I don't feel the RF has to defend themselves, their supporters are doing it beautifully for them with pointing out all the lies and inaccuracies in this horrid book.
Like him or loathe him Piers was correct like he was correct about the Cheltenham Festival being a disaster with covid outbreak. Should never have sacked him.
Piers Morgan is the world's worst journalist. We kicked him out of America because of his crude,rude behavior with guest on his show. I can't count the lawsuits against the networks he worked on.
It’s interesting that a clip from Netflix where Harry says that he sees a lot of Meghan in Archie, Meghan is not best pleased, but is very happy to discuss Lili’s blue blue blue eyes like Diana. So who is racist and concerned about Archie’s skin tone….and we NEVER see this kid.
@@Lizbeth7799seems the only person with an issue with the tone of skin could be one person who went from pale white to bronzed and tanned? Like what does this person even want or who are they in their own mind? Why do they seem to hate everyone around them??? Theirs something not right about all this IMO
Is it a coincidence that the 2 people that megan dislikes the most ends up in a book that nobody knows how they got there. Things that make you go huh.
My thought exactly Ruth, I doubt if any conversation ever took place at all, but Meghan saw the possibilities of further mischief against Harry's family. Meghan is so light skinned that she used to claim to be caucasian when applying for acting jobs so her babies were unlikely to be very dark and it is laughable that Charles or Catherine would be concerned about it.
Yeah, these commentators are going overboard. Everybody has moved on from this now. If they had named King Charles and the Princess of Wales right after the Oprah interview, that would've been something. But now, nobody apart from the media is trying to make this "royal racists" thing happen.
@@Carole1279 Social media tried to cancel the entire British Monarchy (🤣) after the Oprah interview. Nothing happened then, nothing will happen now. Cancel culture mostly works when it's convenient.
This should never have been brought into the public domain. It should have been dealt with within the family at or around thevtime. No doubt if any comments were made they would have been in the same context we all do when discussing what our offspring will look like. If Meghan had been upset she should have gone to the people concerned, given her point of view and the discussion would have put it to rest. Only a mischief maker would make it public.
There is no matter we all wondered, she is biracial, and he is white. That's what people do, no ill intentions or discrimination about it. I would have worried if they showed no care at all, I am black me and my partner who is on the lighter side we wondered who's colour our boy would take and he took his father's.
They are cowards and want questions this plastic barbie Ken Scobie was he physically present when KC3 and Princess Catherine said about the skin colours of the toxic griffters so called baby Archie and put allegations without proof or evidence and what is agenda to specifically target Princess Catherine what reasons and why he against princess Catherine what has she done to him for him to be so angry and racist towards her..
If Harry heard that something was said, why didn’t he face the person and ask what they meant? Instead he ran back to his wife saying ‘guess what was said’.
@@crowsarefab She got pregnant after the wedding and since THE CONCERNS were raised then, yet indeed, she was already his wife. If that's all you got about it, you probably need to get your priorities, facts straight. Good luck! 😉
This could all be resolved if the English publisher submitted the original pre-vetted manuscript. No doubt, those names were there. We all know these books are scrupulously reviewed by the original publishers legal team. And then everyone could shut up about this book.
@@Carole1279yeah and the king and yet they insisted on titles for their kids from what they would have us believe is a racist institution with a racist head and a racist future Queen mmmm....😂😂
As the product of a black Caribbean Dad & ghost White Scottish mum & the member of a large family which has people of many shades in-between black & white. I will say of course you can have a loving conversation about what a family members baby might look like, but NEVER EVER has any of my family members expressed “CONCERN” or have been “TROUBLED” about how dark a baby might be because all of my family are decent minded peoples & we aren’t a family which is literally based upon elitist ideology,breeding, bloodlines & birth rights into obscene amounts of stolen wealth. So of course such an archaic institution will have plenty racists among their ranks. I mean seriously…….Get in the REAL WORLD PEOPLE !!
People are not asking the most important question here which is how did Omid knew the names? Hmmm, only two people knew (if it was true). Harry and Meghan have got a lot to answer for.
Everybody in the press and media knew the names. My friend is a journalist and he told me those 2 names years ago. The press didn't publish the names because of the deal they have with Charles and William.
It was common knowledge that most UK journalists knew the identities of the senior royal members, but there was an agreement not to (RF involvement?) run the story. Lets not forget that the royal family live in a world surrounded by people. Courtiers; servants; secretaries. Nothing is a secret. And if you were to look back, it was the media, TV, tabloids that called it racism; not unconscious bias ( a phrase probably not headline worthy), and not those at the heart of the story. That I find interesting. No one is denying the comments were said.
@@nealeduncan5197 I have seen the names of Prince Philip and Princess Anne mentioned in a few newspapers as possible candidates too. Ultimately there is no evidence that a conversation even took place, except for Harry's saying so and he dithers with having to face the truth. Charles (who Harry is constantly pursuing for money and security) and Catherine (who Meghan really dislikes) appear to be too convenient as perpetrators.
No, absolutely no. Harry and Megan chose to broadcast supposed remarks in the public domain. That's it. They could have remarked on anything. It doesn't mean the Palace does not need to jump through hoops for anyone... particularly, the press
In 21.Century, we all are supposed to be more informed, educated and wiser!!! Unfortunately the petty nature that the Sussex’s have started the “ racism “ of innocent question of multicultural families is sad!!! My Tibetan uncle is married to a very blond German lady and I am married to an American of Indian descent, so all are relatives where wondering what kind of children we will have! Non of us had any problems with the such questions… only those who have racist mind will interpret such innocent questions as racism…
@@crowsarefab Her action was her action,nobody in that interview hollered racism,or called the Royals racist. The British press came out with bold black letters They called the Royals racist. Piers Morgan came out with the biggest lie of( 17 lies,and I have proof) . How can you get proof of a person's personal feelings?
Do you think that it would even be an interview if these people lining up their pockets out of this would stick to the facts? Every family goes through issues and they sorted it out at some point. They won't let this die because it's more about their own financial benefits. If you have to grasp at every stories you can't prove but put it out as facts just for the sake of trashing those you don't like, yeah, they have every right to react as they wish. 😅
Charles should just issue a statement saying, “As my late mother so wisely stated Recollections May Vary. Again, I repeat her wisdom…Recollections May Vary.”
It is interesting that Princess Kate insisted in adding that phrase, but according to the new book Princess Kate is just a shining object without voice or will… 😂 obviously that Shiny object has more influence than what the a American in law wish to have
The best response would be for the Palace to say we merely asked if we were going to be able stop little Archie from jumping up and down on his bed by placing velcrose on the ceiling
We don’t know if any conversations were ever had in reality, when it was mentioned on Oprah and Harry was asked about it, he looked very sheepish. If it was ever talked about at all in any way, I think one of the people in the conversation had to be him really, how else would he know?
The Crown on Netflix is popular in the US. We love your Royal Family. We also hope the Harry & Meghan Worldwide privacy tours last stop is at the Endgame because it has gone on long enough! We are tired of your exroyals!
I am not a Harry & Meghan hater. I just don’t like their behavior. I was a fan of Meghan early on. I joined Twitter to support her. I wanted to focus on her education and not on racism. I didn’t think believing in racism gets you anywhere. The people I tweeted with didn’t believe in gifted and talented. If you work hard you can achieve anything. Who taught them not to try because you will never win? Serena Williams didn’t believe that. I thought Meghan Markle & Oprah were teaching that how brown your skin was a concern to how well you would do in life. Oprah has done very well and Meghan was allowed to marry into the royal family. His father couldn’t marry the woman he wanted & we know how that turned out.
I heard the re release date for the Dutch book is for Dec 8…same day as Catherine’s special. Now tell me they didn’t set this all up. The Harkles & Omid are PATHETIC
Thank you, I was starting to feel I was the only one.... He was waiting to see who would triumph so he could be on the winning side, totally nauseating.....
Exactly. They chose a very small market, where recalling 5000 books wouldn't cost them the sky, while getting an untold amount of money's worth in free publishing, while ruining reputations over likely nothing. It's despicable.
I would say that this would be a normal comment in any mixed race family. It is in the conversation of what colour eyes,what colour hair etc. Meghan has been brought up in a very divisive atmosphere. She needs to prove to everyone that she loves her husband and children and put an end to this by apologising publicly and privately for her statements insinuating intentional racist comments. There was no need. A private conversation declaring any hurt she felt would surely have resulted in an apology and an end to it.
Really? She's the one who needs to apologize? You want to throw some whips and shackles in there as well, like the top gear guy suggested? Nonsense. I guess the husband who actually made this allegation is exempt though, right?
@@peterporkeresq.2817wheres her proof? And if the letter exists why isn't she suing scobie for leaking it like she did the media for leaking her letter to her Dad? Mmmm embarrassing 😂😂
During the O interview, MM said conversations about their unborn childs skin color. Harry said it was one conversation when they first started dating. 2 different stories right from the start.
Totally agree with you. Catherine would have never ever said such a thing. She has way too much class and tact for that. Only ignorant people can not see that...
That is squarely on the shoulders of Harry and his wife as they started or should I say she started this bs about race. Harry's wife should now prove it.
I understood Harry was there during the mention of what the colour of skin a future baby of theirs might have, why doesn’t he come forward and say. They weren’t even married at the time. Disgusting coward!
The creature from Compton and her besotted trophy prince spouse is at the beginning of all this turmoil and endless gossip. Empty vessels make most noise.
The Royal lawyers are on top of this and will expect answers from the Dutch on how this happened. I hope in the end that the Palace sues the publisher and Scobie as well as the Dutch translators sue Scobie for libel. This book crossed the line in so many ways. If I was Scobie, I'd expect lawsuits.
I doubt if this will be a court case because like all the other Sussex allegations, there is no evidence that a conversation even took place, let alone that anything racist was said. However they have made so many unsubstantiated accusations over the years against the RF that I think the time has come for them to be legally silenced so that any future allegations must be proven and names named, or they cannot be reported. If the Sussexes don't comply they should be arrested as others would be. We would not allow anyone else to disrespect and attack our monarchy so constantly over so many years and Harry must stop.
my father was mediterranean, my mother very pale northern european. when i was cooking the northerns and southerns had right barneys over my prospective skin colour (light mediterranean).
Gayle King did a special and said people were supporting Meghan Markle on twitter here in the US. I was for diversity and inclusion so joined twitter to support Meghan Markle. It was on twitter I was educated to a world I didn’t know existed. The fans of Meghan I tweeted with hated me from the beginning. They called me a troll published my info and blocked me. I finally deleted twitter. They were going after someone who wrote a book on Royal Pups. They called him racist and were writing bad reviews to his book. I thought it was wrong. They thought I was against Meghan. I had to defend myself. It was crazy and I felt sorry for those who didn’t support Meghan on twitter it was brutal. In the book Spare I actually felt William was defending me and pushed Harry against the dog dish because he refused to believe the bulling going on on the behalf of his wife!
Same effect on me though i only responded to the sugar comments on others tweets. They are the most vile group who work as a herd yet twitter does nothing about them nor Meghan or Harry yet are supposed to be wanting change in social media….what a laugh
This debate is already over. Leave it. Its like catching measles over and over again. Forget Scobie. He was a troublemaker par excellence and hes just trying to ignite a fire from a spark. I really thought wed put this behind us like Covid.
Correct but no one seems to care what he said at all. He also talked about what color his kids would be on Stephen Colbert. Perhaps Harry was the only one who was worried about his future children's skin color.
Jeez, The royal family should keep a dignified silence, & just ignore Scobie, & the book, Meghan & Harry would love the R.F. to take Scobie to court, they LOVE the drama, they hate the R.F., because Meghan is jealous of Kate, they want it to carry on for as long as possible, & Meghan want,s a 'he said she said' situation, but if K. C. is smart, he should follow the late Queen,s mantra of 'Never complain, Never explain', that,s the only way to deal with these narcissists, they HATE being ignored, & that,s exactly what he should do.
I really hope that our RF handles this with their usual grace. Why would you want to get into a slagging match with Markle, it is exactly what MM wants.??😊
I do think they should respond but the media should be told not to meddle and post any articles. The same applying to the Snarkles and Omid, mouths kept closed.
We keep defending Kate, but it doesn’t seem like she had such a close relationship for her to joke about skin color. They were strained from the beginning, so that cannot be a joke.
Catherine was not involved in any conversation because it never happened. M was not even pregnant as this so called conversation happened with Harry and one other person before he was married. Watch the Oprah thing and listen to what Harry says. He also told Tom Bradbury that his family was not a racist and that he and the wife never said that. They are both the racists not Catherine or Charles.
Chris Ship has Meghan Markle ever called you to see if your ok? Here in the US GMA had Omid Scobie on and at the end of the piece the interviewer said Omid Scobie said Meghan Markle had called him once to see if he was ok.
That is a friend thing to do right. Some one who knows you quite well would have your phone number. He's lying about not getting information from Harry's wife.
Please be accurate it was before BEFORE they even married and if as Hand M say it was with Harry present he was the one who decided to mention it to Megan!!!
The statement should say, We are so concerned that unstable people are unable to accurately recall conversations and due to heavy drug use, make up conversations that never happened. Clearly drugs and mental illness can totally lead your mind into false areas. For this reason, we have always supported mental health treatments and will continue to do that.
M wasn’t pregnant when this discussion took place, they weren’t even married. H is the only one that could take this to M and we all know he likes to elaborate. I bet when Doria was pregnant with M, it was discussed who she would follow, white or black.
The Ripple of Hope Award and then turned around and told Tom Bradbury his family were not a racist family. Harry should give that award back and apologise for lying.
Harry and his partner have committed themselves to making as much trouble for the RF as possible. They are nonentities who, unfortunately, have connections to the RF.
Dear God, this is really a load of nonsense the British public have to choose between heating their homes or eating and cooking and buying food. Let's talk about public services workers such as nurses and junior doctors, and teachers have to go to food banks. Why do you all need to continue to give all this air time? Please do as the Buckingam Place press office does say nothing. English children and their families are living in poverty while the very wealthy live in luxury with more than one house and pay nearly no tax. Let's talk about raw sewage being allowed to flow into rivers and waterways and seas by the very wealthy owners who dont repair the infrastructure to stop this from happening. Have real conversations about important things that matter to the British people. Such as the poor British pensioners who worked hard to restore Britain after World War 2. The National Healthcare Service and Public School left to fall apart by the corupt conservative Brexit Government for over 14 years. The Royal Family soap opera is truly exhausting Omid Scobie wrote this book to make money from old news and stories. You never gave the Byline Times article this much airtime.
If the RF don't step up and defend Princess Catherine we will never forgive them! They don't deserve her, William has to sue them! Thank goodness for Piers Morgan, the only journalist with the guts to come out and tell the truth about the evil wife in Monteshitshow! Why is no-one looking at her background, her mother Dorito's background and her shady past?
I reckon the names were in there in the beginning. Then lawyers or editors said take them out and some how the original got sent to the Dutch publishers. Either way, it's good it's all out in the open now. it's quite common for those discussions when pregnant, will the baby look like this or that BUT! if Megan was feeling attacked at the time (which she said she was) she could've been triggered especially as she grew up seeing her Mum racially abused. The Royal Family have fumbled this whole thing. They should've just called up Harry and Megan, apologised if they caused offence and sorted it out. Now look? it's just a big mess. If Charles wants to set a Royal example to this nation he should make peace and reconcile his family THAT would be setting a Royal example as the first family, would stop all the gossip and would 100% be the actions of a true King. He should Get his son's in a room first with a mediator, sort that out then bring in Megan etc and bring the family together. That is the only way to sort it out. All this hate and mud slinging is exhausting and is really making them look like an episode of Jeremy Kyle rather than a Royal family
The royal family aren't mudslinging. This is all Harry's wife doing. Harry said one conversation before they were married. He has also talked about genetics and what color the children would be with Stephen Colbert. This was not about Archie as she was not pregnant at the time
This is not the episode I want to grumble about but will have to do, your program which is on twitter has Tessa Dunlop and another woman who’s name I do not know she is a lady of colour and she said the RF has to talk about this and lay it to rest about being racist, the truth is they have done it already they said it when this first aired on Oprah what does she want from them does she want them all to open their veins and look inside to see if it says I am not a racist. It’s almost like when is something enough for some people how many times do they have to keep proving it from what she said today obviously NEVER.
The Royal family is caught between a rock and a hard place. They either said it or they didn't. If they did, not good. If they didn't, they should set the record straight.
Did, didn’t, no big deal. This is irrelevant in a world with actual problems. Plus this is assuming we think a skin color is a problem. It’s not. Eye, hair, skin, height, weight, nose shape, ears,etc, no moral value.
Generally, it seems really genes issues. Prince Harry remembered his mother where Megan was not there. I don't know why would they care of Harry's family genes? He is the 5th of the royal family . *I am not fully aware of royal family issues and rules. 😊
This came to this situation seemed by carefully planned plot. Kate is the favorite royal in poll and Charles is the King, so ruin their reputations to match Scobie’s fantasy of endgame. It is also likely that Kate’s elegance, beauty, royal status are the Sussex camp envied most. So the camp extended the allegation from 1 person to two, adding Kate’s name to it. The royal family must be so regretted allowing their family member involved with such evil minded individual.
I agree. Catherine's popularity and positive pr especially this year is the reason why her name was added when there was only one person initially. This conversation was with Harry only before they were married. So it was not about Archie because Harry's wife was not pregnant. This is treachery and gaslighting the public and needs to stop. Does Harry realise these horrendous lies cause more death threats to the Royal Family. Your wife cried about being scared because of death threats yet the Royal family did not throw lies in her direction. It's the lies you both spew that cause your Sussex squad to threaten your niece and nephews and Catherine who you once said was the sister you never had. If something terrible happened to William and his family because of your wifes blatant lying how would you feel Harry. Or is this your agenda to get you closer to the throne?
Chris Harry actually did not say it was about Archie the conversation was before she was pregnant. Not the same as Meghan said. Lets keep that fact forefront in reporting.
We need to first question why the final draft was tampered with ? The ethics of book writing are at stake. Not who said what. Nobody cares anymore. We need to establish how and why the final draft was not printed, and an earlier draft that was clearly "illegal" was printed. It is impossible to make a translation error with names. Who added the names ? The King might be curious to get to the bottom of that. Imagine if book texts can be modified and printed, and no one questions it. The draft with the names in it was illegal. End of story. This is not about Royal racism. It'[s about the legal ethics of publishing. The 2 Royals named may be completely innocent. Who knows ?
We all know the names came from M&H so Charles should not give it any oxygen by taking legal action. They'd be loving all the attention. Charles should keep them entirely away from the RF and chat about the weather if they call.
The king is the head of all justice in the UK, he cannot use the courts system for his own benefit. The trial would be seen as unfair and biased towards the king which it would be.
Charlie can solved the problem. He was the one who was corresponding with Meghan about the subject. Charlie can and should release the letters. Cant he ?????
I want to know who was listening at this 'so callled' conversation to know that this statement about an unborn baby was even made. Parents and families always wonder 'who will the new baby look like, what color hair etc.' .....my grandmother had 10 children and it was always a common question with each pregnancy. Why is this such a "do not discuss" topic now? Ridiculous!!
Because he didn’t write this book. Jealousy’s and someone who was disloyal to Royals Family. But public, people the best judges we experience who is who. Royal family was powerful and popular and will be more than ever. Loyalty to country, trust, motivation make them successful. King is more popular. Gorgeous Prince William and his Beautiful Princess Catherine are both very supportive, loyal, trustworthy loving couples. ❤️❤️
Harry and Megan will come out disassociating themselves... Omid then will look at his options. Curiouser and curiouser. Endgame is an anagram of megan'ed
I don't feel the RF has to defend themselves, their supporters are doing it beautifully for them with pointing out all the lies and inaccuracies in this horrid book.
Leaked names by Design.
Cruel by Intention.
Australia
100% agree
Of course. But Scabies will never, ever admit it. He will lie until Kingdom Come.
hello fellow Aussie - you are 100% correct...they are deceptive, duplicitous and downright dangerous to the PPOW
Looks like it.....
Is it? The Author has insisted none of his English versions have the names.
Like him or loathe him Piers was correct like he was correct about the Cheltenham Festival being a disaster with covid outbreak. Should never have sacked him.
Piers Morgan is the world's worst journalist. We kicked him out of America because of his crude,rude behavior with guest on his show. I can't count the lawsuits against the networks he worked on.
@@CharlesBaucom-fn4iu I disagree. He doesn't let people get away with skirting the answers and I wish more journalists were like that.
It’s interesting that a clip from Netflix where Harry says that he sees a lot of Meghan in Archie, Meghan is not best pleased, but is very happy to discuss Lili’s blue blue blue eyes like Diana. So who is racist and concerned about Archie’s skin tone….and we NEVER see this kid.
She named her daughter like her white mother in law, but no one name in honour to her mother of colour!…
What about Doria Diana!… Doria Lilibet,….
@@Lizbeth7799seems the only person with an issue with the tone of skin could be one person who went from pale white to bronzed and tanned? Like what does this person even want or who are they in their own mind? Why do they seem to hate everyone around them??? Theirs something not right about all this IMO
The kids’ skin color is transparent as are the kids’ existence in general
How long ago was it when they accepted an award for exposing the racism in the Royal Family ? Beginning of this year ?
The other problem is, THERE ARE NO CHILDREN.
Is it a coincidence that the 2 people that megan dislikes the most ends up in a book that nobody knows how they got there. Things that make you go huh.
My thought exactly Ruth, I doubt if any conversation ever took place at all, but Meghan saw the possibilities of further mischief against Harry's family. Meghan is so light skinned that she used to claim to be caucasian when applying for acting jobs so her babies were unlikely to be very dark and it is laughable that Charles or Catherine would be concerned about it.
Never complain, never explain has worked well for years, stick to it.
I agree 100%. Reacting wil give them the publicity they crave.
I agree too
Yes ! That was before cancel culture
Yeah, these commentators are going overboard. Everybody has moved on from this now. If they had named King Charles and the Princess of Wales right after the Oprah interview, that would've been something. But now, nobody apart from the media is trying to make this "royal racists" thing happen.
@@Carole1279 Social media tried to cancel the entire British Monarchy (🤣) after the Oprah interview. Nothing happened then, nothing will happen now. Cancel culture mostly works when it's convenient.
This should never have been brought into the public domain. It should have been dealt with within the family at or around thevtime. No doubt if any comments were made they would have been in the same context we all do when discussing what our offspring will look like.
If Meghan had been upset she should have gone to the people concerned, given her point of view and the discussion would have put it to rest.
Only a mischief maker would make it public.
No it good to see what Royals are really are. 👍
Well only racists have concerns about ones skin color
You're upset that the truth came out!
@tysonomolo8706 I am not upset. Just commenting on a piece of news.
Yes but Meghan is unhinged.
I love that these news people are having a calm sane conversation about the matter. Not bad mouthing anyone.
There is no matter we all wondered, she is biracial, and he is white. That's what people do, no ill intentions or discrimination about it. I would have worried if they showed no care at all, I am black me and my partner who is on the lighter side we wondered who's colour our boy would take and he took his father's.
@blingfire1850 No need. They have no credibility.
@blingfire1850 I am with Sharon. Everyone with a brain knows what is going on. Edit: We need a Jealousy Emoticon!
@@sharonsparks900you’re correct the UK press has no credibility. Just liars and drifters making money off the fake stories they post
They are cowards and want questions this plastic barbie Ken Scobie was he physically present when KC3 and Princess Catherine said about the skin colours of the toxic griffters so called baby Archie and put allegations without proof or evidence and what is agenda to specifically target Princess Catherine what reasons and why he against princess Catherine what has she done to him for him to be so angry and racist towards her..
They left for privacy so stop giving them air time
Its not out of love for them. They are making lots of money out of trashing them. That has always be the purpose 😊
What privacy?. persons of your kind are always looking for any negative news about them. And you love that!!
If Harry heard that something was said, why didn’t he face the person and ask what they meant? Instead he ran back to his wife saying ‘guess what was said’.
Except she wasn't even his wife at the time.
Et alors vous racontez pas à votre propre femme se qui se passe
@@crowsarefabelle était enceinte faudrait peut-être suivre correctement avant de critiquer le troll
@@crowsarefab
She got pregnant after the wedding and since THE CONCERNS were raised then, yet indeed, she was already his wife. If that's all you got about it, you probably need to get your priorities, facts straight. Good luck! 😉
God bless Trump like Morgan been right and he said Harry is hen Pecked 😳🤣😂🤗
This could all be resolved if the English publisher submitted the original pre-vetted manuscript. No doubt, those names were there. We all know these books are scrupulously reviewed by the original publishers legal team. And then everyone could shut up about this book.
The translator said she will sue.
@@carolinejanssen9034 so kate is the racist royal?
@@carolinejanssen9034- As she should.
@@Carole1279yeah and the king and yet they insisted on titles for their kids from what they would have us believe is a racist institution with a racist head and a racist future Queen mmmm....😂😂
Harry never said anything about Archie’s skin colour. He said there was ONE conversation BEFORE they were even married.
About what he would look like..... Which is totally normal and every couple and family wonders about that for a new baby
Yep
M.M. said this 😅
As the product of a black Caribbean Dad & ghost White Scottish mum & the member of a large family which has people of many shades in-between black & white. I will say of course you can have a loving conversation about what a family members baby might look like, but NEVER EVER has any of my family members expressed “CONCERN” or have been “TROUBLED” about how dark a baby might be because all of my family are decent minded peoples & we aren’t a family which is literally based upon elitist ideology,breeding,
bloodlines & birth rights into obscene amounts of stolen wealth. So of course such an archaic institution will have plenty racists among their ranks.
I mean seriously…….Get in the REAL WORLD PEOPLE !!
@@socillizt4lifeit’s good to know an impartial observer like you was there to know it happened
People are not asking the most important question here which is how did Omid knew the names? Hmmm, only two people knew (if it was true). Harry and Meghan have got a lot to answer for.
Everybody in the press and media knew the names. My friend is a journalist and he told me those 2 names years ago. The press didn't publish the names because of the deal they have with Charles and William.
It was common knowledge that most UK journalists knew the identities of the senior royal members, but there was an agreement not to (RF involvement?) run the story. Lets not forget that the royal family live in a world surrounded by people. Courtiers; servants; secretaries. Nothing is a secret. And if you were to look back, it was the media, TV, tabloids that called it racism; not unconscious bias ( a phrase probably not headline worthy), and not those at the heart of the story. That I find interesting. No one is denying the comments were said.
@@nealeduncan5197did he tell you the context?
@@nealeduncan5197 I have seen the names of Prince Philip and Princess Anne mentioned in a few newspapers as possible candidates too. Ultimately there is no evidence that a conversation even took place, except for Harry's saying so and he dithers with having to face the truth. Charles (who Harry is constantly pursuing for money and security) and Catherine (who Meghan really dislikes) appear to be too convenient as perpetrators.
No, absolutely no. Harry and Megan chose to broadcast supposed remarks in the public domain. That's it. They could have remarked on anything. It doesn't mean the Palace does not need to jump through hoops for anyone... particularly, the press
How can they respond? That would be recognising that the puppet who wrote the book and the puppet and puppeteer from Montecito are worth something.
In 21.Century, we all are supposed to be more informed, educated and wiser!!! Unfortunately the petty nature that the Sussex’s have started the “ racism “ of innocent question of multicultural families is sad!!! My Tibetan uncle is married to a very blond German lady and I am married to an American of Indian descent, so all are relatives where wondering what kind of children we will have!
Non of us had any problems with the such questions… only those who have racist mind will interpret such innocent questions as racism…
I agree Harry's wife had an agenda and ran with it and no one stopped her. By the way she was not pregnant when this one conversation happened.
Why is ever talking about his. Every one knows it’s all full of lies 😊
Lie upon lie upon lie! Pure Evil!
No they should not say one word. Thats exactly what Henry and Megnut want.
Well they said plenty
Yes science is golden pity harry and Meghan haven't learnt that .
If only Oprah hadn't have catapulted this narrative. I always respected Oprah over the years, until now.
Don't blame Oprah, it's you silly people who hollered Racism.That interview only talked about the incident without mentioning any names.
@@CharlesBaucom-fn4iu What about her OTT reaction to Maggot's accusation. 'Whaaaaaaat?'
Et alors y’a na marre de toujours protéger cette famille quoiqu’il fasse ils ont tous racistes
@@crowsarefab Her action was her action,nobody in that interview hollered racism,or called the Royals racist. The British press came out with bold black letters They called the Royals racist. Piers Morgan came out with the biggest lie of( 17 lies,and I have proof) . How can you get proof of a person's personal feelings?
Do you think that it would even be an interview if these people lining up their pockets out of this would stick to the facts? Every family goes through issues and they sorted it out at some point. They won't let this die because it's more about their own financial benefits. If you have to grasp at every stories you can't prove but put it out as facts just for the sake of trashing those you don't like, yeah, they have every right to react as they wish. 😅
How about we all mind our own business. The King and HRH Catherine are NOT racist, MOVE ON
Amen
Charles should just issue a statement saying, “As my late mother so wisely stated Recollections May Vary. Again, I repeat her wisdom…Recollections May Vary.”
Absolutely agree 100%
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It is interesting that Princess Kate insisted in adding that phrase, but according to the new book Princess Kate is just a shining object without voice or will… 😂 obviously that Shiny object has more influence than what the a American in law wish to have
@@Lizbeth7799 because she knew she was the one
The best response would be for the Palace to say we merely asked if we were going to be able stop little Archie from jumping up and down on his bed by placing velcrose on the ceiling
We don’t know if any conversations were ever had in reality, when it was mentioned on Oprah and Harry was asked about it, he looked very sheepish. If it was ever talked about at all in any way, I think one of the people in the conversation had to be him really, how else would he know?
The Crown on Netflix is popular in the US. We love your Royal Family. We also hope the Harry & Meghan Worldwide privacy tours last stop is at the Endgame because it has gone on long enough! We are tired of your exroyals!
This. 🎯
🙌 Amen 🇺🇸
Opps love harry and Meghan haters. Funny u guys keep saying u r all tired of them BUT keep talking about them. 😅😅😅😅😅🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
I am not a Harry & Meghan hater. I just don’t like their behavior. I was a fan of Meghan early on. I joined Twitter to support her. I wanted to focus on her education and not on racism. I didn’t think believing in racism gets you anywhere. The people I tweeted with didn’t believe in gifted and talented. If you work hard you can achieve anything. Who taught them not to try because you will never win? Serena Williams didn’t believe that. I thought Meghan Markle & Oprah were teaching that how brown your skin was a concern to how well you would do in life. Oprah has done very well and Meghan was allowed to marry into the royal family. His father couldn’t marry the woman he wanted & we know how that turned out.
The Crown is part fiction , it is a drama after all!
I wouldn’t trust Chris Ship as far as I could throw him Chris Ship and Omid Scabie are both Sussex Squadies
I heard the re release date for the Dutch book is for Dec 8…same day as Catherine’s special. Now tell me they didn’t set this all up. The Harkles & Omid are PATHETIC
Now Princess of Wales's special is going to be SPECTACULAR!!!!!
I agree. If Markle was not jealous of Catherine there would be no need to be so petty and predictable.
Scobi called endgame for a reason end of his career
I have always felt Chris Ship is a one foot in each camp person, l am not living in GB now but in Australia, he is starting to back track shabbily
I agree. I don't trust him.
Yes,kissing both cheeks mate!😂
He always struck me as an anti monarchist. I don’t care for him.
Thank you, I was starting to feel I was the only one....
He was waiting to see who would triumph so he could be on the winning side, totally nauseating.....
Always thought that about him
Good for the Royals. Silence is golden. We are all busy fighting it out for them!
It's a marketing strategy for the book to be talked about and sell - all at the expense of the royal family.
Exactly. They chose a very small market, where recalling 5000 books wouldn't cost them the sky, while getting an untold amount of money's worth in free publishing, while ruining reputations over likely nothing. It's despicable.
Yes, by taking them off the website, removing their titles and binning their contact information
That would be a start
I would say that this would be a normal comment in any mixed race family. It is in the conversation of what colour eyes,what colour hair etc. Meghan has been brought up in a very divisive atmosphere. She needs to prove to everyone that she loves her husband and children and put an end to this by apologising publicly and privately for her statements insinuating intentional racist comments. There was no need. A private conversation declaring any hurt she felt would surely have resulted in an apology and an end to it.
Really? She's the one who needs to apologize? You want to throw some whips and shackles in there as well, like the top gear guy suggested? Nonsense. I guess the husband who actually made this allegation is exempt though, right?
Not true
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Apologize to her? Did you bump your head ?
@@peterporkeresq.2817wheres her proof? And if the letter exists why isn't she suing scobie for leaking it like she did the media for leaking her letter to her Dad? Mmmm embarrassing 😂😂
Haz needs to support his family and deny these new alleged rac_ist claims..
Pigs might fly
Like they supported Harry by leaking stories about him and his wife? Get real! 🙄
I agree his wife is out of control
No they should not respond on these idiotic statements from Meghan nor Omid.
Harry said it was ONE person and it was said BEFORE his engagement
It’s far harder to not say anything than to acknowledge the slur.
During the O interview, MM said conversations about their unborn childs skin color.
Harry said it was one conversation when they first started dating.
2 different stories right from the start.
Why is this not front page news.
Where is the transcript can someone have it
Princess Catherine would never make a comment about the babies coloring, it's just not her nature.
Do you know her? 😂
Really? you know her that well?.
And you know her do you ?
"Just not her nature" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, she literally lifted up her skirt at a state event in order to grab headlines....trust me, she would.
Totally agree with you. Catherine would have never ever said such a thing. She has way too much class and tact for that. Only ignorant people can not see that...
Chris Ship is in the Markles camp...he's as irrelevant as they are.
Harry already cleared it up. No more discussion. Scobie is just keeping this alive. He is right Harry has already disclaimed it.
Then what is Scobie’s game?
@@TTTTTT-ix6tuMeghan is obviously in Scobie’s ear! Gormless Harry probably doesn’t know what they’re up to! 🤦🙄
Harry's wife is keeping this alive and happily added a name Catherine who she is hatefully jealous of.
That's trying to shut the real issue down. The actions should be called out instead of how, when, what, who puts it out. Pretty simple 😊
This basic common sense is lost on so many royalists, unfortunately.
Exactly ! Apologize and move on ! But kate is a saint apparently
She certainly is a lovely lady she never said anything remotely racist if anything don't believe a word
@@AnneJamieson-cq9tw
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That is squarely on the shoulders of Harry and his wife as they started or should I say she started this bs about race. Harry's wife should now prove it.
I understood Harry was there during the mention of what the colour of skin a future baby of theirs might have, why doesn’t he come forward and say. They weren’t even married at the time. Disgusting coward!
Agree
The creature from Compton and her besotted trophy prince spouse is at the beginning of all this turmoil and endless gossip. Empty vessels make most noise.
Don’t believe they would of especially Kate
The Royal lawyers are on top of this and will expect answers from the Dutch on how this happened. I hope in the end that the Palace sues the publisher and Scobie as well as the Dutch translators sue Scobie for libel. This book crossed the line in so many ways. If I was Scobie, I'd expect lawsuits.
I doubt if this will be a court case because like all the other Sussex allegations, there is no evidence that a conversation even took place, let alone that anything racist was said. However they have made so many unsubstantiated accusations over the years against the RF that I think the time has come for them to be legally silenced so that any future allegations must be proven and names named, or they cannot be reported. If the Sussexes don't comply they should be arrested as others would be. We would not allow anyone else to disrespect and attack our monarchy so constantly over so many years and Harry must stop.
I have one word - Kenya
That should explain the royals and their reporters behavior around people of color.
my father was mediterranean, my mother very pale northern european. when i was cooking the northerns and southerns had right barneys over my prospective skin colour (light mediterranean).
O Chris grow a pair!
I really hope that the royal family don't say anything in public but do something in private these Harkles and co need consequences.
Gayle King did a special and said people were supporting Meghan Markle on twitter here in the US. I was for diversity and inclusion so joined twitter to support Meghan Markle. It was on twitter I was educated to a world I didn’t know existed. The fans of Meghan I tweeted with hated me from the beginning. They called me a troll published my info and blocked me. I finally deleted twitter. They were going after someone who wrote a book on Royal Pups. They called him racist and were writing bad reviews to his book. I thought it was wrong. They thought I was against Meghan. I had to defend myself. It was crazy and I felt sorry for those who didn’t support Meghan on twitter it was brutal. In the book Spare I actually felt William was defending me and pushed Harry against the dog dish because he refused to believe the bulling going on on the behalf of his wife!
those are meghains paid for bots, out of countries with english as a second language
Same effect on me though i only responded to the sugar comments on others tweets. They are the most vile group who work as a herd yet twitter does nothing about them nor Meghan or Harry yet are supposed to be wanting change in social media….what a laugh
The words, sister-in-law and brother-in-law are truly hard to swallow
This debate is already over. Leave it. Its like catching measles over and over again. Forget Scobie. He was a troublemaker par excellence and hes just trying to ignite a fire from a spark. I really thought wed put this behind us like Covid.
Harry originally said it was on person. And, that was before he was even married.
Correct but no one seems to care what he said at all. He also talked about what color his kids would be on Stephen Colbert. Perhaps Harry was the only one who was worried about his future children's skin color.
Jeez, The royal family should keep a dignified silence, & just ignore Scobie, & the book, Meghan & Harry would love the R.F. to take Scobie to court, they LOVE the drama, they hate the R.F., because Meghan is jealous of Kate, they want it to carry on for as long as possible, & Meghan want,s a 'he said she said' situation, but if K. C. is smart, he should follow the late Queen,s mantra of 'Never complain, Never explain', that,s the only way to deal with these narcissists, they HATE being ignored, & that,s exactly what he should do.
I really hope that our RF handles this with their usual grace. Why would you want to get into a slagging match with Markle, it is exactly what MM wants.??😊
Really? Princess Meghan is not thinking about those, toxic, irrelevant creatures!!
They handle it by doing nothing ever. Take them off royal website to stop them monetising the rf.
so did millions of UK public at the time without malice or thoughts of racism. It is normal human reaction to a mixed relationship.
I do think they should respond but the media should be told not to meddle and post any articles. The same applying to the Snarkles and Omid, mouths kept closed.
We keep defending Kate, but it doesn’t seem like she had such a close relationship for her to joke about skin color. They were strained from the beginning, so that cannot be a joke.
Catherine was not involved in any conversation because it never happened. M was not even pregnant as this so called conversation happened with Harry and one other person before he was married. Watch the Oprah thing and listen to what Harry says. He also told Tom Bradbury that his family was not a racist and that he and the wife never said that. They are both the racists not Catherine or Charles.
Chris Ship has Meghan Markle ever called you to see if your ok? Here in the US GMA had Omid Scobie on and at the end of the piece the interviewer said Omid Scobie said Meghan Markle had called him once to see if he was ok.
That is a friend thing to do right. Some one who knows you quite well would have your phone number. He's lying about not getting information from Harry's wife.
Please be accurate it was before BEFORE they even married and if as Hand M say it was with Harry present he was the one who decided to mention it to Megan!!!
The statement should say, We are so concerned that unstable people are unable to accurately recall conversations and due to heavy drug use, make up conversations that never happened. Clearly drugs and mental illness can totally lead your mind into false areas. For this reason, we have always supported mental health treatments and will continue to do that.
M wasn’t pregnant when this discussion took place, they weren’t even married. H is the only one that could take this to M and we all know he likes to elaborate. I bet when Doria was pregnant with M, it was discussed who she would follow, white or black.
Of course but that doesn't trash important people in the Royal Family.
The media knew the names.about the 'concerns', they all did.!!! 4:02
harry also attended and accepted an award for racism in the royal family
The Ripple of Hope Award and then turned around and told Tom Bradbury his family were not a racist family. Harry should give that award back and apologise for lying.
Harry and his partner have committed themselves to making as much trouble for the RF as possible.
They are nonentities who, unfortunately, have connections to the RF.
Dear God, this is really a load of nonsense the British public have to choose between heating their homes or eating and cooking and buying food. Let's talk about public services workers such as nurses and junior doctors, and teachers have to go to food banks. Why do you all need to continue to give all this air time? Please do as the Buckingam Place press office does say nothing.
English children and their families are living in poverty while the very wealthy live in luxury with more than one house and pay nearly no tax.
Let's talk about raw sewage being allowed to flow into rivers and waterways and seas by the very wealthy owners who dont repair the infrastructure to stop this from happening. Have real conversations about important things that matter to the British people.
Such as the poor British pensioners who worked hard to restore Britain after World War 2. The National Healthcare Service and Public School left to fall apart by the corupt conservative Brexit Government for over 14 years.
The Royal Family soap opera is truly exhausting Omid Scobie wrote this book to make money from old news and stories.
You never gave the Byline Times article this much airtime.
Carolyn the best piece of commentary I've read through this entire dumpster fire of a non-story.
If the RF don't step up and defend Princess Catherine we will never forgive them! They don't deserve her, William has to sue them! Thank goodness for Piers Morgan, the only journalist with the guts to come out and tell the truth about the evil wife in Monteshitshow! Why is no-one looking at her background, her mother Dorito's background and her shady past?
What?????????😅
Yes Why Aren't They?
Harry said it was before he married Meghan only Meghan said it was when she was pregnant
These two are still lying!!!!
Scobie needs to be sued by someone.
I reckon the names were in there in the beginning. Then lawyers or editors said take them out and some how the original got sent to the Dutch publishers. Either way, it's good it's all out in the open now. it's quite common for those discussions when pregnant, will the baby look like this or that BUT! if Megan was feeling attacked at the time (which she said she was) she could've been triggered especially as she grew up seeing her Mum racially abused. The Royal Family have fumbled this whole thing. They should've just called up Harry and Megan, apologised if they caused offence and sorted it out. Now look? it's just a big mess. If Charles wants to set a Royal example to this nation he should make peace and reconcile his family THAT would be setting a Royal example as the first family, would stop all the gossip and would 100% be the actions of a true King. He should Get his son's in a room first with a mediator, sort that out then bring in Megan etc and bring the family together. That is the only way to sort it out. All this hate and mud slinging is exhausting and is really making them look like an episode of Jeremy Kyle rather than a Royal family
The royal family aren't mudslinging. This is all Harry's wife doing. Harry said one conversation before they were married. He has also talked about genetics and what color the children would be with Stephen Colbert. This was not about Archie as she was not pregnant at the time
This is not the episode I want to grumble about but will have to do, your program which is on twitter has Tessa Dunlop and another woman who’s name I do not know she is a lady of colour and she said the RF has to talk about this and lay it to rest about being racist, the truth is they have done it already they said it when this first aired on Oprah what does she want from them does she want them all to open their veins and look inside to see if it says I am not a racist. It’s almost like when is something enough for some people how many times do they have to keep proving it from what she said today obviously NEVER.
The Royal family is caught between a rock and a hard place. They either said it or they didn't. If they did, not good. If they didn't, they should set the record straight.
Did, didn’t, no big deal. This is irrelevant in a world with actual problems. Plus this is assuming we think a skin color is a problem. It’s not. Eye, hair, skin, height, weight, nose shape, ears,etc, no moral value.
When MENTAL MEGHAN MOM AND DAD WERE EXPECTING HER, they were WONDERING WHAT HER SKIN COLOR WOULD BE. DOES THAT MAKE THEM RACIST!
Sa dépend comme sa été dit et présentaient
Harry said it was before that got married meg says they were talking about Archie?
Why should the Rf respond? These accusations are so beneath their contempt.
Don’t be ridiculous! Consider the source. Everyone is exhausted by all the nonsense. Move on.
"YES SURELY IT'S ( TIME). YEAH LET'S ALL 👂 HEAR THE ( TRUTH).🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Generally, it seems really genes issues. Prince Harry remembered his mother where Megan was not there. I don't know why would they care of Harry's family genes? He is the 5th of the royal family .
*I am not fully aware of royal family issues and rules. 😊
At the very least, STRIPPED ALL titles from Harry and family.
ITV and Chris Ship love Harry and Meghan.
This came to this situation seemed by carefully planned plot. Kate is the favorite royal in poll and Charles is the King, so ruin their reputations to match Scobie’s fantasy of endgame. It is also likely that Kate’s elegance, beauty, royal status are the Sussex camp envied most. So the camp extended the allegation from 1 person to two, adding Kate’s name to it. The royal family must be so regretted allowing their family member involved with such evil minded individual.
I agree. Catherine's popularity and positive pr especially this year is the reason why her name was added when there was only one person initially. This conversation was with Harry only before they were married. So it was not about Archie because Harry's wife was not pregnant. This is treachery and gaslighting the public and needs to stop. Does Harry realise these horrendous lies cause more death threats to the Royal Family. Your wife cried about being scared because of death threats yet the Royal family did not throw lies in her direction. It's the lies you both spew that cause your Sussex squad to threaten your niece and nephews and Catherine who you once said was the sister you never had. If something terrible happened to William and his family because of your wifes blatant lying how would you feel Harry. Or is this your agenda to get you closer to the throne?
Chris Harry actually did not say it was about Archie the conversation was before she was pregnant. Not the same as Meghan said. Lets keep that fact forefront in reporting.
We need to first question why the final draft was tampered with ? The ethics of book writing are at stake. Not who said what. Nobody cares anymore. We need to establish how and why the final draft was not printed, and an earlier draft that was clearly "illegal" was printed. It is impossible to make a translation error with names. Who added the names ? The King might be curious to get to the bottom of that. Imagine if book texts can be modified and printed, and no one questions it. The draft with the names in it was illegal. End of story. This is not about Royal racism. It'[s about the legal ethics of publishing. The 2 Royals named may be completely innocent. Who knows ?
No. It’s beneath their dignity to respond to it and they must not. Neither the King nor the Princess of Wales should respond.
We all know the names came from M&H so Charles should not give it any oxygen by taking legal action. They'd be loving all the attention. Charles should keep them entirely away from the RF and chat about the weather if they call.
Is there anyone with the means to sue the author as well as Meg and Harry, for they must have provided all the info in the book?
I. M. O. Yes They Did
Never mind about how the names got there. What's the Royal family going to do about their racism.
What racism ?? No one is racist according to Harry’s interview with Tom Bradby !
The king is the head of all justice in the UK, he cannot use the courts system for his own benefit. The trial would be seen as unfair and biased towards the king which it would be.
Shocking
There is no royal racist.
The conversation or questions if they took place were curiosity!! Ask Chris Rock!!
Charlie can solved the problem. He was the one who was corresponding with Meghan about the subject. Charlie can and should release the letters. Cant he ?????
I want to know who was listening at this 'so callled' conversation to know that this statement about an unborn baby was even made. Parents and families always wonder 'who will the new baby look like, what color hair etc.' .....my grandmother had 10 children and it was always a common question with each pregnancy. Why is this such a "do not discuss" topic now? Ridiculous!!
When meg made the statement she had 16 lies already in that interview to be her you would be a fool.
Because he didn’t write this book. Jealousy’s and someone who was disloyal to Royals Family.
But public, people the best judges we experience who is who.
Royal family was powerful and popular and will be more than ever. Loyalty to country, trust, motivation make them successful. King is more popular. Gorgeous Prince William and his Beautiful Princess Catherine are both very supportive, loyal, trustworthy loving couples.
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I LOVE THE WORKING ROYAL FAMILY……TAKE THE TITLES AWAY FROM DANGEROUS VILE HARKLES NOW….
They should sue Scobie AND MEGHAN.
Qu’est-ce que Meghan a avoir la dedans vous lisez trop le daily échec qui vas être en procès avec Harry 😂😂😂
The Brits love their royal drama meanwhile half of the country can barely make ends meet!
Harry and Megan will come out disassociating themselves... Omid then will look at his options. Curiouser and curiouser. Endgame is an anagram of megan'ed