Big issue I always see is kids trying to do all these complicated letters and styling when they just don't have the experience yet. I see that and always think it looks like crap. As you always say keep it simple!
Rite start with block or bubble keep it legible starting trying to do wild style and pieces isnt the route but of course everyone wants to be a beast rite away lol
#1 rule for me is CAN CONTROL. Your Throwie has to Flow out fluently with little thought or effort almost muscle memory like. I do the best throwies or Hallows I should say when I'm zoned out.
I did my first ever throwie with mtn hardcore cans on my closet door( i really recommend doing that first but dont do the same throwie out in streets) did it with my dad finsihed it in 20 mins was a bubble OBK red fill with black outline and blue effects around the outline it was the same exact one my dad did when he was first getting into it it was a exact replica of his we were both very happy about it it looked awsome KEEP IT SIMPLE!
One of the biggest mistakes I see that I used to do is trying to make your lines as clean as possible and sort of shaping your letters around that. But that’s kinda counterproductive, you should worry about practicing the structure first and worry about cleanliness later. The clean lines will come with practice
lol shit if you know them that well you probably know them better then i remember them haha. I currently dont intend to share more stories as many of the ones i have left not even my family knows and i dont think they'ed feel too nice finding out through youtube first
Nice video! I've been waiting for this one. I like the direction your going with your videos. I actually have been watching your videos for a while now but haven't had the time to deal with my UA-cam account. I would love to join your community.
@@Theartistblock Thanks man, I appreciate what you do on this channel. I'll try to get in on some critiques when I finish a few more pieces. I think I pretty much have the fundamentals down, but I've just been struggling with developing my style, and how to apply fundamentals in an advanced way.
My best tip I can give is to just bite letters in the beginning, I know, no one wants to do it, all artist want to be original, but I wasted a lot of time trying to be overly original without actually succeeding at it. In fact when I started getting up I was confused as a new tag for another writer who I admired and I guess I subconsciously stole his style. I guess this writer had beef. Regardless don’t be afraid to copy it will get you to where you want to be faster. Just think of it like tattooing those post traditional alt traditional artist didn’t just create that line work, it was burned into their minds from non stop tracing. Eventually they went off on there own, with there own original style or twist.
Already commented but I 100% think that someone should spend time tagging and getting up rather than jumping straight into doing pieces and calling themselves a writer I spent 20ish years tagging before moving onto throws I know that's extreme but never felt like I needed more than tags 🤷🏻
So if you draw the letter O the O is the positive space ( the space being occupied) and the area in the middle as well as the area outside of the O are both negative space ( the space not occupied)
Negative space refers to any space not occupied by volume. In other words empty area. For example, if you look at a doughnut, the hole in the middle is negative space ( empty space) while the doughnut itself is positive space ( space that's occupied)
Learn other peoples style and copy as many different letters as you can, eventually you’ll create your own, don’t be afraid to copy. A lot of artist from nyc are giving there tag be an established artist. Many are not as original as they seem. They are literally copying what another artist drew for them. A popular example would be cope2 getting his tag from cap, that is a common process. Not that all graffiti artist do this, but usually the people that were getting up, and established in the whole scene came from a lineage of writers.
Remember in kindergarten when you were learning to write and you used that paper with the top, middle, and bottom line? Use that same concept when doing your throw, so when you practice, make yourself a top line and bottom line for you that act as a reference for your cap height.
Nice video! But when you do Throw Ups can you bite? I mean yeah sure a name withe the exact same style copied is biting.. But often the letters like an little "a" are made pretty much the same - so they follow the same concept and often look similar to other people's throwies. Or am I wrong 😂😂🤔
You can allways bite but dont you want to be original just sketch your own letter than you dont have a full recycled piece less likely to get bombed over
@@gregoryt.miller6852 yeah that's what I am doing(the thing with own letters) ... For real I've never bited anyone's stuff. Maybe I formulated it the wrong way. I mean you have a really simple throwie with letters like an little "a". But I saw writers who have an "a" in their name and they really look similar.. And that's the point! Sure the really basics like a line you can't bite (That's not biting) But what about throwies when is it biting??
@@brake2064 i mean at some point there is allways going to be some similar aspects its impossible not to correct? So going back to the main rule in anything just make sure your having fun doing it than thats all that matters so go kill it and have fun my friend:)
hey i was wondering if you could help me on my tags in general, my tag name is netwrk(spelled right) and im having trouble with the flow of the e and the t and i also have trouble with the r and the k, thank you
Flow problems are a result of adding too much style, basic straight letters flow automatically withough you having to do anything so if you're having problems it's because you're adding too much style. In this case keep it simple and work on basic print fonts with 0 style. style will only make learning harder and make it take multiple times longer to get better at graffiti
art for sure has rules and you can factually make mistakes in graffiti. If you write for example Yety and you spell it VETY then you made a mistake. Letter structure is a core fundamental and with that you get negative space management and weight instantly. thats not even including the other fundamentals or elements of art. If art had no rules then everyone would be Leonardo da Vinci but that cl the case. Anyone would be able to be a tattoo artist but once again, not the case, anyone could draw comic books but once again, not the case, why? because not everyone understands the rules to art.
@@Theartistblock So youre kind of saing that for example antistyle is a mistake? And the example with "then everyone could be a tatto artist" is not very good because in case of tattoos someone wants a motive for example a snake and in graffiti nobody really says you what to do. Im still folloing these "rules of graffiti" because i just stick to the whole style thing.
@@V0lny Anti-style is not a mistake, but an excuse 99% of the time. People that have a completely different and far out style, that still looks dope, have to know the rules of art far better than those with more mainstream style. In other words, what looks like shit is not anti-style, it's just what it looks like - shit. So you can start throwing literal crap at a wall and I guarantee you, it will look better than what most "anti-styles" wannabe stuff. Probably not what you wanted to hear, also you are right about something. Nobody will tell you what to do. But whether your stuff will get recognition, respect or even just look nice to someone, with the slightest bit of feeling, will all have to do with knowing the rules and much later, a way in which they can be broken. If you want to see a 'weird' style, search for Kans handstyle on UA-cam. The final product is completely out of the norm, but the man knows damn well what he is doing, while most people calling their 'style' anti-style do not. There is a writer in my city telling everyone he has been doing graffiti since '84 and that he is doing anti-style. I don't know him personally, but even if the '84 thing is true, he and his "crew" are STILL a bunch of toys hiding under the pretense of anti-style. Nobody is telling him what to do. The saddest part is, if his claims are true, soon 40 years will pass and no graffiti artist worth his salt respects him in any way and that fact will not change, until the day he dies or stops writing. But that is completely fine with me. The guy can't do a decent throw and demands some kind of recognition? Maybe from some noob that has been doing this for a month or 3 of his best buddies that wouldn't know the difference between The Raft of the Medusa and a turd if it hit them in the face. Enough ranting. Go watch the video, I told you about and make sure to also check the comments. Funny how "hardcore bomber" toys go crazy, when someone is better than them. To stay on-topic, I personally hate it when jackasses pull off a shitty toy throw, then make a cloud (why?) that crosses my throw/handstyle. Also,
#1 tip: keep it simple
Absolutely #1😂 learned the hard way
Yeah I started thinking I was a wizard making it super complicated but when I look back at it that was goofy ah lettering
That Hamer throw is a thing of beauty 😍
Dude it's so damn good i had to include it just to share that gem
Joel Fox it’s almost too good to be called a throwie
Thats true tho
I'm taking the old-school approach to learning: tags, throwies, pieces.
How is it going with that?
@@healablepuppy4667 really really well. personally, it works for me
@Christopher Barrales just keep grinding. style comes eventually, but once you get the fundamentals down, it comes a whole lot easier.
That's wassup, I started the opposite & word up my shit turned out to be horrible but steadily improving since..
Same
Not having a consistent style throughout the whole throw up
thats spot on, legit a cardinal sin of throw ups, having that flow is super important
Big issue I always see is kids trying to do all these complicated letters and styling when they just don't have the experience yet. I see that and always think it looks like crap. As you always say keep it simple!
Rite start with block or bubble keep it legible starting trying to do wild style and pieces isnt the route but of course everyone wants to be a beast rite away lol
Wow had to call me out like that didn't you
LOL at the subtitles when SHY 147 is talking
“body wash again United”
instead of
“Nobody wants to get united”
lmao damn they always changing what it says hahaha
#1 rule for me is CAN CONTROL. Your Throwie has to Flow out fluently with little thought or effort almost muscle memory like. I do the best throwies or Hallows I should say when I'm zoned out.
Can you reply me i need help
@NUKE...!!! Come to DC, we can Paint.
I did my first ever throwie with mtn hardcore cans on my closet door( i really recommend doing that first but dont do the same throwie out in streets) did it with my dad finsihed it in 20 mins was a bubble OBK red fill with black outline and blue effects around the outline it was the same exact one my dad did when he was first getting into it it was a exact replica of his we were both very happy about it it looked awsome KEEP IT SIMPLE!
One of the biggest mistakes I see that I used to do is trying to make your lines as clean as possible and sort of shaping your letters around that. But that’s kinda counterproductive, you should worry about practicing the structure first and worry about cleanliness later. The clean lines will come with practice
Is there anyway I can get an opinion of my throwie? I’d love some feedback ✍️
Throw ups are my favorite form of graffiti
Leetttssss goooooo!!!!! New video
Yo my maan upload more story time videos I’ve watched ur old ones so many times I know them by hart they are amazing man
lol shit if you know them that well you probably know them better then i remember them haha. I currently dont intend to share more stories as many of the ones i have left not even my family knows and i dont think they'ed feel too nice finding out through youtube first
Go out, have fun, make mistakes and life will naturally guide you where you need to be.
Throw ups went very easy for me, you just gotta practice and practice...
Very much a shit load of practice like a year lol
Throwups are literally the only thing I can do
@@tonkslance779 what about now almost a year later?
Watching this while pissing
Alabama Black kid is the best
3:16 any ideas to solve that problem on this throw-up?
Just extend the existing lines in a simple way that suggests the basic letter structure
Thanks as always for the rest content bro
Philly hands are king. .....
Nice video! I've been waiting for this one. I like the direction your going with your videos. I actually have been watching your videos for a while now but haven't had the time to deal with my UA-cam account. I would love to join your community.
Im really happy to have you as a part of it, i really appreciate all the support man
@@Theartistblock Thanks man, I appreciate what you do on this channel. I'll try to get in on some critiques when I finish a few more pieces. I think I pretty much have the fundamentals down, but I've just been struggling with developing my style, and how to apply fundamentals in an advanced way.
Pretty much on point
Would you consider talking about Jean Michel Basquiat as a topic of your video?
samo
Really big help , big thanks
I found this graffiti discord that had a throw section and half of them were sketching the lines 🤢🤮
Can I draw a baseline to use it as a reference point?
Yep. He shows it in some of the vids - you can indicate all your points in a light outline color first before you start.
I’m a beginner so this will help
I'm not an artist, I'm a vandal.
🌽
goofy
Toy
My best tip I can give is to just bite letters in the beginning, I know, no one wants to do it, all artist want to be original, but I wasted a lot of time trying to be overly original without actually succeeding at it. In fact when I started getting up I was confused as a new tag for another writer who I admired and I guess I subconsciously stole his style. I guess this writer had beef. Regardless don’t be afraid to copy it will get you to where you want to be faster. Just think of it like tattooing those post traditional alt traditional artist didn’t just create that line work, it was burned into their minds from non stop tracing. Eventually they went off on there own, with there own original style or twist.
Another one ☝🏼
Already commented but I 100% think that someone should spend time tagging and getting up rather than jumping straight into doing pieces and calling themselves a writer I spent 20ish years tagging before moving onto throws I know that's extreme but never felt like I needed more than tags 🤷🏻
What’s the “nobody wants to get united” quote from?
Lmao my old toy shit featured on there
Which ones?
@@snazdogdbfan251 gonze 1:56
@@MrKevin12p that must have been mortifying
@@tonkslance779 yea at the time, always room for improvement :)
The G looks like a pair of balls
Forcing the letters to all look the exact same
Can u do a video about the corona virus
AZO DOZF this is a graffiti channel 😐
AZO DOZF yo I follow u on ig
He could do a video about if the corona virus 🦠 affects graffiti artist
@@azodozf it doesn't bro
@@azodozf u trippin
I messaged you on insta but hopefully you get to critique my throw soon I updated it by changing the E from capital to lowercase
Skuf and Giant
had to those guys have some of my favorite throws
Throw ups are one of the hardest things for new graffiti artist Me:Someone who switched from complex doodles
**people sprayin up a throwie for the 1st time before sketching*
Big mistake lol
Can someone explain what is negative space?
So if you draw the letter O the O is the positive space ( the space being occupied) and the area in the middle as well as the area outside of the O are both negative space ( the space not occupied)
The Artist Block, so everything inside the outline, which is not part of the inside of the letter, vis-a-vis - the not coloured part?
What do you mean be negative space? You were talking about it and I didn’t understand
Negative space refers to any space not occupied by volume. In other words empty area. For example, if you look at a doughnut, the hole in the middle is negative space ( empty space) while the doughnut itself is positive space ( space that's occupied)
@@Theartistblock i see. Thank you
yall just needa black book, dont put ur shityy throw up if u dont have it down in the blackbook.
thx helpfull.
What do u write?
Too much random stuff or not enough
Dont make it to big or complex, its called a throw up for a reason, for it to be quick but readible
How can I make my own throwie style
Learn other peoples style and copy as many different letters as you can, eventually you’ll create your own, don’t be afraid to copy. A lot of artist from nyc are giving there tag be an established artist. Many are not as original as they seem. They are literally copying what another artist drew for them. A popular example would be cope2 getting his tag from cap, that is a common process. Not that all graffiti artist do this, but usually the people that were getting up, and established in the whole scene came from a lineage of writers.
In my case: a really bad combination of colors on throwies. Not working the contrasts....
My letters are always getting a little bigger.
How can I change that?
Remember in kindergarten when you were learning to write and you used that paper with the top, middle, and bottom line?
Use that same concept when doing your throw, so when you practice, make yourself a top line and bottom line for you that act as a reference for your cap height.
Stock to your baseline meantime and capheight and you'll be good
@@Theartistblock much more concise than what I said lol
@@Theartistblock ja I know I watched your videos. On paper it works fine, I Gabe the problem when I spray.
@@gusward728 thx
Nice video! But when you do Throw Ups can you bite? I mean yeah sure a name withe the exact same style copied is biting.. But often the letters like an little "a" are made pretty much the same - so they follow the same concept and often look similar to other people's throwies. Or am I wrong 😂😂🤔
You can allways bite but dont you want to be original just sketch your own letter than you dont have a full recycled piece less likely to get bombed over
@@gregoryt.miller6852 yeah that's what I am doing(the thing with own letters) ... For real I've never bited anyone's stuff. Maybe I formulated it the wrong way.
I mean you have a really simple throwie with letters like an little "a".
But I saw writers who have an "a" in their name and they really look similar.. And that's the point! Sure the really basics like a line you can't bite (That's not biting)
But what about throwies when is it biting??
@@brake2064 i mean at some point there is allways going to be some similar aspects its impossible not to correct? So going back to the main rule in anything just make sure your having fun doing it than thats all that matters so go kill it and have fun my friend:)
I asked grim for feedback and forgot to remove the arrows in my tag O_O
This is a comment for exposure
Lol did I at least get back to you?
@@Theartistblock You did - spent last night sketching using the feedback you gave me, thank you
hey i was wondering if you could help me on my tags in general, my tag name is netwrk(spelled right) and im having trouble with the flow of the e and the t and i also have trouble with the r and the k, thank you
Flow problems are a result of adding too much style, basic straight letters flow automatically withough you having to do anything so if you're having problems it's because you're adding too much style. In this case keep it simple and work on basic print fonts with 0 style. style will only make learning harder and make it take multiple times longer to get better at graffiti
@@Theartistblock thank you for the help I'll do my best to take what I've learned and apply it to my peices
Dont fill in properly, dusty fills or hollows ftw
Angus gray dusty fills or hollows aren't a mistake, heaps of experienced writers do it in order to make it quicker when doing a red hot spot
@@vitaliyrostov3204 y u frontn fo
Read the comment
Thats all up to preference isnt it. Taste differs
@@skaffoe_lobby better fo environment as there is no skill on filling
💪🏾✌🏾🙌🏾
over complicating a throwig. see it all the time
oh hell yes, this is a huge one
I didnt know theres so many mistakes you can make doing art....
there is no mistakes in graffiti just sayn its art and art has no rules
art for sure has rules and you can factually make mistakes in graffiti. If you write for example Yety and you spell it VETY then you made a mistake. Letter structure is a core fundamental and with that you get negative space management and weight instantly. thats not even including the other fundamentals or elements of art. If art had no rules then everyone would be Leonardo da Vinci but that cl the case. Anyone would be able to be a tattoo artist but once again, not the case, anyone could draw comic books but once again, not the case, why? because not everyone understands the rules to art.
@@Theartistblock So youre kind of saing that for example antistyle is a mistake? And the example with "then everyone could be a tatto artist" is not very good because in case of tattoos someone wants a motive for example a snake and in graffiti nobody really says you what to do. Im still folloing these "rules of graffiti" because i just stick to the whole style thing.
@@V0lny Anti-style is not a mistake, but an excuse 99% of the time. People that have a completely different and far out style, that still looks dope, have to know the rules of art far better than those with more mainstream style. In other words, what looks like shit is not anti-style, it's just what it looks like - shit.
So you can start throwing literal crap at a wall and I guarantee you, it will look better than what most "anti-styles" wannabe stuff. Probably not what you wanted to hear, also you are right about something. Nobody will tell you what to do. But whether your stuff will get recognition, respect or even just look nice to someone, with the slightest bit of feeling, will all have to do with knowing the rules and much later, a way in which they can be broken.
If you want to see a 'weird' style, search for Kans handstyle on UA-cam. The final product is completely out of the norm, but the man knows damn well what he is doing, while most people calling their 'style' anti-style do not.
There is a writer in my city telling everyone he has been doing graffiti since '84 and that he is doing anti-style. I don't know him personally, but even if the '84 thing is true, he and his "crew" are STILL a bunch of toys hiding under the pretense of anti-style. Nobody is telling him what to do.
The saddest part is, if his claims are true, soon 40 years will pass and no graffiti artist worth his salt respects him in any way and that fact will not change, until the day he dies or stops writing. But that is completely fine with me. The guy can't do a decent throw and demands some kind of recognition? Maybe from some noob that has been doing this for a month or 3 of his best buddies that wouldn't know the difference between The Raft of the Medusa and a turd if it hit them in the face.
Enough ranting. Go watch the video, I told you about and make sure to also check the comments. Funny how "hardcore bomber" toys go crazy, when someone is better than them.
To stay on-topic, I personally hate it when jackasses pull off a shitty toy throw, then make a cloud (why?) that crosses my throw/handstyle.
Also,
Why would anyone take advise from this toy???
?
How is he a toy?