「Orange Pi Neo - The first TRUE Steam Deck competitor?」
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- Orange Pi Neo - a True Steam Deck competitor and the closest thing to a real Steam Deck
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I really do hope that this device can have the trackpads function with steam input. Even though my use of it being a secondary camera on my deck has been significantly reduced, I still use it for it's touch menus and mouse region.
A legion go 2tb version microscenter exclusive regularly sells for $750 but this thing seems very promising. If they put 32 gigs of RAM on that 8840U it'll sell out
This is the closest a competitor has gotten to actually being a steam deck competitor in my eyes because it has the 2 front trackpads and uses linux (wish they didn't go with a Manjaro based handheld however, Manjaro has let their authentication certs expire in the past). The issue is, it's missing the grip buttons on the back and I don't know if steam input can use the trackpads. I _need_ those to play Warframe comfortably. For me it's 90% of the way there to "Oh I've got to have this even though I have a deck" but faceplants at the finish line.
Well for what it’s worth, you could always install Bazzite.
And they did supposedly pick hardware that works on Linux so it shouldn’t be too big of a deal.
The lack of rear buttons is pretty much a deal breaker for me. It's like when the ps1 initially released without dual joysticks.
@@AlbertScoot At least I can recommend it easily to people who don't need the back bumpers.
yes id like to see you try it out.
This is tempting! Do yall think they will announce a steam deck 2 this yr??
That's would be crazy bc I just brought my OLED S.D. this year.
But maybe who knows. But I do imagine them cooking up something good and releasing a SD2 next year. Maybe.
I still buy it tho! 😅
@@yaknow5252yea i wanna get the oled soon, just hoping they wont announce a new one it the end of the yr. But im like u i would still buy it if that ends up being the case
Valve said they're waiting till they have enough technological progress, so it'll probably be in 2026 or 2027 because this is the time scheduled to launch 2nm CPUs.
Remember rog Ally Z1 extreme has pretty much been running at $600 at Best buy for quite a while
Fact been using it for a while. I got a range of devices PCs and laptops so I know what most Apus bring to the table compared to a dedicated gaming PC. What is wild to me is people here saying steam deck is still gonna be better. XD I mean wtf cult bros. 1its not out yet how you know 2 spec list hell of a lot better 3 it's running near identical os.
It's more of an alternative than a competitor, as it's Linux based, your primary gaming platform is still going to be Steam.
It's a ripoff! I can't imagine the problems and lack of support this device will or wouldn't get. O yes I can 😂
i wont even consider a hand held pc that lacks the little track pad thing for desktop use so this is promising
The USB 4.0 for an external graphics card setup already makes me more interested in it. Have an actual dock setup.
I have De Quervain's Tenosynovitis so doing a lot of gaming with my thumbs causes me physical pain. The back buttons and trackpads of the Steam Deck have been a huge help, and the macro buttons look great too - but not at the cost of back buttons. We have a lot of fingers, let's use them.
Yeah I do agree, having back buttons would be nice too. It is a shame that we don't have both back buttons and shoulder macros too.
Im glad Orange Pi made this! However, im likely to put stock Arch on this, Manjaros take is a pain. But id snag up a 32GB RAM model!
Wow, the specs and the price looks promising. Hopefully it won't be a flop.
I hope it won't be too difficult to get to the NVME slot (here's looking at you MSI Claw!) because I'd like to put in my own 4TB SSD to hold my entire Steam library. The SD card slot should do fine for my emulation needs and I'll be one happy camper for the next 2+ years!
The Ally is $399 (non Extreme vers) And is on par with the Steam Deck.
You can install any OS you want with the benefit of local support.
If you really want an ROG Ally, get the Z1 Extreme version. The weaker GPU in the Z1 will hold you back even compared to the Steam Deck.
with the design saying no exposed screws i wander how easy it will be to get inside and change parts the parts like the storage
It is indeed the first. Like the the deck, the orange pi is all about open.
Using Linux is of course a good start, because you can basically do anything.
nice price point but im worried about the driver and long term support
real question, how can you be an OLED denier? first time i‘ve heard of it I was blown away just by the possibility of single lit led
OLED does look nice but it's a lot more expensive and it not ideal for gaming / PC due to burn in. I bought an OLED TV and won't buy another until the price comes down as I don't think it worth it.
2024 is shaping up to be a great year for handheld gamers!! Eagerly awaiting what Nintendo Switch 2 will bring to the table..
It is good to see Linux getting more traction on handhelds, lets hope it has a good user experience.
Steam deck still have OLED going and some other stuff, but other windows PC handheld are going have to drop. All depends does not flop.
I'd have preferred them use Nobara OS Steam Deck Edition since that also is a Linux distro that uses KDE plasma as the desktop environment but for me 2 of the more important things is it has a actual gaming mode that is really similar to the Steam Decks actaul OS's Gaming Mode & it comes with plenty of the stuff made by the same team behind Proton GE already installed with the OS no need to find them in the app manager. Other than that since they're at least not using a OS like windows that has yet to actually have a version thats handheld friendly which a few of Linux distros are already doing they already seem like they're thinking of the end user experience in my personal opinion unlike the other companies making handhelds.
like legion go, the right trackpad is too low on the device to use it as main input. I can see why they do this, otherwise the device would be too "chonky". Personally I'm not gonna go back to stick aiming
I don't really feel like Steam has actual competitors because of all other parts of Steam. But thinking about things just now, even if a bunch of competitors create viable alternatives to Steam Deck that get adopted, it's kind of a huge win for Steam anyway. Because these portable gaming PCs that create what is basically an enhanced console experience just bring more people to PC gaming and potentially even takes them away from console gaming. Steam is the king of PC gaming and the dominant player in the PC games marketplace. Therefore it's bringing them a ton more business. And it also brings more incentive for Sony. Microsoft, and Nintendo (and their 2nd party studios) to bring their games to PC. This is probably part of the reason why Steam is not trying to hinder its competitors from producing a similar experience to Steam Deck.
they aligned (crammed) all the controls vertically to save a tiny bit of space. GRRRR
I thought the Aya Neo Kun was the comepetor? but the price of it is too expensive
At its current price it’s less competition and more of a non-option period.
ill gladly pay another $100 if they can make the battery bigger.
Honestly, I do think that nearly all of the handhelds on the market are competitors for the Steam Deck - they're just quite bad competition.
I would say that *currently* the closest competitor is the Ally, although if I had my choice I'd say the Go is better competition.
But it is my personal opinion that many of the people buying these Windows handhelds are majorly comprised of people that fundamentally do not actually know what they want, or rather, they think they want something that they don't. This, as mentioned, isn't the case for all, but it has been my anecdotal observation to be the case. Additionally, I do not actually think this is necessarily a bad thing. I would prefer the hypothetical reality where everyone does ample due diligence and has the self-awareness to always (or nearly always) make the correct decision the first time, but that isn't reality; People are human and they need to learn.
To be fair, it also happens that I made similar decisions in my younger years, which likely influences my conclusion-making.
Regarding the Orange Pi Neo, like many of these devices, it will almost certainly come down to the software experience. I believe that Linux provides the better platform for that to be the case, given all of Window's restrictions, but that remains to be seen. But in general, I am excited to see how all of this plays out.
At the very least, even if Manjaro Gaming Edition isn't as good as we hope, there's hope as they've supposedly selected hardware that's known to work well on Linux.
Which means you could replace Manjaro GE with Bazzite, or Chimera, or Nobara.
I wish the specs told us how big and heavy it is. It’s not the size of the 3ds just yet so I can’t fit it in my pocket but it would be nice if it was lighter than the steam deck. That mf is heavy bro. It’d be nice to have something that I could take to school that isn’t a million pounds
There's another video on UA-cam that shows the OPiN in a table with a Steam Deck and it is a little smaller.
If they perfectly nail this, it may as well be Steam Deck 2.0😂 Seriously😅
Lol the OS has no impact on price. But I bet their crappy battery DOES.
It’s the same battery capacity as the Steam Deck OLED.
they will outdo steram deck but at what cost ? just until recently steam deck reached 300 euros for base model while every other so called competitor goes for twice a much with little to no gain over steam deck and definetly not twice the performance like the cost might suggest.
Might just get steam deck and be done with for couple years until these competitors get priced accordingly and not like decent gaming laptop that just smokes these things.
They did give out pricing for USD.
Though both models are more expensive than the lowest end Deck, I'd say these models are far more competitive in price than any other Non-Deck PC handheld that's come.
Look there are 2 real handhelds on the market the Steam Deck & the king of handheld Nintendo.
Thats it!
Everything else is a ripoff. But i do love the competition this will make valve and sony step it up.
Ok, this seems to be like a hype video. It's cool, but when you start dissing back buttons and acting like it's better to be gone. I started to question the validity of this video. It's noce to have more buttons. Because most people hate claw gripping and being forced to hold a special button to make every button do an alternate action (a lot of rpg games), having more options is better. Tbh, even the steam deck doesn't have enough buttons. But it's the best we have. This device is definitely not better for removing them
I never said it was better for removing them. I just stated that I started to prefer shoulder macro keys. Not the same assertion.
@HiTechLoLife ok, I wasn't sure about that. Thanks for clearing that up.
I honestly would like all of them. Shoulder and back. Everything.
Anything to avoid twisting my fingers all over the place to do something a game had to lazily adapt to a controller in a non ergonomic way
No. Stop baitin'
Oh it’s no bait. It’s real
@@HiTechLoLife 😅
@@HiTechLoLife super low tier bait mate.
@@HiTechLoLife Real trash! These people are just ripoff artist just like the others. I imagine the steam deck 2 is gonna make yall wish y'all never brought whatever this device is.
Do any of you know that Orange Pi is actually a very legitimate brand 😅
Yawn.... The Claw was supposed to be the "Steam Deck Killer". Not so much.
The unmitigated disaster that was the MSI Claw? Naw most everyone I knew was skeptical about the Claw from day 1. Including me.
Yeah really wondering who was talking up the MSI claw.
This comment is certainly the first time I heard that anyone was expecting anything out of it
Nah, your baits are getting annoying.
Not a competitior. Ripoff artists.
Their couldn't come up with this on they own.
That actually requires talent.
And name is so f_cking goofy! 😂