Bhj blok-tru + how we set it up

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  • @brianw8963
    @brianw8963 3 місяці тому +21

    You’re not only a top notch machinist, but You evidently have some ESP capabilities. I’ve been wondering how You set these procedures up and here it is! And now comes these high output 4 cylinders with the offset crank to bore set ups. I understand the concept, but holy crapola! Thanks . 👍👍🇺🇸

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +3

      Well, I'm glad I got it out there!

    • @TimothyArnott-m7z
      @TimothyArnott-m7z 3 місяці тому

      @@brianw8963 Daniel got hos shi% together dont he!!??.....i am a PROUD sub'r!!....u shud be too!!.....this aint no fluff, this IS how its done!!

  • @deankay4434
    @deankay4434 18 днів тому +1

    When you demystify the machining process vary well as you explain making fixture plates then qualifying by measuring, should explain why it costs money to get work done correctly. Simple… and good job Daniel. I truly appreciate this information.

  • @mineown1861
    @mineown1861 3 місяці тому +15

    Great explanation , you've got the art of teaching , broke it down and stepped through it .
    Thanks for the time you both put into filming and editing the video, much appreciated.

  • @DanielSmith-yp7mw
    @DanielSmith-yp7mw 3 місяці тому +4

    Thanks for showing this. I never really knew the specifics how this gets done. I knew how it's supposed to be, but not "how". Great stuff, dude. You see this get done all over, but very few machinists are willing to take the time to explain it with this kind of detail.

  • @StrykerHP
    @StrykerHP 3 місяці тому +4

    Daniel, you are a master machinist. The way you explain everything is really easy to understand. Another awesome video. Thank you

  • @adampatterson707
    @adampatterson707 3 місяці тому +3

    Daniel please teach classes for the up and coming kids that want to be automotive machinests. You sir are so gifted at teaching.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +2

      I'm just average for sure, but this channel I hope will be around a long time and I plan on putting as much information out as possible

  • @ericstalker7973
    @ericstalker7973 3 місяці тому

    WOW!!! Mr.Danial you are flipping genius. You know it's one thing to have nice machinery but to run and use the equipment to it's full potential and be spot on whatever you need it to do is just mind blowing. I have no doubt in my mind that you can machine a block with truer specs then what comes out of the factory. People who try to talk smack saying you are wrong or not doing something right are 110 percent ignorant.. please keep your videos rolling, I learn something new with every video of yours I watch. ❤❤ Thank you for sharing your endless intelligence

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому

      Tyvm!!, I really appreciate the vote of confidence!

  • @ebinmaine
    @ebinmaine 3 місяці тому +5

    Very interesting video. I really like that you take the time to explain how folks with a decent machining setup can make their own tools and other equipment.
    Not just encouraging... but factual. You just.... can.
    Well done.

  • @ericcrawford326
    @ericcrawford326 3 місяці тому +2

    What you do is becoming a lost art. All of the machine shops near me have shut down. I now have to drive at least two hours one way to get any machine work done. Hopefully your videos will inspire young people to get into automotive machining.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      Sorry to hear that, it's becoming the norm unfortunately 😕

  • @ehguy3628
    @ehguy3628 3 місяці тому +2

    What is Bhj blok-tru + ?
    Also, for decades I've wondered how/what gave the absolute reference for the machine work.
    I no longer wonder, great explanation, now I know.

  • @MTHead.
    @MTHead. 3 місяці тому +2

    I just joined UA-cam a couple of weeks ago. You are the first channel I subscribed to. As others have said, you have the gift of breaking things down inito easily understandable parts. Could you possibly do a video discussing what order of machining steps you would recommend under the common conditions of the blocks and heads you have come in. THX

  • @jimcondray4632
    @jimcondray4632 3 місяці тому +4

    Another very clear, informative video. I wish my machine shop teacher back in the '80's was willing to actually teach like you do.

  • @joshuagibson2520
    @joshuagibson2520 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you. I have done many my types of machining over my career, but have always wondered how a block is fixtured smd set up. Thank you very much.

  • @yosmith1
    @yosmith1 3 місяці тому +3

    Always been curious how you measure deck height. Really appreciate these detailed explanations.

  • @TimothyArnott-m7z
    @TimothyArnott-m7z 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey Daniel,
    Tim here.......i'm fairly good at machining things to .0005......have done so many years......articulate measurements, chk, and re chk b4 cut is made.......all i can say is once AGAIN, YOU sir have PROVED my sub'n/T-shirt purchase .......you oughta teach young- uns...... its an art that only a few can really master, but with proper tools, and understanding, u can dial it all in!!......young-uns need to be schooled, and motivated.....neither me or you are gettin any younger......once we're gone..WHO is gonna carru the torch??.....this vid was VERY articulate, and informative, for our younger crowd....i watched the whole thing cuz i'm a machinist nerd....as u probly know.....VERY concise, no BS vid!!......hope some young folks find it awesome, as i do, and i've been doin it for 43 yrs or so.....i NEVER wanna stop learning...NEVER NE A KNOW IT ALL!!!...NEVER!!!..shut up and learn!!!......TY sir!!!....MOST enjoyable!!!

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому

      @user-bc9sz1dj1g that is the exact reason I decided to make this channel, this information will be here forever, so hopefully those that choose to will take something from it.

    • @TimothyArnott-m7z
      @TimothyArnott-m7z 3 місяці тому

      @@powellmachineinc we can only hope/pray they will listen/adhere to the knowledge.....

  • @robertheymann5906
    @robertheymann5906 3 місяці тому +1

    Love the BHJ tooling, I've done a bunch of lifter bores and it went very smoothly

  • @monsterdong7520
    @monsterdong7520 3 місяці тому +3

    This dude is so smart and good at what he does. I can listen to him talk all day, even if I don’t understand it it’s still very cool

  • @dandesantis7105
    @dandesantis7105 3 місяці тому +1

    Another great, informative video Daniel, thank you! One suggestion to consider for your set-up is to move the saddles closer to the block to minimize deflection on the shaft and to stiffen the assembly for machining.

  • @strokermaverick
    @strokermaverick 3 місяці тому +2

    Daniel, I'm just smart enough, to understand what you were talking about!😃 Thank you, for explaining it in plain english.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      Happy to help!, this is the goal, get the information out there , it helps all of us

  • @charlesstoneking1574
    @charlesstoneking1574 3 місяці тому +1

    You sir and others like you inspire people who are in this field to do better as well as inspiring young men to get into this field. My 14 year old son and his friends watch every episode.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому

      That is so awesome!!!!! Tell them to stay after it, that truly makes me happy

  • @donaldhalls2189
    @donaldhalls2189 3 місяці тому +1

    Awesome, very informative and explanatory, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones

  • @fastst1
    @fastst1 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for expanding that topic! good to learn a little something! Man a shop class with you and Gale Banks would be worth a million bucks.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      @fastst1 gale is in college and I'm in preschool!

  • @misterv4462
    @misterv4462 3 місяці тому +1

    Love the way you explain the processes in your videos......I'm a visual learner, too. I've watched a BUNCH of your videos since I found your channel and I've learned a lot!! One of the biggest things I've learned........you can't just buy parts from the catalog and slap together a street rod/dragster engine. If I were to build a hotrod engine.......I'd hire you to build it 'cause I ain't got $$$$$$ to throw out the window. There are SO MANY small things to watch out for!! Love your videos!!

  • @Expedition18
    @Expedition18 3 місяці тому +4

    ❤ the Friday postings awesome way to go into the weekend

  • @graceenginedevelopments
    @graceenginedevelopments 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi, my friend just recommended your channel. Thank you very enjoyable

  • @Hybridknfgrowchannel
    @Hybridknfgrowchannel 3 місяці тому +2

    Nice a shop you can confidently spend money on. Good work

  • @gazza116
    @gazza116 3 місяці тому +2

    very good explanation, especially about fwd bck error.would cause excessive cyl and crank wear i would imagine.

  • @kevenclickner6436
    @kevenclickner6436 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video. Enjoy all your videos that I've seen actually. Very enlightening to me. I won't go to my local shop and be entirely ignorant. If you were closer I'd bring my work to you. If you wanted some small block La Mopar. Lol

  • @jim8027
    @jim8027 3 місяці тому +2

    Very easy to understand. That setup makes fixing factory block screw ups easy, LOL.

  • @apollorobb
    @apollorobb 3 місяці тому +2

    Another nice one sir for the General populous . Keep up the good work Guys

  • @The340king
    @The340king 3 місяці тому +1

    We typically would make a cleanup pass with the deck mill to get the decks level and 45° from cam/crank centerline. Then we would bore the block and hone it. Once that was done we would assemble the crank with the 4 corner pistons and verify deck height with the rotating assembly before finish decking. The rules require being at or below the deck with the pistons. Highest of the corners dictates deck height. Cranks are indexed and rods end for end measured and trued also.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      I just measure everything out and calculate my deck hieght requirements.

    • @The340king
      @The340king 3 місяці тому

      @powellmachineinc3179 we did that also,but double-checked it with a trial assembly.

  • @justinkorpela7955
    @justinkorpela7955 3 місяці тому +1

    Awesome explanation on how you perform that

  • @dalewinters2751
    @dalewinters2751 3 місяці тому +1

    Great clip! Extremely informative. To get a good perspective, could you show the actual corrections ( milling process) it takes to correct an out of shape block? Thank you sir.

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 3 місяці тому +1

    Good video Daniel.
    Have a great weekend. 👍

  • @daleyahnke7215
    @daleyahnke7215 3 місяці тому +2

    so much great info! hope you have a wonderful weekend!!!!

  • @RustyorBroken
    @RustyorBroken 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks, mister, for the detailed explanation. I had asked about this in a previous video. What do you do when someone brings you a GM 60 degree? Tell them to turn around and head back in the direction they came from? 😉

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      Na, we would just indicate off the deck or if it was a performance deal we would just make a plate

  • @yarrdayarrdayarrda
    @yarrdayarrdayarrda 3 місяці тому

    I've rough bored blocks that were previously sleeved using a deck mounted boring bar where a 0.015" pass didn't completely clean up one side of the bottom of the cylinder. (We use a Rottler that registers off the mainline and pan rails) I understand that the CNC block centers, if you just set it up to rough the cylinders off of blueprint, there are situations where a cylinder won't clean (factory machining wasn't that close) so they "probe" the cylinders first and tweak the program on any problem cylinders. I would have to assume the modern blocks like the LS/Gen III hemi/etc. are pretty accurate compared to the old 60's through 90's stuff.

  • @aslacker
    @aslacker 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the continued education Daniel!

  • @adven999
    @adven999 3 місяці тому

    Great video as always.... Is it worth considering remaking the sliding dial gauge holder out of steel? Just thinking about the possibility of wear considering the amount of use it will see being aluminium.... It'll also be more thermally stable ! Just a thought.

  • @MrWetstone
    @MrWetstone 3 місяці тому +3

    The light bulb lite when I saw the cam housing cones.

  • @Bryan_ArnoldWorks
    @Bryan_ArnoldWorks 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice explanation! Like others I was curious how this is done

  • @chopperguy57
    @chopperguy57 3 місяці тому +2

    Very good information. I build Harley motors out of my garage, so I understand all the clearing. I don’t have any machines so I send out that part. I don’t know if I need a boring machine or a lathe for the single cylinders. Do you do any of that type work?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      Yes, we use to do tons of harley engines, a boring bar and a small boring table is what u want

  • @NoMatter78
    @NoMatter78 3 місяці тому +1

    Like how you always explain what tolerances are acceptable or not.

  • @derickmorgan4956
    @derickmorgan4956 3 місяці тому +3

    Awesome information!!!

  • @flinch622
    @flinch622 3 місяці тому +3

    Given a good number of folks experience deck problems, do you find issues with pan rails from time to time?

  • @DixieGeezer
    @DixieGeezer 3 місяці тому +1

    Good job. Thanks for the education.

  • @georgedubois76
    @georgedubois76 3 місяці тому +1

    That answers my questions. Thank you

  • @henrybobswillikers
    @henrybobswillikers 3 місяці тому +2

    Another great video. Thank you.

  • @minigpracing3068
    @minigpracing3068 3 місяці тому +2

    Do you line bore or hone the crank and cam journals before you set it up to be surfaced? And do you get any distortion from not having the adapter rings in the other crank journals? I'm probably never going to put my hands on anything like this, but it's all very interesting.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +2

      Yes, align honed, no distortion, block is light and rigid

    • @minigpracing3068
      @minigpracing3068 3 місяці тому

      @@powellmachineinc I thought that might be the first step since the other surfaces are referenced from the bar.

  • @robinfulton9057
    @robinfulton9057 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the explanation, well done.

  • @mikeframe9852
    @mikeframe9852 3 місяці тому +2

    If the cam bore or freeze plugs aren't visually centered in the bosses, is that really an indicator the block has too much core shift and shouldn't be used? I have a 350 Chevy (80's "207" block with 4 bolt mains) and the cam bore looks way off.

  • @GhostSniper67
    @GhostSniper67 3 місяці тому +2

    Daniel, if you deck a block that has the VIN number on the block, do you or can you add them back like the factory did it?

  • @jimmyford796
    @jimmyford796 3 місяці тому +2

    Great video it was very informative.

  • @fstjack6525
    @fstjack6525 2 місяці тому

    Great Information! Thank you.

  • @roberthumphreys1316
    @roberthumphreys1316 3 місяці тому +1

    I took many classes at the community college level, I have a technical degree, I pulled a five year apprenticeship, I have seen many teachers. You are as good or better than the best of them. You need to find and hire a couple of the right young people to teach your trade, they might be hard to find but they are around, In ten years time you might be more interested in a nice vacation than working sixty hours a week, having competent fully trainer help would make that a lot easier. Your wife might could use help also.

  • @georgecutler920
    @georgecutler920 3 місяці тому +1

    The method to the madness!😎👍

  • @JonBanquer
    @JonBanquer 3 місяці тому

    What do you charge to use the BHJ fixture to completely square up a block?

  • @MrTooTechnical
    @MrTooTechnical 3 місяці тому +1

    Great vid. So if the main crank bore is not correct (assuming that is the starting reference), then what? Thanks.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      That's why we always start a block at the line hone

    • @MrTooTechnical
      @MrTooTechnical 3 місяці тому

      So that means there is no reference for that then. You go off the factory line?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      @MrTooTechnical yes, even cnc does also, every thing is refranced from the crack CL

    • @MrTooTechnical
      @MrTooTechnical 3 місяці тому

      So can it be said that the cl is near perfect? Or how far can it be out of spec on your machine that u can correct?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      @@MrTooTechnical it is the refrance, so everything else is corrected to it

  • @ronosga4391
    @ronosga4391 3 місяці тому +2

    What brand is that boring table you use?

  • @brianholcomb6499
    @brianholcomb6499 3 місяці тому +1

    Most factory LS blocks are off! Some way more than that! If you check the one in your hone, it maybe way off! Most think new block, it’s read to go! Which is never the case! Internet says, slam it together! Then wonder why they have issues 🙄🙄🙄🙄! Good job explaining!

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому

      @@brianholcomb6499 ty!

    • @mikeday8826
      @mikeday8826 3 місяці тому

      They are close enough to last 200k+ miles, and then throw a turbo on it, and go a few hundred passes.

  • @rolfemarquis1017
    @rolfemarquis1017 3 місяці тому +1

    i see that you hone a lot of diff motors. i just got my race build back from the shop and the crosshatch was supposed to be 30 degrees i just checked and theyre 10 degrees. in your opinion is this going to be an issue? do i have to oversize now and have it done again?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому

      @rolfemarquis1017 yes, also the actual profile of the hone is as or more important than the angle,

    • @rolfemarquis1017
      @rolfemarquis1017 3 місяці тому

      @@powellmachineinc is it cool if I send you the numbers so you can tell me what you think I know ur busy but I watch your vids and you really seem to know ur stuff

    • @rolfemarquis1017
      @rolfemarquis1017 3 місяці тому +2

      Trying to get a professional engine builders unbiased opinion I'm pretty sure they botched the job. Ray Charles is back I'm my neck of the woods lol

  • @funkyzero
    @funkyzero 3 місяці тому +1

    I have an honest question... I understand the desire to make everything perfect, but how can doing all of this for .005 or .007 possibly produce measurable beneficial results? By the time that thing heats up, it's all squirreled out of shape by a several thou anyway. As long as the heads and everything are sealing right, does it REALLY matter that much at all? I'm being serious, not just critical. I just don't see how paying for all of that and going through all of the trouble squaring it up for such small increments could make a difference enough make it all worth the trouble. Am I missing something?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      Decks are important for intake fitment, it's moving no doubt, but not like a cylinder bore

    • @funkyzero
      @funkyzero 3 місяці тому

      @@powellmachineinc Keep in mind that even though I've built more engines in my life than most regular people, I'm still just a shade tree amateur in that realm, so I have to take your word on it. It just doesn't make sense to me with the limited knowledge I have. I get the part about linear bore alignment and needing that surface to be on plane with the crankshaft so bores can be machined to match, but my brain just can't grasp how numbers that small can make a measurable difference. Now I know that it's important, but I never would have guessed that it was this critical. Thanks for taking the time to explain it.

  • @70sAirForceBrat
    @70sAirForceBrat 3 місяці тому

    Out of curiosity, out of all the LS and LT stock blocks that you done, how many of them have you found that were off center line from GM?

  • @brianalbrecht4423
    @brianalbrecht4423 3 місяці тому +2

    excelant,excelant explanation..!..Daniel...easly understood..!...one question...detroit or any major auto maker...dont do all that mesurin on every block...?..right...?...they may do like one every 100 or 1000...am i correct in assume'n that..?..they just take them check a few thinks,clean them up & slam them together...!..?..mass production...!..a "qualified" machine shop makes an engine...as "perfict" as can be...!..if the coustomer wants all the services..of course...!..thanks 4 take the time...love videos like this...!..!..hope u & your family had a nice 4th..did the boss give u off...?..😉

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому

      Yes, they set a machine, check some samples and run a batch,

    • @brianalbrecht4423
      @brianalbrecht4423 3 місяці тому

      @@powellmachineinc thanks Daniel thats what i learned about the auto industry from the 60ies through the 70ties...it has most likey has got'n less important...?...IMO...?..keep up the good work...people notice...!..

  • @truthboomertruthbomber5125
    @truthboomertruthbomber5125 3 місяці тому +1

    How do you indicate in the 2” bar?

  • @SixBarrel
    @SixBarrel 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for your Time , always the Best and how do a job well done 🍻👍🏼

  • @sebastianbezuidenhout41
    @sebastianbezuidenhout41 2 місяці тому

    Have you ever done work on a Toyota 1uz v8

  • @fordguy8613
    @fordguy8613 3 місяці тому

    With the block hanging in the middle and the 2" bar supported on the ends, is there any bar deflection concerns?

  • @JonBanquer
    @JonBanquer 3 місяці тому +1

    BHJ should give you the fixture for free for making a video explaining how it's used.

  • @nattydreadlocks1973
    @nattydreadlocks1973 3 місяці тому +1

    How much did that machine cost?

  • @solitudenomercy9661
    @solitudenomercy9661 3 місяці тому

    I have a unrelated tech question if you don’t mid is I have a p0420 I put on a spacer now I get a p013a code can you point me in the correct direction

  • @JamesBower-l9d
    @JamesBower-l9d 3 місяці тому +1

    Will you need a shorter timing chain ?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      No

    • @JamesBower-l9d
      @JamesBower-l9d 3 місяці тому +1

      I had a 396 bbc and it 406 sbc line honed with screw in studs and had to get a.005 short chain for each of them.

  • @slopoke22
    @slopoke22 3 місяці тому +2

    I heard a BHJ fixture is square to the earth. Lol. I have a bhj bar and none of the rest of it. I've used one several times, though, back at SAMTECH. We'll I was there before then when it was The School of Automotive Machinist

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      There good, but I wasn't as impressed with there "precision " as I thought I would be

    • @slopoke22
      @slopoke22 3 місяці тому

      ​@powellmachineinc3179 yeah it was different when I was there b4 they changed the name and it went more mainstream. I've helped build 7 engine masters engines that placed top 4 and above. Also worked on the camaro and mustang race cars while I was there. I'm a serious cylinder head guy and almost bought a machine shop several years ago and didn't. Like your channel, u seem to understand it more than most

    • @slopoke22
      @slopoke22 3 місяці тому +1

      Also, don't think judson is there as much anymore. Also, as u know. The machine is only as good as the man running it. You can have the best stuff and still know nothin.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      @@slopoke22 facts

  • @Anthony-nw5zv
    @Anthony-nw5zv 3 місяці тому +1

    So, each company like Chevy would have their own specific plate for v8, v6 and so on!?

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      No 1 plate fits most

    • @jeffreydurham5342
      @jeffreydurham5342 3 місяці тому +2

      The slot for the cam tunnel cones allows that plate to work on most conventional 90 degree v style engines with the cam in the block.

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      @@jeffreydurham5342 correct

  • @davidholcomb9961
    @davidholcomb9961 3 місяці тому +1

    Yeah, it would not be good if your piston and rod are hammering the crank and bearing on an angle! I imagine the bearings would be wiped out pretty fast. I don't think i've ever seen a bearing worn unevenly; probably because the engines don't last long enough to end up in junk yards.

  • @richardlay1492
    @richardlay1492 3 місяці тому

    Where are you located

  • @futten3230
    @futten3230 3 місяці тому +1

    AHAA so thats how that tool works and how ya indicte and get the surfaces 45 degrees ive seen others machinist bubblelevels and refferenced off the bores so make the deck perpedicular to the bores

  • @patrickwendling6759
    @patrickwendling6759 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for your knowledge and videos USA 🇺🇸 TRUMP 2024

  • @jackwillson8099
    @jackwillson8099 3 місяці тому +1

    If you need a video on how to machine & your a machinist lol ,you shouldn't be doing this

    • @powellmachineinc
      @powellmachineinc  3 місяці тому +1

      There's tons out there that just don't know, young and or inexperienced, we are just trying to show the proper processes so people know how it should be done

    • @jackwillson8099
      @jackwillson8099 3 місяці тому

      @powellmachineinc3179 I get it! but I'm old school, if you take a part in your hand, you should be able too figure how too hold it & machine it 1 or 2 minutes ,or you will never make it in a job shop machine shop ! I invent & design all kinds of shit all the time lol,have couple Patents but your only good a your last machine job!