Lake Road Cramahe Township House Fire December 15, 2023

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  • Опубліковано 15 гру 2023
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  • @user-wx7vc1kq1w
    @user-wx7vc1kq1w 6 місяців тому +26

    That was my childhood home. My dad built it when i was a child. And when I was a teen we built the deck on the back. It's sad to see it go. alot of memories there 😥😥. I feel bad for the family that lost there home. And I'm glad no one was hurt.

  • @ptodd5373
    @ptodd5373 6 місяців тому +10

    Thank you for the video. It brought back memories and made my mom cry. I took my first steps in the house.

  • @Jim-jh9bd
    @Jim-jh9bd 6 місяців тому +9

    great house I built it 35 years ago

  • @mattcrossfield3528
    @mattcrossfield3528 6 місяців тому +11

    My thoughts and prayers go out to those poor family. I hope the Good Lord watches over them and they are able to rebuild. Very sad. 😢

  • @elizabethgeorgia8286
    @elizabethgeorgia8286 6 місяців тому +8

    Prayers for the family

  • @ericweiler6571
    @ericweiler6571 4 місяці тому +2

    This is exactly why you keep a collapse perimeter on burning houses with brick veneer. What a lot of people don't understand is, brick is ornamental (unless it's structural brick-but this is not the case here) and it poses more potential harm than good for firefighters. Brick is attached to the structure by a back up wall which is almost always wood studs on residential buildings. Once the wooden studs burn, they fail structurally and the building collapses. Great job by this fire dept

  • @kimberlyboysza4954
    @kimberlyboysza4954 6 місяців тому +8

    There is nothing worse than a fire. My prayers are with this family.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 4 місяці тому

      Floods are worse than fires. I worked Hurricane Katrina for 3 months.

  • @DukeCronenwerth
    @DukeCronenwerth 6 місяців тому +5

    The Fire should definitely have been left burning. The House was already irreparably lost

    • @davidcarroll829
      @davidcarroll829 2 місяці тому

      Garage was last I saw to go and no hoses on it at all, they did let it burn !

  • @edloeffler9769
    @edloeffler9769 6 місяців тому +11

    They did a hell of a lot of firefighting with just two people. Unfortunately, there was nothing to save when they arrived. This appears to be a rural fire district where manpower is EXTREMELY light.

    • @johncahill7347
      @johncahill7347 6 місяців тому +4

      I'd agree it's probably a rural department with need of mutual aid. Fire got away from them and appears they just let it burn itself most of the way.
      Very sad for the families total loss

    • @grandinosour
      @grandinosour 6 місяців тому +2

      It also appears they had a lack of water.

    • @repairmanjoe8081
      @repairmanjoe8081 6 місяців тому +1

      Um, the lake??😮

    • @markmullin4246
      @markmullin4246 6 місяців тому +1

      Also appears firefighters have lack luster attitudes.
      Our volunteer little fire department actually hustles!
      These ppl shouldn't be called firefighters 😢

    • @greyman686
      @greyman686 4 місяці тому +2

      @@markmullin4246 That house was coming down one way or another whether it collapsed or was taken down by excavator.

  • @lawlessjff
    @lawlessjff 6 місяців тому +6

    Not only a rural fire, but no tanker support? Then grass fires to boot. Bad set of circumstances all the way around

    • @greyman686
      @greyman686 4 місяці тому

      They have plenty of tankers.

  • @Marrio49
    @Marrio49 6 місяців тому +4

    Holy moly, that is some fire

  • @Bigbluehawk2
    @Bigbluehawk2 6 місяців тому +3

    Wonder if they heard of 2 1/2” lines and deck guns? Great foundation save.

    • @jonboogy
      @jonboogy 6 місяців тому

      Those are only good if you have a good water supply.

  • @Lona1964able
    @Lona1964able 6 місяців тому +2

    So sad, happy that everyone was safe

  • @johnwashburn7423
    @johnwashburn7423 6 місяців тому +3

    That had to have gotten quite a head start

  • @larrytaylor8094
    @larrytaylor8094 6 місяців тому

    Praying for family.

  • @davidcarroll829
    @davidcarroll829 2 місяці тому

    Wow house was really crispy to go up that fast !😮

  • @marksellinger3736
    @marksellinger3736 6 місяців тому +8

    How does someone get insurance for a home when there is no source of water, etc.

    • @uncledadcan
      @uncledadcan 6 місяців тому +4

      There is a lake about a half km from the house. Lots of water there.

    • @kbittorf335
      @kbittorf335 6 місяців тому +1

      Back in the day here, rural communities would form their own insurance companies because insurance was otherwise unavailable.

  • @erickaegi629
    @erickaegi629 6 місяців тому +4

    Glad to see everyone is safe. Sad shame the firefighters did a hell of a job with what they had. Any cause?

  • @alanchandler254
    @alanchandler254 6 місяців тому +4

    Watching this they seemed to have the fire under control at the start, then seemed to just stop and watch it burn. Seems time that building regulations were tightened to make the use of less flammable materials mandatory. The men did the best they could in the circumstances , and no one was hurt.

    • @lisareed6854
      @lisareed6854 6 місяців тому

      Sadly it's was too late to save

    • @greyman686
      @greyman686 4 місяці тому

      They had it under control? Not sure what you're watching but there's fire blowing out pretty well every door and window of the front side and it's in the attic. That fire had one ending, coming down whether it collapses or the excavator does it.

    • @jamesgibbons6292
      @jamesgibbons6292 2 місяці тому

      We seemed to have missed a piece of the fight. It went grom big fire to hardly any fire.

  • @rj-yy2gm
    @rj-yy2gm 4 місяці тому +1

    This is the direct result of people nowadays not wanting to be firefighters whether it be career or volunteer. VFD's are already struggling to retain people as the one's still around are past their prime. Even career departments are struggling to recruit. It's also the result of people not wanting to shell out more in tax dollars to fund adequate fire service and water infrastructure.

  • @buzzmeachum1855
    @buzzmeachum1855 6 місяців тому +12

    The same type of beautifull, isolated homes are scattered throughout this area of Central Pennsylvania. In general we have excellent volunteer companies with an efficient box alarm system for mutual aid. But as a 20 year retired firefighter I’ve never been able to understand what homeowners who build 20 minutes away from emergency services expect in the way of help for this type of disaster. Same for ambulance service. I usually thought of them as having a kiss your ass goodbye address….😢

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 місяців тому +3

      Imagine what his property (fire) insurance costs must be.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 місяців тому +2

      @@mellowoutman4516 We'll send a therapist your way...hold on.

    • @edhauenstein1835
      @edhauenstein1835 6 місяців тому +2

      Exactly right.

    • @williamkauffman8898
      @williamkauffman8898 6 місяців тому +2

      I used to live in a very large city of several million and now live in a town of less than 1000. I have no interest in moving back to a large populated area where the services are at your fingertips. I now live a real America instead of the Zoo. Enjoy the Zoo!

  • @suzylarry1
    @suzylarry1 6 місяців тому

    That's a sad event to see . I hope all were out when this started and find a new place for the holidays

  • @rkj4107
    @rkj4107 6 місяців тому +2

    Bummer. Rough day at the firehouse.

  • @IfmynameisPaul
    @IfmynameisPaul 6 місяців тому +1

    Get these guys some smoothbores

  • @claudiaf398
    @claudiaf398 6 місяців тому +1

    You can tell it's a newer house. There as so much smoke and it went up so fast. I'm sorry for the family. Awful.

  • @jjaagg5050
    @jjaagg5050 6 місяців тому +12

    This looks like a training fire.

    • @tsaffran
      @tsaffran 6 місяців тому +1

      i was thinking the same

    • @K_3_R_R
      @K_3_R_R 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@tsaffranit's not a training fire a family of 5 was left homeless by the fire...GOOGLE it.

    • @tsaffran
      @tsaffran 6 місяців тому +1

      @@K_3_R_R wasn't being smart the way you can see inside the bldg thru the stair walls looked like it was being rehabbed I am sorry for their loss

    • @KylesRV
      @KylesRV 6 місяців тому

      Read the description and click the news link. It was not training.

    • @tsaffran
      @tsaffran 6 місяців тому

      @@KylesRV thank you I will sleep good tonight

  • @user-nr1pg5od5x
    @user-nr1pg5od5x 5 місяців тому

    I don't understand what's wrong with that fire department or any of it when it couldn't save that house a long time ago.
    It put bottle on trucks for reason

  • @marlomontanaro3233
    @marlomontanaro3233 6 місяців тому +10

    I dunno... I see a complete lack of firefighting. Did they have water supply issues? Cause even if the structure can't be saved, I thought the job was still to put out the fire. And it looks like here, the plan was to let it burn itself out.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 місяців тому +5

      You sure dug deep to come up with your ridiculous criticism.

  • @dmullen68
    @dmullen68 6 місяців тому +4

    Im shaking my head why is there a fire company if you refuse to put water on it 😮😢😢

    • @jamesgibbons6292
      @jamesgibbons6292 2 місяці тому

      They literally watched it burn down. I know it was already loss but they had charged lines just laying on the ground around them.

  • @helenschneider9926
    @helenschneider9926 6 місяців тому +3

    Keep an eye on that propane tank. Kaboom!

    • @cidbozek69
      @cidbozek69 6 місяців тому

      Should have been a line on that before the house. The house was already gone when they arrived.

  • @user-hu8li5ko9c
    @user-hu8li5ko9c 3 місяці тому

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  • @Matt-mo8sl
    @Matt-mo8sl 6 місяців тому +1

    Sucks losing a home to fire. Been there done that.

    • @lisareed6854
      @lisareed6854 6 місяців тому

      Mee too lost everything 😢

  • @jimwinsor8938
    @jimwinsor8938 5 місяців тому

    Looks like below a lot people connected at one time or another to this house!!!

  • @RM-od6hg
    @RM-od6hg 6 місяців тому +1

    What we doing??? Looks like that propane tank migh be getting a little warm if there is propane in it, I wa sure at some point the start of the video they would force open the gargae door and at least maybe save the gargae area

  • @jjaagg5050
    @jjaagg5050 6 місяців тому +1

    Guess it wasn't. So sorry for the family.

  • @smokechecktim7430
    @smokechecktim7430 6 місяців тому +1

    Isolated location with no water source. Not much you can do

  • @robinblitz5213
    @robinblitz5213 6 місяців тому

    Nobody hurt houses can be replaced people can't sad though

  • @mikep4546
    @mikep4546 6 місяців тому +2

    Was this a controlled burn
    Because if it wasn’t…..

    • @greyman686
      @greyman686 4 місяці тому +1

      If they rolled up and it was blowing out every window, what difference does it make? It's getting torn down regardless.

  • @ffjsb
    @ffjsb 5 місяців тому

    First line they should've pulled should've been a 2 1/2".

    • @petefisher2426
      @petefisher2426  5 місяців тому

      Would it matter?

    • @ffjsb
      @ffjsb 5 місяців тому

      @@petefisher2426 Yes. Because Gallons Per Minute (GPM's) is what puts out fires. You have to apply enough water to overcome the BTU's being produced by the fire, otherwise it just evaporates the water.

  • @helenevilleneuve4567
    @helenevilleneuve4567 6 місяців тому

    Triste!

  • @dongelinas5990
    @dongelinas5990 6 місяців тому +3

    How does something like this go up so fast

    • @lisareed6854
      @lisareed6854 6 місяців тому +2

      It's take 3 miss to a room to reach flashover and it don't take long to destroy the home

    • @lisareed6854
      @lisareed6854 6 місяців тому

      ​@@janetclark3557it take 3 min to reach flashover in one room so within 10 mins the home is a loss

    • @jimwinsor8938
      @jimwinsor8938 5 місяців тому

      My thoughts exactly no one seems concerned to safe the structure.

  • @tamifox
    @tamifox 6 місяців тому

    Was the house empty? Where are the owners? Poor people.

  • @joemoore8054
    @joemoore8054 6 місяців тому +1

    Nice job guys...LOL

  • @andygilbertson8925
    @andygilbertson8925 6 місяців тому +2

    Looks like my Fire Department!
    The Foundation Savers, New trucks and no balls!

  • @jerryevans7040
    @jerryevans7040 6 місяців тому

    why isn't any water on the rear of the structure.

  • @mjvanderweg9969
    @mjvanderweg9969 6 місяців тому

    Sad

  • @raycosman824
    @raycosman824 6 місяців тому

    Bet fire insurance is high there.

  • @lisareed6854
    @lisareed6854 6 місяців тому

    I cant believe they let it burn to the ground when first shown the house hadnt collapsed maybe they should fight it from when they arrived and kept putting it out

    • @greyman686
      @greyman686 4 місяці тому

      Here's what would have happened. They would have put it out, then an excavator would come tear it down. So whether it collapses during the fire or after, it's isn't making one lick of difference.

  • @Backnine907
    @Backnine907 6 місяців тому +3

    My bet, fire was set and accelerate was used.

    • @IfmynameisPaul
      @IfmynameisPaul 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, it was completely gutted on the inside and the roof was still intact. Very odd.

  • @kenallred2215
    @kenallred2215 6 місяців тому +1

    Who called the foundation savers? Y’all shoulda called the fire dept they might have saved something. 4 lines stretched and they just decided that water no longer fights a fire.

    • @greyman686
      @greyman686 4 місяці тому

      What difference would it make? What would they salvage out of it? Nothing. The fire was blowing out of pretty much every window, its getting torn down anyway.

  • @randolphguevara438
    @randolphguevara438 6 місяців тому

    Must be a very rural area. I've never seen a fire video where there were comments from people that actually built the house. Not a nice thing to watch. Im sorry.

  • @Goober10584
    @Goober10584 5 місяців тому

    This is what happens when you have volunteer departments. You get what you pay for....which is nothing!

    • @davidbanks8917
      @davidbanks8917 5 місяців тому +4

      Wrong. This is what happens when citizens magically want their rural homes protected from fire but don't want to pay the taxes for a career department, and then don't want to bother joining the volunteer fire department (even though they are paying municipal fire levy), so the VFD ends up trying to do the best they can. A fire call on a weekday, when many VFFs have commuted to work miles away, can mean very little manpower for a call. The chief officer and the two FFs did the best they could.

    • @Goober10584
      @Goober10584 5 місяців тому

      that's what my comment said? That town/city doesn't want to pay for career firefighters so this is the result. @@davidbanks8917

  • @bigdoorcontrolguy2232
    @bigdoorcontrolguy2232 6 місяців тому +9

    nice job foundation savers!

    • @jackburgess9482
      @jackburgess9482 6 місяців тому

      I don't see you out there volunteering, if you think it's so easy you should give it a try! Most likely these guy's are doing it for free, taking time away from their families, paying for their own gas to get to the station, missing holidays and birthdays and probably working a full time job too, all to help their neighbors and a$$holes like you!

  • @thomaswilliamson5951
    @thomaswilliamson5951 6 місяців тому

    Where's the tower truck ?, don't they have one that would have helped out alot wouldn't it just saying .

    • @petefisher2426
      @petefisher2426  6 місяців тому +2

      Not many rural have tower trucks and if it’s through the roof the house is done anyway. And to have a tower truck would require a lot of water and there were no hydrants here

  • @Jim-jh9bd
    @Jim-jh9bd 6 місяців тому +2

    remember buying that land 37 years ago great home I built and lots of happy times . Sure wish they had left the pool in

  • @terrydougherty7078
    @terrydougherty7078 6 місяців тому +1

    Save the basement

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 місяців тому

      🪠🪠

  • @dwightr8590
    @dwightr8590 6 місяців тому +2

    With all those hoses deployed, apparently water supply wasn’t an issue, so why wasn’t a Deck Gun utilized…❓

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 місяців тому +3

      You post this on every single video. Apparently this is all you know.

    • @rogerdehaven5603
      @rogerdehaven5603 6 місяців тому +3

      Deckgun would waste the little water they have in a few minutes

  • @transilvanischervampir666
    @transilvanischervampir666 6 місяців тому

    🧐🫣

  • @mtvjackass74
    @mtvjackass74 6 місяців тому

    I guess no hydrants??

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 місяців тому

      Does it look that way to you? Good guess.

    • @mtvjackass74
      @mtvjackass74 6 місяців тому

      @@RLTtizME it was sarcasm…….

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 місяців тому

      @@mtvjackass74 Highly obscure in light of the other commentary here.

  • @kennethschroeder2789
    @kennethschroeder2789 5 місяців тому

    This effort made no difference. Have yet to see a fire where hosing it had any measurable effect. Same outcome regardless.

  • @rhacker3058
    @rhacker3058 6 місяців тому +6

    Nice Job Guy's, You Were Able To Save The Basement!!!! Oh, You Made A Built In Swimming Pool!!!! Later MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

    • @marksellinger3736
      @marksellinger3736 6 місяців тому

      Its ok. They are Canadian.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 місяців тому +1

      We have never heard that before. You are very creative.

    • @greyman686
      @greyman686 4 місяці тому

      Given what the conditions are at the start, the basement was all that was going to be left anyway. That place was coming down either by collapse or excavator.

    • @greyman686
      @greyman686 4 місяці тому

      @@marksellinger3736 Yea, American's never fuck up fire scenes....

    • @marksellinger3736
      @marksellinger3736 4 місяці тому

      @@greyman686 please see your doctor as your funny bone isn't working. It'll be 3 years because of socialized medicine, but keeping good thoughts for you

  • @robertgroover3316
    @robertgroover3316 6 місяців тому +10

    I'm confused. Are fire fighters supposed to fight fires or just stand around and watch it burn?

    • @jasonripley2379
      @jasonripley2379 6 місяців тому +11

      Looks like defensive fire conditions on arrival. The best firefighters in the world couldn’t have made a difference on that one. Way too far gone on arrival.

    • @rogerdehaven5603
      @rogerdehaven5603 6 місяців тому +4

      Your just uneducated on the matter.

    • @robertgroover3316
      @robertgroover3316 6 місяців тому +3

      @rogerdehaven5603 all I see are people standing around.

    • @rogerdehaven5603
      @rogerdehaven5603 6 місяців тому +2

      @@robertgroover3316 NO manpower, very little water and there wasn't anything to safe. Wasn't no need in the handful of volunteers there busting there ass to save nothing. Those are the reasons.

    • @bryandixon2493
      @bryandixon2493 6 місяців тому +1

      Something like that all you can do defense defense defense defense. There's nothing there to save

  • @robertnelson432
    @robertnelson432 6 місяців тому

    Why bother.

  • @arthurlovell7575
    @arthurlovell7575 6 місяців тому

    propane tank would have went boom

  • @williamhutchinson6879
    @williamhutchinson6879 6 місяців тому

    Straight stream? Really?

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 6 місяців тому +2

      Still having issues with your prostate Billie?

    • @greyman686
      @greyman686 4 місяці тому

      Does the stream really matter when it's blowing out pretty well every opening? Not one bit.

  • @trainmaster0217
    @trainmaster0217 5 місяців тому

    Too much zooming in and out.

  • @blue4uable
    @blue4uable 6 місяців тому +1

    You can see how intense the fire is,looks like arson 😢

  • @infantryman116
    @infantryman116 5 місяців тому +1

    Garbage firefighting. Just gonna stand there and not do nothing? A joke

  • @johnwashburn7423
    @johnwashburn7423 6 місяців тому

    I would rather live in a rural area than a city with an over-paid fire department. Have adequate insurance and an abundance or early warning and common sense about any heat generating appliances.
    You will lose your house and memorabilia but you will live and re-build. That risk is worth it to me.

    • @susanmcguire3442
      @susanmcguire3442 6 місяців тому +1

      As you’re running out of your house, firefighters are going in. Overpaid?! I don’t think so.

    • @johnwashburn7423
      @johnwashburn7423 6 місяців тому

      @@susanmcguire3442 oh I do. It is their PAID job to do that and most would not if not PAID. Feel free to live in a “high tax city” with your over-paid heroes. I am glad I don’t. See? We both get to live our choices. How cool is that!

  • @nickbeckham14
    @nickbeckham14 6 місяців тому +2

    That's a sorry fore department they let that whole big ass house burn straight to the ground while they all just sat back and watched it, shit might as well of pulled up some chairs and started telling fire stories

  • @jeremysmith4334
    @jeremysmith4334 6 місяців тому +4

    Such a sad thing to have happen. But what really bothers me is while a family is losing everything right before the holidays, Pete is right there riding some high with his camera. You are a selfish individual who needs to stop doing shit like this. Just a siren chaser. How would you feel if this was your house and someone was taking pictures to turn a profit. Truly pathetic.

    • @saywhat3425
      @saywhat3425 6 місяців тому +9

      Omg. Yawn dude. It's called news. I'm sure the family will appreciate the coverage to get the word out and donations in.

    • @petefisher2426
      @petefisher2426  6 місяців тому +9

      Sure is wild how news works eh Jeremy. You sure must be busy emailing every news outlet that covers fires. Which - is every news outlet.

    • @jeremysmith4334
      @jeremysmith4334 6 місяців тому

      @@petefisher2426 it's okay Pete. I know you don't have an ethical or compassionate bone in your body. Anything for the headline.

    • @jeremysmith4334
      @jeremysmith4334 6 місяців тому +1

      @@saywhat3425 if that's the case then where is Pete's interview with the home owners thanking him for the coverage and asking and thanking in advance the public for the generous donations. What if maybe the family wants privacy? Is news more important than having a little bit of compassion?

    • @petefisher2426
      @petefisher2426  6 місяців тому +6

      @@jeremysmith4334 it’s ok Jeremy I know it must be tough for you not knowing how news is covered. It’s all good. You keep on living in that fantasy world. If you need to understand media always happy to help out. By all means please call 9053732895. And if you need the email of other media outlets to email them. I can try and help out that way as well.

  • @swamprat69er
    @swamprat69er 2 місяці тому +1

    Of all the negative comments from the armchair firefighters the only question is WHAT CAUSED IT to begin with?
    As for FF standing around, there is not too much you can do when the fire is already through the roof. The house is toast (no pun intended).
    Of the armchair firefighters, if you can do any better, then join a volunteer fire department and get to work!

  • @arthurlovell7575
    @arthurlovell7575 6 місяців тому

    thats a traing video @jennysmith

    • @K_3_R_R
      @K_3_R_R 6 місяців тому

      No..GOOGLE it. A family of 5 was left homeless by this fire, plus if you'd watched the entire video, which you failed to do, otherwise you wouldn't have posted this ridiculous comment you'd see it was a real fire..there was a post-fire presser.

    • @KylesRV
      @KylesRV 6 місяців тому

      No is not training. Read the description and click the news link. A family lost their home.

    • @eriksand9262
      @eriksand9262 6 місяців тому +3

      Why would they set up kids bike in the front of the house if it’s a training burn?

    • @rogerdehaven5603
      @rogerdehaven5603 6 місяців тому

      Try again FOOL.

    • @K_3_R_R
      @K_3_R_R 6 місяців тому

      @@eriksand9262 exactly

  • @Maguire-om9zd
    @Maguire-om9zd 6 місяців тому +1

    You can get smoke and heat detectors that are monitored through your telephone line or cell which will send out an alarm to multiple contacts like the owner and neighbour and authorities. It's very strange that some people seem to be callously blaming the victim for living in the beautiful countryside.