This is such a weird and sexy scenario at the same time, it would be interesting to live in this world, a nato of Southern Europe with a Greek America of Europe. Very good work. 👏👏👏
Justinian did his absolute best to give the empire most of its lost territories under Roman control. Though, not fully conquering all of the former WRE provinces, he did what he was able to achieve for the glory of Rome. Every single time, I think of late Roman history it will always be the virtuous and genunine leaders (majorian, justinian, aurelian, pertinax, etc) who had the tragic end. Not only were there effective emperors for Rome, but the successors after them really being nothing of use and contributing more to the already fallen Empire, such as Ricimer the barbarian general of WRE who betrayed Majorian. It will always be the brave who die, while the cowards live to tell.
Kinda funny to see how the Roman state in ancient times, where it used to be on the western side of Hellenic states, now moved to the most eastern side of the Hellenic states
Are Egypt, Libya and Palestine Orthodox, Catholic, Coptik or a mix of all. And will you make a Video in the Future in which you show statistics about the Countries.
@@gssalternatehistory so basically North Africa is majority Orthodox with very big minority religions like coptic, Catholic and Muslim? (I mean for example like 30/40% orthodox and the rest is the other three) By the way very good video and I hope you do a continuation with statistics.
Could you give us more info about the countries in the video like their religion, ethnic minorities, states/themes ext.? Also there wouldn't be a city in Trace known as "Alexandroupoli" as king Alexander the first either never existed or is unimportant to the Hellenic world and also it developed under late ottoman times-around the late 1800s-so it likely would never exist to being with but if it did the best name would probably be "Pauloupoli" after the king of rhomania Paul of russia
I was actually planning on doing that at the end of the video but it would make the video way too long im possibly planning to create a part two that is an overview of all the countries
so do turks never migrate through iran into anatolia? with the caliphate being halted in the west would they expand further east like deeper into the indian subcontinent? greeks are still divided like during city states period💀
@@gssalternatehistoryalso do the hispanian greeks get moved to south america after facing losing the reconquista of this time? is the southern italian greek state orthodox? if it is then why dont the catholics try and destroy it since they probably hate the orthodoxies as much as the christians hated muslims centuries ago in our timeline? since the safavids rule anatolia, would iranians/kurds/turks settle in anatolia during safavid rule of anatolia? is albania mostly hellenized while remaining albanians reside in kosovo? are north african languages a mix of berber and latin? would islam spread from across the red sea since the muslims couldnt conquer egypt? what happens to romanians in wallachia, are they assimilated by the bulgarians? and do the romanians in moldavian have more slavic influence? (sorry for all the questions lol)
@@pakistanimapperr the hispanian greeks fleed and settled in america due to catholic spanish, persecution, also the southern italima greek state is majority orthdox with a small catholic minoirty, turks never settle into anatolia due to iran but some kurds do but most are deported back to kurdistan, although some small rural pockets remain, the north african lanauges are entirely latin with small berber influence, islam is much more predominantly in india, south east asia, and east africa and in general africa yes. Romanians were assilmated are fled north to moldavia, although some romanians remain in wallachi in rural communities, and yes ur right about albanian, i plan on possibly releasing a member exclusive look and overview into this world and how the hellenic and non-hellenic nations are influenced
47:43 WAIT! What were the borders of USSR in the Caucasus? So, Russian Empire didn't conquer North Azerbaijan? Or Azerbaijan just reunified with Iran after the collapse of USSR? Because it's literally impossible for USSR to win WW2 without having Baku oil. Or Iran as a whole was conquered by Russian Empire and later was a satellite/part of USSR during Cold War?
Azerjbanim was unified with iran, pontus spilt between ussr and rhomania, the ussr managed to survive through us lend and lease programs like in our timeline
probably because in this timeline the Greeks evolve like the Latin's or Slavs after the fall of Rome or Slavic migrations where there would evolve to become somewhat unique to each other while still holding similar languages, religion , heritage and race
@@nikostsiantas4060 This happened in real life.For example kappadocian,pontiac,and cretan greek .In this video they are maybe more diverse.Pontiac might be more similar to how it was irl but with some caucasian and iranian influences and .In magna Grecia it will might be more similar to greek than it is irl since their population will be larger and less effected, it will still be similar to Italian though.
@@Da-Greekofficial I agree the the greeks in magna grecia will evolve like the Grico the pontus like the pontic the romània will evolve like the Cappadocian the epirotians like the arvanites just more hellenized and the greeks more like our timeline just maybe the main language keeping more sounds and words from ancient greece
The albanian identity will be formed after the turkish conquest and the islamification of the region no turkish conquest no islam no islam equals probably becoming fully Hellenized or an italian colony or coastal serbia
@@gssalternatehistory Also I heard that Albanian identity started after 1204 with crusader states as part of the latinisation process to weaken the roman byzantines and orthodox church
I suppose it was always hellenized...Recently was Albanized by foreign interests.Ali Pasha who was himself very very well educated person in classical studies never ever considered an Albanian language,he signed in greek to the great Gate of Constantinople to irritate the Sultan.Hellenism its a powerful tool and it's not a monopoly of Greece,the western elite in USA is very well in knowledge of this.Various barbarians that hellenized throughout history tried to substitute the Greeks in government and continue the Mediterranean disease that held europe and the surroundings in weaker position following the rout of history always in second place.It doesn't matter for the Greeks,the Persians,the Chinese and the Hindu if the successful boy of the family is adopted,it matter that the family legacy,name and wellbeing of the house continues,that is why they are present still.The Greeks an imperial idea as well is held captive by westerners and not only.The south slavs are dreaming on their own while before the Byzantine culture they were fighting either in steppes or by wooden clubs as it was described by eye witnesses of the time,yet pan Slavic idea is in better seat rather the Roman idea.The Albanians,a people alone in balkan,indigenous or not is of low significance as they are present in millions and that's a fact,still they are dreaming of worthless things that give them the position of servant while the forefathers of Albania were always in tied proximity to the Byzantine culture...I won't mention the Turks as they have taken the path of no return,yet the Romanians are living in a constant peace like it will never end and in their best future of expansion the vlachs are their best casus beli,but these vlachs are identify differently and want minimal relation to this nation.So the balkans have the strongest tool (hellenic dominace)to spread fear among the western elites by claiming what is theirs by right of succession as it is to the modern Greeks,yet they denying it for modest at best things making the area a mosaic easy to control for the foreigners.Pity,living in the area that ruled the world for millenias and still hoping of someone thousand of miles away to show you how to overcome your problems while you are the key for him to avoid his problems.
wow that mustve been much work but in my opinion worth it
Took about a month to do, it was alot tbh
@@gssalternatehistory good job🎉🤝
I honestly believe Greeks would have been the equivalent of Russia hadn’t Turks migrated into Anatolia.
Southern Italy would probably still be ethnic Greek if some damned Sicilian didn’t want to marry a nun
What do you mean? The turks didn't have nothing against greeks, only eastern romans, and the empire was already dying
Almost 50 minutes??? Holy shit! I was about to ask, where you disappeared 😂😂
Lmao that is why i was gone for so long, i was grinding this video
@@gssalternatehistory I'm on its 14th minute rn. It's fucking amazing
Перевод:ебена мать 💀
Woah, Greek Argentina, unique and intersting.
Great video 🎉
Glad you liked it!
I am impressed by how much work you've put to this video its great
Thank you, im glad you enjoyed it!
Me: *expecting Roman music*
GSS: Kalinka, Kalinka, Kalinka moya
Nice jiob ! ❤ Great Roman Byzantine empre 🇬🇷 ones of great Empire in History in 🌎 Greeting from Bulgaria 🇧🇬
🤝
Thank you, yes greatest humanity has ever seen
This is such a weird and sexy scenario at the same time, it would be interesting to live in this world, a nato of Southern Europe with a Greek America of Europe. Very good work. 👏👏👏
Well you nailed the civil war part of the video
God this is beautiful, really what Greeks actually deserve. Greetings from the Germany
ngl this is the only video i see that greeks aint all together but jsut different nations, amazing work
Thanks
This is a masterpiece bro ❤👍
Amazing video!
Thanks!
Really intresting and great video.
This is Genuenly amasingly well done and i love the effort put i to this
Thanks glad you liked it, thanks for your support see you all the times in the comments!
Justinian did his absolute best to give the empire most of its lost territories under Roman control. Though, not fully conquering all of the former WRE provinces, he did what he was able to achieve for the glory of Rome. Every single time, I think of late Roman history it will always be the virtuous and genunine leaders (majorian, justinian, aurelian, pertinax, etc) who had the tragic end. Not only were there effective emperors for Rome, but the successors after them really being nothing of use and contributing more to the already fallen Empire, such as Ricimer the barbarian general of WRE who betrayed Majorian. It will always be the brave who die, while the cowards live to tell.
It was great 💯, I watched all the video, good job on working on this video
Thank you i like ur vids too!
Great video. Just a question, will you do the future of the Greek states next?
Possibly idk tho
Please do the future of the Hellenic States
European Commonwealth invasion of neo ottoman empire
I might one day
Oh my god, wow!Great work!
Thanks a lot!
Greek Siciliy kingdom actually out of the box. Their king will have the strongest claim on ERE crown.
nice music selection
Thanks!
Great vid
Thanks!
30:00 OP Pontus! 👌
Pontus greatests raaaaaah 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Great video!
Is there a link to a playlist for the music you use?
No playlist sadly ill add songs in the description
Alright, that'll work!
Great video ♥
Thanks!
Pretty cool you should do one for ancient Egypt
One day i might
@@gssalternatehistory ok thanks for answering 👍
Would love to see more about the fate of Persia in this timeline
Perhaps one day i might do a part 2
Kinda funny to see how the Roman state in ancient times, where it used to be on the western side of Hellenic states, now moved to the most eastern side of the Hellenic states
Most epic video so far
Thank you
Interesting scénario, good quality !
I remember watching your videos, why don't you publish them anymore?
I don't have much time anymore and I'm not at home at the moment. I post maps on Reddit from time to time.
very good video
I like the idea of a delayed and not as successful islamic invasion
Good video
Thanks
What do u use for base terrain maps?
Obviously a lot of effort has been spent. He commented as the video called A Greek's Dream. TURKS NEVER DIE IN THIS GEOGRAPHY.
Are Egypt, Libya and Palestine Orthodox, Catholic, Coptik or a mix of all.
And will you make a Video in the Future in which you show statistics about the Countries.
Egypt is much more diverse than in our timelime it has orthodox greeks, muslims, catholics and even a small amount of Protestants
@@gssalternatehistory so basically North Africa is majority Orthodox with very big minority religions like coptic, Catholic and Muslim? (I mean for example like 30/40% orthodox and the rest is the other three)
By the way very good video and I hope you do a continuation with statistics.
Very well done bravo
Thanks
underrated
what mapping software did you use?
Paint .net
Beautiful.
Thanks
Me casually googling stuff to compare with OTL😂😂😂
Could you give us more info about the countries in the video like their religion, ethnic minorities, states/themes ext.?
Also there wouldn't be a city in Trace known as "Alexandroupoli" as king Alexander the first either never existed or is unimportant to the Hellenic world and also it developed under late ottoman times-around the late 1800s-so it likely would never exist to being with but if it did the best name would probably be "Pauloupoli" after the king of rhomania Paul of russia
I was actually planning on doing that at the end of the video but it would make the video way too long im possibly planning to create a part two that is an overview of all the countries
Unrealistic, but very interesting.
music at 20:48?
37:25 song?
23:16 4th Byzantine-Seljuk war*
so do turks never migrate through iran into anatolia? with the caliphate being halted in the west would they expand further east like deeper into the indian subcontinent? greeks are still divided like during city states period💀
Yes, turks fail to migrate into anatolia and yea islam is more prevalent in north india
@@gssalternatehistoryalso do the hispanian greeks get moved to south america after facing losing the reconquista of this time? is the southern italian greek state orthodox? if it is then why dont the catholics try and destroy it since they probably hate the orthodoxies as much as the christians hated muslims centuries ago in our timeline? since the safavids rule anatolia, would iranians/kurds/turks settle in anatolia during safavid rule of anatolia? is albania mostly hellenized while remaining albanians reside in kosovo? are north african languages a mix of berber and latin? would islam spread from across the red sea since the muslims couldnt conquer egypt? what happens to romanians in wallachia, are they assimilated by the bulgarians? and do the romanians in moldavian have more slavic influence? (sorry for all the questions lol)
@@pakistanimapperr the hispanian greeks fleed and settled in america due to catholic spanish, persecution, also the southern italima greek state is majority orthdox with a small catholic minoirty, turks never settle into anatolia due to iran but some kurds do but most are deported back to kurdistan, although some small rural pockets remain, the north african lanauges are entirely latin with small berber influence, islam is much more predominantly in india, south east asia, and east africa and in general africa yes. Romanians were assilmated are fled north to moldavia, although some romanians remain in wallachi in rural communities, and yes ur right about albanian, i plan on possibly releasing a member exclusive look and overview into this world and how the hellenic and non-hellenic nations are influenced
@@gssalternatehistory its crazy how much could change just from altering the history of one country especially greece
@@pakistanimapperr indeed
Bro oh shit its long
27:54
can you not have a civil war, for five minutes
byzantine empire taking the roman lineage and having a civil war every two years
47:43 WAIT! What were the borders of USSR in the Caucasus? So, Russian Empire didn't conquer North Azerbaijan? Or Azerbaijan just reunified with Iran after the collapse of USSR? Because it's literally impossible for USSR to win WW2 without having Baku oil. Or Iran as a whole was conquered by Russian Empire and later was a satellite/part of USSR during Cold War?
Azerjbanim was unified with iran, pontus spilt between ussr and rhomania, the ussr managed to survive through us lend and lease programs like in our timeline
1) Skopje still claims Macedonia?
2) North Africa, Middle East and South Spain have greek minorities?
3) Bulgaria has moved further north, right?
1.) yes n.macedonia was slavicied,
2.) yes greek minoritrs are present
3.) yes bulgarians live more north
Also, can you tell me the version of "Τη υπερμάχω" in 42:00 ?
27:12 you mean that they haven't had a single Civil War before? 😅
Major
37:24 song name?
ua-cam.com/video/iXjMxBRBxws/v-deo.htmlsi=ua0l-3cYs_trD80f
@@gssalternatehistory thank you!
La musica russa che centra
E' solo all'inizio
I liked it so much i had to put it in
All for tetris!
Long ahh video
36:18 tf? Greek-Azerbaijani Hyperwar????
43:39 Adolfos Megalos😂😂😂
Let me guess... Adolfos Megalos was a rejected cypriot painter?
Nope a Epirus painter
@@gssalternatehistory Ah, i understand. Could you make alternate future of the Greeks too?
@@paulinalevina9690 maybe one day
@@gssalternatehistory Did Adolfos Megalos flee to Neos Hispania?
33:48 music pleas
Fall of Constantinople
^wrong
It's "You will come as (a) lightning"
Based
Indeed
What happens to the Christianity in this universe??
Same as normal, sorta
36:04 how big was Hungary 😳
I love you
Brainrot
Im so confused
Why the Greeks are not united?
Probably major cultural differences due to centuries of separation. It is like asking why all romance countries are not united.
probably because in this timeline the Greeks evolve like the Latin's or Slavs after the fall of Rome or Slavic migrations where there would evolve to become somewhat unique to each other while still holding similar languages, religion , heritage and race
@@nikostsiantas4060 yes
@@nikostsiantas4060 This happened in real life.For example kappadocian,pontiac,and cretan greek .In this video they are maybe more diverse.Pontiac might be more similar to how it was irl but with some caucasian and iranian influences and .In magna Grecia it will might be more similar to greek than it is irl since their population will be larger and less effected, it will still be similar to Italian though.
@@Da-Greekofficial I agree the the greeks in magna grecia will evolve like the Grico the pontus like the pontic the romània will evolve like the Cappadocian the epirotians like the arvanites just more hellenized and the greeks more like our timeline just maybe the main language keeping more sounds and words from ancient greece
Everyone’s already commented on the depth of the video so I’m just gonna say, AMAZING choices of music. 🫡
Thanks, i took me a while to find the right song
Based byzantine argentina
Wait, hellenizated albania?
The albanian identity will be formed after the turkish conquest and the islamification of the region no turkish conquest no islam no islam equals probably becoming fully Hellenized or an italian colony or coastal serbia
Yes
No@@gssalternatehistory
@@gssalternatehistory Also I heard that Albanian identity started after 1204 with crusader states as part of the latinisation process to weaken the roman byzantines and orthodox church
I suppose it was always hellenized...Recently was Albanized by foreign interests.Ali Pasha who was himself very very well educated person in classical studies never ever considered an Albanian language,he signed in greek to the great Gate of Constantinople to irritate the Sultan.Hellenism its a powerful tool and it's not a monopoly of Greece,the western elite in USA is very well in knowledge of this.Various barbarians that hellenized throughout history tried to substitute the Greeks in government and continue the Mediterranean disease that held europe and the surroundings in weaker position following the rout of history always in second place.It doesn't matter for the Greeks,the Persians,the Chinese and the Hindu if the successful boy of the family is adopted,it matter that the family legacy,name and wellbeing of the house continues,that is why they are present still.The Greeks an imperial idea as well is held captive by westerners and not only.The south slavs are dreaming on their own while before the Byzantine culture they were fighting either in steppes or by wooden clubs as it was described by eye witnesses of the time,yet pan Slavic idea is in better seat rather the Roman idea.The Albanians,a people alone in balkan,indigenous or not is of low significance as they are present in millions and that's a fact,still they are dreaming of worthless things that give them the position of servant while the forefathers of Albania were always in tied proximity to the Byzantine culture...I won't mention the Turks as they have taken the path of no return,yet the Romanians are living in a constant peace like it will never end and in their best future of expansion the vlachs are their best casus beli,but these vlachs are identify differently and want minimal relation to this nation.So the balkans have the strongest tool (hellenic dominace)to spread fear among the western elites by claiming what is theirs by right of succession as it is to the modern Greeks,yet they denying it for modest at best things making the area a mosaic easy to control for the foreigners.Pity,living in the area that ruled the world for millenias and still hoping of someone thousand of miles away to show you how to overcome your problems while you are the key for him to avoid his problems.
36:42 the dream of Achemenids👹
dont forget macedonia
Its apart of federal union of greece
Lots of Brainrot comments lmfao
Yes lmao
36:38 ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Imagine calling Justinian greek. The missinformation is crazy
The bulgar slayer
That was his name irl
NIKOS II look like lord farquad
Lmao
No
HAHA BIG OTTOMAN EMPİRE 😂
Brainrot
Otomano Empire is horrible