Ngl I'ma Roomba fan because i own a Roomba but Roborock has a strong product and it's good to see both companies trying to best each other. It's good for us, the consumer.
I bought a j7 a month ago and I have to say, I’m disappointed. I really want to give others a heads up. If you have a lot of black items or rugs with black sections in your house, the j7 is horrible. It registers black as a cliff or the edge of stairs so it won’t vacuum over rugs with black accents. I have a home with a black and white color scheme for reference. We have black doors and doorframes and the robot just stares at them for a long time thinking before banging into the frame or the open door itself. Half of one room never gets mapped or cleaned because the carpet runner with a black center strip makes the robot turn away. It also requires a large amount of light otherwise it cancels cleaning early. My home is not pitch dark, there’s ambient light from the windows, and the robot has its own led light but it’s still not bright enough. I have to make sure all the lights are on for it not to cancel. I’ve had it running for a month in my home everyday and it still gets lost and spends about 6 hours a day vacuuming the only a couple rooms and leaving several rooms untouched. The map is about 80% correct. The last 20% is consistently messed up and every “edit” the robot makes somehow still messes up the map. On the portions that are mapped correctly, j7 still gets lost, misses areas when vacuuming, and slams into walls. The worst part is that it vacuums “better” -if you can call it better- if you turn off the ai detection. Reason being is that on carpets, it’s wheels leave tracks in the rug. So after it makes a pass on the rug, it sees it’s own tire track, thinks that it’s a wire, and now it has effectively cut off more than half of the room from being vacuumed. My home is clean and picked up. There’s no obstacles that should really pose it any issue other than shoes in the mud room and it actually does well avoiding those. I’ve tried cleaning the sensor, do multiple mapping runs, delete the map to have it remap, have it “clean everywhere” every day, even spent days with ALL MY LIGHTS ON in the house and it still…ugh. I regret my purchase.
thanks for the comment I was debating getting the j7+ but I have a lot of black gym mats next to white tiles so it might do the cliff avoidance as well
I think Roborock really compromised the performance via the half-assed engineering they've done. Large things that aren't well compressed like the cotton balls don't fit out between the brush, large hard debris if it makes it out of the bin and brush is caught by the air duct that's narrow for the bend they have set up for the bagless bin and it's cyclone set up that we don't even get in the US. I stay away from Roborock due to the brush issues on carpet, but I had high hopes that this would be better than it is.
I think that if you actually have the robots aspirate these debris through their rolling brushes, the debris will crack, shatter and become in a shape and size that would probably be sucked out much easier than putting these debris in their original shape without passing through the rolling brushes. Would be interesting to see the difference in a "real live experience" with debris ont the floor first then aspirated and finally sucked by the emptying dock system.
Thanks Adam, are you cleaning the filters between tests? This is something else to consider when running these tests thanks again for your videos :) Roomba definitely wins these test both j7 and S9
I like the extreme tests. Makes us see where the design fails on the robots. This test was informative as wll as the Shark with its problem with jellybeans and so on. For most normal use cases I assume there will be no issues at all since we never manage to fill a dirtbin so much or pickup so much between each run. As an example: We have 2 cats and run our robots daily and the bin might get full after 1 full week and with auto empty each run the amount of debris will be much less. I have ordered the S7 empty bin for our S7.
I got my5200 battery this past Monday and it cleaned my bedrooms and bathrooms today and It cut the cleaning time from 4hr and 19 mins to 1hr and 54 mins didn’t even have to recharge at all it cleaned in one charge im a very happy person
I am a roomba fan cus I owned a 800 series roomba from 2013 for such a long time and yet it is working pretty good today! I did recently get the j7+ and I am also impressed with it. They both are doing a good job today!😄 I enjoyed watching the video as it was quite entertaining. I didn’t expect the roomba j7+ to win! Tbh I wonder how the roomba j7+ will do against the i7+. Who would you think would win? On the overall vacuuming and stuff. My friend owns a i7+
Just a thought not picking on one or the other has the j7 been used as much as the roborock ? Just was just wondering if the seals or other components on roborock are alittle more worn out causing a little worse result. Maybe use the j7 for a bit and retest?
Hey Adam, have you by any chance removed the brush roll recently in the Roborock S7? I recently bought one and after removing the brush roll for cleaning, I did not reinstall it properly and it would not empty the dustbin hardly at all. I realize you know what you are doing so doubt that is it, but it was in my case. BTW, I purchased the S7 partially based on some responses you gave me concerning my needs. Thanks for that and all of your videos!
Pfft .. I don't know. I would think if I dump that much cereal on the floor I would use a broom and maybe vacuum up the dust. Personally I have a 80# Australian Shepherd who sheds so much hair you wouldn't believe me if I told you; you could quilt a rug. The only reason we're considering one of these is we need something to vacuum literally everyday in the kitchen / great room area and everyone seems to be tired of doing that... I live in Florida next to a beach .. people don't get much sand in their house; maybe tourists that don't use outdoor showers and properly stow away and clean their towels.
I have two German shepherds and have had a roomba for the past 3 years. Literal life saver! Having something vacuum every day has made the hair so much more manageable
Thanks for the video. Are you setting these up with new bags for each test? Maybe one of them was full already. Also definitely looking forward to the vacuum surface comparison of these two models.
Using another vacuum to get things out of bins vertically are inefficient given the parameters at this current age. I would like to see a design where these vacuums could drop the contents thru an opening on the bottom of the devices such as a trap door. Using gravity and maybe a blower of some kind to better empty these contents. I think we’re still early on these so-called self-emptying bins. Any better alternatives?
I know it gets expensive and difficult, but it would be nice if all the vacuums had new filters and bags before the tests. Dirty bags and filters make a substantial difference on how well they pick up and empty.
As someone else mentioned already, would be great to see a test comparison/battle with half full bin which is the case that most users will experience.
Thought I’d made a decision which robot to get then more come out and now with auto empty bins. I’m back to square one. I have mainly carpet, the auto bin is not a deal breaker but tempted. Debating on roborock or iRobot unless you have any other recommendations. I’m also in the uk so may make a difference to what’s available. Thank you
@@leighbarrett6797 I think roombas are the best for carpet due to their dual brushes. Tested the u8+ and it did decent, but will still need to use a regular vaccume as well. Took the i8+ back and decided to get the J7+, it seems to bump into stuff much more carefully, carpet cleaning ability is probably about the same as the i7+/i8+. We have dogs so the ability to remove hair from carpet as well as laminate flooring is important to us. I do feel the J7+ was worth the price difference for us (avoid pet waste and cords better), ymmv.
@@JFlywheel I have a dyson v11 which is great. I Hoover everyday sometimes twice a day, but would like robot vacuum. I have a cat but he’s only ever in the kitchen or outside so don’t have to worry to much about pet hair. I like the j7 but keep looking at the roborock s5 max or s7. Hearing mixed reviews about both that’s why is difficult choosing
I don't think the fill sensors will allow the bins too get that full. My S9+ will intentionally go and empty the bin even if it's not full and resume. It really does mess up the airflow and pressure design filling them that much I think. Possibly try half full on the test. I'm watching anyway. Thanks
Binge watched sooo many Adam vids my head is spinning. I want a vac only, self empty, quiet, bagless (?) to be used on vinyl floor. Only a few small carpets, price not an option. Wife getting impatient by my indecision... Thanx y'all for suggestions
I think either of these are your best choices. The problem you have is the bagless. The only real option is the Shark and I would not recommend those over either of these.
@@AdamsReviews appreciate, will use your link. Probably splurge for a mop only vac as well in the future. Big help watching you, I never knew sooooo many companies were competing. Bagged seems would be less dusty upon removal, but isn't a deal breaker. Hope you are compensated for your efforts.
@@shanew7361 I installed all new vinyl floor with only small mats in kitchen, no carpets. Narwal vac does great job getting around the edges of rooms where dusty, linty crap collects. Quieter than I expected. Mopper doesn't apply a whole lot of pressure, but does a good job. Wife still goes behind it with Swifter since nothing is ever clean in her eyes. If it lasts 3yrs it will be worth it to me, everything breaks down in the end.
Adams "not very Impartial Tech reviews" new name for your channel, how many times did you say your surprised, thought you might shed a tear a few times? You sound heart broken and not very impartial, let the results speak for themselves and stop giving opinions beforehand which make you seem very biased.
Ngl I'ma Roomba fan because i own a Roomba but Roborock has a strong product and it's good to see both companies trying to best each other. It's good for us, the consumer.
I bought a j7 a month ago and I have to say, I’m disappointed. I really want to give others a heads up.
If you have a lot of black items or rugs with black sections in your house, the j7 is horrible. It registers black as a cliff or the edge of stairs so it won’t vacuum over rugs with black accents. I have a home with a black and white color scheme for reference.
We have black doors and doorframes and the robot just stares at them for a long time thinking before banging into the frame or the open door itself. Half of one room never gets mapped or cleaned because the carpet runner with a black center strip makes the robot turn away. It also requires a large amount of light otherwise it cancels cleaning early. My home is not pitch dark, there’s ambient light from the windows, and the robot has its own led light but it’s still not bright enough. I have to make sure all the lights are on for it not to cancel.
I’ve had it running for a month in my home everyday and it still gets lost and spends about 6 hours a day vacuuming the only a couple rooms and leaving several rooms untouched. The map is about 80% correct. The last 20% is consistently messed up and every “edit” the robot makes somehow still messes up the map. On the portions that are mapped correctly, j7 still gets lost, misses areas when vacuuming, and slams into walls.
The worst part is that it vacuums “better” -if you can call it better- if you turn off the ai detection. Reason being is that on carpets, it’s wheels leave tracks in the rug. So after it makes a pass on the rug, it sees it’s own tire track, thinks that it’s a wire, and now it has effectively cut off more than half of the room from being vacuumed.
My home is clean and picked up. There’s no obstacles that should really pose it any issue other than shoes in the mud room and it actually does well avoiding those.
I’ve tried cleaning the sensor, do multiple mapping runs, delete the map to have it remap, have it “clean everywhere” every day, even spent days with ALL MY LIGHTS ON in the house and it still…ugh. I regret my purchase.
thanks for the comment I was debating getting the j7+ but I have a lot of black gym mats next to white tiles so it might do the cliff avoidance as well
I think Roborock really compromised the performance via the half-assed engineering they've done. Large things that aren't well compressed like the cotton balls don't fit out between the brush, large hard debris if it makes it out of the bin and brush is caught by the air duct that's narrow for the bend they have set up for the bagless bin and it's cyclone set up that we don't even get in the US. I stay away from Roborock due to the brush issues on carpet, but I had high hopes that this would be better than it is.
I think that if you actually have the robots aspirate these debris through their rolling brushes, the debris will crack, shatter and become in a shape and size that would probably be sucked out much easier than putting these debris in their original shape without passing through the rolling brushes.
Would be interesting to see the difference in a "real live experience" with debris ont the floor first then aspirated and finally sucked by the emptying dock system.
I could see that with the fruit loops.
Thanks Adam, are you cleaning the filters between tests? This is something else to consider when running these tests thanks again for your videos :) Roomba definitely wins these test both j7 and S9
I like the extreme tests. Makes us see where the design fails on the robots. This test was informative as wll as the Shark with its problem with jellybeans and so on. For most normal use cases I assume there will be no issues at all since we never manage to fill a dirtbin so much or pickup so much between each run. As an example: We have 2 cats and run our robots daily and the bin might get full after 1 full week and with auto empty each run the amount of debris will be much less. I have ordered the S7 empty bin for our S7.
I got my5200 battery this past Monday and it cleaned my bedrooms and bathrooms today and It cut the cleaning time from 4hr and 19 mins to 1hr and 54 mins didn’t even have to recharge at all it cleaned in one charge im a very happy person
Awesome...Glad I could help you. Irobot is STUPID for not putting in a bigger battery.
I am a roomba fan cus I owned a 800 series roomba from 2013 for such a long time and yet it is working pretty good today! I did recently get the j7+ and I am also impressed with it. They both are doing a good job today!😄 I enjoyed watching the video as it was quite entertaining. I didn’t expect the roomba j7+ to win! Tbh I wonder how the roomba j7+ will do against the i7+. Who would you think would win? On the overall vacuuming and stuff. My friend owns a i7+
Just a thought not picking on one or the other has the j7 been used as much as the roborock ? Just was just wondering if the seals or other components on roborock are alittle more worn out causing a little worse result. Maybe use the j7 for a bit and retest?
Hey Adam, have you by any chance removed the brush roll recently in the Roborock S7? I recently bought one and after removing the brush roll for cleaning, I did not reinstall it properly and it would not empty the dustbin hardly at all. I realize you know what you are doing so doubt that is it, but it was in my case. BTW, I purchased the S7 partially based on some responses you gave me concerning my needs. Thanks for that and all of your videos!
Thanks, I double checked it and it was installed properly.
Would u recommend the j7+ over the S7 for strictly cleaning?
Pfft .. I don't know. I would think if I dump that much cereal on the floor I would use a broom and maybe vacuum up the dust. Personally I have a 80# Australian Shepherd who sheds so much hair you wouldn't believe me if I told you; you could quilt a rug. The only reason we're considering one of these is we need something to vacuum literally everyday in the kitchen / great room area and everyone seems to be tired of doing that...
I live in Florida next to a beach .. people don't get much sand in their house; maybe tourists that don't use outdoor showers and properly stow away and clean their towels.
I have two German shepherds and have had a roomba for the past 3 years. Literal life saver! Having something vacuum every day has made the hair so much more manageable
Thanks for the video. Are you setting these up with new bags for each test? Maybe one of them was full already. Also definitely looking forward to the vacuum surface comparison of these two models.
No, but I checked the bags neither was even half full.
What about the Eccovacs DEEBOT T9 + avi, also read they're coming out with the Ecovacs Deebot X1 OMNI.
Using another vacuum to get things out of bins vertically are inefficient given the parameters at this current age.
I would like to see a design where these vacuums could drop the contents thru an opening on the bottom of the devices such as a trap door. Using gravity and maybe a blower of some kind to better empty these contents.
I think we’re still early on these so-called self-emptying bins.
Any better alternatives?
I would like to see robot vacumm/ centeral vacumm system combine
I know it gets expensive and difficult, but it would be nice if all the vacuums had new filters and bags before the tests. Dirty bags and filters make a substantial difference on how well they pick up and empty.
Thanks but both filters were not very dirty
As someone else mentioned already, would be great to see a test comparison/battle with half full bin which is the case that most users will experience.
whatt?? I wasn't expecting that at all!
I'm assuming you're not showing the J7's loading and unloading because you assume everyone has watched some previous video?
Correct. I linked to the other video.
Thought I’d made a decision which robot to get then more come out and now with auto empty bins. I’m back to square one. I have mainly carpet, the auto bin is not a deal breaker but tempted. Debating on roborock or iRobot unless you have any other recommendations. I’m also in the uk so may make a difference to what’s available. Thank you
I do think this roborock s7+ or this new roomba j7+ is the best as of right now.
@@AdamsReviews is one better than the other with regards to carpet ?
@@leighbarrett6797 I think the Roborock will clean deeper on max suction.
@@leighbarrett6797 I think roombas are the best for carpet due to their dual brushes. Tested the u8+ and it did decent, but will still need to use a regular vaccume as well. Took the i8+ back and decided to get the J7+, it seems to bump into stuff much more carefully, carpet cleaning ability is probably about the same as the i7+/i8+. We have dogs so the ability to remove hair from carpet as well as laminate flooring is important to us. I do feel the J7+ was worth the price difference for us (avoid pet waste and cords better), ymmv.
@@JFlywheel I have a dyson v11 which is great. I Hoover everyday sometimes twice a day, but would like robot vacuum. I have a cat but he’s only ever in the kitchen or outside so don’t have to worry to much about pet hair. I like the j7 but keep looking at the roborock s5 max or s7. Hearing mixed reviews about both that’s why is difficult choosing
Was this with the plastic vet cover removed inside of the roborock? Needs to be removed to get the air flow
Yes of course. Thanks
If I was going to buy another robotic vacuum today, I'm going with the J7 👍
Surprising results. Roomba wins this round.
Yeah, I stay away from RR as they don't clean carpets very well and struggle with pet hair. Cotton balls are like pet hair clumps
Did you do shark in this test
Not yet but will.
I really believe that the Deebot T8 will beat the J7 in EVERY test but the cotton, easily!!!
I will have to do that test.
I still have my t8+
Four dogs with Sandy soil. Half hair half sand, I3+ has no issues.
Perhaps the bag in the roborock's base has been already close to full, which decreased suction power?
It was only maybe 1/4 full before this test
@@AdamsReviews Thank you for the clarification. Then I guess it is just not very good.
I don't think the fill sensors will allow the bins too get that full. My S9+ will intentionally go and empty the bin even if it's not full and resume. It really does mess up the airflow and pressure design filling them that much I think. Possibly try half full on the test. I'm watching anyway. Thanks
Thanks...the roomba is the only one that would go back. The roborock does not have a sensor
Binge watched sooo many Adam vids my head is spinning. I want a vac only, self empty, quiet, bagless (?) to be used on vinyl floor. Only a few small carpets, price not an option. Wife getting impatient by my indecision... Thanx y'all for suggestions
I think either of these are your best choices. The problem you have is the bagless. The only real option is the Shark and I would not recommend those over either of these.
@@AdamsReviews appreciate, will use your link. Probably splurge for a mop only vac as well in the future. Big help watching you, I never knew sooooo many companies were competing. Bagged seems would be less dusty upon removal, but isn't a deal breaker. Hope you are compensated for your efforts.
@@thatguyoverthere8355 What did you end up buying?
@@shanew7361 I installed all new vinyl floor with only small mats in kitchen, no carpets. Narwal vac does great job getting around the edges of rooms where dusty, linty crap collects. Quieter than I expected. Mopper doesn't apply a whole lot of pressure, but does a good job. Wife still goes behind it with Swifter since nothing is ever clean in her eyes. If it lasts 3yrs it will be worth it to me, everything breaks down in the end.
For me the roborock wins, all this debris is not what I have in my house
Agree and I say that in the video.
I think the roborock is going to win 🏆
@BrodyTheNavibot what happened to your old account?
Me 2 I was cheering for the s7 😅🤣😂
Adams "not very Impartial Tech reviews" new name for your channel, how many times did you say your surprised, thought you might shed a tear a few times? You sound heart broken and not very impartial, let the results speak for themselves and stop giving opinions beforehand which make you seem very biased.
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