thank you.

  • @VesicABand
    @VesicABand 4 роки тому +1

    Martyn, my wife and I loved your 11 day trip on crown land and you and your wife has inspired us to follow in your footsteps on a smaller level at first. My question is, do you leave your car at home or do you feel it is safe to just park on dirt roads etc. It is our only concern when exploring. Thanks you sir.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  3 роки тому +2

      I apologize for not replying sooner. I missed this comment and am only now noticing it. Excellent question.
      We leave our car parked wherever we can, such that it's not blocking any road or trail, not hindering drivers by being too close to the road, and not in the way of any plows in winter.
      Invariably, one has to go to the Crown land in question and look for a suitable place to park near to where one wants to start hiking, snowshoeing, or canoeing . Sometimes, the best place to park is not as close as one would like, so one parks where one can and puts in the work of hiking, hauling, portaging, whatever distance is necessary to start one's trip. Remember, it's not important that you be parked right where you're about to start your hike or camping trip. It's more important that it be off the road or trail enough that it won't be a hazard to others, but wont' get stuck either.
      I have never had any harm come to my vehicles in the bush. Break-ins are common at park trailheads because thieves know there will be vehicles there unattended for hours or days and probably there is gear or valuables inside. When you're out in the middle of nowhere, the chances are slim that anyone will even see your vehicle. Remember, anglers and hunters routinely park in the middle of nowhere every season and few are every damaged or broken into. Your vehicle is at greater risk in a Walmart parking lot. Just don't leave any valuables or any food in the car. Bears can and will tear their way into your vehicle.
      Thanks for the question and the kind comments, and my apologies again for the late reply.
      Cheers,
      - Martin

  • @duggoneit
    @duggoneit 4 роки тому +1

    Well done Martin! Cheers bud!

  • @shovelhead8
    @shovelhead8 4 роки тому +1

    All good tips. Thank you, Martyn

  • @jjjvclub
    @jjjvclub 4 роки тому +1

    Very informative, thanks for sharing!

  • @111Watersong
    @111Watersong 4 роки тому +1

    Great set up!

  • @xxgg
    @xxgg 2 місяці тому

    Hello from 2024.
    Always enjoyed your video PineMartyn.
    If there isn't as much snow on the ground, what would be the best way to minimize the ground becoming muddy? poly tarp on the floor with canvas tarp on top?
    Also, is it safe to place pine wood under the stove? tree sap can be dangerous, no?
    In case of camping at a developed campground during winter, what other materials can be used to prevent melt other than the wood? as we can't freely gather woods in provincial parks.
    Finally, before setting up the tent or wood stove on the snow, should you compact down the snow?
    Can you make a detailed video on how to maintain a large canvas hot tent during winter seasona and off season?
    Also, most importantly how to prevent? or treat mold issues?
    As we all know, winter hot tent + wood stove is a large sum of investment and I am seriously considering it near future.
    Thanks!

  • @RaindanceBushcraft
    @RaindanceBushcraft 4 роки тому +1

    Good to know those tips for sure.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому

      Thanks, good sir.
      - Martin

  • @KevinOutdoors
    @KevinOutdoors 4 роки тому +1

    Well done, good info!

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому

      Thanks, Kevin. I'm glad you found it informative.
      Cheers,
      - Martin

  • @suezaple4950
    @suezaple4950 4 роки тому

    Good tips thank you

  • @PopleBackyardFarm
    @PopleBackyardFarm 4 роки тому

    nice set up

  • @mr.fisher3973
    @mr.fisher3973 3 роки тому

    Love your channel - are you still making videos? Noticed you haven't posted in a while?

  • @filmic1
    @filmic1 4 роки тому +1

    Terrific!! Thanks.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому

      You're most welcome, and thanks for leaving a comment. :)
      - Martin

  • @dav1dbone
    @dav1dbone 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Martyn, when pitching your tent, if there's under a foot of snow could you not just shovel it away until you hit ground?

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому +1

      That's an excellent question. There are several reason why one does not shovel right to the ground.
      1) Shoveling such a large area in deep snow would be a considerable effort and would have the result that one's tent was sitting in a hole, surrounded by snow, thus making one's sleeping shelf a local cold sink for cold air at night.
      2) Camping atop the snow means one can have as flat and level a floor as one wishes (one just packs it down flat with snowshoes well before unpacking and pitching the tent to let the snow sinter hard). There's no reason to think the ground will be flat or level, whereas the snow above can be made both flat and level with ease.
      3) One never knows what lies beneath the snow, which can include rocks, downed trees, limbs, frozen shrubbery, and other ground litter, all of which is frozen hard and stuck to the ground and would be difficult to remove. If one is in a park, setting up on a designated flat, level tent pad, then one could in principle shovel down to a flat, clear, leavel spot, but in the bush, the chances of the ground being clear of obstacles beneath the snow is very low.
      4) If one shovels down to frozen ground, the heat of the stove will begin to thaw the ground, resulting in a messy mush of muck and whatever ground litter is there.
      Thanks for the question,
      - Martin

    • @dav1dbone
      @dav1dbone 4 роки тому

      @@PineMartyn Thank-you for taking the time to get back to me with such a concise explanation, I always enjoy watching your videos, David

    • @trisha7437
      @trisha7437 3 роки тому

      This makes a lot of sense, and goes against what we're often told. The voice of reason and experience.

  • @lastbloke
    @lastbloke 4 роки тому +1

    If the surrounding wood is absorbing all the heat instead (of the snow), isn't there a risk that it catch fire?

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому +4

      That is a good question. The wood absorbs the infrared radiation from the stove, acting as a thermal mass, meaning it in turn releases some of that heat to the air and objects it contacts, so it will not accumulate heat to it's kindling point. Contrast this with a chunk of wood inside the stove, where it absorbs heat from burning wood around it , but accumulates it so much faster than it can dissipate it, that the wood in the stove eventually reaches its kindling point and combusts into flame. The only way a chunk of wood could catch fire while outside the stove is if it were very close to the stove AND the stove was hot for so long that the nearby wood would become charred and eventually combust. But realistically, a stove in a hot tent is not kept burning constantly and the wood outside the stove loses its heat constantly. Furthermore, part of the benefit of putting wood around the stove is that it starts off frozen (and often with some snow or ice on it) and it eventually warms and dries, at which point it is now ready to use as fuel in the stove and newly cut frozen wood is used in place of it around the stove.
      Hope this helps.
      Cheers,
      -Martin

    • @lastbloke
      @lastbloke 4 роки тому +1

      @@PineMartyn That helps a lot, thank you!!

  • @bobdraws
    @bobdraws 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Martin, thanks for this. I just got my first stove and I’m waiting on my hot tent to arrive. My question is: do you use a false bottom in your stove? If not, why or have you had problems? Thanks.

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому +1

      Hi John. Yes, I do use a false bottom in the stove. Many stove manufacturers sell false bottoms for their stoves. I bought my stove secondhand and it didn't have a false bottom, so I fashioned one using tin snips on a light piece of metal flashing I found at Habitat Restore for cheap.
      When in use, it raises the floor of the stove about half an inch off the actual bottom, thus protecting the bottom from premature burnout and permits some air to circulate under the fire, improving combustion. When not in use, the false bottom stays in the stove, but I flip it upside down, so as to maximize room inside the stove box and so I can still fit the nesting stove pipes, elbow, damper and shelf, etc.
      Hope this helps,
      - Martin

    • @bobdraws
      @bobdraws 4 роки тому

      @@PineMartyn Thank you!

  • @Lowpropo
    @Lowpropo 3 роки тому

    What if I cover the ground with a tarp?

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  3 роки тому +1

      Tarps are seldom used in hot tents, for a variety of reasons. First, a plastic tarp on snow or even frozen ground is dangerously slippery, which is a hazard in a confined space with a burning hot stove in it. The only place for a tarp in a hot-tent, in my view, is directly under your sleeping mattresses to prevent them from getting damp or punctured, but the tarp should not be anywhere where you might need to stand or walk.
      The second consideration is that a tarp won't reflect any significant heat from the stove. In fact, if it's a darker colour (such as one of those blue plastic tarps), and because at tarp is so thin, it will absorb the stove's heat and conduct it to the snow beneath, causing melt. And of course, you don't want any sort of plastic or fabric under your stove than can melt or combust. A plastic sheet or tarp under or right near your stove will melt.
      However, there is a kind of fabric that people can use under a stove that is fireproof and waterproof, and that is Typar (house wrap). Unfortunately, being thin, it won't act as much of a thermal mass (absorbing stove heat to prevent melt) and instead communicate heat to the snow beneath, resulting in some melt, but it would be better than using nothing. The reason I don't use Typar is that it's incredibly slippery on snow - even more so than a plastic tarp.
      The best thing to cover your snowy floor in the tent is closed cell foam pads. They are a little slippery, but not as much as a tarp, and you can sit, kneel, or lie down on them in the tent and be quite well-insulated from the cold snow beneath. Sitting on a tarp which rests on snow is absolutely freezing cold.
      Hope this helps,
      - Martin

  • @MeetMeOutside
    @MeetMeOutside 4 роки тому +1

    Hello friend. I will be tagging you on a video, hopefully you will participate, if not, no worries. Hope your well, Peace

    • @PineMartyn
      @PineMartyn  4 роки тому

      I just watched your video before seeing this comment. Thanks again, my friend.
      Cheers!
      - Martin

  • @leoseven9343
    @leoseven9343 4 роки тому

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  • @yourvinestowine2781
    @yourvinestowine2781 3 роки тому

    Miss your informative videos??

  • @ThailandOutdoors
    @ThailandOutdoors 4 роки тому

    Found you from Cragdeller's coffee video, I look forward to checking out your videos. Stop by and check out my channel if you get a chance.

  • @outdooraddventure
    @outdooraddventure 3 роки тому

    Everything puts out a certain amount of electromagnetic radiation