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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Abba is joined by Thau Thau and they discuss the history of the Bible and how we should not allow it to be our point of departure when it comes to our Existence.
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Thau-thau has a very calming voice. Him speaking irrespective of what he says already puts you at ease. His vocals are magical. Beautiful experience.
Elder Thau Thau spitting germs of knowledge..pure mlilo❤
He is spitting my bra. He used to share and talk but here he is spitting.
Ahahah yes ini de I dem is so rite good works my brother give it to dem
We will never be free from this oppression by europeans until we go back to our Ancestral ways of doing things. Siyabulela ma Africa ngale ngxoxo ebalulekileyo
The thing is Africans in Africa are lost , most Africans for the last 1600 years have been living under Arab or European rule
Wise man indeed you are in all this knowledge
Thank you again our teachers for enlightening us. Our lights as Bantu people are getting brighter and brighter.
The Irish Druids didn’t write down what was meant only to be passed soul to soul. Love it guys, inspiring. Love from Ireland. 🍀
"Christianity started out in Palestine as a fellowship; it moved to Greece and became a philosophy; it moved to Italy and became an institution; it moved to Europe and became a culture; it came to America and became an enterprise." ~Sam Pascoe
I say "Christianity came to Africa and destroyed us as a people through the system of Colonization."
Colonial Christianity yes.
Indeed, we are so channelled due to this christianity ideology 😢😢😢
It came to Africa as a weapon of mass socio-economic, cultural, mental & spiritual destruction. Still doing its colonial objective to this day.
@Khani Makhanani Not entirely true. Remember Christianity came to Africa 1500 years before colonialism and Slavery. And we need to get out of the mentality of always defining black history with Slavery and colonialism. Our history doesn't begin there, and our History with Christianity doesn't start there either. Half truth is deception.
@@B4Africa what cud be 100% to you may only be 50% true for others. Same goes to realities around when or how the phenomenon got to some both superficially and substantively. In my part of the world, by the time christian religion reached my ancestors, both immediate and at least 6 generations ago, already a colonial weapon wt all its attendant isms. May not have been the same for you, and its ok.
When I am listening to Thau Thau , my low moral spirits rise up .....what a knowledgeable session.
Indeed
He is knowledgeable. Big ups to him
It's difficult to save ppl tht don't know they are captured.
These discussions are so refreshing, especially coming from someone like myself who is fed up of listening to the toxic black American conscious community that discuss everything but what actually matters and consistently argue amongst one another. Keep going 💪🏾❤️
Makwande badala 🙏🏾We were indoctrinated to be workers and not entrepreneurs. In Zimbabwe the white farmers forced their sons to go to agricultural college which was founded by them to make sure in every generation there was someone to make money from the stolen land.
I’m going back home soon finally after 30yrs abroad to go into farming and to live off grid.
All the best on your new journey 💪🏾💪🏾
I am so grateful for this level of edification. My soul is thirsty. UBUNTU
Screaming over "the tired god who rests on a sabbath" 😂😂😂 Great Master please, its too early into the episode to be roasting god 😂😂😂
I'm Catholic. My priest once highlighted this problem because it didn't make sense.🤣
Greetings my Kings, great to be in ur presence. I appreciate the enlightenment bayette 🙏🙏🙏. Soo much was hidden, soo much was disturbed. In my opinion the bible is an African culture to certain aspects if not all, the cursed race imitates our ancestors & having us imitating their misery ( spell been passive to a threat, if u eat or touch ye shall surely die fear tactics, false evidence appearing real) bayette my Kings. Nemetoka visiwa vya carrebian St Kitts &Nevis 🇰🇳🇰🇳🇬🇭🇬🇭.
How I wish such knowledge could reach the majority of black kids out there....guys let's share short videos across all social media platforms...wena WhatsApp,Twitter,IG, Facebook,etc... its time to wake up now
Elder Nuku Grandmaster Thau Thau, I always look forward to hear his wisdom
King Thau Thau, the knowledge, the wisdom 🔥🔥🔥
Please bring Zamalek Giza to the platform
I would like to see VhoZamalek Giza featuring these two legence🎉
@jayjames9538 you are so right
akanolenza ixesha uZamalek apha ulwazi lwakhe luthe sa..
Big personalities 😮 I would love that to but I think they come from the same school
I was about to say so.
Madume Barena we give massive Thanks for wisdom you’re impacting on us. Can please talk more about angels . That’s one concept I can’t get my mind around.
Bobaba cela uku fundiswayini lolwaz buhlungu it's to look at abantu abakwi age yami nabadala Kunam celakwaz nitholakalaphi cela kufundiswayini🙏
The Bible's idea of God is so laughable now,i can't believe i used defend it.I was mad now I'm rising 🙌Give thanks 🙏..black mampatile😅😂
I don't know how any black African can worship a white jewish God or a Arab profit or God , when African spiritually predates any Religion
I was like you, that book is the worst book I've ever read, ...
Me too am glad I've waken up
Give thanks 🙏🏾 ❤
I had to let go all my family. Life is so much better now. I think the family was cursing each other thinking they doing good.. if your right hand offends you cut it off.. I wish my family wasn’t so lazy minded 😢
would really love to hear Ancient Thau Thau presenting to us the melchizedek order
Tricky waters tactfully navigated through the factual guidance of the Grandmaster Thau Thau....please do not stop...we need to normalise such conversations...on a platform where there's no right or wrong just.....misinformed/uninformed & underinformed!!....
What a great session always with the grand master..elder Thau Thau wow everything is profound. We fully appreciate you kings a lot.
Libombo bones from la Eswatini are much older than Ishango bones in my knowledge
Ahoyi. Grand Master Give Thanks and Praise for ypur presence and knowledge always. I n I n I. Bless I.❤
This is a very interesting conversation 🙏🏾 and, big ups to Grandmaster Thau Thau for always feeding us with his wisdom and knowledge. But, I really wish we could have a rooted Christian to be included in conversation as well and give account on all the points raised and their points of view🙏🏾 so, we can have a balanced conversation!! Thank you!! And great show, as always ❤❤
Discussion is complete without a Christian elder. We are tired of the indoctrination of Christianity. We are hungry for our stuff.
@Terrenceditgejane9270
For the first time in our lifetime where we have an alternative, where we get the leverage decolonize ourselves from christian indoctrination, we don't need christians here to defend their concepts, god and faith to cause chaos in the studio, surely we are not here to listen for debate but to receive knowledge from an afrikan/ bantu perspective otherwise we will lose the essence of what is taught here. Anyway they do have their christian platform let's keep them there for now and enjoy the teachings and knowledge from the grandmaster Thau Thau without a man god's interference.
Regards
"The meek (Africans) shall inherit the earth but not its resources" is what was made pretty clear in the christianisation of the black race.
Interesting episode, glad to see Grand master back. Speaking of African Spirituality and having our own IKS which have been suppressed, could we invite Dr Zulumathabo Zulu. He's published books on African Mathematics and even a Sesotho mathematics dictionary. I think it would be valuable to have both him and the Grand master speaking on the intersections of both spirituality and mathematics/science/cosmology in African history and culture.
Always giving many thanks 🖤🖤🖤
Aish Nthate Zulumathabo
Mind Blown 🌊🌊🌊Gold Oil Diamonds 🤯🤯
Iam fidgeting with an eager mind on what the masters have to teach.🔥
Thanks for the content family, I'm happy that brother Thau Thau addresses the Ethiopian Bible coz many people like to bring that up. Now I wish there would be an episode where he goes deep nd unpacks the Ethiopian Bible so we know what it entails. From how it came about, how it was introduced to the Ethiopians.
when you open that african church ntate Thau Thau im joining. i have been following you for some time now and i have never felt this free from the fears of "going to hell"...I wish to some day meet you in person
Am feeling u my Kings, yes the bible is a book of blood & even God is a God of blood, that's y he place Adam & Eve in total passiveness under a spell if ye eat or touch in that day ye shall surely die. Wow!! . Am at ur feet my Kings, Elder Thau Thau 🙏🙏🙏🇰🇳🇬🇭.
Give Thanks 👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥👌 ngiyabonga mina 💙💪✌
Greetings with my spirit full of joy, always when i watch you😊. I would also love to see Joshua Maponga on the show just to find that collaboration, I believe something common will be drawn through the discussions for the greater African Renaissance.
We are ready elders. Rise us up 🐍👁️🦅
I wish you bring Bishop Maponga to join in have conversations with Thau Thau 🙏
Knowledge !!
We need Zamalek Giza with these two Giants 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Zamalek Giza whom he praised English king on Sbuz latest podcast
i've been saying the same thing hey.
I would love to see this discussion between these two minds and Ps Gino Jennings, because I feel Christians were not fairly represented by one of their own.
Kaze uyovuka nini
Always love your shows
We shall rise...
Haramanuba you are a star you are right about maponga and the rest
peace and greetings, as always i enjoyed the convo between the grand masters Abba and Thau Thau. I have a proposal for the two of you, Zamalek Giza and Kgafela to have a discussion on how our southern tribes connect touching on the relation between languages and how the geography plays a role as well. thank you
Can't wait for thau thau the grandmaster #kenyaspace
I am an African and believe in African spirituality than western spirituality. How can a pastor preache give and it shall be given unto you when all they do is take from poor while driving BMWs leving the congregant hungry for example Bushiri and Mboro. God protects me, but they go around with armed bodyguards.
We give thanks❤
One thing about Wiseman, they sometimes don't have full understanding THEY THINK ThEY HAVE.
And you do of course 😊
I'm pleading to you to bring zamalek Giza
❤❤❤ give thanks🙏
Very informative speech,superb,divine ❤
Always dropping knowledge Master Thau-Thau.
Appreciated with maximum respect 🇬🇧🇯🇲
Blessup🤜🏿🤛🏿 Christiandom was officiated by Emperor Constantine 1 of Rome outta Council of Nicaea in 365 AD seen.
Give thanks.
Truth be told. We are rising
Grand Master is back
Another highly informative session. Thank you, ndiyabonga! Camagu maAfrika amahle.
Wow💯💯💯🔥🔥The Wisdom In This Conversation
Profound insight
I totally agree with this man we have to recreate an african religion in line with our african culture, ancestry and spirituality. We must give back these foreign non-african religions back to the owners who tricked our ancestors to abandon their culture and sprituality that prepared africans to be enslaved and colonised
GREAT CONTENT..!!
THE BIBLE, AND OR CHRISTIANITY WAS FORCED UPON BLACK PEOPLE..!
BLACK PEOPLE MUST DEFINE, AND OR SCRIPT OUR OWN HISTORICAL BIBLE 📖
Glad to find this podcast and the topics are fantastic.pls consider transcripts for the few exchange's you have in vernacular. your audience is growing. A very humble request sir.
People teached and indoctrinated to LABELS MATTER means the material realm of this world, religions, politricks, absolutely money over all driven, poor education etc...
"Our inner self is in the spiritual world
and our outer self is in the physical world."
All the world has lost his balance bcs we are starved about our spiritual growth and strength ...
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Yaze yafika lemini ibixelwa💃🎉🎉🎉
Greeting to both the Host Abba Ayalew Amlak and guest Elder Haramanuba.
My question is both of you.For one seeking to unlearn/release oneself from the shackles of Christianity and is looking to get more in touch with my African spirituality,is there a process one can recommend for a novice on this journey.
From the conversations I have taken part in...the scope is vast.
I would sincerely appreciate your feedback.
Blessings 🌸
TY
Hey bhuti iyandakha ndingumntu nantsi ingxoxo yerrr❤
Africans we must take care of these ppl. 🙏
Our decolonizesion will take time so we need to say this things share the video
Thanks you bible
I encourage all Africans in Europe to start naming all the Mountains in their native languages and use those names when communicating. No need to explain to anyone....we are just following suite of how Europeans behave when they get to Africa. Thank you
So true ,even in Africa most it has the names from European mouths , like South Africa
Conservation is you brothers are reading my mind, I have been telling my family all this time about religion and Christianity is a scam
And'funi nok'xoka.
When you were talking about the surge in Kemetic content I thought that was shade to the GEK movement (of which I am an avid viewer).😅
Relieved to hear that uMkhulu Ntsingiza is recognized.😄
Africans have lots if written stuff in the caves etc. I just discovered that there are paintings in Drakensberg Mountains that are very old. I think also in Gqeberha there are writings, etc. Every where in Caves you may find written stuff. The only thing is understanding those images or letters. Language has not evolved that much for most people so we can still make sense of those writings.
So history was not only orally but also in written format.
"For Moses wrote about me". Moses was a bantu who took the bantu out Egypt with the Great power of GOD.
Thau Thau, much respect
Even the concept of God modimo and Africans is a Christianity so we to change that as well i wish i was in studio
I would love to attend the Afrikan Spiritual Church. Please let us know when you start one.
Thank you 😊
Zamalek Giza next, we plead.
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I think the core idea is about GOING BACK TO THE ROOT. It’s helpful in some ways. I find the discussion is interesting but poor in their analysis.
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One thing I realize about the so called African spiritual leaders is that they say alot of things with out evidence they become philosophical and they dance around questions 🤔they asked our elder a question where did the Africans get their knowledge instead of giving answer they change the paradigm it is easy to criticize other books but they can't teach their own books they can't give reference for what they are saying eish African has become philosophers
Very interesting.
Ai! we are misled daily by people who claim to have studied that and that,bible is African history book for Africans,its content speaks to us more than it's speaks ather race,the people who brought it here short themselves in foot, we studied it ourselves we learned that God is black,Jesus is black,Job, Solomon and Juda,covenant circumcision and the Paradise will be enjoyed by this mighty Race. I cleave to the covenant to this day Amen
I have a question, Master Thau Thau keeps on refering to the Bantu culture. I would love much more information on the other ethnic groups. For example am Nilo-Himite.
YOH and to think how I've been called Muhedeni, mthakathi for believing and acknoeldging my ancestors. Black sheep is what I've ebeen labelled. I believe in a God, Mvelinqangi. The Bible has never made sense to me. When I mae this comment on 1 of those young Sangoma's posts about not being able to rekat to the Bible, wathi before athwasa she was the same but now after ukuthwasa she ha a better understanding ofit. In my head I was like, my Ancestors plz don't do this to me😅😅😅😅😅😅😅We give Thanks. Now to find my on black conscious faith
43:50 most important truth to get out to this generation
I hear you guys talking about Ubuntu, which is something far from the modern Africans , or let alone the one's that lived before us , honestly speaking I've not been certain about this christian religion long before I started listening to this type of teachings , our way of life has been tempered with , and it will take more than you guy's just talking about it to have our minds and our daily lives liberating, how do you get everyone not to do 9 to 5s when they think of form of progressing as having a nice car , eating out at restaurants, wearing foreign brands life style as we call it ? People study for different fields so they can be able to afford this life and experience the form of success that they are aspire to experience, honestly speaking I feel like as much as y'all think you on to something you also taking two steps back , yall rising like everyone else "the man who knows it all knows nothing at all " my experience with the so called African religions or people who practice it ,they be bewitching and taking other peoples luck , everybody whose blessed with certain power's seems to be using their power's in a wrong manner , your last question was about how we still intact with our families, the concept of Ubuntu is way too hard to practice but you guy's as rastafarians are close to it because you practice peace , honestly speaking this confuses a lot of us as much as people in the comments may seem to be understanding this stuff , as there really hope for an African child ? It's sickening for me to call this land Africa , whose Africa ? We keep pointing out the problems we facing but not getting any closer to the truth , is there really a right way for us to live , how sure are you guys on the path you in , you keep saying we translate isintu but you trying to make us understand who we are in English , who are you doing it for ? Firstly we cant really understand each others languages how we suppose to live the Ubuntu in our daily lives , the day you all start talking with your Homeland languages, we will be getting closer to liberating ourselves , I feel like y'all do it for public recognition more than to liberate , I love your analysis but the journey is still long , uno ndi Raphulu, tshiheni , mudau , I'm just crying out loud and I'm also seeking
You could have commented in one of the African languages. But then you would be back to square one because your audience would be somewhat restricted. Meanwhile, as an AFRICAN PEOPLE we should always try to see the glass as being at least half full rather than being at least half empty.
I understand the point you’re trying to make. However if they conducted the podcast in an indigenous language most of us wouldn’t be able to grasp the knowledge that is being shared.
Welcome Tanzania ❤❤❤
Thau thau much respect
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Think I like to hear re about your belief n live Christian alone..
Oggg, i luv these conversationsǃ Woww👌
Africans need to find their way outside of the conforms of the European heritage, we need to do away with European methods of praying and performing our traditional ways
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As a Christian, the answer to your question sir is yes. Yes, mengihleli ngedwa without all the bells and whistles of the world I can truly say that Jesus is my Lord and saviour and He is enough for me
So your saviour is a white jewish man , and your holy book is a bible written by Europeans , and that is enough for you , I call you a coward , ignorant and a fool , you choose to ignore African spiritually , for the religion of your conquerors and colonialists , you are now a mercenary for Europe complicit with the destruction of Africa
i feel like the question ‘what is the source of african spirituality’ wasn’t answered
shuuuuuuuuuuuuu any Christians coming to argue please?🤣🤣🤣🤣i will re watch this over n over
I think Christians should be invited to come defend their views on their religion.
Who exactly are the prophets in the bible? are they real people who existed or personified concepts?
brother's please invite mkulu ntsingisa and zamalek giza to your plateforme explain to us african about african spirituality awakening and our african calendar and our writing system symbols thank you !!!!!!!!!🖤😊😊
Very interesting discussion! The God of the Bible is good, bad, evil, supports downpression, slavery, yet gracious, full of mercy….and these Christians and some Rastas find excuses to support that madness.
I don’t think we need an African church per say but African institutions that teach African philosophy from different parts of Africa. One can then develop their own spirituality, only you can find your way, the path you came here to travel on. Religion can be destructive as well as good but I think diminishes the level of spiritual development one reaches.