Honestly I think a lot already came out to the internet you can thank the internet for exposing the flaws and the in confidence of trump security team fact if the internet was around during Lincoln lifetime I think we would have known a lot more
@@lostcauselancer333 I have ad blocking on and fully functional, and I still get those. There is a Chrome extension you can download that blocks them, but I don't generally care enough to go out of my way to block them.
@@lostcauselancer333 no, I'm using the iOS app right now. I guess some of these only show up for people in certain regions, I'm in Germany :) Funny, I never noticed that before.
Shoutout to Richard Lawrence, the first man to try to kill a sitting president. He attempted to shoot Andrew Jackson with two different pistols, but both misfired. Jackson then began to attack Lawrence with his cane, before Davy Crockett (yes, that one) managed to neutralize Lawrence
There was an unnamed sailor who tried to assassinate Andrew Jackson with a club before that one, after initially knocking Jackson down Jackson’s friends chased him off
Also fun fact about the Latino busboy that was comforting Kennedy: he was actually holding a rosary that he kept on him and was comforting Kennedy is his last moments. Kennedy was a Catholic, which was odd for US politics in those times
Not the most iconic assassination in American history, but the assassination of James Garfield has one of the wackiest assassins. Charles Giteau was quite a character.
Was he though? I think most of the assassins were just clearly mentally ill, and I am a little leery of treating them in an overly credulous way, as like, whimsical wacky dudes.
@@JJMcCulloughI think Guiteau is different just because he was by many years the oldest of the presidential assassins, aged 40, so he had a much more thorough history of poor life decisions leading up to killing Garfield that were fairly well documented during the process of his trial. James Earl Ray was also 40 but he had a more standard criminal backstory.
@@GreenMudkipz I'm not sure JJ's physically capable of NOT looking dope. He somehow manages to wear every hair/facial hair style with the perfect balance of confidence and charm to conjure a constant aura of cool.
You can actually go see the bullet that killed Lincoln (as well as a tiny fragment of his skull) in person to this day. It’s at the National Museum for Health and Medicine in Maryland. It’s a very small, free museum, and usually pretty empty. There’s a lot of odd, often dubiously ethical things on display there. Definitely one of the weirder museums in the DC area.
I had heard of that a bit before, there's also the Mütter museum in Philadelphia which is similar and which I know has also grappled with the ethics of displaying human remains recently.
Shame it's in Maryland. Used to live there for five years - including in the nominally more "affluent" areas (at least on paper) - and would not recommend that state whatsoever.
Indeed….he took Chapman for one of the crowd of odd people still holding onto whatever the 1960’s was for them…John indulged them with a very honest kindness, as the 1980 John Lennon was much more calm than even the John Lennon of 5 years before then, and he knew that everything he had was owed to weirdos like them….and I’m sure someone at some point told him that it would get him killed someday, but Give Peace a Chance. What sticks with me is how emblematic the whole event is of just….all the worst aspects of post World War II America. The spectacle of it, with the media wanting their pictures, the continued cruelty thrown at Yoko who now wanted to find a way to blame her for this tragedy…you have a perfect display of the cracks in the mental health system, already doing poorly after decades of bleeding the system of support and funding so they could quietly end the system entirely….leading to the issues of deranged and sad people who terrorize us on a weekly basis today. You have the Catcher in the Rye, a moral story for the same youth Lennon was speaking to…and then you have Chapman, a truly lost soul in all this noise. It’s tragic all around, and it is as American as it gets. And we learned nothing. The famous actors, musicians and politicians got better security. The rich build gated communities. And so it is just us and them; normal people like us who were not lucky enough to have wealth, and the madmen who want infamy and meaning in a world that has robbed us all of everything.
Surprised he didnt use that one. I’m Gen Z and for my generation that’s probably the most famous Lennon photo, and as iconic as part of the Beatles legacy as abbey road.
I would have added Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls in the list, too, or as honorable mentions, just because of how culturally influential the pair were, even outside hip-hop. The fact that they were rivals in life, but were both assasinated in quick succession, adds to the dramatism of their deaths.
I think it's worth stating that the United States of America is actually really good at handling the aftermath of assassinations. The perp is caught and arrested, the victim is swiftly replaced if they were an officeholder, business continues as usual, nobody starts World War 1. Political violence is terrible, but in america assassinations are rarely ever allowed to *escalate* into retaliatory violence, and in time they become tragedies rather than political pivot points. That is genuinely impressive for any nation to achieve.
It's a bit simplistic to say that this one assassination was the real reason behind WW1. Countries were aching for a war and were looking for a casus belli.
You're not wrong, but it is worth noting that we've never had a president assassinated by an assassin who was funded by a foreign government. This is what made the Franz Ferdinand assassination so politically charged. If he had been shot by a random Austrian trying to impress Greta Garbo I think it would have been a different story.
tbh we've only had one or two presidential assassinations that we know for sure were politically charged. all of the other ones were just carried out by lunatics that wanted to appear on the news.
I'd argue the two worst ones were Lincoln's worsening reconstruction era violence and McKinley leading to significant anti-left crackdowns over the following 20 years
@@TheSupremeTsar Or (1) the cues we use to understand age are tied to the associated cohorts we observe later, and (2) Oswald had just taken a few hits to the face at the time of the mugshot.
Most people in the Western world prior to the 1970s and 1980s looked significantly older due to the ubiquitous nature of smoking and drinking in public. Seriously, smoking in general was so widespread that many U.S. high schools had designated smoking areas and break times for students until the 1980s. Not just for faculty, but students!
12:16 Fun Fact: The Soviet Union was terrified after the news of JFK’s death and Lee’s affiliation with Communism because they thought the US would blame the Soviets. The Soviets also made sure to verify that Lee wasn’t affiliated with the KGB because Lee had spent time in the USSR
The USSR also directly popularized the first conspiracy theories about the JFK assassination, using KGB-funded front companies to publish books by obscure authors claiming that the limo driver was the one who killed Kennedy. So yeah, now 60 years later most Americans believe (wrongly) JFK was killed in some kind of conspiracy all because the Soviets wanted to shift blame away from themselves for something they didn't even do.
Yeah, History Matters did a video on this topic. The Soviets were initially worried that one of their agents in the US had gone rogue and were relieved when an American was arrested for the assassination. But then when it became clear that he was a communist who had lived in the Soviet Union, the Soviet government had another round of panic until they determined that he had never been recruited by the KGB or other entity of the Soviet state.
Some I would add for a world context in no particular order would be 1. Mahatma Ghandi 2. John Paul ii (attempt) 3. George wallace 4.Julius Caesar 5. Huey Long 6. Shinzo Abe 7 Ngo Dihn Diem 8. Archduke Franz Ferdinand 9.Margaret Thacher (attempt) 10. Tsar Alexander III
While you might not realize how important the McKinley assassination was, it made Theodore Roosevelt's career. Thomas Platt wanted Roosevelt out of the way in New York and engineered his nomination as vice president. When McKinley was shot everything changed for him.
I think JJ was restricting his scope to American assassinations. That said, he's also interested in Japanese culture, so perhaps he'll do an Abe video one day.
I'd argue the Shinzo Abe assassination has definitely made its way into American culture, so would probably fit within the scope of "Assassinations most people expect you to know about" although I doubt most Americans know much about it other than that it happened and about the homemade weapon that was used.
There's a really good video about his assassination and the related background involving the shooters family and the unification church on the UA-cam channel spectacles.
“How did you like the play Mrs Lincoln” has also become a joke you deploy when there is some obvious factor that you are ignoring to discuss something that doesn’t matter
I’d also say that the photo of Lennon signing an autograph for Chapman earlier that day is a good candidate for a photo more closely related to the assassination
It's weird that this video is flagged with a "Topical context in information panel" for the Attempt on Reagan. Like I didn't know there was any dispute over the subject (and Topical Context Info panels are usually posted on videos about contentious issues or those prone to "misinformation").
Whites kids u know did a comedy skit years ago where they joke and maybe believed that vice president George H. W. Bush wanted to kill him to become president and how he was friends with the Hinkleys.
This is made stranger by JJ calling the rally shooting an attempted assassination. As we do not know the motive, attempted assassination is the likeliest even safest assumption to make. But nonetheless still an assumption. Some crazy just wanted to shoot up a rally is every bit as evidenced, yet immediately dismissed summary.
The Soviets notoriously overreacted (thinking it was a coup attempt by Haig or Bush), and based on _Freaks and Geeks_ I guess there were some short-lived conspiracy theories based on the Soviet overreaction?
UA-cam flagged the Reagan attempt specifically because John Hinckley Jr. is here on UA-cam making outsider folk music now (some of it's lowkey kinda good too; _Never Ending Quest_ is a jam)
8:59 How was Dwight D. Eisenhower not a WWII veteran? He was the ultimate WWII veteran! Dwight D. Eisenhower was the most WWII person to have ever lived! He was the supreme allied commander in the European theater and as a civilian who had left the military by the time he was president was technically a veteran.
@@Conor1_23 No, officers are still considered veterans even if they don't see combat. Look up the definition of veteran and it'll back me up. And to be clear, Dwight D. Eisenhower served in WWII. He was a very busy man who had work all the time and that work was service. What he did was service to America, to democracy, and against the Nazis. A man whose service in WWII cannot be overstated and deserves reverence. He was a soldier in WWII, not just in charge.
@@jacksonhamilton6302 all though I personally don't think being in charge of an army makes you a veteran of that war, the definition does say "A former member of an armed forces" so you're right there
I feel like the assassination of Franz Ferdinand that started WWI is hugely impactful on American history even if not technically part of American history per se.
"There must of been a point where he saw the Archduke drive by, looking at his gun in one hand and his sandwich in the other... and chose violence" -Wendigoon 20xx
Okay but again, how well is Harvey Milk remembered in the modern American imagination? Would the average American know him? I wouldn’t even be sure the average Gay American would know him, unless they interact with Gay Culture and History a lot. I am not saying by the way his assassination meant nothing or anything like that, simply that it isn’t really that remembered or immortalized in the American imagination today.
oh yeah, the guy who groomed young homeless dudes, he accomplished a lot for his cause during his short time in politics, thankfully he stopped (unwillingly but still)
@@soupycask You seem to think the most important fact about an assassination is its ratings. Public memory does not correlate to how impactful an assassination was. How different would the world be if FDR hadn't been around to manoeuvre a reluctant U.S.into aiding Britain during the Blitz, and later into WWII? Maybe you don't know the high percentage of Americans who either wanted nothing to do with another European war so soon after the previous one, or who even outright supported the Nazis? Getting the U.S. to oppose fascism, even allying with the Soviet Union to do it? That was a heavy lift that not all politicians could manage. Another politician might even have become president on a platform of support for the Nazis. This oonly seems farfetched because FDR lived. Likewise, Milk, who was an astonishingly able and intuitive politician, had he lived, might well have gone on to be a Senator. Would he have permitted the Reagan Administration to ignore AIDS as they did? Would Jesse Helms' obstruction been as effective if there had been someone, anyone at all, but especially Milk with his penchant for making gay issues relatable to straights, defending the Lesbian and Gay communities at the federal level? The list in this video includes the murder (hardly an "assassination") of a popular singer/songwriter, and an event where a bystander was killed and a former President had his ear scratched by flying debris. Both events got great coverage. Neither had any impact on the course of history. That you choose instead to dismiss the assassination of Milk and the attempt on Roosevelt because, ho hum, no one talks about them, suggests that you confuse popularity with importance.
One could argue that the assassination of James Garfield was significant in that, since his assassin was a failed government office seeker and Garfield was an advocate of civil service reform, his popularity at the time and his successor’s desire to fulfill his legacy led to the elimination of the “spoils system” and introduction of modern civil service exams
The counter-argument is that many people don't know about this (or are like me and forgot that until just now), so it isn't as *culturally* relevant as the assassinations JJ covered.
I was surpise to learn that Booth, Oswald and bunch of other killers mentioned here were in their mid-20s. That really shakes my perspective, always thought their were much older than that
For the Lennon assassination, there was a photo of Lennon meeting Chapman a few hours before the shooting. Chapman was waiting outside Lennon's apartment with a copy of Lennon's latest album, and accompanied by a fellow fan with a camera. When Ono and Lennon came down, Chapman offered the album, to which Lennon signed, and the moment was captured on camera.
I'd argue the photo of Malcom's chair overturned with bullet holes in the background is the most inconic photo of the assasination. However I could understand the argument its not a photo "of" the assassination, but the aftermath.
I can't stop thinking about how an actual assassin who almost murdered the president has a youtube channel now. it sounds like the premise to a bad SNL skit
Another fun one: David Toska, the most notorious bank robber in Norwegian history, was invited as a guest commentator in the Norwegian coverage of the 2022 Tata Steel Chess tournament (he was released on probation in 2018). Naturally the media ran headlines like "Bank Robber Becomes Chess Expert".
It could be because the perpetrator of Lennon's assassination was apprehended and all the details surrounding it had been widely publicised. Still, you raise an interesting point.
I think because by that point, Lennon was seen as part-musician, part-political activist. Maybe they considered the east coast vs west coast stuff a gang-related conflict with many deaths involved. Or maybe it's the simplest answer, and it's just racial bias.
4:45 Despite the fact that there was no photo of the actual assassination, I'd argue the most famous photograph associated with it is probably the series of photos taken by Alexander Gardner of the executions of Booth's co-conspirators. Very morbid, but at the same time very historically important and in a way fascinating.
When it comes to Oswald, you also forget to mention he was a Marine, he was more than just a communist but that he defected for a period to the USSR before coming back to the US, and that he married his wife in the USSR. Also Ion Pacepa, head for Foreign Intelligence for the DIE (Romania's KGB, the guy who was the equivalent to the CIA director) from 1971-1978, until the day he died said he was 100% sure the USSR was behind it and thought Oswald's wife was a Soviet agent (Oswald's wife was the niece of a Colonel in Ministry of Internal Affairs, who married him just after 6 weeks of dating, and met him only a few weeks after his defection allegedly at a dance completely randomly). He claimed in the 2000s, that communist Romania's report at the time, thought the GRU was behind it and that Oswald was GRU trained during his time in the USSR. However there is no proof, other than communist Romania thought so from their analysis. He did write a whole book based on this called "Programmed to Kill", but once again, no solid evidence.
The ultimate assassin of Theodore Roosevelt was in fact Death himself, who took Teddy in his sleep. The reason being, had Teddy been awake to meet Death, it would have been an extremely long and tough fight.
Okay but is that assassination attempt that well remembered in the modern conscious? I wouldn’t say so, it’s not even taught in schools, not to my recollection anyway.
@@soupycask It's entertaining to say the least. The assassin tried to shoot Jackson with two pistols which failed, then Jackson chased him down and beat him with his cane. Bystanders had to protect the assassin from him. It also predated the existence of the Secret Service but Jackson didn't need it.
I thought this would be a speedrun, but listing all the key players of each, some quick facts & the chef’s kiss🤌🏾 An iconic visual that symbolizes each incident. Kudos to you, sir! Dope video!
God JJ, I love your videos and personality, I hope I never stop learning from you specifically. If I could chose to learn everything from one person it would be you.
One bizarre detail about the Lincoln assassination that should be mentioned is that the assassin was a well-known actor, and in fact his brother was one of the most famous actors in the country. Also, _"sic semper tyrannis"_ was a quote from Brutus, one of Edwin Booth's acclaimed Shakespearean roles. So to unashamedly steal a tumblr post that made the rounds a few years ago, the modern-day equivalent would be Liam Hemsworth assassinating the president and saying "I went for the head"
Chapman's impact on the Catcher in the Rye book, boy was that an understatement. To this days film and TV creators place it in any scene that introduces or tries to visually define a character with just some of Chapman's proclivities. The book itself is almost itself shorthand for that brand of "being off"...
29:13 evolution of children playground equipment for America (ball pit started at sea world), rise and fall of the climbing dome, the various risky playgrounds, philosophy of playground design.
I find it funny how half of the successful US presidential assasinations are considered 'not culturally relevant' , while several failed attempts, assassinations of non-leading politicians, and one murder that isn't even an assassination (John Lennon was a singer, not a politician. Tupac's murder is called a murder) are considered more relevant. Garfield's death helped end the Spoils System (and was also just a comedy of errors thanks to Doctor Doctor Willy Bliss) and McKinley's death is the entire reason Teddy got into power, and also basically destroyed the American Anarchist and Proto-Communist movements with the backlash it caused.
In India, the tragic assassinations of Mahatma Gandhi, Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi have become the most culturally important. Some even consider Lal Bahadur Shastri's 'mysterious' death in Tashkent, which has become an iconic conspiracy theory.
Very interesting video. Another award on its way! I saw you wandering around downtown last week but decided not to hound you this time. Thanks for such insightful videos and viewpoints.
I feel like the most iconic photo from John Lennons assassination was him singing something for Mark David Chapman earlier that morning. You can even see Chapman standing off to the side
I highly recommend everyone look up the story about how the death of John Lennon was announced by Howard Cosell during Monday Night Football. Story is here on UA-cam. Also, there's footage of the Reagan attempt synced with the King of the Hill theme.
Not an assassination attempt but the guy that threw the shoe at George w bush is important it shows how many people feel about foreign governments that compete against their interests
JJ omitted the two attempts against Gerald Ford, both by women. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme had such a memorable name, and history as a Manson Family follower. Sara Jane Moore was the typical political nutcase.
The full sentence in the Warren Report conclusions, from which you highlight only three words, is "On the basis of the evidence before the Commission it concludes that Oswald acted alone." In the conclusions prior to that statement are many statements about what they did not find. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The report does not rule out the possibility of a conspiracy, but only states that they found none, therefore conclude that there was none. The report did not clear up the mysteries behind the assassination, and at this late date they will never be known. Everone who might have known something is now gone. One important figure, Ruby, never said anything but that brief statement you quoted. Nobody should take that statement at face value.
Like a lot of historical figures, a lot of his views are way beyond the pale nowadays. One that particularly stands out is his approval of lynching Italians in New Orleans and not just that but he was just generally pro-lynching. It's an odd view to hold when you're literally supposed to be the guy that enforce the law and keep order. It was a different time, I guess.
@@nuke___8876 TR was by no means perfect but I think as a whole, even though we tend to think of him more as being culturally influential, his style of Progressive politics: the trust busting, the environmental conservation, Big stick diplomacy, ect. It all is still relevant today. He defiantly was a racist, but so was Abraham Lincoln. Products of their time to be sure. I think if TR was around today he likely wouldn't hold those problematic views.
Checked John Hinckley's UA-cam Channel and discovered that he recently posted a video denouncing the Trump assassination attempt, talk about character growth lol
There is a photo of Lennon signing a autograph for Chapman hours before his death and that is the photo I always picture as being iconic of that event.
In the case of Sirhan Sirhan (Robert F Kennedy assassination) He was originally sentenced to death, vut the law changed in California in 1972 and eliminated the Death Penalty retroactively. Everyone, in California who was sentenced to death had their sentence changed to life in prison with the possibility of parole. (strange fact: in August, 2021 Sirhan was granted parole by a 2 person panel, but in January 2022 Gov. Gavin Newsome blocked it.)
Would Eisenhower not count as a WW2 veteran? I know he wasn’t on the ground clearing trenches but only because he was doing something more important in the war.
It's likely just because of the serious subject matter, as old as these events are. He usually lowers his tone when talking about historical tragedies, or similarly grim events
i have to say, this is a well-made video, but one utterly massive assassinations you missed was the killing of tupac shakur. his status in hip hop both as a musician and celebrity, as well as his immortalization through sudden death, has had massive effects throughout hip hop culture, even with his death being one of the central pieces of the most recent historical music-related event: the kendrick-drake war. i would also argue that his classification as “murder” rather than “assassination” could be playing into a historical bias that black death has been less relevant than white death. based on how music culture has played out, tupac’s assassination has had a WAAY bigger cultural impact than lennon’s death, not to mention that lennon isn’t even american.
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doesnt work out of the usa??? but you live in North USA???? (CANADA?)
Honestly I think a lot already came out to the internet you can thank the internet for exposing the flaws and the in confidence of trump security team fact if the internet was around during Lincoln lifetime I think we would have known a lot more
When will the Next Donald Trump video come out?
odd how UA-cam decided the Reagan assassination attempt was the one that needed extra context
I guess they gave up on JFK
What do you mean? Do you get one of those Wikipedia context thingies on this video?
@@algepaca yes. You don’t? I wonder why it only appears on some? Do you have pop up blockers or something?
@@lostcauselancer333 I have ad blocking on and fully functional, and I still get those. There is a Chrome extension you can download that blocks them, but I don't generally care enough to go out of my way to block them.
@@lostcauselancer333 no, I'm using the iOS app right now. I guess some of these only show up for people in certain regions, I'm in Germany :) Funny, I never noticed that before.
Shoutout to Richard Lawrence, the first man to try to kill a sitting president. He attempted to shoot Andrew Jackson with two different pistols, but both misfired. Jackson then began to attack Lawrence with his cane, before Davy Crockett (yes, that one) managed to neutralize Lawrence
There was an unnamed sailor who tried to assassinate Andrew Jackson with a club before that one, after initially knocking Jackson down Jackson’s friends chased him off
Didn’t they also have to stop Andrew Jackson from beating the man to death.
@@tom9841 That's the version of the story I heard. It fits in well with Ol' Hickory's reputation for personal toughness.
@@willfakaroni5808I can’t find anything about an unnamed sailor attempting to kill Jackson. Got a source?
Deep down I wish the fates of Lincoln and Jackson could have been reversed.
Also fun fact about the Latino busboy that was comforting Kennedy: he was actually holding a rosary that he kept on him and was comforting Kennedy is his last moments. Kennedy was a Catholic, which was odd for US politics in those times
"Fun" fact.
Only Catholic President until Biden.
Not the most iconic assassination in American history, but the assassination of James Garfield has one of the wackiest assassins. Charles Giteau was quite a character.
Sam o nella
Was he though? I think most of the assassins were just clearly mentally ill, and I am a little leery of treating them in an overly credulous way, as like, whimsical wacky dudes.
@@JJMcCulloughhe had been part of some very strange cults. Definitely very mentally ill
@JJMcCullough Extremely mentally ill. The man literally believed he was divinely choosen to change the world as the Minister of Chile
@@JJMcCulloughI think Guiteau is different just because he was by many years the oldest of the presidential assassins, aged 40, so he had a much more thorough history of poor life decisions leading up to killing Garfield that were fairly well documented during the process of his trial.
James Earl Ray was also 40 but he had a more standard criminal backstory.
We’ve entered the “Weird Al” phase of JJ hair.
It looks so dope tho
@@GreenMudkipz I'm not sure JJ's physically capable of NOT looking dope. He somehow manages to wear every hair/facial hair style with the perfect balance of confidence and charm to conjure a constant aura of cool.
@@theoriginaledi he is a baddie
@@GreenMudkipz He shake it like jelly🙈
I was thinking like late 70s George Harrison
You can actually go see the bullet that killed Lincoln (as well as a tiny fragment of his skull) in person to this day. It’s at the National Museum for Health and Medicine in Maryland. It’s a very small, free museum, and usually pretty empty. There’s a lot of odd, often dubiously ethical things on display there. Definitely one of the weirder museums in the DC area.
I had heard of that a bit before, there's also the Mütter museum in Philadelphia which is similar and which I know has also grappled with the ethics of displaying human remains recently.
@@TheAlexSchmidt Oratoire Saint Joseph in Montreal: "Hold my beer!"
Shame it's in Maryland. Used to live there for five years - including in the nominally more "affluent" areas (at least on paper) - and would not recommend that state whatsoever.
Is that the meuseum were Daniel Sickles leg is ?
@@niccolorichter1488 Indeed.
You missed the bush shoe
How can you kill anyone with a shoe
@mahderahman278 you just never know. It could have been filled with a anvil
Damnit I knew I forgot something
@@Kelso2003 could be I don't know what's in the shoe for all I know that you could be made out of metal, you have a solid point
That really hurt! I'm gonna have a lump there, you idiot! Who throws a shoe? Honestly!
You forgot to mention that one of John Lennon’s last pictures was of him signing his autograph for Chapman.
Indeed….he took Chapman for one of the crowd of odd people still holding onto whatever the 1960’s was for them…John indulged them with a very honest kindness, as the 1980 John Lennon was much more calm than even the John Lennon of 5 years before then, and he knew that everything he had was owed to weirdos like them….and I’m sure someone at some point told him that it would get him killed someday, but Give Peace a Chance.
What sticks with me is how emblematic the whole event is of just….all the worst aspects of post World War II America. The spectacle of it, with the media wanting their pictures, the continued cruelty thrown at Yoko who now wanted to find a way to blame her for this tragedy…you have a perfect display of the cracks in the mental health system, already doing poorly after decades of bleeding the system of support and funding so they could quietly end the system entirely….leading to the issues of deranged and sad people who terrorize us on a weekly basis today.
You have the Catcher in the Rye, a moral story for the same youth Lennon was speaking to…and then you have Chapman, a truly lost soul in all this noise.
It’s tragic all around, and it is as American as it gets.
And we learned nothing. The famous actors, musicians and politicians got better security. The rich build gated communities. And so it is just us and them; normal people like us who were not lucky enough to have wealth, and the madmen who want infamy and meaning in a world that has robbed us all of everything.
Surprised he didnt use that one. I’m Gen Z and for my generation that’s probably the most famous Lennon photo, and as iconic as part of the Beatles legacy as abbey road.
There is also the famous photo of Lennon's bloodied glasses that Yoko Ono took.
I would have added Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls in the list, too, or as honorable mentions, just because of how culturally influential the pair were, even outside hip-hop.
The fact that they were rivals in life, but were both assasinated in quick succession, adds to the dramatism of their deaths.
I'm not into rap at all. I'd heard of Tupac, but I'd never heard of Biggie until he was killed.
oh for sure
You killed it with this one JJ.
You haven't watched the video yet...
LOL
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Smarmy smart assassin comment
Ba-dum tss
JJ future-proofing this video by specifying "the Civil War of 1861-1865"
Oh God you're right
It's a conspiracy, JJ confirmed illuminati
Sad but likely true 😭
Probably just stating the war dates for information reasons.
@@j.s.7335 ... bruh
I think it's worth stating that the United States of America is actually really good at handling the aftermath of assassinations. The perp is caught and arrested, the victim is swiftly replaced if they were an officeholder, business continues as usual, nobody starts World War 1. Political violence is terrible, but in america assassinations are rarely ever allowed to *escalate* into retaliatory violence, and in time they become tragedies rather than political pivot points.
That is genuinely impressive for any nation to achieve.
Most of the time their killed
It's a bit simplistic to say that this one assassination was the real reason behind WW1. Countries were aching for a war and were looking for a casus belli.
You're not wrong, but it is worth noting that we've never had a president assassinated by an assassin who was funded by a foreign government. This is what made the Franz Ferdinand assassination so politically charged. If he had been shot by a random Austrian trying to impress Greta Garbo I think it would have been a different story.
tbh we've only had one or two presidential assassinations that we know for sure were politically charged. all of the other ones were just carried out by lunatics that wanted to appear on the news.
I'd argue the two worst ones were Lincoln's worsening reconstruction era violence and McKinley leading to significant anti-left crackdowns over the following 20 years
Presidents McKinley and Garfield are crying after watching this video
McKinley's been crying ever since Obama renamed his mountain to Denali.
The 60s were an insane decade huh. Kinda makes the past 10 years feel more precedented than everyone says.
Wow, I never realized Lee Harvey Oswald was only 24. His mugshot makes him look mid 30s to early 40s
People in that era aged WAY faster with all the lead gas and cigarettes.
People just used to look older
@@TheSupremeTsar Or (1) the cues we use to understand age are tied to the associated cohorts we observe later, and (2) Oswald had just taken a few hits to the face at the time of the mugshot.
Most people in the Western world prior to the 1970s and 1980s looked significantly older due to the ubiquitous nature of smoking and drinking in public. Seriously, smoking in general was so widespread that many U.S. high schools had designated smoking areas and break times for students until the 1980s. Not just for faculty, but students!
Weird to think about. Didn't he serve in the military AND live in the Soviet Union? He had quite a life in those 24 years.
12:16 Fun Fact: The Soviet Union was terrified after the news of JFK’s death and Lee’s affiliation with Communism because they thought the US would blame the Soviets. The Soviets also made sure to verify that Lee wasn’t affiliated with the KGB because Lee had spent time in the USSR
The USSR also directly popularized the first conspiracy theories about the JFK assassination, using KGB-funded front companies to publish books by obscure authors claiming that the limo driver was the one who killed Kennedy. So yeah, now 60 years later most Americans believe (wrongly) JFK was killed in some kind of conspiracy all because the Soviets wanted to shift blame away from themselves for something they didn't even do.
Yeah, History Matters did a video on this topic. The Soviets were initially worried that one of their agents in the US had gone rogue and were relieved when an American was arrested for the assassination. But then when it became clear that he was a communist who had lived in the Soviet Union, the Soviet government had another round of panic until they determined that he had never been recruited by the KGB or other entity of the Soviet state.
I think Reagan's comment when a balloon popped a couple of months later ought to have gotten a mention.
"Missed me."
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Some I would add for a world context in no particular order would be
1. Mahatma Ghandi
2. John Paul ii (attempt)
3. George wallace
4.Julius Caesar
5. Huey Long
6. Shinzo Abe
7 Ngo Dihn Diem
8. Archduke Franz Ferdinand
9.Margaret Thacher (attempt)
10. Tsar Alexander III
That's a solid list. I would add Indira Gandhi and Dr. Verwoerd of South Africa.
I think you mean Alexander II
@kasunex1772 yeah you're right.
Itzhak Rabin too
Would Nicholas II and the Romanovs maybe be on that list too?
While you might not realize how important the McKinley assassination was, it made Theodore Roosevelt's career. Thomas Platt wanted Roosevelt out of the way in New York and engineered his nomination as vice president. When McKinley was shot everything changed for him.
22:51 I thought that there was a photo of Lennon giving his assassin an autograph the same night. That’s a fairly striking image too.
Would have been interesting to talk about Shinzo Abe's assassination, especially due to the shooter's deeply personal motive.
I think JJ was restricting his scope to American assassinations. That said, he's also interested in Japanese culture, so perhaps he'll do an Abe video one day.
I'd argue the Shinzo Abe assassination has definitely made its way into American culture, so would probably fit within the scope of "Assassinations most people expect you to know about" although I doubt most Americans know much about it other than that it happened and about the homemade weapon that was used.
perhaps JJ could make a follow up video covering the notable assassinations and attempts in world history
There's a really good video about his assassination and the related background involving the shooters family and the unification church on the UA-cam channel spectacles.
Shinzo is definitely going down as one of the most significant political Assassinations/ attempts of the 21st century
“How did you like the play Mrs Lincoln” has also become a joke you deploy when there is some obvious factor that you are ignoring to discuss something that doesn’t matter
I was looking to see if someone made this comment. However, the joke is usually phrased "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?"
An anachronism, Zapruder used a home movie film camera, not a camcorder. Home video cameras were 1980’s and later.
I’d also say that the photo of Lennon signing an autograph for Chapman earlier that day is a good candidate for a photo more closely related to the assassination
I think something very important that you missed was the King family suing the FBI and winning.
See the Loyd Jowers trial
Yes!!!! The FBI even admitted "yea that was us. No take backsies". The Kings tried so hard to get Ray out of prison too and get his freedom ❤
It's weird that this video is flagged with a "Topical context in information panel" for the Attempt on Reagan. Like I didn't know there was any dispute over the subject (and Topical Context Info panels are usually posted on videos about contentious issues or those prone to "misinformation").
The topical context panels tend to be covering a partisan topic, ie climate change, covid, etc
Whites kids u know did a comedy skit years ago where they joke and maybe believed that vice president George H. W. Bush wanted to kill him to become president and how he was friends with the Hinkleys.
Ikr you'd think it would be the JFK assassination.
This is made stranger by JJ calling the rally shooting an attempted assassination. As we do not know the motive, attempted assassination is the likeliest even safest assumption to make. But nonetheless still an assumption.
Some crazy just wanted to shoot up a rally is every bit as evidenced, yet immediately dismissed summary.
The Soviets notoriously overreacted (thinking it was a coup attempt by Haig or Bush), and based on _Freaks and Geeks_ I guess there were some short-lived conspiracy theories based on the Soviet overreaction?
UA-cam flagged the Reagan attempt specifically because John Hinckley Jr. is here on UA-cam making outsider folk music now (some of it's lowkey kinda good too; _Never Ending Quest_ is a jam)
That's a reasonable explanation.
Thank you, when he described Hinckley as singing "country" songs I was nearly radicalized myself
@@steventrotter4958 it's at least closer to country than anything that plays on present-day Country Radio ☕
Eisenhower is the first WW2 veteran president, not JFK.
I think he meant like on the frontlines
front lines not general
he obviously meant a common soldier infantryman
@@PASTRAMIKick He was a naval officer, not a "common soldier infantryman".
@@PASTRAMIKickJFK was in the Navy.
A new JJ video always makes my day! This explains why Im always happy on Sundays!
8:59 How was Dwight D. Eisenhower not a WWII veteran? He was the ultimate WWII veteran! Dwight D. Eisenhower was the most WWII person to have ever lived! He was the supreme allied commander in the European theater and as a civilian who had left the military by the time he was president was technically a veteran.
Technically you have to actually serve in the war to be a veteran, while he just was in charge. He is a veteran but not for WWII
@@Conor1_23 No, officers are still considered veterans even if they don't see combat. Look up the definition of veteran and it'll back me up. And to be clear, Dwight D. Eisenhower served in WWII. He was a very busy man who had work all the time and that work was service. What he did was service to America, to democracy, and against the Nazis. A man whose service in WWII cannot be overstated and deserves reverence. He was a soldier in WWII, not just in charge.
He never saw active combat
@@jacksonhamilton6302 all though I personally don't think being in charge of an army makes you a veteran of that war, the definition does say "A former member of an armed forces" so you're right there
@@jacksonhamilton6302he was a pencil pusher. Didn’t participate in combat. JFK was a million times more the war hero than Dwight.
The FDR assassination attempt in 1933 was a big one. The Chicago mayor was the one accidentally shot and he died.
Okay but how well is that remembered, if at all, in the modern American imagination? It’s not even taught in schools, not in my experience anyway.
Some people think the Chicago mayor was the intended target, not FDR.
I feel like the assassination of Franz Ferdinand that started WWI is hugely impactful on American history even if not technically part of American history per se.
"There must of been a point where he saw the Archduke drive by, looking at his gun in one hand and his sandwich in the other... and chose violence" -Wendigoon 20xx
I always feel like Harvey Milk is left off these sort of lists despite having quite an important and interesting assassination
Okay but again, how well is Harvey Milk remembered in the modern American imagination? Would the average American know him? I wouldn’t even be sure the average Gay American would know him, unless they interact with Gay Culture and History a lot.
I am not saying by the way his assassination meant nothing or anything like that, simply that it isn’t really that remembered or immortalized in the American imagination today.
@@soupycask - Yeah, I only learned about him from LGBT video essays. And even then, he wasn't the main focus of those videos.
oh yeah, the guy who groomed young homeless dudes, he accomplished a lot for his cause during his short time in politics, thankfully he stopped (unwillingly but still)
@@soupycask You seem to think the most important fact about an assassination is its ratings. Public memory does not correlate to how impactful an assassination was.
How different would the world be if FDR hadn't been around to manoeuvre a reluctant U.S.into aiding Britain during the Blitz, and later into WWII? Maybe you don't know the high percentage of Americans who either wanted nothing to do with another European war so soon after the previous one, or who even outright supported the Nazis? Getting the U.S. to oppose fascism, even allying with the Soviet Union to do it? That was a heavy lift that not all politicians could manage. Another politician might even have become president on a platform of support for the Nazis. This oonly seems farfetched because FDR lived.
Likewise, Milk, who was an astonishingly able and intuitive politician, had he lived, might well have gone on to be a Senator. Would he have permitted the Reagan Administration to ignore AIDS as they did? Would Jesse Helms' obstruction been as effective if there had been someone, anyone at all, but especially Milk with his penchant for making gay issues relatable to straights, defending the Lesbian and Gay communities at the federal level?
The list in this video includes the murder (hardly an "assassination") of a popular singer/songwriter, and an event where a bystander was killed and a former President had his ear scratched by flying debris. Both events got great coverage. Neither had any impact on the course of history.
That you choose instead to dismiss the assassination of Milk and the attempt on Roosevelt because, ho hum, no one talks about them, suggests that you confuse popularity with importance.
8:57 Eisenhower was a WW2 veteran.
Well no, you have to actually serve to be considered a veteran, he was just in charge. Was he important? Yes. Was he a veteran? No.
I guess he did serve in the war, but he was leading troops, not himself fighting
@@Conor1_23this is the most ignorant comment I’ve read today.
@@Conor1_23definition source: i made it up
@@ggtjr4 I did come off a bit arrogant about something I thought I knew what I was talking about, but didn't. So I'm sorry
One could argue that the assassination of James Garfield was significant in that, since his assassin was a failed government office seeker and Garfield was an advocate of civil service reform, his popularity at the time and his successor’s desire to fulfill his legacy led to the elimination of the “spoils system” and introduction of modern civil service exams
The counter-argument is that many people don't know about this (or are like me and forgot that until just now), so it isn't as *culturally* relevant as the assassinations JJ covered.
That’s a good point, and I’m sure it’s mainly history nerds like me that remember it. I just brought it up mainly for the “little known fact” idea.
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I was surpise to learn that Booth, Oswald and bunch of other killers mentioned here were in their mid-20s. That really shakes my perspective, always thought their were much older than that
Actually, most assassins throughout history have have been around that age.
For the Lennon assassination, there was a photo of Lennon meeting Chapman a few hours before the shooting. Chapman was waiting outside Lennon's apartment with a copy of Lennon's latest album, and accompanied by a fellow fan with a camera. When Ono and Lennon came down, Chapman offered the album, to which Lennon signed, and the moment was captured on camera.
I'd argue the photo of Malcom's chair overturned with bullet holes in the background is the most inconic photo of the assasination. However I could understand the argument its not a photo "of" the assassination, but the aftermath.
I can't stop thinking about how an actual assassin who almost murdered the president has a youtube channel now. it sounds like the premise to a bad SNL skit
Another fun one: David Toska, the most notorious bank robber in Norwegian history, was invited as a guest commentator in the Norwegian coverage of the 2022 Tata Steel Chess tournament (he was released on probation in 2018). Naturally the media ran headlines like "Bank Robber Becomes Chess Expert".
Charles Guiteau is the wildest assassin story, how can you leave him out?!
He explained at the beginning of the video.
I had no idea Hinckley had been let out of prison so that country song was unintentionally hilarious
What makes a killing an assassination? Why is John Lennon’s death considered an assassination and not a murder?
Just because of his prominence making him a target. It wasn't a personal matter, or a robbery, as most common murders are.
your nuanced take on the malcolm x legacy is appreciated.
I do find it interesting that we consider the murder of John Lennon an "assassination", however the murder of Tupac is just a murder.
i considered 2pac, lennon, & biggie to all have been assassinated
It could be because the perpetrator of Lennon's assassination was apprehended and all the details surrounding it had been widely publicised. Still, you raise an interesting point.
Typically assassinations are more planned out with a deep motive behind it. Murder not so much.
I think because by that point, Lennon was seen as part-musician, part-political activist.
Maybe they considered the east coast vs west coast stuff a gang-related conflict with many deaths involved. Or maybe it's the simplest answer, and it's just racial bias.
Speak for yourself
4:45 Despite the fact that there was no photo of the actual assassination, I'd argue the most famous photograph associated with it is probably the series of photos taken by Alexander Gardner of the executions of Booth's co-conspirators. Very morbid, but at the same time very historically important and in a way fascinating.
When it comes to Oswald, you also forget to mention he was a Marine, he was more than just a communist but that he defected for a period to the USSR before coming back to the US, and that he married his wife in the USSR.
Also Ion Pacepa, head for Foreign Intelligence for the DIE (Romania's KGB, the guy who was the equivalent to the CIA director) from 1971-1978, until the day he died said he was 100% sure the USSR was behind it and thought Oswald's wife was a Soviet agent (Oswald's wife was the niece of a Colonel in Ministry of Internal Affairs, who married him just after 6 weeks of dating, and met him only a few weeks after his defection allegedly at a dance completely randomly). He claimed in the 2000s, that communist Romania's report at the time, thought the GRU was behind it and that Oswald was GRU trained during his time in the USSR. However there is no proof, other than communist Romania thought so from their analysis. He did write a whole book based on this called "Programmed to Kill", but once again, no solid evidence.
Oswald was a cia agent
The ultimate assassin of Theodore Roosevelt was in fact Death himself, who took Teddy in his sleep. The reason being, had Teddy been awake to meet Death, it would have been an extremely long and tough fight.
Andrew Jackson, he’s the first to survive an assassination attempt on his life from an unemployed mentally ill painter named Richard Lawrence
Okay but is that assassination attempt that well remembered in the modern conscious? I wouldn’t say so, it’s not even taught in schools, not to my recollection anyway.
@@soupycask It's entertaining to say the least. The assassin tried to shoot Jackson with two pistols which failed, then Jackson chased him down and beat him with his cane. Bystanders had to protect the assassin from him. It also predated the existence of the Secret Service but Jackson didn't need it.
Ah yes. He thought he was Lawrence of Arabia. Turned out he couldn’t even defeat an old man with a cane!! 🤣🥹
I thought this would be a speedrun, but listing all the key players of each, some quick facts & the chef’s kiss🤌🏾 An iconic visual that symbolizes each incident. Kudos to you, sir! Dope video!
God JJ, I love your videos and personality, I hope I never stop learning from you specifically. If I could chose to learn everything from one person it would be you.
The nutjob who killed Garfield is also a super interesting story.
President Ford had two up close and personal assassin atempts
I think its really interesting that the photo most often displayed during talks of Lennon's assassination, is that of him doing the funny walk.
One bizarre detail about the Lincoln assassination that should be mentioned is that the assassin was a well-known actor, and in fact his brother was one of the most famous actors in the country. Also, _"sic semper tyrannis"_ was a quote from Brutus, one of Edwin Booth's acclaimed Shakespearean roles. So to unashamedly steal a tumblr post that made the rounds a few years ago, the modern-day equivalent would be Liam Hemsworth assassinating the president and saying "I went for the head"
Don't you mean Chris Hemsworth? Chris was Thor and Liam was Gale in the Hunger Games
"Sic semper tyrannis" is not from Shakespeare's _Julius Caesar._ It's the state motto of Virginia.
While it's a fun meme, the phrase itself has deeper roots in the Revolutionary War and American Republicanism.
it should be noted that Lincoln didn't die at the scene, he actually died the next morning of his injuries
Hinckley's UA-cam channel at the end was somehow the most surprising turn in this video!
Chapman's impact on the Catcher in the Rye book, boy was that an understatement. To this days film and TV creators place it in any scene that introduces or tries to visually define a character with just some of Chapman's proclivities. The book itself is almost itself shorthand for that brand of "being off"...
29:13 evolution of children playground equipment for America (ball pit started at sea world), rise and fall of the climbing dome, the various risky playgrounds, philosophy of playground design.
I find it funny how half of the successful US presidential assasinations are considered 'not culturally relevant' , while several failed attempts, assassinations of non-leading politicians, and one murder that isn't even an assassination (John Lennon was a singer, not a politician. Tupac's murder is called a murder) are considered more relevant.
Garfield's death helped end the Spoils System (and was also just a comedy of errors thanks to Doctor Doctor Willy Bliss) and McKinley's death is the entire reason Teddy got into power, and also basically destroyed the American Anarchist and Proto-Communist movements with the backlash it caused.
You can make your own video then
17:53 There’s an entire video on the subject that explains how it happened
I would argue that the picture that John Lennon had taken with his murderer earlier that day is more iconic and tied to his assassination
In India, the tragic assassinations of Mahatma Gandhi, Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi have become the most culturally important. Some even consider Lal Bahadur Shastri's 'mysterious' death in Tashkent, which has become an iconic conspiracy theory.
Forgot about 1 very important assassination, the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand
Your whole style is fire bro. Not a hair cut that doesn’t work on you
I have to look up your videos, they have been taken off my feed. I'm so happy you are still making videos
Sotra astonishing how Trump's assassination became an irrelevant theme by the time JJ's finished his video
Getting sweaty and throwing up every Saturday night waiting for Sunday with JJ
Zapruder 'camcorder?!" Oh, JJ...Super-8 mm FILM. Still love your videos, hair, and big bouncy ball.
Very interesting video. Another award on its way!
I saw you wandering around downtown last week but decided not to hound you this time.
Thanks for such insightful videos and viewpoints.
Happiness is a warm gun... When you're a bit crazy
I feel like the most iconic photo from John Lennons assassination was him singing something for Mark David Chapman earlier that morning. You can even see Chapman standing off to the side
I highly recommend everyone look up the story about how the death of John Lennon was announced by Howard Cosell during Monday Night Football. Story is here on UA-cam.
Also, there's footage of the Reagan attempt synced with the King of the Hill theme.
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Not an assassination attempt but the guy that threw the shoe at George w bush is important it shows how many people feel about foreign governments that compete against their interests
As always thank you for a great video
JJ's Jim Morrison phase
As a Star Wars obsessive, I’ve noted how there hasn’t been any obvious Star Wars representation in the background. This vid certainly compensates
JJ omitted the two attempts against Gerald Ford, both by women. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme had such a memorable name, and history as a Manson Family follower. Sara Jane Moore was the typical political nutcase.
The full sentence in the Warren Report conclusions, from which you highlight only three words, is "On the basis of the evidence before the Commission it concludes that Oswald acted alone." In the conclusions prior to that statement are many statements about what they did not find. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The report does not rule out the possibility of a conspiracy, but only states that they found none, therefore conclude that there was none.
The report did not clear up the mysteries behind the assassination, and at this late date they will never be known. Everone who might have known something is now gone. One important figure, Ruby, never said anything but that brief statement you quoted. Nobody should take that statement at face value.
New Trump assassination attempt just dropped inthe golf course
Garfield and McKinnley got absolutely snubbed.
Teddy Roosevelt is the greatest US president, you CAN'T change my mind.
He's the most stereotypical American ever, but in a good way.
Like a lot of historical figures, a lot of his views are way beyond the pale nowadays. One that particularly stands out is his approval of lynching Italians in New Orleans and not just that but he was just generally pro-lynching. It's an odd view to hold when you're literally supposed to be the guy that enforce the law and keep order.
It was a different time, I guess.
@@nuke___8876 TR was by no means perfect but I think as a whole, even though we tend to think of him more as being culturally influential, his style of Progressive politics: the trust busting, the environmental conservation, Big stick diplomacy, ect. It all is still relevant today. He defiantly was a racist, but so was Abraham Lincoln. Products of their time to be sure. I think if TR was around today he likely wouldn't hold those problematic views.
@@nuke___8876 i mean, Italians are just corrupted barbarized romans. So based.
You gotta admit that he is to blame for WILSOOOOOON getting elected tho
And also, they say he hated being referred to as "Teddy".
Another EXCELLENT, well researched and very well explained video. Thanks very much. Cheers!
Checked John Hinckley's UA-cam Channel and discovered that he recently posted a video denouncing the Trump assassination attempt, talk about character growth lol
he literally said "I know I'm known for an act of violence" in the video
Another great video by JJ.
What a shame with RFK.... personally, i think he wouldve been a GREAT president, especially domestically.
There is a photo of Lennon signing a autograph for Chapman hours before his death and that is the photo I always picture as being iconic of that event.
There's only 9 cases here, not 10.
There are 10 in the thumbnail because JJ is counting Lee Harvey Oswald.
you nailed this video, good job!
I dont get why any murderers are offered the possibility of parole
In the case of Sirhan Sirhan (Robert F Kennedy assassination) He was originally sentenced to death, vut the law changed in California in 1972 and eliminated the Death Penalty retroactively. Everyone, in California who was sentenced to death had their sentence changed to life in prison with the possibility of parole. (strange fact: in August, 2021 Sirhan was granted parole by a 2 person panel, but in January 2022 Gov. Gavin Newsome blocked it.)
I was hoping you'd cover this topic in light of recent events!
Superb as always, both the hair and the video.
Would Eisenhower not count as a WW2 veteran? I know he wasn’t on the ground clearing trenches but only because he was doing something more important in the war.
That confused me too. I don't know why he wouldn't count
He didn't consider himself a veteran of the war.
@@JJMcCullough Whether Eisenhower did or not , the U.S. Veterans Affairs office would do so today. Politically savvy modesty might apply here . . .
I was waiting for this video. You look a little down. Hopefully everything's good. Thanks JJ
It's likely just because of the serious subject matter, as old as these events are. He usually lowers his tone when talking about historical tragedies, or similarly grim events
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i have to say, this is a well-made video, but one utterly massive assassinations you missed was the killing of tupac shakur. his status in hip hop both as a musician and celebrity, as well as his immortalization through sudden death, has had massive effects throughout hip hop culture, even with his death being one of the central pieces of the most recent historical music-related event: the kendrick-drake war.
i would also argue that his classification as “murder” rather than “assassination” could be playing into a historical bias that black death has been less relevant than white death. based on how music culture has played out, tupac’s assassination has had a WAAY bigger cultural impact than lennon’s death, not to mention that lennon isn’t even american.
Excuse me for off topic comment
When the hell are we going to get more jj travel videos?
There arent many of those since covid
It's insane to me that in the year 2024, a video of THIS topic has gotten a new relevant addition within a third of a year's time
Rip Garfield and McKinley, the forgotten assassinated presidents