This was a long overdue and insightful conversation. I truly understood the extent of privilege for the first time during my masters abroad. My white classmates were driving the latest car models to school and I was walking from my hall of residence and pinching pennies because I was on a stipend. They sat around all day listening to music and studying at leisure while I frantically did my best to get through the course and return home so I can get a job to survive. Yet when I got back home everyone thought I was so lucky and so special for having achieved that milestone, yet..deep down it just made me feel that I needed to work so hard. I liked Joel's takes based on his readings (the master slave thing)...It puts things into perspective and has reminded me that I need to go back to reading more. And Pumla, thanks for reminding us clever people that we think our academic privilege is more worthy than pretty privilege. It's all privilege. On the opposite side of privilege I've been there but like Prima, I let it roll off my back. We can't afford to be emotional and entitled about things, we only have to do better. Thanks PPJ! Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
Amazing Amazing conversation. Joel said something I often tell people around me these days, when it comes to the trajectory of marriage and how men are getting shocked by the women’s need to actually see character in them beyond financial provision! Once that economic thing got settled for women, they start to demand for more which finds men who expected that their financial provision should be enough! - It begs the question… how to leada modern day woman today?!! I also concur with y’all when you talk about how pretty priviledge is not consequential for men, i feel that itd not long lastingly consequential for women either because in terms of long term commitments, work or personal, other factors come into play (character) and if they don’t weigh as much, even that existing priviledge could be useless or maintain use in short term non long lasting engagements. I love conversations like these and love listening to y’all ❤️ Keep it up PPJ 👌🏾
I love the chemistry between the 3 of you.. the roasting is on another level.. I learned so much and also laughed equally. it's true that you realize the level of privilege you have when you move to a new place or country. It's eye opening
Really enjoyed the conversation as always..was pleased to hear about privilege from neurotypical point of view as well..munnange racism is the worst to experience as there is no working your way out of your race like maybe social and economic... my favourite quote of privilege is that where your privilege meets someone else's oppression is your opportunity to make change.. we all have some privilege and can use it for good 😀
Merry Christmas people! Thank you for the episodes throughout the year. My best episode is the one of advise to younger self. Thank you Joel for that insight. I now understand the part of we cannot heal alone; because I just realized I get triggered when I get back into society by the things that I thought had healed. A better coping mechanism is to go through the situation rather than avoid it and the discomfort. Primah we forgive you for delaying this shoot😂😂...we listen but we do not judge. Our word for the day is pergola, that balcony away from the house; an arched structure in a garden consisting of a framework covered with climbing or trailing plants.😂😂 This year my highlight has been lessons, it has been a tough year, so tough for me on all levels. I am also in that category of; you can use your papers/degree/education/what you learned, etc to get that good job and I enjoy it no matter what. I definitely grew up in privilege because I got a good education, and never went without a meal, clothes, roof over our head! Until I interacted with the wealthy, I realized we did not have it all. But then, my grandma and dad also really made it easier because they taught us to be content; basics are all you need, life, food, clothes, shelter, clean water. Affording these things is all that I need; any other thing is a bonus. I get the pretty privilege thing; but now imagine men's privilege washes this away when it comes to like gender roles in the marriage, security when outside, catcalling, etc.. for women, whether you are pretty or not, you will always look over your shoulder in most spaces. I think to have the proper grounding and confidence to stay in our lanes and be okay there, we have to be really self-aware 85% and above. My first housing as a student was so horrible abroad because the handler assumed all black students were on welfare, string budgets, etc. Shocked when we had more and wanted better accommodation; the question was, what do your parents do for a living? Oil/Gas? hmmm. My dad is a businessman. I think schools, jobs and such spaces should be an equalizer Lastly, I really do not want that too much money that will not let me sleep. And my take home today; do not be ashamed of your privilege, use it to create a positive impact.
I looove this. Thank you for engaging…..while you’re clearly aware of your ‘privilege’, you were also prepared on how to handle it. Such an important lesson. Also I now real know what a pergola is:)
Today's quote: Joel: "I remember Nietzsche said you can only pity children and dogs. You can pity a child, you can pity a dog but to pity an adult is to reduce their experience to what has just happened to them."
1:11:03 when Joel spoke on how we speak. I recalled how I could never date a guy because of how he speaks. Guy is so bright and all, but his accent puts me off. I find it hard to date such a guy with a weird accent.
Thanks PPJ for a year of brilliant, thought provoking and extremely well balanced dialogue! Your episodes are utterly engrossing.
This was a long overdue and insightful conversation. I truly understood the extent of privilege for the first time during my masters abroad. My white classmates were driving the latest car models to school and I was walking from my hall of residence and pinching pennies because I was on a stipend. They sat around all day listening to music and studying at leisure while I frantically did my best to get through the course and return home so I can get a job to survive. Yet when I got back home everyone thought I was so lucky and so special for having achieved that milestone, yet..deep down it just made me feel that I needed to work so hard. I liked Joel's takes based on his readings (the master slave thing)...It puts things into perspective and has reminded me that I need to go back to reading more. And Pumla, thanks for reminding us clever people that we think our academic privilege is more worthy than pretty privilege. It's all privilege. On the opposite side of privilege I've been there but like Prima, I let it roll off my back. We can't afford to be emotional and entitled about things, we only have to do better. Thanks PPJ! Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
Thank you PPJ for sharing your knowledge and experiences with us. I have enjoyed every episode you released this year!
Amazing Amazing conversation. Joel said something I often tell people around me these days, when it comes to the trajectory of marriage and how men are getting shocked by the women’s need to actually see character in them beyond financial provision! Once that economic thing got settled for women, they start to demand for more which finds men who expected that their financial provision should be enough! - It begs the question… how to leada modern day woman today?!!
I also concur with y’all when you talk about how pretty priviledge is not consequential for men, i feel that itd not long lastingly consequential for women either because in terms of long term commitments, work or personal, other factors come into play (character) and if they don’t weigh as much, even that existing priviledge could be useless or maintain use in short term non long lasting engagements.
I love conversations like these and love listening to y’all ❤️ Keep it up PPJ 👌🏾
Happy holidays PPJ🎉we appreciate you selflessness in sharing your experiences. Lots of love from. + 254
yhoo... you guys are intelligent. your conversations are always eye opening. always looking forward to your episodes
I love the chemistry between the 3 of you.. the roasting is on another level.. I learned so much and also laughed equally. it's true that you realize the level of privilege you have when you move to a new place or country. It's eye opening
Meanwhile today Joel has schooled me, and I have loved it...
Thank you guys, it has been an amazing conversation..
I just got the notification 🥳🥳🥳I came running ,falling, standing up
Glad you're here!
Really enjoyed the conversation as always..was pleased to hear about privilege from neurotypical point of view as well..munnange racism is the worst to experience as there is no working your way out of your race like maybe social and economic... my favourite quote of privilege is that where your privilege meets someone else's oppression is your opportunity to make change.. we all have some privilege and can use it for good 😀
This was a very good discussion. I enjoyed it.
Merry Christmas people! Thank you for the episodes throughout the year. My best episode is the one of advise to younger self.
Thank you Joel for that insight. I now understand the part of we cannot heal alone; because I just realized I get triggered when I get back into society by the things that I thought had healed.
A better coping mechanism is to go through the situation rather than avoid it and the discomfort.
Primah we forgive you for delaying this shoot😂😂...we listen but we do not judge.
Our word for the day is pergola, that balcony away from the house; an arched structure in a garden consisting of a framework covered with climbing or trailing plants.😂😂
This year my highlight has been lessons, it has been a tough year, so tough for me on all levels.
I am also in that category of; you can use your papers/degree/education/what you learned, etc to get that good job and I enjoy it no matter what.
I definitely grew up in privilege because I got a good education, and never went without a meal, clothes, roof over our head! Until I interacted with the wealthy, I realized we did not have it all. But then, my grandma and dad also really made it easier because they taught us to be content; basics are all you need, life, food, clothes, shelter, clean water. Affording these things is all that I need; any other thing is a bonus.
I get the pretty privilege thing; but now imagine men's privilege washes this away when it comes to like gender roles in the marriage, security when outside, catcalling, etc.. for women, whether you are pretty or not, you will always look over your shoulder in most spaces.
I think to have the proper grounding and confidence to stay in our lanes and be okay there, we have to be really self-aware 85% and above.
My first housing as a student was so horrible abroad because the handler assumed all black students were on welfare, string budgets, etc. Shocked when we had more and wanted better accommodation; the question was, what do your parents do for a living? Oil/Gas? hmmm. My dad is a businessman. I think schools, jobs and such spaces should be an equalizer
Lastly, I really do not want that too much money that will not let me sleep.
And my take home today; do not be ashamed of your privilege, use it to create a positive impact.
I looove this. Thank you for engaging…..while you’re clearly aware of your ‘privilege’, you were also prepared on how to handle it. Such an important lesson. Also I now real know what a pergola is:)
Listening to this conversation and realising the privilege that is already in this conversation
Interesting insights on privilege...well done PPJ
This PPJ is power. 🎉
Eeeh! Pumla, that laugh has superceded Manuella's 😂
Thank you for this episode.
Damn Joe, smart and a cutie 😊. It's giving husband material
Hhahahaha it really is
Hahahahahahaha. He has too much clever 😂
Thought i was the only one who noticed 😅
Hooray 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 happy holidays 🎉
0:21Alan is light skinned we were told by Sharifa 😂 era we can't wait to see him. 😊
And he has a moustache 😅
Hahhaahahaha small small hints are coming out….
We need a sketch artist now...😅
I had missed these people
Normal privilege with Pumla's leg swing like a child killed me😂😂😂
Today's quote:
Joel: "I remember Nietzsche said you can only pity children and dogs. You can pity a child, you can pity a dog but to pity an adult is to reduce their experience to what has just happened to them."
Gazebo @Prima🤣🤣26:26
Hahahahaha banange I’m learning. Even pergola I learnt from here😊
🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
1:11:03 when Joel spoke on how we speak. I recalled how I could never date a guy because of how he speaks. Guy is so bright and all, but his accent puts me off. I find it hard to date such a guy with a weird accent.
@Pumla, the hair lady hook up again please. It is always giving
Pumla and Prima are lawyers in this show, Joel is the judge😀
😂😂
😆😆 53:34 now I'm scared of saying I have once experienced pretty privilege .
Allan, show ko your face just once a year😊
Last month banange, I was like I missed PPJ
This has been such a good insight on privilege. Well done 👍
yeeeeeeee
These episodes take long 😭
Prima meant Pergola!
I thank you wama
I thought she wanted to say gazebo 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@anonnona6433She also said gazebo.